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Cick Lunt
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Posted - 2009.10.01 15:36:00 -
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So everyone heard about the rumours of officer spawns trough whole delve. Witch is statistcly not possible. U should not be able to get a officer spawn in a -0.41 true sec system. I just wondered what is the story behind this? Its it becasue of a bug? and i need to file a bug report or is it to compensate the low amount of NPC blood raider space? Will this get fixed in the next patch? will delve become NPC space? or will just this bug fixed?
CCP pls explain becasue i just dont get it?
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Faife
Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.10.01 15:50:00 -
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they're called rumors for a specific reason: it's stupid things that stupid people tell each other so they can feel better about being stupid
thanks for starting a stupid thread talking about it. -- Check out my EVE cartoons - most recent: #17 Goomba needs a new job |

Cire XIII
Caldari Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.01 15:55:00 -
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Upon clicking this link I expected a question about the 'fall' of BoB. After reading the first sentence I expected a wall of data to support or refute the statement. Finding neither I promptly stopped reading. .
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.01 15:58:00 -
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True sec is not the only factor, you have to also factor in NPC Pirate faction sovereignty.
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Jarna
Amarr Eternal Frontier
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Posted - 2009.10.01 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Cire XIII Upon clicking this link I expected a question about the 'fall' of BoB. After reading the first sentence I expected a wall of data to support or refute the statement. Finding neither I promptly stopped reading.
Yeah, that's what I was hoping for. Sorely disappointed.  ------------------------------
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.01 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Avon True sec is not the only factor, you have to also factor in NPC Pirate faction sovereignty.
^Essentially pirate sov made all of Delve -1.0 It is not theo nly region that has this though.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
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Posted - 2009.10.01 16:43:00 -
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This is the story of delve: http://www.sesfanqulahmemorial.com/hist.html
Also confirming that delve is broken, in the good way.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.01 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Avon True sec is not the only factor, you have to also factor in NPC Pirate faction sovereignty.
^Essentially pirate sov made all of Delve -1.0 It is not theo nly region that has this though.
You exaggerate greatly .. but then you would.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.10.01 16:55:00 -
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Oh look, another goon alt thread trying vainly to get people intersted in and talking about them again. Sucks to be considered simply a normal run of the mill alliance nowadays eh? 
Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal |

Cick Lunt
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Posted - 2009.10.01 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Avon True sec is not the only factor, you have to also factor in NPC Pirate faction sovereignty.
Yes i know, NPC have sov in Six systems, not in the other 91 systems..... So how come its possible to get officer spawns in the other 91 systems?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.10.01 20:06:00 -
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Just because I'm a bit bored today I'll bite.
Do you have any proof that there are officer spawns in all of those 91 systems? Screenshots maybe? Anything past your 'word' as a goon alt?
Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal |

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.10.01 20:15:00 -
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The way I understand it is: Each NPC pirate faction has a home region that adds a huge factor into the quality of rats that spawn to the point of disregarding the true security of that system. I believe it is Fountain, Stain, Curse, Delve and Venal. In all of those regions, you will see high quality rat spawns in even the worst true security systems.
As far as I read into the dev blogs, true security may be irrelevant or trivialized in Dominion.
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente Clearly Compensating
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Posted - 2009.10.01 20:25:00 -
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The story in parts: 1. goons invade delve and querious 2. step two goon leaders seize the 14 dyso moons that make delve so valuble 3. goonfleet Leaders don't share wealth from those 14 moons with the rest of the alliance 4. lowely goons living in the space burn it out, the 6 k members quickly mining and killing anything remotely of value. 5. goon alt comes to forum and complains about lack of officer spawns __________________________________________________ I was Amarr before they were the FOTM and I'll be Amarr after it! I'm also training Minmatar Capitals! And I eat Lions! |

Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.10.01 21:04:00 -
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Goons are not a run of the mill alliance - they are a really big and rich alliance.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.10.01 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest Goons are not a run of the mill alliance - they are a really big and rich alliance.
Exactly as I said. Big rich alliances are a dime a dozen. What made the goons special has been lost it seems other than a few limp attempts to regain the glory of olde on the forums. Tbh they should never have taken that offer from harrgoth to dissolve bobs sov. It was like the joker brainwashing robin to off the batman. A Glorious Moment to be sure but then what is left after that?
Welp!
Have fun being just one of the boys now Goonies! You earned it!
Also naps are not forever and Dominion looms so hope you keep those nasty PL on a tight leash.. 
Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal |

Deva Blackfire
Viziam
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Posted - 2009.10.01 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 01/10/2009 21:51:52
Originally by: Cick Lunt
Originally by: Avon True sec is not the only factor, you have to also factor in NPC Pirate faction sovereignty.
Yes i know, NPC have sov in Six systems, not in the other 91 systems..... So how come its possible to get officer spawns in the other 91 systems?
AFAIK officers can spawn in any -sec system, its just they spawn MUCH more often in pirate sov regions. We did have some officer spawns in deklein but tbh rate was like one per week if not less. When we moved to venal the rate was around one officer per 1-2 days.
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shortspecialbus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.01 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ghoest Goons are not a run of the mill alliance - they are a really big and rich alliance.
Exactly as I said. Big rich alliances are a dime a dozen. What made the goons special has been lost it seems other than a few limp attempts to regain the glory of olde on the forums. Tbh they should never have taken that offer from harrgoth to dissolve bobs sov. It was like the joker brainwashing robin to off the batman. A Glorious Moment to be sure but then what is left after that?
Welp!
Have fun being just one of the boys now Goonies! You earned it!
Also naps are not forever and Dominion looms so hope you keep those nasty PL on a tight leash.. 
Why do people continue to think that we care what they think?
Oh no! Our space honour!
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.01 22:02:00 -
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Because ratting Angels made us special.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.10.01 22:34:00 -
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Its like the Mongols.
At one time they were scary.
Then they won.
Then they became fat.
And they were just like the dudes they replaced.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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buttesauce
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Posted - 2009.10.01 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit The way I understand it is: Each NPC pirate faction has a home region that adds a huge factor into the quality of rats that spawn to the point of disregarding the true security of that system. I believe it is Fountain, Stain, Curse, Delve and Venal. In all of those regions, you will see high quality rat spawns in even the worst true security systems.
As far as I read into the dev blogs, true security may be irrelevant or trivialized in Dominion.
This is actually correct. If you want the best space in the game, go into one of those five regions. Of course they also happen to be some of the most fought over regions...
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.10.01 23:54:00 -
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I once heard rumor that if you enter Amarr at exactly 12:00:00 when there is a full moon, while standing on your head, naked, covered in jello, and whipped cream (which I still say invalidates the 'naked' requirement), while saying 'Mitnal' repeatedly, that you will summon the ghost of Mitnal who will then grant you 3 wishes.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.10.02 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula I once heard rumor that if you enter Amarr at exactly 12:00:00 when there is a full moon, while standing on your head, naked, covered in jello, and whipped cream (which I still say invalidates the 'naked' requirement), while saying 'Mitnal' repeatedly, that you will summon the ghost of Mitnal who will then grant you 3 wishes.
Unfortunately, you have a total of 2 seconds to recite these wishes before his scanner recalibrates and he goes to someone else. 
Originally by: CCP Fallout
And yelling is bad. It makes the baby Jesus cry and when the baby Jesus cries I'm forced to lock threads
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente Clearly Compensating
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Posted - 2009.10.02 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest Its like the Mongols.
At one time they were fat.
Then they got scary.
Then they became won.
And they were just like the dudes they replaced.
fixed __________________________________________________ I was Amarr before they were the FOTM and I'll be Amarr after it! I'm also training Minmatar Capitals! And I eat Lions! |

Panzram
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.02 02:27:00 -
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Delve is a magical land of rainbows and sunbeams where every rat is an officer and every moon is a dyspro~~
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Nouva MacGyver
Caldari MacGyver Communications
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Posted - 2009.10.02 02:52:00 -
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Shush! Don't delve into it too far bro!
Fake Edit: IBT groans and /facepalms with regards to the bad pun.
P.S. I see what you did there with your character name OP.
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Lady Lard
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.02 04:31:00 -
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CCP decided that changing Delve from a regular region to a region where you can get faction/officer spawns in any system and take sov in any system except for the NPC systems was a good idea.
Unless I'm mistaken Fountain has the same properties.
Remember that this was before they created an internal affairs department and reformed the ISD department.
Give me some t2 bpos bro. |

Vanzatoarea
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Posted - 2009.10.02 07:39:00 -
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in respect to spawns in belts all NPC sov systems act as -1.0
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.10.02 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Lard CCP decided that changing Delve from a regular region to a region where you can get faction/officer spawns in any system and take sov in any system except for the NPC systems was a good idea.
Unless I'm mistaken Fountain has the same properties.
Remember that this was before they created an internal affairs department and reformed the ISD department.
Give me some t2 bpos bro.
Do you really believe all the bs and lies your leaders tell you? That's pretty sad, you should think for yourself and take off the tin foil hat, "bro". Did you also believe the one where BoB had a secret modified client that allowed them first into the server when a node crashes?
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.10.02 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: shortspecialbus
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ghoest Goons are not a run of the mill alliance - they are a really big and rich alliance.
Exactly as I said. Big rich alliances are a dime a dozen. What made the goons special has been lost it seems other than a few limp attempts to regain the glory of olde on the forums. Tbh they should never have taken that offer from harrgoth to dissolve bobs sov. It was like the joker brainwashing robin to off the batman. A Glorious Moment to be sure but then what is left after that?
Welp!
Have fun being just one of the boys now Goonies! You earned it!
Also naps are not forever and Dominion looms so hope you keep those nasty PL on a tight leash.. 
Why do people continue to think that we care what they think?
Oh no! Our space honour!
Oh, but you do. Really, why else would you post?
You care enough to let us know that you do not care. 
But its cool, I can't blame you. 
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Lady Lard
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.02 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit Do you really believe all the bs and lies your leaders tell you
My information does not come from any leader. I've encountered officer/faction spawns in systems with really bad true sec. It's a simple observation that anyone can make. Your conspiracy theory is dubious at best.
Originally by: Vaal Erit Did you also believe the one where BoB had a secret modified client that allowed them first into the server when a node crashes?
Nice straw man argument.
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Mihali
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Posted - 2009.10.02 08:47:00 -
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This must be another goons still relevant & stuck in 2006 alt thread. Nice troll though 6/10
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Lady Lard
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.02 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mihali This must be another goons still relevant & stuck in 2006 alt thread. Nice troll though 6/10
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hedonism
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Posted - 2009.10.02 09:22:00 -
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When i was living in delve in 0n- there was often officer spawns appearing, in fact in the first week of being there there was an officer spawn seen each day
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hedonism
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Posted - 2009.10.02 09:28:00 -
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When i was living in delve in 0n- there was often officer spawns appearing, in fact in the first week of being there there was an officer spawn seen each day
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ovenproofjet
Caldari Kinky Killing Kleptomaniacs BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.10.02 10:07:00 -
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Delve is special People like special! People fight over special!! So from Delve we got the two great wars affecting so many people in Eve, CCP like this so Delve remains special 
Comprende?
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Mihali
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Posted - 2009.10.02 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Lard What's the deal with airline peanuts?
What is the deal with them? They come in small bags & never get enough. Maybe they should learn a lesson from GS and keep adding more.
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Ralavina
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Posted - 2009.10.02 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: hedonism When i was living in delve in 0n- there was often officer spawns appearing, in fact in the first week of being there there was an officer spawn seen each day
Officer spawns are found every day in Venal, Curse, Fountain, Stain, too. Ralara's banned again so this is my alt :p |

hedonism
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Posted - 2009.10.02 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ralavina
Originally by: hedonism When i was living in delve in 0n- there was often officer spawns appearing, in fact in the first week of being there there was an officer spawn seen each day
Officer spawns are found every day in Venal, Curse, Fountain, Stain, too.
In the same system each day?
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