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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2009.10.15 05:42:00 -
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His complaint was that it requires too many skills that take too long to train to effectively enjoy it. The learning curve did not scare him off the long commitment you make to Eve did. He also did not like hours of gate after gate. I just typed it up so the devs could read it. I'm sure they have seen this sort of thing before.
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Baastardo
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Posted - 2009.10.15 05:55:00 -
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You know you have made an effective post when you spend more time thinking about posting than what you actually post.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2009.10.15 06:07:00 -
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I also hate how you have to play EVE for hours on end, grinding experience to get decent skills. All those hours spent staring at a small experience bar, telling yourself "I'm sure I just saw it move in the past three hours"
Oh wai..
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Asuka Smith
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.10.15 06:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Artemis Rose
I also hate how you have to play EVE for hours on end, grinding experience to get decent skills. All those hours spent staring at a small experience bar, telling yourself "I'm sure I just saw it move in the past three hours"
Oh wai..
You know I used to think this too, but then I realized that myself and most other people in EVE spend WAY more time logged in in a given stretch than anyone in WoW.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Sentinels
Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.15 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Asuka Smith
Originally by: Artemis Rose
I also hate how you have to play EVE for hours on end, grinding experience to get decent skills. All those hours spent staring at a small experience bar, telling yourself "I'm sure I just saw it move in the past three hours"
Oh wai..
You know I used to think this too, but then I realized that myself and most other people in EVE spend WAY more time logged in in a given stretch than anyone in WoW.
Tbh... leveling in WoW is probably the most painless leveling in any game. Not difficult at all.
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N'tek alar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.15 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Asuka Smith
Originally by: Artemis Rose
I also hate how you have to play EVE for hours on end, grinding experience to get decent skills. All those hours spent staring at a small experience bar, telling yourself "I'm sure I just saw it move in the past three hours"
Oh wai..
You know I used to think this too, but then I realized that myself and most other people in EVE spend WAY more time logged in in a given stretch than anyone in WoW.
Tbh... leveling in WoW is probably the most painless leveling in any game. Not difficult at all.
No, not difficult, Just mindnumbingly boring, slow, repetitive, sort of like it is in most other level based mmos.
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Tim theTrader
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Posted - 2009.10.15 06:42:00 -
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Hate to point it out to you guys but almost all games start like this. You start in a game and you get a crowbar, then a pistol, the a shotgun, then a submachine gun.
Can't handle it? Solitare is free on Window OS's.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Novus Auctorita
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Asuka Smith
You know I used to think this too, but then I realized that myself and most other people in EVE spend WAY more time logged in in a given stretch than anyone in WoW.
Same here, except I do my coding, get my laundry done, watch prn and take the dog for a walk while I'm gaining both 'experience' and 'gold', plus being ready for pvp.
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Ambo
I've Got Nothing
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Rage
it requires too many skills that take too long to train to effectively enjoy it.
Clearly enjoyment is subjective. Tbh though, if anyone thinks having more skills will increase their enjoyment then they're doing it wrong.
There is a ton of fun to be had without masses of skill points.
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Lord Kazuhiro
1st Galactic Manufacturing
Confederate Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tim theTrader
Hate to point it out to you guys but almost all games start like this. You start in a game and you get a crowbar, then a pistol, the a shotgun, then a submachine gun.
Can't handle it? Solitare is free on Window OS's.
Gah I can't remember the name of it, but someone made a game making fun of this very element. You started with the biggest gun in the game, and fought the biggest monsters, then later on you downgraded(upgraded) to smaller and smaller guns and fought smaller and smaller enemies. Yet the biggest stuff did the least damage, and the smallest stuff did the most damage. (Both guns and enemies alike.) There was also another where you had to upgrade everything in the game, including the game's graphics, the buttons on the menu, you even had to upgrade the ending.
/pointless rant off
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:19:00 -
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It's the journey that's important, not the destination.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: N'tek alar
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Tbh... leveling in WoW is probably the most painless leveling in any game. Not difficult at all.
No, not difficult, Just mindnumbingly boring, slow, repetitive, sort of like it is in most other level based mmos.
Sometimes I think about pointing out the idea that the experience grinding in most MMORPGs is simply replaced by isk grinding in EVE......
If the OP doesn't like traveling around and long term play, then congratulations you do not like MMORPGs, go play Halo ODST (it rocks)
Originally by: CCP Whisper
So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Julien Olivier
The Society for Creative Euthanasia
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
It's the journey that's important, not the destination.
Precisely.
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Haks'he Lirky
Durgarnir
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:47:00 -
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Been playing for 6 years and still find skills that I need to train and wait for.
I have started a new character a few months back and I was actually amazed how easy it is to make an effective character quickly, especially with the new 100% training speed.
With three months it is easy to be effective and have fun. Unless your friend looked at Battleships or any T2 ships with longing eyes, because that is not realistic in three months of Eve.
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Cambarus
Clearly Compensating
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:00:00 -
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Gonna say this first, and I'm gonna underline it and make it bold because it's the most important part of this post:
If you don't enjoy eve at 1 million skillpoints you won't enjoy it at 50 million either.
That feeling you get of "oooooo just one more skill then I'll be badass" doesn't go away. I'm at about 44 million skillpoints right now. I just need ooooooonnnnnnneeeeee more skill to 5 then I can use t2 large ACs (started training this when I saw what was happening in dom :P ) One more skill, then I'll be badass...
And before that it was t2 medium pulses
And before that it was t2 minni cruisers/BCs
And before that it was t2 medium ACs
And before that it was command ships
And before that etc etc etc.
There will be points in the game when you're not quite sure what you want to train next, but these moments tend not to last too long before you find the next thing that will make you a solopwnmobile once you finish training it.
One last thing to consider:
In eve there are 2 types of mindsets concerning skill training:
1 group of people who train to be as skilled as possible in 1 specific ship/type of ship/race, and another who train to fly just about everything with decent support skills, for newer players, the latter is advised, if you find a ship you really, really like flying, then sure, max its skills out because hey, why fly something else if you're still having fun flying what you have? However, until you find something that you enjoy flying enough to stick with it for a long time, it's usually best to diversify as much as possible, you greatly increase the odds of enjoying the game by doing that, best case scenario you find a ship you absolutely love and stick with it, worst case scenario you've gone and trained yourself to be useful in almost any situation. |
Lord XSiV
Amarr
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:08:00 -
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Actually to be honest now that I have hit over 90m sp, I am going to start fresh new chars to play in order to get the 'new player' experience rush all over again.
Plus pods are way cheaper :)
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
It's the journey that's important, not the destination.
A banal cliche, but it's a cliche because it's true.
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Marcus Atntony
The Element Syndicate
Black Mesa Project
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:31:00 -
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I usually go by this theory in eve,
By the time you finally have the SP for something, you'll probably also finally have the isk to make it affordable, the knowledge of how to effectively use it the game, and an actual profitable purpose for using it and not looking like a noob in doing so.
Ie there is nothing wrong with the skill pacing in eve, it suits it just fine.
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2009.10.15 09:03:00 -
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Ranting is not allowed.
Locked.
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