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Neuronai	Posted - 2009.10.05 19:47:00 - [31] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Wow the people white knighting the myrm in here are amazing. 75m3 drone bay is crap. 1/2/2 mix of drones is crap. The only thing that keeps the myrm from being totally useless right now is that it has a ton of mids and you can put lasers on it. In my experience, the Myrm does ok with that drone bay...I don't use lasers on it and I do just fine. Light Neutrons with Void S in conjuction with the "crap" combo you talked about do 536 EFT DPS...You need to move into scram range, give drones time to reach a target etc. but to be honest outside of fleet fights I rarely find that a problem. Sure, a gank Harb can do over 600, but could it tank 666 DPS like a triple rep Myrm can? All I'm saying is the Myrm has its advantages just as the other battlecruisers do, even if you can't see them.
Ad Valorem Minmatar Industrial Mite	Posted - 2009.10.05 19:51:00 - [32] Myrm is ok. BC Class is one of the best balanced. The Myrm is still outclassed by EVERY other tier 2 battlecruiser, fly a Drake.
Gneeznow Minmatar Goo Spew	Posted - 2009.10.05 19:56:00 - [33] Myrm is a good ship, but I just cant bring myself to fly one anymore because I always remember what it used to be like fielding 5 heavies from them, so these days I just caugh up the extra bux for an ishtar
Cpt Branko The Scope	Posted - 2009.10.05 20:07:00 - [34] Originally by: Renarla Unfortunately, the best Myrm fits use LAZORZ and a Shield Tank, despite the ships bonus. Fixed Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.10.05 20:13:00 - [35] Originally by: Neuronai Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Wow the people white knighting the myrm in here are amazing. 75m3 drone bay is crap. 1/2/2 mix of drones is crap. The only thing that keeps the myrm from being totally useless right now is that it has a ton of mids and you can put lasers on it. In my experience, the Myrm does ok with that drone bay...I don't use lasers on it and I do just fine. Light Neutrons with Void S in conjuction with the "crap" combo you talked about do 536 EFT DPS...You need to move into scram range, give drones time to reach a target etc. but to be honest outside of fleet fights I rarely find that a problem. Sure, a gank Harb can do over 600, but could it tank 666 DPS like a triple rep Myrm can? All I'm saying is the Myrm has its advantages just as the other battlecruisers do, even if you can't see them. And how much eft dps do you do when sentries kill your drones and all you have is your crappy frigate guns loaded with eft ammo? Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Susy Assulu Caldari Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2009.10.05 20:28:00 - [36] RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRR!
Endless Subversion The Accursed	Posted - 2009.10.05 20:42:00 - [37] Myrm is a fantastic bc. Basically every BC besides the prophecy is pretty damn good. Triple rep myrm ftw (swap t2 mwd and 1x best name injector for t1 mwd and 1x t2 injector so save a few isk). Forget strong exile, standard is ~4mil a pop. Small blasters, small pulse or medium AC all work great, if you use one of the small gun sets you can get a medium neut on there. Obviously you're not going to be insta popping ships with sentries against you in a drone boat with a tanking bonus. However, that sure doesn't mean the ship isn't any good, it means you're picking the wrong ship for the role. I swear, you have the randomest complaints with eve.
Neuronai	Posted - 2009.10.05 20:46:00 - [38] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Originally by: Neuronai Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Wow the people white knighting the myrm in here are amazing. 75m3 drone bay is crap. 1/2/2 mix of drones is crap. The only thing that keeps the myrm from being totally useless right now is that it has a ton of mids and you can put lasers on it. In my experience, the Myrm does ok with that drone bay...I don't use lasers on it and I do just fine. Light Neutrons with Void S in conjuction with the "crap" combo you talked about do 536 EFT DPS...You need to move into scram range, give drones time to reach a target etc. but to be honest outside of fleet fights I rarely find that a problem. Sure, a gank Harb can do over 600, but could it tank 666 DPS like a triple rep Myrm can? All I'm saying is the Myrm has its advantages just as the other battlecruisers do, even if you can't see them. And how much eft dps do you do when sentries kill your drones and all you have is your crappy frigate guns loaded with eft ammo? Sentries? What are you talking about? Oh I see, you're bringing specific circumstances in. Either I start countering each point you make about what could be going in a fight until one of us gets bored and leaves the computer, or I can say, I'd rather not participate in such a silly argument. I'm going with the latter.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.10.05 20:51:00 - [39] Originally by: Neuronai Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Originally by: Neuronai Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Wow the people white knighting the myrm in here are amazing. 75m3 drone bay is crap. 1/2/2 mix of drones is crap. The only thing that keeps the myrm from being totally useless right now is that it has a ton of mids and you can put lasers on it. In my experience, the Myrm does ok with that drone bay...I don't use lasers on it and I do just fine. Light Neutrons with Void S in conjuction with the "crap" combo you talked about do 536 EFT DPS...You need to move into scram range, give drones time to reach a target etc. but to be honest outside of fleet fights I rarely find that a problem. Sure, a gank Harb can do over 600, but could it tank 666 DPS like a triple rep Myrm can? All I'm saying is the Myrm has its advantages just as the other battlecruisers do, even if you can't see them. And how much eft dps do you do when sentries kill your drones and all you have is your crappy frigate guns loaded with eft ammo? Sentries? What are you talking about? Oh I see, you're bringing specific circumstances in. Either I start countering each point you make about what could be going in a fight until one of us gets bored and leaves the computer, or I can say, I'd rather not participate in such a silly argument. I'm going with the latter. I bring in sentries because a fit like that is comedy in a 0.0 gang and empire wars are a joke, so that basically only leaves lowsec. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Neuronai	Posted - 2009.10.05 20:53:00 - [40] Edited by: Neuronai on 05/10/2009 20:53:08 Originally by: Ad Valorem Myrm is ok. BC Class is one of the best balanced. The Myrm is still outclassed by EVERY other tier 2 battlecruiser, fly a Drake. Outclassed is a pretty vague term when you deal with EVE ships, especially when dealing with ones which like you said, are as balanced as the Tier 2 BCs. Each race, ship, gun etc. has it's own disadvantages and advantages which shine in the right circumstances. I can happily say after flying every Tier 2 BC, I cannot rate one above another overall.

Susy Assulu Caldari Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2009.10.05 20:55:00 - [41] Often in piracy you have to engage 'under gate guns' this means tanking said gate guns until you kill your target(s). Obviously gate guns shoot drones once drones are dead you have no DPS bar your frigate sized guns and they are doing **** poor DPS. Also you are using Void which is terrible. (Unless shooting BC or bigger targets in which case the increased size and reduced speed of the target sort of counteracts the tracking penalty on void, though it is still pointless.)
Cpt Branko The Scope	Posted - 2009.10.05 20:58:00 - [42] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 05/10/2009 21:05:34 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 05/10/2009 21:04:02 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 05/10/2009 21:03:35 Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega And how much eft dps do you do when sentries kill your drones and all you have is your crappy frigate guns loaded with eft ammo? Stupid argument is stupid; sentry engagements vs ships of equal size rely on the opponent being a horrible noob, in which case small blasters or D180s work. Gang engagements are a different game, and bringing your uber personal tank boat is not a good choice for those. If you want to do sentry engagements in gangs, (arty)Hurricane is where it's at; it has better EFT DPS then the Harbinger in a 24km sphere due to Hammerhead IIs being a notable portion of the Harbinger's DPS, while the typical 5x Warrior IIs on a Hurricane are more of a anti-frig emergency measure then anything else, and a arty fit will pull ahead on real damage dealt, since it won't have to spend ~15 seconds of doing utterly horribly crap DPS like the AC Hurricane will, easily compensating for the DPS difference in most typical engagements. The whole "oh but sentries eat drones" argument is crap. Saying "this ship sucks because there's a scenario where it sucks" is about as LOL as someone trolling every gunship thread with "useless because of TD Curse". Under sentries is just one of the ways to fight, and it's a crappy way unless you're in a gang of sufficient size. Since the rep fits are obviously geared for solo (or bait, in some cases), it's preety much of a moot point. Originally by: Susy Assulu Often in piracy you have to engage 'under gate guns' this means tanking said gate guns until you kill your target(s). Obviously gate guns shoot drones once drones are dead you have no DPS bar your frigate sized guns and they are doing ** poor DPS. Also you are using Void which is terrible. (Unless shooting BC or bigger targets in which case the increased size and reduced speed of the target sort of counteracts the tracking penalty on void, though it is still pointless.) Frigate sized void hits cruisers just fine (that said, D180s are a better choice for a triple-rep Myrmidon). In ANY CASE, triple-rep fits are not gang fits, and you are NOT going to solo gatecamp in any BC hoping to kill other BCs, unless you exclusively pick on <3 month old players. You get in engagements which suit your chosen ship+fit, since no ship+fit is good in every situation. Ganking stuff under sentries is not one of the Myrmidon's strong points. Attacking Harbingers in a nanocane isn't one of the nanocane's strong points, while the same Myrmidon will ** it. Different strengths, different weaknesses. Also: engagements under sentries suck hairy monkey balls, and are only really viable if you outclass the opponents enough this or that way. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Neuronai	Posted - 2009.10.05 21:06:00 - [43] Originally by: Susy Assulu Often in piracy you have to engage 'under gate guns' this means tanking said gate guns until you kill your target(s). Obviously gate guns shoot drones once drones are dead you have no DPS bar your frigate sized guns and they are doing **** poor DPS. Also you are using Void which is terrible. (Unless shooting BC or bigger targets in which case the increased size and reduced speed of the target sort of counteracts the tracking penalty on void, though it is still pointless.) Which is why you only release your drones when you're engaging someone...I don't know about you guys but if I were to tank sentry guns waiting for a target, I'd have my drones in bay Oh, and the tracking penalty on void brings the tracking on Light Neutrons to roughly cruiser sized blaster tracking. My point being they track just fine.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.10.05 21:10:00 - [44] Edited by: Davinel Lulinvega on 05/10/2009 21:10:22 Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega And how much eft dps do you do when sentries kill your drones and all you have is your crappy frigate guns loaded with eft ammo? Stupid argument is stupid; sentry engagements vs ships of equal size rely on the opponent being a horrible noob, in which case small blasters or D180s work. Gang engagements are a different game, and bringing your uber personal tank boat is not a good choice for those. If you want to do sentry engagements in gangs, (arty)Hurricane is where it's at; it has better EFT DPS then the Harbinger in a 24km sphere due to Hammerhead IIs being a notable portion of the Harbinger's DPS, while the typical 5x Warrior IIs on a Hurricane are more of a anti-frig emergency measure then anything else, and a arty fit will pull ahead on real damage dealt, since it won't have to spend ~15 seconds of doing utterly horribly crap DPS like the AC Hurricane will, easily compensating for the DPS difference in most typical engagements. The whole "oh but sentries eat drones" argument is crap. Saying "this ship sucks because there's a scenario where it sucks" is about as LOL as someone trolling every gunship thread with "useless because of TD Curse". Under sentries is just one of the ways to fight, and it's a crappy way unless you're in a gang of sufficient size. Since the rep fits are obviously geared for solo (or bait, in some cases), it's preety much of a moot point. As you said, rep fits are obviously geared for solo, so I think bringing up sentries in lowsec is quite valid. I also like how you call me out and then in the same sentence go on to say that small blasters are good because you can use anything to kill a horrible noob. And then you compare fighting under sentries to fighting against a curse. Because obviously saying that one ship is useless against another ship and one ship is useless in an extremely common situation are the same thing. Finally, if you actually read what I posted you might notice that I was saying that that particular fit was garbage, not making blanket statements about the ship itself. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Susy Assulu Caldari Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2009.10.05 21:10:00 - [45] Originally by: Neuronai Originally by: Susy Assulu Often in piracy you have to engage 'under gate guns' this means tanking said gate guns until you kill your target(s). Obviously gate guns shoot drones once drones are dead you have no DPS bar your frigate sized guns and they are doing **** poor DPS. Also you are using Void which is terrible. (Unless shooting BC or bigger targets in which case the increased size and reduced speed of the target sort of counteracts the tracking penalty on void, though it is still pointless.) Which is why you only release your drones when you're engaging someone...I don't know about you guys but if I were to tank sentry guns waiting for a target, I'd have my drones in bay Oh, and the tracking penalty on void brings the tracking on Light Neutrons to roughly cruiser sized blaster tracking. My point being they track just fine. They switch targets AFAIK
Neuronai	Posted - 2009.10.05 21:13:00 - [46] They do, it doesn't take much common sense to return and redeploy your drones in the event that happens rather than letting them die.
Susy Assulu Caldari Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2009.10.05 21:27:00 - [47] The light drones and med drones would pop fast.
Count MonteCarlo Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.10.05 21:29:00 - [48] christ stop whining about everything
BlindBleu Gallente BOOMers Inc	Posted - 2009.10.05 23:04:00 - [49] This is one I use a lot. [Myrmidon, Sansha 0.0 Ratter] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermal Hardener II Armor Thermal Hardener II 10MN Afterburner I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter M Salvager II Small Tractor Beam I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Ogre I x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 EFT Defense vs Sansha's 623/623 Anti Matter DPS 362 Volley 610 Caldari Anti Matter DPS 384 Volley 701 Void DPS 386 Volley 711 419 M/sec Cap Stable at 51% Every Plan lasts until the first shot is fired. "I have a Plan, a good one." Generally means it is not. If Yellow it get a Fellow Killed
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.10.05 23:06:00 - [50] Originally by: Count MonteCarlo christ stop whining about everything I'm not. I'm trying to find a Myrm setup that fits my parameters. TBH I think the Myrm could sacrifice a few turret slots and gain another 50m3 in bandwidth and up the drone bay space to 250m3 and it would work out ok. Right now it's focus is too divided between guns and drones. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. Tier 5 Battleships

Cpt Branko The Scope	Posted - 2009.10.05 23:46:00 - [51] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 05/10/2009 23:51:16 Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega As you said, rep fits are obviously geared for solo, so I think bringing up sentries in lowsec is quite valid. Bring up sentries in low-sec is quite invalid when we discuss solo. We're talking about battlecruisers here, not battleships. Solo BCs do not mix well with sentries. There's nothing "extremely common" about fighting under sentries in a solo BC, unless you're killing haulers and various smaller crap anyway (or are -10 and sitting there letting someone else aggro first). There's nothing particularly bad with that particular fit, except that small blasters need to get switched to D180s really. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Daan Sai Polytrope	Posted - 2009.10.05 23:52:00 - [52] Originally by: Bellum Eternus TBH I think the Myrm could sacrifice a few turret slots and gain another 50m3 in bandwidth and up the drone bay space to 250m3 and it would work out ok. Right now it's focus is too divided between guns and drones. = ishtar. --------------------------------- Internet Submarines is Serious Business ---------------------------------
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.10.06 00:22:00 - [53] Originally by: Daan Sai Originally by: Bellum Eternus TBH I think the Myrm could sacrifice a few turret slots and gain another 50m3 in bandwidth and up the drone bay space to 250m3 and it would work out ok. Right now it's focus is too divided between guns and drones. = ishtar. BRILLIANT! Let me go get my Ishtar with it's rep bonus and better cap/EHP. Perfect. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. Tier 5 Battleships
Mire Stoude The Undesirables	Posted - 2009.10.06 03:53:00 - [54] Originally by: Bellum Eternus So I ask you, is 465 DPS and a 518 DPS tank pretty reasonable for a BC? I don't fly them that much so I'd like to know what to expect out of them. With the advent of medium sized rigs it's become practical to rig BCs now, and I've been wanting a lighter weight ship to chase war targets in empire. I think this might be a good option. Let's see some feedback please. WHAT? Battleship like damage with battleship like tank?! NERF the myrmidon (summore). (/sarcasm). I, like you, decided to try and right the Myrmidon. So I came up with this horrible fit. [Myrmidon, Shield & Lazors] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Faint Warp Disruptor I Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Ogre II x2, Hammerhead II x2, Hobgoblin II x1 (and spares) It does 727 dps and has 57k ehp. It's the only myrm fit that I've found remotely interesting in a while.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.10.06 03:57:00 - [55] Edited by: Davinel Lulinvega on 06/10/2009 03:57:49 Originally by: Mire Stoude Originally by: Bellum Eternus So I ask you, is 465 DPS and a 518 DPS tank pretty reasonable for a BC? I don't fly them that much so I'd like to know what to expect out of them. With the advent of medium sized rigs it's become practical to rig BCs now, and I've been wanting a lighter weight ship to chase war targets in empire. I think this might be a good option. Let's see some feedback please. WHAT? Battleship like damage with battleship like tank?! NERF the myrmidon (summore). (/sarcasm). I, like you, decided to try and right the Myrmidon. So I came up with this horrible fit. [Myrmidon, Shield & Lazors] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Faint Warp Disruptor I Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Ogre II x2, Hammerhead II x2, Hobgoblin II x1 (and spares) It does 727 dps and has 57k ehp. It's the only myrm fit that I've found remotely interesting in a while. Heh, that's actually very close to the fit I use. When I'm not flying a harb. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Mire Stoude The Undesirables	Posted - 2009.10.06 04:05:00 - [56] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Heh, that's actually very close to the fit I use. When I'm not flying a harb. My Point.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.10.06 06:02:00 - [57] Funny. Out of the blue I started thinking about the Myrm today. Maybe its upright position reminds me of the B-Wing......
Mahke Aeon Of Strife Dominatus Atrum Mortis	Posted - 2009.10.06 06:03:00 - [58] Edited by: Mahke on 06/10/2009 06:04:24 Originally by: Mire Stoude Originally by: Bellum Eternus So I ask you, is 465 DPS and a 518 DPS tank pretty reasonable for a BC? I don't fly them that much so I'd like to know what to expect out of them. With the advent of medium sized rigs it's become practical to rig BCs now, and I've been wanting a lighter weight ship to chase war targets in empire. I think this might be a good option. Let's see some feedback please. WHAT? Battleship like damage with battleship like tank?! NERF the myrmidon (summore). (/sarcasm). I, like you, decided to try and right the Myrmidon. So I came up with this horrible fit. [Myrmidon, Shield & Lazors] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Faint Warp Disruptor I Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Ogre II x2, Hammerhead II x2, Hobgoblin II x1 (and spares) It does 727 dps and has 57k ehp. It's the only myrm fit that I've found remotely interesting in a while. Is that.....a myrm fit I'd actually fly if I had the skills for it? call me shocked, but, in a good way. edit: wait a second; that has no cap booster -- maybe not then . whats the cap-out time on that?
Ad Valorem Minmatar Industrial Mite	Posted - 2009.10.06 11:58:00 - [59] Edited by: Ad Valorem on 06/10/2009 12:00:12 Originally by: Neuronai Edited by: Neuronai on 05/10/2009 20:53:08 Originally by: Ad Valorem Myrm is ok. BC Class is one of the best balanced. The Myrm is still outclassed by EVERY other tier 2 battlecruiser, fly a Drake. Outclassed is a pretty vague term when you deal with EVE ships, especially when dealing with ones which like you said, are as balanced as the Tier 2 BCs. Each race, ship, gun etc. has it's own disadvantages and advantages which shine in the right circumstances. I can happily say after flying every Tier 2 BC, I cannot rate one above another overall. Please feel free to post your Myrm fit and I bet it will be easy to post another tier 2 bc's fit that does the same thing better, and that is what I mean by outclassed, hardly 'vague' at all. I can also fly every tier 2 bc and can happily say it is not hard to rate the myrm as the worst of the 4. Originally by: Neuronai In my experience, the Myrm does ok with that drone bay...I don't use lasers on it and I do just fine. Light Neutrons with Void S in conjuction with the "crap" combo you talked about do 536 EFT DPS...You need to move into scram range, give drones time to reach a target etc. but to be honest outside of fleet fights I rarely find that a problem. Sure, a gank Harb can do over 600, but could it tank 666 DPS like a triple rep Myrm can? All I'm saying is the Myrm has its advantages just as the other battlecruisers do, even if you can't see them. The Myrm is slow, a Drake moves faster. Bringing a myrm to a fleet fight is fail right there. For what you propose (moving into scram range, release the drones...) a Brutix is way better. Lets see these advantages of the myrm - the only one I can see is a bit of versatility for small gang 0.0 roaming. Edit: I'm not proposing a change, one tier 2 BC has to be the worst and in this case it is the Myrm.
Wacktopia Infinity Miners Union Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.10.06 12:21:00 - [60] Edited by: Wacktopia on 06/10/2009 12:25:59 Edited by: Wacktopia on 06/10/2009 12:21:12 Since you whined so nicely, here is a buffer Myrm. Yeah, it doesnt use the ship bonuses but it's cap stable and should be able to knock out a drake or a hurricane, if you catch it inside web range. Whatever it catches, it should kill. If you get caught at range then roll the 'vespa' dice. If you get ganged then... oh well you die anyway. EHP: 95k DPS: 500 [Myrmidon, Flavour-o-the-month] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Reactive Membrane II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Patterned Stasis Web I Patterned Stasis Web I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Hybrid Burst Aerator I Hammerhead II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5



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