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Herio Mortis
Caldari Dark Nebula Academy
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Haskell
*Thou shalt spell the word "Pheonix" P-H-E-O-N-I-X. Not, P-H-O-E-N-I-X, regardless of what the Oxford English Dictionary tells you.
ITT, Scroobius Pip cameo :)
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MaxPower 519
Gallente Damage Distribution Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:40:00 -
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looks a little like the Polish drunk chicken
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destinationunreachable
Hello Kitty Fanclub
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:40:00 -
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The chicken is actually not so absurd. The french have a rooster as their mascot (?), and considering the Gallente are supposed to be somehow french-related...
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Erik Amirault
Gallente 543
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:54:00 -
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Seems like the eagle and legendary phoenix may not be around in Gallente times. Looks like a bird of prey to me though.
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Mihali
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:13:00 -
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Phoenix or Griffin. Those two were used in Medieval Heraldry.
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:19:00 -
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i cannot imagine why anyone would use an eagle as a heraldic emblem. every summer i watch eagles who nest near my home sit in trees patiently waiting for the ospreys to catch a fish so they can bully them into dropping the fish.
that pair of ospreys raise not only their own brood but 2 or 3 broods of eagles as well. i've seen the eagles catch their own meals from time to time but the vast majority of their food seems to come from theft rather than any effort of their own.
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tierie Gallente are french... americans.
So they're Canadians? 
What's all this chicken argument aboot? EVE Trivia EVE History
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ehranavaar i cannot imagine why anyone would use an eagle as a heraldic emblem. every summer i watch eagles who nest near my home sit in trees patiently waiting for the ospreys to catch a fish so they can bully them into dropping the fish.
that pair of ospreys raise not only their own brood but 2 or 3 broods of eagles as well. i've seen the eagles catch their own meals from time to time but the vast majority of their food seems to come from theft rather than any effort of their own.
Yeah, It's a common misconception that Eagles are birds of prey like hawks or whatnot, but in reality, like you've seen first hand, they're scavengers. I see them all the time hanging out at the local dump, with the seagulls and whatnot.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:34:00 -
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Well, in Europe, where the use of eagles in medieval heraldry originated the eagle is considered a the king of birds, not a scavenger. And just as an aside, the double headed eagle was the emblem of the Byzantine Empire (or the Eastern Roman Empire as they themselves called it) for about 10 centuries (4th-14th) before anyone else used it. The Czars of pre-Communism Russia used it as well, in order to promote the notion that they were the rightful inheritors of the Byzantine Empire (they did marry a lot of those princesses, didn't they?) to no avail, since that idea came to other people as well.
Now, here you can see much more clear the bird in question is indeed a Phoenix, due to the characteristic plumage and th shape of the head.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Axel Strom
Originally by: Irida Mershkov the traditional German black eagle
Unless I'm much mistaken, the Germans, or at least the Prussians, used an eagle for centuries before WW2.
Not to mention the Romans, with their legion eagle standards.
Don't the Mexicans have an eagle on their flag too?
Yes, that's why he said "the traditional German black eagle".
And yes, there is an eagle on the Mexican flag.
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Ehranavaar i cannot imagine why anyone would use an eagle as a heraldic emblem. every summer i watch eagles who nest near my home sit in trees patiently waiting for the ospreys to catch a fish so they can bully them into dropping the fish.
that pair of ospreys raise not only their own brood but 2 or 3 broods of eagles as well. i've seen the eagles catch their own meals from time to time but the vast majority of their food seems to come from theft rather than any effort of their own.
Yeah, It's a common misconception that Eagles are birds of prey like hawks or whatnot, but in reality, like you've seen first hand, they're scavengers. I see them all the time hanging out at the local dump, with the seagulls and whatnot.
What? Sorry mate, but if there's a moment to be an amateur ornithologist, then it's now. Fortunately, I am one.
Eagles are birds of prey. They actively hunt mammals and birds, and because they are usually the dominant aerial predator, they can usually steal what they can't catch. You'll find lions chasing off cheetahs or hyenas, too, in examples of similar behaviour. Local populations of some species may be more inclined to scavenge, particularly in urban areas, as fresh pickings are less common, but they are biologically fully-fledged birds of prey capable of killing and are classed as such by all ornithologists.
I've seen Golden Eagles and Sea Eagles here in the UK catch fresh prey. They are predators first and foremost. -----
Originally by: "CCP Whisper" Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Governor LePetomane
Rock Ridge Brokerage Solutions
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:24:00 -
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It is, obviously, a fine (though reversed) example of that classic heraldic image, the Screamin' Chicken.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Laude Eagles are birds of prey. They actively hunt mammals and birds,
Nice try, but that's not what defines a bird of prey. A bird of prey only eats it's prey. If you ever watch them trying to feed hawks in captivity, they have to shake the meat around to give the illusion it's alive, because they won't eat dead meat just laying on the ground. Doing that makes an animal a scavenger.
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zombiedeadhead
Minmatar In Your Head
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 11/10/2009 18:28:21
Originally by: Eran Laude Eagles are birds of prey. They actively hunt mammals and birds,
Nice try, but that's not what defines a bird of prey. A bird of prey only eats it's prey. If you ever watch them trying to feed hawks in captivity, they have to shake the meat around to give the illusion it's alive, because they won't eat dead meat just laying on the ground. Doing that makes an animal a scavenger.
edit: i'm not saying Eagles don't kill things themselves too sometimes. But they also scavenge whatever else they can find, which is an activity you don't see hawks doing.
You are wrong.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:49:00 -
[45]
In before the wikipedia references. 
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.10.11 20:10:00 -
[46]
Bird of prey
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Ella C'Tronix
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Posted - 2009.10.11 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: BiggestT
Originally by: Tierie Gallente are french... americans.
So they're Canadians? 
What's all this chicken argument aboot?
1) Canadians aren't French. There's some "French" people that live here that people from France (you know, French) claim to be speaking some language they've never heard before.
2) We don't say aboot. We say occasionally say "aboat" due to lazyness/tiredness and hungover inability to move mouth enough to make the proper sound. Whereas persons from certain US states flamboyantly pronounce it "ah-bat"
and onto the original topic:
Where do we ever see eagles portrayed in simplified form like that with detail of that feather sticking out at the back of the head? This characteristic in particular rarely appears in eagle depictions.
Whereas almost every depiction of the phoenix highlights this as a prominent detail.
Eagle: http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=eagle+symbol&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
Phoenix:
http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=phoenix+symbol&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
Shark: http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=shark+symbol&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
Eagle Vs Shark: http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=eagle+vs+shark&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.10.11 20:19:00 -
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I'm going to shoot down all your theories.
It's not an eagle. It's not a phoenix. It's not a falcon. It's not a chicken. There is no reason to assume that any of those birds ever existed on Gallente Prime at any point in its history.
It is possible that the bird in the emblem is a stylized version of a bird-like creature native to Gallente Prime, or even a representation of mythical creature that has nothing to do with any earth-living creature (or modern or historical mythic creature).
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Governor LePetomane
Rock Ridge Brokerage Solutions
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Posted - 2009.10.11 20:20:00 -
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As a humorous and thoroughly pedantic aside, the US 101st Airborne division was referred to as "the chicken men" by the Vietnamese due to its distinctive eagle's head shoulder patch.
It wasn't an insult; it's just that there are no eagles native to Vietnam.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.11 20:30:00 -
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Isn't there a USAF squadron officially named "Screaming Chickens" for the same reason (eagle emblem)?
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Ella C'Tronix
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Posted - 2009.10.11 20:34:00 -
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Very informative video on the feats of the "Screaming Chicken" a few of you brought up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haZxKAbsmKQ
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Sys Root
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Posted - 2009.10.11 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Axel Strom Don't the Mexicans have an eagle on their flag too?
Yup, interesting story, in legend the Aztecs received a message from their gods ordering them to find a location for their capitol city. The gods bade them to find an eagle, eating a snake, whilst perched on a cactus, growing on a rock, half submerged in water. Needless to say it took them a couple of hundred years roaming the lands to find such a site. When they did, they founded their city arround the lake and called it Tenochtitlan, now known as Mexico City.
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Governor LePetomane
Rock Ridge Brokerage Solutions
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Posted - 2009.10.11 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai I'm going to shoot down all your theories.
It's not an eagle. It's not a phoenix. It's not a falcon. It's not a chicken. There is no reason to assume that any of those birds ever existed on Gallente Prime at any point in its history.
It is possible that the bird in the emblem is a stylized version of a bird-like creature native to Gallente Prime, or even a representation of mythical creature that has nothing to do with any earth-living creature (or modern or historical mythic creature).
I think ultimately I'm going to have to go with this one, barring some contradictory statement from the devs or the fluff that I don't read. It's a lot more satisfying than the other stuff.
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance

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Posted - 2009.10.11 21:55:00 -
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It's clearly a horse.
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Governor LePetomane
Rock Ridge Brokerage Solutions
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Posted - 2009.10.11 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave It's clearly a horse.
Don't bogart, pass that over this way.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.10.11 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave It's clearly a horse.
Well there you have it.
Official CCP response. 
(I still say it's a turkey)
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.10.11 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 11/10/2009 18:28:21
Originally by: Eran Laude Eagles are birds of prey. They actively hunt mammals and birds,
Nice try, but that's not what defines a bird of prey. A bird of prey only eats it's prey. If you ever watch them trying to feed hawks in captivity, they have to shake the meat around to give the illusion it's alive, because they won't eat dead meat just laying on the ground. Doing that makes an animal a scavenger.
edit: i'm not saying Eagles don't kill things themselves too sometimes. But they also scavenge whatever else they can find, which is an activity you don't see hawks doing.
Mate, please don't try and embarrass yourself further. Eagles are not only birds of prey, but they are the most recognisable raptors in the world.
The definition of a bird of prey is any bird that falls in the following families: Accipitridae Pandionidae Sagittariidae Falconidae Cathartidae
Eagles fall into the first taxonomical family. Not only that, but all vultures are classified as birds of prey through their presence in the Accipitridae and Cathartidae families.
So, either your definition is wrong because eagles apparently are primary scavengers [load of *******s], as are vultures, which themselves are classified as birds of prey taxonomically, or it's wrong because eagles are classified as birds of prey regardless of their hunting methods. Either way, eagles are actively hunting birds of prey.
/nerd -----
Originally by: "CCP Whisper" Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Nouva MacGyver
Caldari MacGyver Communications
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Posted - 2009.10.12 13:06:00 -
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.10.12 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ehranavaar i cannot imagine why anyone would use an eagle as a heraldic emblem. every summer i watch eagles who nest near my home sit in trees patiently waiting for the ospreys to catch a fish so they can bully them into dropping the fish.
that pair of ospreys raise not only their own brood but 2 or 3 broods of eagles as well. i've seen the eagles catch their own meals from time to time but the vast majority of their food seems to come from theft rather than any effort of their own.
So then Eagles are the perfect symbol for the bulk of Eve Online players. Spot on CCP.
 --Vel
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.10.12 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave It's clearly a horse.
Hippogriff? --Vel
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