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NE Weevil	Posted - 2004.10.21 16:36:00 - [1] I have come up with a new type of component for ships that would add something to the game - similar to what we have in the real world, suicide bombers. Say they fit onto High Slots and different sized ones give different sized explosions. Would be useful for two things - Taking out Stations as an actuall battle plan or - Blowing yourself up to cause as much damage as you can, if you are going to die anyway. Then there would arise the use of them in cheap ships to kill enemy BSs in Empire Space but of course this will boot the hell out of your standings. Regards NE Weevil CEO - Setonia
NE Weevil	Posted - 2004.10.21 16:36:00 - [2] I have come up with a new type of component for ships that would add something to the game - similar to what we have in the real world, suicide bombers. Say they fit onto High Slots and different sized ones give different sized explosions. Would be useful for two things - Taking out Stations as an actuall battle plan or - Blowing yourself up to cause as much damage as you can, if you are going to die anyway. Then there would arise the use of them in cheap ships to kill enemy BSs in Empire Space but of course this will boot the hell out of your standings. Regards NE Weevil CEO - Setonia
DiMage	Posted - 2004.10.21 16:52:00 - [3] I like the "BOMB" idea, but they can't have any effect on stations. The BOMB would be good for making a pirate think 1st before just blowing you up. if he is going to loose his ship also it would stop all the ganking of players that are just mining.
DiMage	Posted - 2004.10.21 16:52:00 - [4] I like the "BOMB" idea, but they can't have any effect on stations. The BOMB would be good for making a pirate think 1st before just blowing you up. if he is going to loose his ship also it would stop all the ganking of players that are just mining.
NE Weevil	Posted - 2004.10.21 17:22:00 - [5] When I say stations I am referring to POS not NPC structures in Empire space. Regards NE Weevil
NE Weevil	Posted - 2004.10.21 17:22:00 - [6] When I say stations I am referring to POS not NPC structures in Empire space. Regards NE Weevil
Sergeant Spot	Posted - 2004.10.21 18:14:00 - [7] Bad idea. Suicide alts would be instantly very common.
Sergeant Spot	Posted - 2004.10.21 18:14:00 - [8] Bad idea. Suicide alts would be instantly very common.
NE Weevil	Posted - 2004.10.21 20:09:00 - [9] Not if a skill is required to be able to use the component; eg. Electronics 5, Bomb Operations 4, and 5 for large bombs, this means that it would take a while to train an alt and thus noob alts using this equipment would not be an issue. Note, if you made a trigger on a high slot which exploded with tremendous effect, and you could buy explosives to fill your ship to increase explosive power, you could greatly increase the explosive capacity. The different types of cargo explosives may all be different to do different types of damage each in themselves requiring certain skills. eg. Nuclear explosive operations- +100m3 nuclear explosives per level (requires Bomb operations level 5 to train) Furthermore it would add another possibility of how this attack could be countered, such as Explosive Detection equipment. (anti terrorism) Of course it will give small armies a different way to take on bigger armies in the form of guerilla warfare, with this it would no longer be a case of whoever has the most guns wins, there would be much more tactics to it. Regards NE Weevil
NE Weevil	Posted - 2004.10.21 20:09:00 - [10] Not if a skill is required to be able to use the component; eg. Electronics 5, Bomb Operations 4, and 5 for large bombs, this means that it would take a while to train an alt and thus noob alts using this equipment would not be an issue. Note, if you made a trigger on a high slot which exploded with tremendous effect, and you could buy explosives to fill your ship to increase explosive power, you could greatly increase the explosive capacity. The different types of cargo explosives may all be different to do different types of damage each in themselves requiring certain skills. eg. Nuclear explosive operations- +100m3 nuclear explosives per level (requires Bomb operations level 5 to train) Furthermore it would add another possibility of how this attack could be countered, such as Explosive Detection equipment. (anti terrorism) Of course it will give small armies a different way to take on bigger armies in the form of guerilla warfare, with this it would no longer be a case of whoever has the most guns wins, there would be much more tactics to it. Regards NE Weevil

Hiigara Soban	Posted - 2004.10.22 02:22:00 - [11] i still think alts would abuse it. some people with more than one account use one account as their main character and use another to experiment with and mess around on while being able to train skills. ____________________________________________________________________ Need moons scanned for a corporation Starbase? Convo or eve-mail me in-game for price details. I suply probes.
Hiigara Soban	Posted - 2004.10.22 02:22:00 - [12] i still think alts would abuse it. some people with more than one account use one account as their main character and use another to experiment with and mess around on while being able to train skills. ____________________________________________________________________ Need moons scanned for a corporation Starbase? Convo or eve-mail me in-game for price details. I suply probes.
Hestel	Posted - 2004.11.30 12:35:00 - [13] funny idea. cant see it being implemented then u will get terrorist corps ect. but would be good to see bombs.
Hestel	Posted - 2004.11.30 12:35:00 - [14] funny idea. cant see it being implemented then u will get terrorist corps ect. but would be good to see bombs.
Alexi Borizkova	Posted - 2004.11.30 14:26:00 - [15] just let me load my cargohold with explosives that blow up in a bigass damaging cloud when my ship is destroyed(either by a insta self destruct module or being destroyed) with the damage done depending on my amount of cargo in explosives. Unless you're enemy has a cargoscanner, you might bluff your way past, and if not... we could see some interesting mexican standoffs... "I have 20km3 of cargo, now, half of that is isotopes bound for a station in 0.0, the other half is pure antimatter, and if I hit this button, the containment field around it goes down, and for a brief instant this system has three suns... so, feeling lucky?"
Alexi Borizkova	Posted - 2004.11.30 14:26:00 - [16] just let me load my cargohold with explosives that blow up in a bigass damaging cloud when my ship is destroyed(either by a insta self destruct module or being destroyed) with the damage done depending on my amount of cargo in explosives. Unless you're enemy has a cargoscanner, you might bluff your way past, and if not... we could see some interesting mexican standoffs... "I have 20km3 of cargo, now, half of that is isotopes bound for a station in 0.0, the other half is pure antimatter, and if I hit this button, the containment field around it goes down, and for a brief instant this system has three suns... so, feeling lucky?"
Galadriela	Posted - 2004.11.30 16:44:00 - [17] ROFLMAO Alexi,.....love the idea, Eve would be a lot more dangerous and less ''im bored lets go kill some noobs'' but also it would make it awesome for barganing your way out of a sticky situation. Someone said, we would have terrorist corps, well why not? Aren't MoO and CoW terrorist corps? They hunt down people and kill them for fun, is that piracy like they claim??, i dont think so, it's terrorism, so technically Terrorism is in the game already, this would just make it more fun :) P.S i think it would be a little better if you could only activate ''bombs'' in 0.6 or lower as 0.7 + would make empire space pointless as pirates would just blow noobs up all the time....what do they care about sec status, the lower the better in thier oppinion. Nice idea...keep em coming
Galadriela	Posted - 2004.11.30 16:44:00 - [18] ROFLMAO Alexi,.....love the idea, Eve would be a lot more dangerous and less ''im bored lets go kill some noobs'' but also it would make it awesome for barganing your way out of a sticky situation. Someone said, we would have terrorist corps, well why not? Aren't MoO and CoW terrorist corps? They hunt down people and kill them for fun, is that piracy like they claim??, i dont think so, it's terrorism, so technically Terrorism is in the game already, this would just make it more fun :) P.S i think it would be a little better if you could only activate ''bombs'' in 0.6 or lower as 0.7 + would make empire space pointless as pirates would just blow noobs up all the time....what do they care about sec status, the lower the better in thier oppinion. Nice idea...keep em coming
Noriath	Posted - 2004.11.30 18:16:00 - [19] Guys, check out the market, make it show all items and look at small smartbombs. There already is a module that will destroy your ship and inflict 1000 points of damage to everything nearby... I haven't seen the module anywhere yet, but the fact that it's already in the market data makes me think that it will be availible eventually.
Noriath	Posted - 2004.11.30 18:16:00 - [20] Guys, check out the market, make it show all items and look at small smartbombs. There already is a module that will destroy your ship and inflict 1000 points of damage to everything nearby... I haven't seen the module anywhere yet, but the fact that it's already in the market data makes me think that it will be availible eventually.

Qlippothia	Posted - 2004.11.30 20:58:00 - [21] Originally by: Noriath Guys, check out the market, make it show all items and look at small smartbombs. There already is a module that will destroy your ship and inflict 1000 points of damage to everything nearby... I haven't seen the module anywhere yet, but the fact that it's already in the market data makes me think that it will be availible eventually. Small Hellstorm I
Qlippothia	Posted - 2004.11.30 20:58:00 - [22] Originally by: Noriath Guys, check out the market, make it show all items and look at small smartbombs. There already is a module that will destroy your ship and inflict 1000 points of damage to everything nearby... I haven't seen the module anywhere yet, but the fact that it's already in the market data makes me think that it will be availible eventually. Small Hellstorm I
Alexi Borizkova	Posted - 2004.12.01 04:53:00 - [23] Originally by: Galadriela P.S i think it would be a little better if you could only activate ''bombs'' in 0.6 or lower as 0.7 + would make empire space pointless as pirates would just blow noobs up all the time....what do they care about sec status, the lower the better in thier oppinion. Nice idea...keep em coming That is as simply done as making the explosives contraband, as well as the module when it is in a slot.
Alexi Borizkova	Posted - 2004.12.01 04:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Galadriela P.S i think it would be a little better if you could only activate ''bombs'' in 0.6 or lower as 0.7 + would make empire space pointless as pirates would just blow noobs up all the time....what do they care about sec status, the lower the better in thier oppinion. Nice idea...keep em coming That is as simply done as making the explosives contraband, as well as the module when it is in a slot.
Zerbot Murega	Posted - 2004.12.04 12:29:00 - [25] Edited by: Zerbot Murega on 04/12/2004 12:31:48 grate idea , i guess it should require atleast 3 lvl5 skills to even get the skill in training ,
Zerbot Murega	Posted - 2004.12.04 12:29:00 - [26] Edited by: Zerbot Murega on 04/12/2004 12:31:48 grate idea , i guess it should require atleast 3 lvl5 skills to even get the skill in training ,
Alexi Borizkova	Posted - 2004.12.04 21:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Zerbot Murega Edited by: Zerbot Murega on 04/12/2004 12:31:48 grate idea , i guess it should require atleast 3 lvl5 skills to even get the skill in training , Are you on the staff at CCP?
Alexi Borizkova	Posted - 2004.12.04 21:58:00 - [28] Originally by: Zerbot Murega Edited by: Zerbot Murega on 04/12/2004 12:31:48 grate idea , i guess it should require atleast 3 lvl5 skills to even get the skill in training , Are you on the staff at CCP?
Rephern Muare	Posted - 2004.12.05 01:42:00 - [29] How about the self destruct would do dmge?
Rephern Muare	Posted - 2004.12.05 01:42:00 - [30] How about the self destruct would do dmge?



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