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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.10.11 14:58:00 -
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I love how some brits will place 'an' before a 'H' word, and then justify this by not pronouncing the 'H' in the word at all. ♥
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Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:03:00 -
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'tis an 'onour to meet you.
Tbh, if I pronounced the H at the start of honour, it would sound ******ed.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Another Liberthas 'tis an 'onour to meet you.
Tbh, if I pronounced the H at the start of honour, it would sound ******ed.
"Honn-Or.
'Onour is how you pronounce it.
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Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Another Liberthas 'tis an 'onour to meet you.
Tbh, if I pronounced the H at the start of honour, it would sound ******ed.
"Honn-Or.
'Onour is how you pronounce it.
I am aware of this. Hence "'onour" at the start of my post.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum I love how some brits will place 'an' before a 'H' word, and then justify this by not pronouncing the 'H' in the word at all.
That's not a faux pas at all. "A" is used before a consonant sound, and "An" is used before a vowel sound. Since the H in honour is silent you use "an". This also applies to acronyms. As such it's for example A U.N. resolution and not the other way around. ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn. |
Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Another Liberthas 'tis an 'onour to meet you.
Tbh, if I pronounced the H at the start of honour, it would sound ******ed.
"Honn-Or.
'Onour is how you pronounce it.
I am aware of this. Hence "'onour" at the start of my post.
I was more of giving a nod to not using the H literally when pronouncing the word.
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Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Another Liberthas 'tis an 'onour to meet you.
Tbh, if I pronounced the H at the start of honour, it would sound ******ed.
"Honn-Or.
'Onour is how you pronounce it.
I am aware of this. Hence "'onour" at the start of my post.
I was more of giving a nod to not using the H literally when pronouncing the word.
Oh right. Carry on then.
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: BiggestT on 11/10/2009 17:57:54 Edited by: BiggestT on 11/10/2009 17:57:19
Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Originally by: Awesome Possum I love how some brits will place 'an' before a 'H' word, and then justify this by not pronouncing the 'H' in the word at all.
That's not a faux pas at all. "A" is used before a consonant sound, and "An" is used before a vowel sound. Since the H in honour is silent you use "an". This also applies to acronyms. As such it's for example A U.N. resolution and not the other way around.
Hence why I always type "an MWD" or "an LSE"
Damn acronyms!
one of my fav. faux paus (more a common misconception by ppl but meh)
Is the word incredible and fantastic.
Incredible actually means that you can't credit it, i.e. you don't think its correct! (So saying, "he has incredible skills", is actually discrediting them!)
Fantastic actually describes fantasy. So if you say, "this ship is fantastic", you're actually saying that it allures to fantasy, i.e. it doesn't exhist!
Kinda tinfoil but meh, it always bugs me when i hear the news, and even my university lectureers do it EVE Trivia EVE History
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Denny Haze
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:14:00 -
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Incredible is negative for credible, which means believable, not credit. And fantastic isn't fantasy, it's a synonym of wonderful.
I may not be explaining this very well, but I know you're wrong.
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: BiggestT on 11/10/2009 18:44:35 Edited by: BiggestT on 11/10/2009 18:39:35
Originally by: Denny Haze Incredible is negative for credible, which means believable, not credit. And fantastic isn't fantasy, it's a synonym of wonderful.
I may not be explaining this very well, but I know you're wrong.
No fantastic allures to fantasy. It is synonymous with wonderful, but it is slightly different.
And credible and believable are synonymous
edit: nvm I get what you mean, credit vs. credible aye edit 2: However, credible stems from the word credit, so they're sort of interchangable
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Denny Haze
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:27:00 -
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Which credit do you mean? The one in banks, or giving someone credit for something? Either way, I can't see it.
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum I love how some brits will place 'an' before a 'H' word, and then justify this by not pronouncing the 'H' in the word at all.
You mean like how weird americans pronounce 'herbs' as 'erbs'? -------------
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.10.11 21:44:00 -
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I can't believe nobody has bought up the "an hero" meme yet.
As for the OP, how is it a faux pas? Some words beginning with H have the H silent, as has already been pointed out. Har har, what an horrible mistake to make. ____________________
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Meckle Moiyal
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Posted - 2009.10.11 22:02:00 -
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My wife watches all thos damn nanny shows that come to fix ****ed up family's. They ( I assume) are from england and all and when they say teh word together what you hear is togeva.Or atleast that what it sounds like to me..
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Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
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Posted - 2009.10.11 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Meckle Moiyal My wife watches all thos damn nanny shows that come to fix ****ed up family's. They ( I assume) are from england and all and when they say teh word together what you hear is togeva.Or atleast that what it sounds like to me..
I do enjoy making fun of my English cousins' spoken English. They come from south London.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.11 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Meckle Moiyal My wife watches all thos damn nanny shows that come to fix ****ed up family's. They ( I assume) are from england and all and when they say teh word together what you hear is togeva.Or atleast that what it sounds like to me..
I do enjoy making fun of my English cousins' spoken English. They come from south London.
But South london has about 2-3 distinct different dialects. ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn. |
Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.10.11 22:55:00 -
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Growing up in Boston I learned to appreciate any English accent or dialect that wasn't Bostonian. Even if the British or Australian versions sound a little odd to me it's still much better than the knife-in-the-ear Bostonian speech. Every time I hear some Southie jackass says he wants to "ax" me a question I want to axe his face.
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.10.11 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Hudson on 11/10/2009 22:59:02 American's telling us how to speak our own language, will i'll be damned
yes im trolling
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Nai Ling
Amarr Middle Finger Technology
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Posted - 2009.10.12 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth Growing up in Boston I learned to appreciate any English accent or dialect that wasn't Bostonian. Even if the British or Australian versions sound a little odd to me it's still much better than the knife-in-the-ear Bostonian speech. Every time I hear some Southie jackass says he wants to "ax" me a question I want to axe his face.
TBH, this is my greatest pet peeve. Or referring to children as "Churrin." Insurance as "Shawnce." Everyone's name is "Bo." In fact, most people have forgotten how to pronounce most words that have more than one syllable. It's quite sad and scary at the same time.
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Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
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Posted - 2009.10.12 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Meckle Moiyal My wife watches all thos damn nanny shows that come to fix ****ed up family's. They ( I assume) are from england and all and when they say teh word together what you hear is togeva.Or atleast that what it sounds like to me..
I do enjoy making fun of my English cousins' spoken English. They come from south London.
But South london has about 2-3 distinct different dialects.
And yet none of them can pronounce butter.
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Kravick Drasani
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Posted - 2009.10.12 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth Growing up in Boston I learned to appreciate any English accent or dialect that wasn't Bostonian. Even if the British or Australian versions sound a little odd to me it's still much better than the knife-in-the-ear Bostonian speech. Every time I hear some Southie jackass says he wants to "ax" me a question I want to axe his face.
Thats a problem every where in America. Unfortunately I'd sound racist if I said anything further on the "ax" pronunciation.
Try New Orleans. I visited New Orleans once when I was 16. Some of the people there I could hardly understand. They where supposedly speaking English but I didn't hear any. They pronounce New Orleans as "nawlins." At least thats what it sounded like to me. -
Originally by: Rilwar If you want to nag on warp speed, how about the question of "Why does my Crow manage to go 9.5AU/s for 2 seconds during a 9AU jump?"
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.10.12 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Denny Haze Which credit do you mean? The one in banks, or giving someone credit for something? Either way, I can't see it.
Look up the word "credit" and the word "credible" in a dictionary
Then come back ;) EVE Trivia EVE History
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Ananke Liroj
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Posted - 2009.10.12 11:06:00 -
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New Orleans has a wide variety of cultural influence reflected through accents, but to get an even bigger taste head west to the bayous. Cajun (French Canadian), Creole (French Caribbean), native Caribbean dialects, African dialects, southern plantation drawl... it's a lovely, quirky mix that's one of the hardest American dialects to hold on to in conversation. Takes being raised there or a few years living it. :)
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Caius Severus
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Posted - 2009.10.12 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasani Unfortunately I'd sound racist if I said anything further on the "ax" pronunciation.
You might be surprised to learn that it has its roots in old English. Even Chaucer uses it "I axe, why the fyfte man Was nought housband to the Samaritan?", so it isn't really down to a particular race, but rather the spread of dialect and how language changes over time.
More details here: http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19991216
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.10.12 17:39:00 -
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Australian.
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Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.10.12 19:49:00 -
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incredible, see unbelievable... "this ship is incredible!" = "I actually don't believe this ship is as good as it looks" (or am I wrong?)
also, from one of the middle James Bond movies (Roger Moore): "You is ugly!" - said by a Texan to an elephant (if I recall correctly)
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zombiedeadhead
Minmatar In Your Head
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Posted - 2009.10.12 19:57:00 -
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'faux pas' isn't English.
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Nuala Reece
Caldari Pilots of Damnation death from above..
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Posted - 2009.10.12 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai DelaterielThat's not a faux pas at all. "A" is used before a consonant sound, and "An" is used before a vowel sound. Since the H in honour is silent you use "an".[/quote
I'm pretty certain you're supposed to use 'an' before any word beginning with 'h', even if it's a pronounced 'h', like in 'horrible' as mentioned. So really it's a quirk rather than a faux pas.
This is my favourite sort-of-but-not faux pas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu9MptWyCB8
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.10.12 21:19:00 -
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Okay, the one that winds me up is people using 'of' instead of 'have' in contexts like "I would have gone but..." or "It couldn't have been him", etc. Because pronunciation has shortened it to 'could've', it's somehow made the jump to 'of'. Aggggh, hate it hate it. -------------
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. United Corporate Ventures
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Posted - 2009.10.13 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nuala Reece
Originally by: Nomakai DelaterielThat's not a faux pas at all. "A" is used before a consonant sound, and "An" is used before a vowel sound. Since the H in honour is silent you use "an".[/quote
I'm pretty certain you're supposed to use 'an' before any word beginning with 'h', even if it's a pronounced 'h', like in 'horrible' as mentioned. So really it's a quirk rather than a faux pas.
This is my favourite sort-of-but-not faux pas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu9MptWyCB8
No, if the H is silent, it gets an "an", as with "honor", or when spoken if you don't bother to pronounce the H, but that's not exactly easy to enforce. If you pronounce the H, say in "house" or "hound" it would have an "a"
We basically have the French to thank for this.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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