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sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 07:21:00 - [1] i am former p.a and 20th legion member and founder in the past few weeks i have become unhappy with things that were going on in my corp and the fact that i was fired at by a gods pilot who was sitting along side a bad guy who he had a sworn duty to kill instead he attacked me. any way thats anouther story. the fact is this i left the 20th and the p.a to start my own corp and enjoy eve and yes i had a strong dissagrement with the chief and leader of the p.a but he could not see that the 20th was collapsing around him and the fact that he was putting his own power hunger over his own corp and freinds was the last straw for me the chief and i were close freinds and he helped me get my char were it is today. and i was deeply upset on his dicision to promote a member in the 20th with out a vote and against my wishes as a director. so affter a short and nasty discussion i was told that if i did not like it to leave so i did. i was then asked to join a corp called dead by dawn a new corp of players who have only been playing eve for 6 months and are only numbering 16 and they were just a mining corp in empire.i was with them one week and in that time the rift became bigger between me and the 20th so i left and set up my own corp called legions of gaul and then declared war on the 20th. now you might ask why did i do that well at the moment that does not matter.after i had left members of the 20th backed by the leader of the p.a told the c.e.o of dead by dawn that the p.a would declare war on there tiny corp becase i used to be a member and that some outher ex 20th members were in that corp that if they were not removed from dead by dawn he would send the might of the p.a to kill 16 empire miners who had nothing to do with the disagreement between me and him. well is this is not the sort of honourable behaviour you would expect from the leader of the p.a ? at least i had the balls to stand against the 20th and the leader of the p.a on my own in one raven and all he has done is threaten 16 nOob miners in empire. come on thats not right now is it ? my fight is just with the 20th not the p.a and its between me and the 20th and nobody but the 20th so come on chief leave them miners alone they ant done you any harm. the 20th is falling apart at the moment with members leaving each week becase he is never on line to help them.so if he carnt look after his own small corp you have to ask your self can he look after the might of the p.a.? at the moment its my raven against one tyrannical leader and his corp. so come p.a sort your leader out and leave them good guys in dead by dawn alone.they are not bad guys. and by the way the old 20th members have left dead by dawn as you asked to stop you from picking on them.
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 07:21:00 - [2] i am former p.a and 20th legion member and founder in the past few weeks i have become unhappy with things that were going on in my corp and the fact that i was fired at by a gods pilot who was sitting along side a bad guy who he had a sworn duty to kill instead he attacked me. any way thats anouther story. the fact is this i left the 20th and the p.a to start my own corp and enjoy eve and yes i had a strong dissagrement with the chief and leader of the p.a but he could not see that the 20th was collapsing around him and the fact that he was putting his own power hunger over his own corp and freinds was the last straw for me the chief and i were close freinds and he helped me get my char were it is today. and i was deeply upset on his dicision to promote a member in the 20th with out a vote and against my wishes as a director. so affter a short and nasty discussion i was told that if i did not like it to leave so i did. i was then asked to join a corp called dead by dawn a new corp of players who have only been playing eve for 6 months and are only numbering 16 and they were just a mining corp in empire.i was with them one week and in that time the rift became bigger between me and the 20th so i left and set up my own corp called legions of gaul and then declared war on the 20th. now you might ask why did i do that well at the moment that does not matter.after i had left members of the 20th backed by the leader of the p.a told the c.e.o of dead by dawn that the p.a would declare war on there tiny corp becase i used to be a member and that some outher ex 20th members were in that corp that if they were not removed from dead by dawn he would send the might of the p.a to kill 16 empire miners who had nothing to do with the disagreement between me and him. well is this is not the sort of honourable behaviour you would expect from the leader of the p.a ? at least i had the balls to stand against the 20th and the leader of the p.a on my own in one raven and all he has done is threaten 16 nOob miners in empire. come on thats not right now is it ? my fight is just with the 20th not the p.a and its between me and the 20th and nobody but the 20th so come on chief leave them miners alone they ant done you any harm. the 20th is falling apart at the moment with members leaving each week becase he is never on line to help them.so if he carnt look after his own small corp you have to ask your self can he look after the might of the p.a.? at the moment its my raven against one tyrannical leader and his corp. so come p.a sort your leader out and leave them good guys in dead by dawn alone.they are not bad guys. and by the way the old 20th members have left dead by dawn as you asked to stop you from picking on them.
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2004.10.30 07:46:00 - [3] Well now you see what the rest of us saw. I wish you the best. Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass.
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2004.10.30 07:46:00 - [4] Well now you see what the rest of us saw. I wish you the best. Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass.
Mica'lov	Posted - 2004.10.30 07:55:00 - [5] Edited by: Mica'lov on 30/10/2004 07:58:20 Originally by: sj* the fact that i was fired at by a gods pilot who was sitting along side a bad guy who he had a sworn duty to kill instead he attacked me. was it bob? if not then we have no "sworn duty" to kill anyone and if it was bob i HIGHLY doubt it was on purpose. Quote: i was then asked to join a corp called dead by dawn a new corp of players who have only been playing eve for 6 months Sorry 6 months aint new Quote:** i left and set up my own corp called legions of gaul and then declared war on the 20th. now you might ask why did i do that well at the moment that does not matter.after i had left members of the 20th backed by the leader of the p.a told the c.e.o of dead by dawn that the p.a would declare war on there tiny corp becase i used to be a member and that some outher ex 20th members were in that corp that if they were not removed from dead by dawn he would send the might of the p.a to kill 16 empire miners who had nothing to do with the disagreement between me and him. Funny how the founder of dead by dawn is also a member of your legion corp.......no connection ay??. What ever happened in 20th dont know and dont care as its there business but i hearby award you with the official Jade constantine post of BS award Alt of juduzz
Mica'lov	Posted - 2004.10.30 07:55:00 - [6] Edited by: Mica'lov on 30/10/2004 07:58:20 Originally by: sj* the fact that i was fired at by a gods pilot who was sitting along side a bad guy who he had a sworn duty to kill instead he attacked me. was it bob? if not then we have no "sworn duty" to kill anyone and if it was bob i HIGHLY doubt it was on purpose. Quote: i was then asked to join a corp called dead by dawn a new corp of players who have only been playing eve for 6 months Sorry 6 months aint new Quote:** i left and set up my own corp called legions of gaul and then declared war on the 20th. now you might ask why did i do that well at the moment that does not matter.after i had left members of the 20th backed by the leader of the p.a told the c.e.o of dead by dawn that the p.a would declare war on there tiny corp becase i used to be a member and that some outher ex 20th members were in that corp that if they were not removed from dead by dawn he would send the might of the p.a to kill 16 empire miners who had nothing to do with the disagreement between me and him. Funny how the founder of dead by dawn is also a member of your legion corp.......no connection ay??. What ever happened in 20th dont know and dont care as its there business but i hearby award you with the official Jade constantine post of BS award Alt of juduzz
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2004.10.30 08:04:00 - [7] the guy above me is a dumbass. thank you ccp for letting me take up your bandwith to say this. --------------------------------------------
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2004.10.30 08:04:00 - [8] the guy above me is a dumbass. thank you ccp for letting me take up your bandwith to say this. --------------------------------------------
Tbone	Posted - 2004.10.30 08:06:00 - [9] Originally by: sj*** i am former p.a and 20th legion member and founder in the past few weeks i have become unhappy with things that were going on in my corp and the fact that i was fired at by a gods pilot who was sitting along side a bad guy who he had a sworn duty to kill instead he attacked me. any way thats anouther story. the fact is this i left the 20th and the p.a to start my own corp and enjoy eve and yes i had a strong dissagrement with the chief and leader of the p.a but he could not see that the 20th was collapsing around him and the fact that he was putting his own power hunger over his own corp and freinds was the last straw for me the chief and i were close freinds and he helped me get my char were it is today. and i was deeply upset on his dicision to promote a member in the 20th with out a vote and against my wishes as a director. so affter a short and nasty discussion i was told that if i did not like it to leave so i did. i was then asked to join a corp called dead by dawn a new corp of players who have only been playing eve for 6 months and are only numbering 16 and they were just a mining corp in empire.i was with them one week and in that time the rift became bigger between me and the 20th so i left and set up my own corp called legions of gaul and then declared war on the 20th. now you might ask why did i do that well at the moment that does not matter.after i had left members of the 20th backed by the leader of the p.a told the c.e.o of dead by dawn that the p.a would declare war on there tiny corp becase i used to be a member and that some outher ex 20th members were in that corp that if they were not removed from dead by dawn he would send the might of the p.a to kill 16 empire miners who had nothing to do with the disagreement between me and him. well is this is not the sort of honourable behaviour you would expect from the leader of the p.a ? at least i had the balls to stand against the 20th and the leader of the p.a on my own in one raven and all he has done is threaten 16 nOob miners in empire. come on thats not right now is it ? my fight is just with the 20th not the p.a and its between me and the 20th and nobody but the 20th so come on chief leave them miners alone they ant done you any harm. the 20th is falling apart at the moment with members leaving each week becase he is never on line to help them.so if he carnt look after his own small corp you have to ask your self can he look after the might of the p.a.? at the moment its my raven against one tyrannical leader and his corp. so come p.a sort your leader out and leave them good guys in dead by dawn alone.they are not bad guys. and by the way the old 20th members have left dead by dawn as you asked to stop you from picking on them. DUDE, use punctuations and paragraph breaks. U gave me a headache from hell. ----------------------------------------------- Unholy Killboard
Tbone	Posted - 2004.10.30 08:06:00 - [10] Originally by: sj*** i am former p.a and 20th legion member and founder in the past few weeks i have become unhappy with things that were going on in my corp and the fact that i was fired at by a gods pilot who was sitting along side a bad guy who he had a sworn duty to kill instead he attacked me. any way thats anouther story. the fact is this i left the 20th and the p.a to start my own corp and enjoy eve and yes i had a strong dissagrement with the chief and leader of the p.a but he could not see that the 20th was collapsing around him and the fact that he was putting his own power hunger over his own corp and freinds was the last straw for me the chief and i were close freinds and he helped me get my char were it is today. and i was deeply upset on his dicision to promote a member in the 20th with out a vote and against my wishes as a director. so affter a short and nasty discussion i was told that if i did not like it to leave so i did. i was then asked to join a corp called dead by dawn a new corp of players who have only been playing eve for 6 months and are only numbering 16 and they were just a mining corp in empire.i was with them one week and in that time the rift became bigger between me and the 20th so i left and set up my own corp called legions of gaul and then declared war on the 20th. now you might ask why did i do that well at the moment that does not matter.after i had left members of the 20th backed by the leader of the p.a told the c.e.o of dead by dawn that the p.a would declare war on there tiny corp becase i used to be a member and that some outher ex 20th members were in that corp that if they were not removed from dead by dawn he would send the might of the p.a to kill 16 empire miners who had nothing to do with the disagreement between me and him. well is this is not the sort of honourable behaviour you would expect from the leader of the p.a ? at least i had the balls to stand against the 20th and the leader of the p.a on my own in one raven and all he has done is threaten 16 nOob miners in empire. come on thats not right now is it ? my fight is just with the 20th not the p.a and its between me and the 20th and nobody but the 20th so come on chief leave them miners alone they ant done you any harm. the 20th is falling apart at the moment with members leaving each week becase he is never on line to help them.so if he carnt look after his own small corp you have to ask your self can he look after the might of the p.a.? at the moment its my raven against one tyrannical leader and his corp. so come p.a sort your leader out and leave them good guys in dead by dawn alone.they are not bad guys. and by the way the old 20th members have left dead by dawn as you asked to stop you from picking on them. DUDE, use punctuations and paragraph breaks. U gave me a headache from hell. ----------------------------------------------- Unholy Killboard
Yolan	Posted - 2004.10.30 08:18:00 - [11] OMG I can't believe I ever called you a trusted friend. Lets get the facts straight, 1. You left 20th legion due to a number of issues with Cochise and the PA but to be perfectly honest were you ever happy with anything, all you did was *** and moan about everything. 2. Upon leaving 20th and joining Dead by Dawn you then sent an evemail to many of the 20th members trying to recruit them into the corp you joined. 3. Whilst still a member of dead by dawn your alt corp declared war on 20th legion. Now tbh i couldn't give a rats ass if its you or your alts that declared its the same player so that makes you and all your alts KOS and if that means we have to declare war on the corp you joined then so be it. Tis you who decided to hide behind a group of miners. 4. You then transferred your main sj* to your alt corp and the other ex members of 20th you recruited went to your alt corp as well. So really its just your corp - legions of gaul vs 20th legion. As far as I know no other PA corp has declared war on you but even if they did SO WHAT! Protecting and fighting for one another is what an Alliance is all about. Now the above are just my personal views and not an official 20th legion statement but im sure many of my sentiments are echoed by the other 20th members. /me ducks the enevitable flames from various factions
Yolan	Posted - 2004.10.30 08:18:00 - [12] OMG I can't believe I ever called you a trusted friend. Lets get the facts straight, 1. You left 20th legion due to a number of issues with Cochise and the PA but to be perfectly honest were you ever happy with anything, all you did was *** and moan about everything. 2. Upon leaving 20th and joining Dead by Dawn you then sent an evemail to many of the 20th members trying to recruit them into the corp you joined. 3. Whilst still a member of dead by dawn your alt corp declared war on 20th legion. Now tbh i couldn't give a rats ass if its you or your alts that declared its the same player so that makes you and all your alts KOS and if that means we have to declare war on the corp you joined then so be it. Tis you who decided to hide behind a group of miners. 4. You then transferred your main sj* to your alt corp and the other ex members of 20th you recruited went to your alt corp as well. So really its just your corp - legions of gaul vs 20th legion. As far as I know no other PA corp has declared war on you but even if they did SO WHAT! Protecting and fighting for one another is what an Alliance is all about. Now the above are just my personal views and not an official 20th legion statement but im sure many of my sentiments are echoed by the other 20th members. /me ducks the enevitable flames from various factions
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 09:52:00 - [13] Edited by: sj** on 30/10/2004 09:56:02* well yolan thank you for backing up what i have posted you have just admitted that your corp was going to gank the dead by dawn pilots for having ex 20th members and me in it and as for hiding i dont think so bud. i was not hiding when i killed arm,s and chong two nights ago i was not hiding when i made oceana log off i was not hiding when i camped your station and nearly killed a megathon in the system called claranum last night all on my own aginst 5 members of the 20th i was not hiding when a 12 year old boy who is a brave member of my new corp killed oceana in his crow with just a kesstrel. and dont it just speak volums about the state of the 20th when some of its pilots and ex directors have come to the stage of joining me and fighting against there old corp mates.and it speaks volums at the leader of the p.a,s lack of control over his own corp let alone that of the p.a.who deserve better than what is going on right now. flame on
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 09:52:00 - [14] Edited by: sj** on 30/10/2004 09:56:02* well yolan thank you for backing up what i have posted you have just admitted that your corp was going to gank the dead by dawn pilots for having ex 20th members and me in it and as for hiding i dont think so bud. i was not hiding when i killed arm,s and chong two nights ago i was not hiding when i made oceana log off i was not hiding when i camped your station and nearly killed a megathon in the system called claranum last night all on my own aginst 5 members of the 20th i was not hiding when a 12 year old boy who is a brave member of my new corp killed oceana in his crow with just a kesstrel. and dont it just speak volums about the state of the 20th when some of its pilots and ex directors have come to the stage of joining me and fighting against there old corp mates.and it speaks volums at the leader of the p.a,s lack of control over his own corp let alone that of the p.a.who deserve better than what is going on right now. flame on
Ghanimah	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:00:00 - [15] Edited by: Ghanimah on 30/10/2004 10:11:29 Edited by: Ghanimah on 30/10/2004 10:08:09 sj*, you are so good to only see what YOU think. Besides who is talking about 'innocent miners', YOU are the that kills everyone in your way, even former corp mates (as you ever heard of those words) who have never done something wrong, in the contrary who always were loyal. And attracting people like AANGA and JumpN John to stab us in the back, omfg do you really believe your ow bullst that is coming out of your mouth? Nand you like to hear that we were planning to declare war on DBD because of some backstabber huh, well we didn't, on teh contrary it's you who has declared war for crying out loud ! You want me dead and I don't even know why, there is no real reason besides your messed up head man. And speaking about the 20th falling apart? It has never been so close as it is at this very right moment. Get a life, you little child. That's all I think about you.
Ghanimah	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:00:00 - [16] Edited by: Ghanimah on 30/10/2004 10:11:29 Edited by: Ghanimah on 30/10/2004 10:08:09 sj*, you are so good to only see what YOU think. Besides who is talking about 'innocent miners', YOU are the that kills everyone in your way, even former corp mates (as you ever heard of those words) who have never done something wrong, in the contrary who always were loyal. And attracting people like AANGA and JumpN John to stab us in the back, omfg do you really believe your ow bullst that is coming out of your mouth? Nand you like to hear that we were planning to declare war on DBD because of some backstabber huh, well we didn't, on teh contrary it's you who has declared war for crying out loud ! You want me dead and I don't even know why, there is no real reason besides your messed up head man. And speaking about the 20th falling apart? It has never been so close as it is at this very right moment. Get a life, you little child. That's all I think about you.
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:04:00 - [17] PA internal fighting giggles I wouldn't worry 20th dont do much, they sit in v-7 logged off taking the station back now and then.
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:04:00 - [18] PA internal fighting giggles I wouldn't worry 20th dont do much, they sit in v-7 logged off taking the station back now and then.
Yolan	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:05:00 - [19] Originally by: sj*** Edited by: sj** on 30/10/2004 09:56:02* well yolan thank you for backing up what i have posted you have just admitted that your corp was going to gank the dead by dawn pilots for having ex 20th members and me in it and as for hiding i dont think so bud. i was not hiding when i killed arm,s and chong two nights ago i was not hiding when i made oceana log off i was not hiding when i camped your station and nearly killed a megathon in the system called claranum last night all on my own aginst 5 members of the 20th i was not hiding when a 12 year old boy who is a brave member of my new corp killed oceana in his crow with just a kesstrel. and dont it just speak volums about the state of the 20th when some of its pilots and ex directors have come to the stage of joining me and fighting against there old corp mates.and it speaks volums at the leader of the p.a,s lack of control over his own corp let alone that of the p.a.who deserve better than what is going on right now. flame on lol, ok sj i see the wall of dillusion is holding fast once again. lets see how uber you are when you start fighting the real pvp'rs. Let the death begin
Yolan	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:05:00 - [20] Originally by: sj*** Edited by: sj** on 30/10/2004 09:56:02* well yolan thank you for backing up what i have posted you have just admitted that your corp was going to gank the dead by dawn pilots for having ex 20th members and me in it and as for hiding i dont think so bud. i was not hiding when i killed arm,s and chong two nights ago i was not hiding when i made oceana log off i was not hiding when i camped your station and nearly killed a megathon in the system called claranum last night all on my own aginst 5 members of the 20th i was not hiding when a 12 year old boy who is a brave member of my new corp killed oceana in his crow with just a kesstrel. and dont it just speak volums about the state of the 20th when some of its pilots and ex directors have come to the stage of joining me and fighting against there old corp mates.and it speaks volums at the leader of the p.a,s lack of control over his own corp let alone that of the p.a.who deserve better than what is going on right now. flame on lol, ok sj i see the wall of dillusion is holding fast once again. lets see how uber you are when you start fighting the real pvp'rs. Let the death begin
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:06:00 - [21] ok its so close that only 5 members are loged on last night out of how many ? and yes i will get to you soon if you ever log on this is my last reply
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:06:00 - [22] ok its so close that only 5 members are loged on last night out of how many ? and yes i will get to you soon if you ever log on this is my last reply
Yolan	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:10:00 - [23] Ive been on for last 8 hours if your too n00b to use your address book thats your problem.
Yolan	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:10:00 - [24] Ive been on for last 8 hours if your too n00b to use your address book thats your problem.
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:17:00 - [25] that last post by me yolan was directed at ghanimah so now who is suffering from self importance.
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:17:00 - [26] that last post by me yolan was directed at ghanimah so now who is suffering from self importance.
Ghanimah	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:21:00 - [27] Edited by: Ghanimah on 30/10/2004 10:27:19 since when is being online the same as 'getting along' lol still gave no reason btw
Ghanimah	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:21:00 - [28] Edited by: Ghanimah on 30/10/2004 10:27:19 since when is being online the same as 'getting along' lol still gave no reason btw
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:41:00 - [29] Cochise is nothing but a good leader and an inspiration, hardly a tyrannical bloke. Disappointed to see you need to bring an internal dispute to the boards. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:41:00 - [30] Cochise is nothing but a good leader and an inspiration, hardly a tyrannical bloke. Disappointed to see you need to bring an internal dispute to the boards. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:48:00 - [31] Edited by: sj** on 30/10/2004 10:51:24* so why is his corp at war with the old members of the 20th then ? and with respect you dont know the half of what has been going on in the 20th in the last few weeks. and it is no longer internal as we have broken away from the 20th. and my need to bring this out in the open is becase of the chiefs lack of will to talk to me about it in the first place.
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:48:00 - [32] Edited by: sj** on 30/10/2004 10:51:24* so why is his corp at war with the old members of the 20th then ? and with respect you dont know the half of what has been going on in the 20th in the last few weeks. and it is no longer internal as we have broken away from the 20th. and my need to bring this out in the open is becase of the chiefs lack of will to talk to me about it in the first place.
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:51:00 - [33] Running-kia have no place in this thread, you sold our your friends and AVOIDED fighting us at all costs. Go mine some ark.
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 10:51:00 - [34] Running-kia have no place in this thread, you sold our your friends and AVOIDED fighting us at all costs. Go mine some ark.
Zensunni DX	Posted - 2004.10.30 11:10:00 - [35] I'm not part of the 20th any longer, having left a while ago to go renegade on some ore thieves, but I'm really shocked at you washing your dirty linen in public. Sj, you are absolutely shameless and have no honour. Whatever happened between you and the TPA or PA, it should be kept to ourselves and among those involved, not brought onto the forum boards like an attention *****. And those guys from the other corps, VERY nice, coming in to smack talk on a totally internal matter, you've just showed us how mature you are I'm not particularly good at PvP yet, I know, but let it be known I am standing by the 20th and will be declaring on your corp with some old friends from EnB in this fight as well. You were never a particularly nice person and your actions in this regard has shown you to be nothing but a childish, petty, attention seeking gamer. If you had any honor yourself, you would have kept this fight and quarrel between yourself and the 20th, not bring it to the forum boards in the hope of attracting more attention. You are shameless. See you on the battlefield ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are
Zensunni DX	Posted - 2004.10.30 11:10:00 - [36] I'm not part of the 20th any longer, having left a while ago to go renegade on some ore thieves, but I'm really shocked at you washing your dirty linen in public. Sj, you are absolutely shameless and have no honour. Whatever happened between you and the TPA or PA, it should be kept to ourselves and among those involved, not brought onto the forum boards like an attention *****. And those guys from the other corps, VERY nice, coming in to smack talk on a totally internal matter, you've just showed us how mature you are I'm not particularly good at PvP yet, I know, but let it be known I am standing by the 20th and will be declaring on your corp with some old friends from EnB in this fight as well. You were never a particularly nice person and your actions in this regard has shown you to be nothing but a childish, petty, attention seeking gamer. If you had any honor yourself, you would have kept this fight and quarrel between yourself and the 20th, not bring it to the forum boards in the hope of attracting more attention. You are shameless. See you on the battlefield ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are
Zensunni DX	Posted - 2004.10.30 11:16:00 - [37] Originally by: sutty Running-kia have no place in this thread, you sold our your friends and AVOIDED fighting us at all costs. Go mine some ark. And you have a right to be here? How are you affilated with the PA or the 20th? Oh right, i forgot you guys just jump on the chance to smack talk in any way at every serendipitous opportunity that presents itself.... Sorry you do have a right to be here after all, do have fun ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are
Zensunni DX	Posted - 2004.10.30 11:16:00 - [38] Originally by: sutty Running-kia have no place in this thread, you sold our your friends and AVOIDED fighting us at all costs. Go mine some ark. And you have a right to be here? How are you affilated with the PA or the 20th? Oh right, i forgot you guys just jump on the chance to smack talk in any way at every serendipitous opportunity that presents itself.... Sorry you do have a right to be here after all, do have fun ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are
KIAPieman	Posted - 2004.10.30 11:18:00 - [39] Originally by: sutty Running-kia have no place in this thread, you sold our your friends and AVOIDED fighting us at all costs. Go mine some ark. sutty, pull your head out of your backside and actually notice what was going on, dont post like its a fact whan you wouldt know what truth was even if it jumped up and bit you. --------------------------------------------------------
KIAPieman	Posted - 2004.10.30 11:18:00 - [40] Originally by: sutty Running-kia have no place in this thread, you sold our your friends and AVOIDED fighting us at all costs. Go mine some ark. sutty, pull your head out of your backside and actually notice what was going on, dont post like its a fact whan you wouldt know what truth was even if it jumped up and bit you. --------------------------------------------------------
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 11:31:00 - [41] Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 11:34:59 what was the truth then, your statement held no water but no sutty your wrong im right. You left PA while in the middle of a war. FACT You sold your friends and allies out. FACT You avoided every chance to fight in this war FACT. What happened to the promise of your brining it after them other alliances ended the war with you. ?? Where was the might rona kia oh thats right you was moving your stuff from venal to curse. Your corp is a joke grow some man beef or shut up.
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 11:31:00 - [42] Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 11:34:59 what was the truth then, your statement held no water but no sutty your wrong im right. You left PA while in the middle of a war. FACT You sold your friends and allies out. FACT You avoided every chance to fight in this war FACT. What happened to the promise of your brining it after them other alliances ended the war with you. ?? Where was the might rona kia oh thats right you was moving your stuff from venal to curse. Your corp is a joke grow some man beef or shut up.
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 12:02:00 - [43] Edited by: sj** on 30/10/2004 12:12:53* in reply to zensunni dx its not a case of washing my or the 20th dirty laundry in public as you put it its a case of the facts coming out and bitting the 20th in the ass and them not wanting the world of eve to know. that there corp is at war with former members of its corp or that it has sent clear demands to a non combatant corp in empire space to tow the line or be at war with them. up untill that point i had kept my mouth shut but no more i will not stand by and let that sort of thing go by without saying somthing about it. those members of dead by dawn were extreemly concernd to hear that sort of stuff coming in there direction from the 20th who are the corp of the leader of the p.a. and if this upsets you it is becase you and the 20th dont like the truth being put out in public and the truth is that the leader of the p.a is misuseing his position and now the world of eve can see. thats what you dont like.
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.30 12:02:00 - [44] Edited by: sj** on 30/10/2004 12:12:53* in reply to zensunni dx its not a case of washing my or the 20th dirty laundry in public as you put it its a case of the facts coming out and bitting the 20th in the ass and them not wanting the world of eve to know. that there corp is at war with former members of its corp or that it has sent clear demands to a non combatant corp in empire space to tow the line or be at war with them. up untill that point i had kept my mouth shut but no more i will not stand by and let that sort of thing go by without saying somthing about it. those members of dead by dawn were extreemly concernd to hear that sort of stuff coming in there direction from the 20th who are the corp of the leader of the p.a. and if this upsets you it is becase you and the 20th dont like the truth being put out in public and the truth is that the leader of the p.a is misuseing his position and now the world of eve can see. thats what you dont like.
Jim Steele	Posted - 2004.10.30 12:45:00 - [45] Edited by: Jim Steele on 30/10/2004 12:54:54 Originally by: Mica'lov Funny how the founder of dead by dawn is also a member of your legion corp.......no connection ay??. hmm you talking about me? yeah thats true i joined legion as i was bored mining and jummped at the chance to get some PvP action but didnt want to drag my ex-corp members through sj's war. Like sj said DBD is a mining corp and the majority of members didnt want a war so reluctantly asked sj to leave. I however dont like being intimidated by some guy up his own ass thus expect to see me in combat Death to the Galante
Jim Steele	Posted - 2004.10.30 12:45:00 - [46] Edited by: Jim Steele on 30/10/2004 12:54:54 Originally by: Mica'lov Funny how the founder of dead by dawn is also a member of your legion corp.......no connection ay??. hmm you talking about me? yeah thats true i joined legion as i was bored mining and jummped at the chance to get some PvP action but didnt want to drag my ex-corp members through sj's war. Like sj said DBD is a mining corp and the majority of members didnt want a war so reluctantly asked sj to leave. I however dont like being intimidated by some guy up his own ass thus expect to see me in combat Death to the Galante
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.10.30 13:42:00 - [47] roflcopters Nowt like a bit of scandal to cheer the boards up :) Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.10.30 13:42:00 - [48] roflcopters Nowt like a bit of scandal to cheer the boards up :) Eve Blacklight Style
Amthrianius	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:01:00 - [49] PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" ---------------
Amthrianius	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:01:00 - [50] PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" ---------------
Lan2	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:14:00 - [51] Originally by: sj*** he would send the might of the p.a Just thought I saw something funny.
Lan2	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:14:00 - [52] Originally by: sj*** he would send the might of the p.a Just thought I saw something funny.
LLeBRing	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:32:00 - [53] Originally by: Amthrianius PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" and all of EVE would likely agree that ATUK PvP skills are well.... needing large improvement this thread is now way off topic Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella
LLeBRing	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:32:00 - [54] Originally by: Amthrianius PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" and all of EVE would likely agree that ATUK PvP skills are well.... needing large improvement this thread is now way off topic Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:48:00 - [55] its about the PA its kinda on topic
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:48:00 - [56] its about the PA its kinda on topic
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:53:00 - [57] Quote: he would send the might of the p.a to kill LMFAO, you got nowt to worry about there Sj.
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.10.30 14:53:00 - [58] Quote: he would send the might of the p.a to kill LMFAO, you got nowt to worry about there Sj.
Mica'lov	Posted - 2004.10.30 15:49:00 - [59] Originally by: LLeBRing Originally by: Amthrianius PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" and all of EVE would likely agree that ATUK PvP skills are well.... needing large improvement this thread is now way off topic Llbring your no longer PA so pls dont bring up mis information.... there dual WCS ceptors pwnz Least they arnt much smack talkers as alot out there thought TBH (from personal exsperience) Alt of juduzz
Mica'lov	Posted - 2004.10.30 15:49:00 - [60] Originally by: LLeBRing Originally by: Amthrianius PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" and all of EVE would likely agree that ATUK PvP skills are well.... needing large improvement this thread is now way off topic Llbring your no longer PA so pls dont bring up mis information.... there dual WCS ceptors pwnz Least they arnt much smack talkers as alot out there thought TBH (from personal exsperience) Alt of juduzz
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.10.30 16:03:00 - [61] Originally by: Mica'lov Originally by: LLeBRing Originally by: Amthrianius PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" and all of EVE would likely agree that ATUK PvP skills are well.... needing large improvement this thread is now way off topic Llbring your no longer PA so pls dont bring up mis information.... there dual WCS ceptors pwnz Least they arnt much smack talkers as alot out there thought TBH (from personal exsperience) Pot, kettle, black. The amount of pa frigs we've downed with dual wcs' is ridiculous so kindly stfu
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.10.30 16:03:00 - [62] Originally by: Mica'lov Originally by: LLeBRing Originally by: Amthrianius PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" and all of EVE would likely agree that ATUK PvP skills are well.... needing large improvement this thread is now way off topic Llbring your no longer PA so pls dont bring up mis information.... there dual WCS ceptors pwnz Least they arnt much smack talkers as alot out there thought TBH (from personal exsperience) Pot, kettle, black. The amount of pa frigs we've downed with dual wcs' is ridiculous so kindly stfu
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.10.30 16:04:00 - [63] Originally by: Mica'lov Llbring your no longer PA so pls dont bring up mis information.... there dual WCS ceptors pwnz You've no idea how ironically funny that is given what we've been pulling out of loot cans left by PA frigates this week Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.10.30 16:04:00 - [64] Originally by: Mica'lov Llbring your no longer PA so pls dont bring up mis information.... there dual WCS ceptors pwnz You've no idea how ironically funny that is given what we've been pulling out of loot cans left by PA frigates this week Eve Blacklight Style
ElCoCo	Posted - 2004.10.30 18:33:00 - [65] You're trully sad and stubborn. See you ingame.
ElCoCo	Posted - 2004.10.30 18:33:00 - [66] You're trully sad and stubborn. See you ingame.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.10.30 19:14:00 - [67] Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 11:34:59 what was the truth then, your statement held no water but no sutty your wrong im right. You left PA while in the middle of a war. FACT You sold your friends and allies out. FACT You avoided every chance to fight in this war FACT. What happened to the promise of your brining it after them other alliances ended the war with you. ?? Where was the might rona kia oh thats right you was moving your stuff from venal to curse. Your corp is a joke grow some man beef or shut up. Umm Sutty your Spys need to be shot BTH because what they failed to tell you was that we R-K were going to leave the PA before the war started. The war then started before we could leave. So we stayed to fight the PA against the NCA. The Pa knew that at some point we would be leaving. We kept our word on the war and then continuded to fight you for 1.5 months. so yes we left the PA in the middle of the war but it was 4 months after we originally planned We sold our friends out. not true they knew we planned on leaving anyway. You avoided every chance to fight. Umm are you serious you dont secure over 400 battleship kills by avioding to fight. How aobut you ask the guys we killed day after day if we avioded it lol Your corperation is a bunch of arrogant tossers but do we care not really. Get a life and stop thinking it makes you cool and hard to tell a group of people to "grow some man beef" because that really makes you look like a sad lonely little kid
Artegg	Posted - 2004.10.30 19:14:00 - [68] Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 11:34:59 what was the truth then, your statement held no water but no sutty your wrong im right. You left PA while in the middle of a war. FACT You sold your friends and allies out. FACT You avoided every chance to fight in this war FACT. What happened to the promise of your brining it after them other alliances ended the war with you. ?? Where was the might rona kia oh thats right you was moving your stuff from venal to curse. Your corp is a joke grow some man beef or shut up. Umm Sutty your Spys need to be shot BTH because what they failed to tell you was that we R-K were going to leave the PA before the war started. The war then started before we could leave. So we stayed to fight the PA against the NCA. The Pa knew that at some point we would be leaving. We kept our word on the war and then continuded to fight you for 1.5 months. so yes we left the PA in the middle of the war but it was 4 months after we originally planned We sold our friends out. not true they knew we planned on leaving anyway. You avoided every chance to fight. Umm are you serious you dont secure over 400 battleship kills by avioding to fight. How aobut you ask the guys we killed day after day if we avioded it lol Your corperation is a bunch of arrogant tossers but do we care not really. Get a life and stop thinking it makes you cool and hard to tell a group of people to "grow some man beef" because that really makes you look like a sad lonely little kid
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 19:36:00 - [69] Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 20:00:40 You secured 400 evolution /bob battleship kills. No I thought not. ""grow some man beef" because that really makes you look like a sad lonely little kid" pot ketle black.
sutty	Posted - 2004.10.30 19:36:00 - [70] Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 20:00:40 You secured 400 evolution /bob battleship kills. No I thought not. ""grow some man beef" because that really makes you look like a sad lonely little kid" pot ketle black.
Presidio	Posted - 2004.10.30 19:56:00 - [71] Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 19:40:41 You secured 400 evolution / bob kills. No I thought not. We did ! - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Presidio	Posted - 2004.10.30 19:56:00 - [72] Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 19:40:41 You secured 400 evolution / bob kills. No I thought not. We did ! - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Dakkon	Posted - 2004.10.30 20:02:00 - [73] /grabs some of the drugs Presidio is smoking cause they must be good
Dakkon	Posted - 2004.10.30 20:02:00 - [74] /grabs some of the drugs Presidio is smoking cause they must be good
TWD	Posted - 2004.10.30 20:03:00 - [75] Edited by: TWD on 30/10/2004 20:06:00 Originally by: Presidio Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 19:40:41 You secured 400 evolution / bob kills. No I thought not. We did ! 400 kills -- could be possible. we have ~2500 kills on PA on our killboard.
TWD	Posted - 2004.10.30 20:03:00 - [76] Edited by: TWD on 30/10/2004 20:06:00 Originally by: Presidio Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 19:40:41 You secured 400 evolution / bob kills. No I thought not. We did ! 400 kills -- could be possible. we have ~2500 kills on PA on our killboard.
Presidio	Posted - 2004.10.30 20:17:00 - [77] It is not bragging, but feel free to flame. I think we have participated in killing more Evolution ships than any other corp in EVE. We have also lost more ships to Evol than to any other corp in EVE. Alltogether we probably spent 7+ months fighting Evolution? You have to consider that this is counting all the kills since both corps existed. Even the fight we had before FA was first formed. And than the 1st Evol-PA war + 2nd Great Northern war. /Sorry for getting off topic here. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Presidio	Posted - 2004.10.30 20:17:00 - [78] It is not bragging, but feel free to flame. I think we have participated in killing more Evolution ships than any other corp in EVE. We have also lost more ships to Evol than to any other corp in EVE. Alltogether we probably spent 7+ months fighting Evolution? You have to consider that this is counting all the kills since both corps existed. Even the fight we had before FA was first formed. And than the 1st Evol-PA war + 2nd Great Northern war. /Sorry for getting off topic here. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Halseth Durn	Posted - 2004.10.30 20:29:00 - [79] Edited by: Halseth Durn on 30/10/2004 20:31:59 Well, sj*, you finally did it! Congratulations. I personally didn't think you had enough balls to ever bring your world-class complaining out here in public. And an attempt to vilify Cochise to boot! Wow, did you buy a bowflex or something?!? Nothing burns bridges brighter and hotter than a * session here in the nursery. Cochise is one hell of a stand-up guy who doesn't take any ** and takes responsibility for all of his decisions. I am surprised you would chuck all you helped him build to post something like this which basicly accomplishes nothing. My thoery is that when Cochise took over more PA duties, he couldnt hold your hand as much any more and instead of picking up the slack internally in 20th, you decided to pout it out. Cochise then makes a promotion to pick up some of that slack, you disagree with his choice (or are jealous) and decide its time to sell your corp and take as many people as poss with you. If my theory is correct, I would like to be the first to say "how noble!". If not, then my sincere appologies. And seriously dude, the PA is never going to give your new nobody corp a second thought. You left and quite frankly, most are relieved to have 1 less negative whiner out of the fold. Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS
Halseth Durn	Posted - 2004.10.30 20:29:00 - [80] Edited by: Halseth Durn on 30/10/2004 20:31:59 Well, sj*, you finally did it! Congratulations. I personally didn't think you had enough balls to ever bring your world-class complaining out here in public. And an attempt to vilify Cochise to boot! Wow, did you buy a bowflex or something?!? Nothing burns bridges brighter and hotter than a * session here in the nursery. Cochise is one hell of a stand-up guy who doesn't take any ** and takes responsibility for all of his decisions. I am surprised you would chuck all you helped him build to post something like this which basicly accomplishes nothing. My thoery is that when Cochise took over more PA duties, he couldnt hold your hand as much any more and instead of picking up the slack internally in 20th, you decided to pout it out. Cochise then makes a promotion to pick up some of that slack, you disagree with his choice (or are jealous) and decide its time to sell your corp and take as many people as poss with you. If my theory is correct, I would like to be the first to say "how noble!". If not, then my sincere appologies. And seriously dude, the PA is never going to give your new nobody corp a second thought. You left and quite frankly, most are relieved to have 1 less negative whiner out of the fold. Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.10.30 21:03:00 - [81] Edited by: Reiisha on 30/10/2004 21:05:28 Originally by: Presidio It is not bragging, but feel free to flame. I think we have participated in killing more Evolution ships than any other corp in EVE. We have also lost more ships to Evol than to any other corp in EVE. Alltogether we probably spent 7+ months fighting Evolution? You just answered that yourself. Yay. Evol has never been in 1 place for this long. Originally by: Presidio You have to consider that this is counting all the kills since both corps existed. Even the fight we had before FA was first formed. And than the 1st Evol-PA war + 2nd Great Northern war. /Sorry for getting off topic here. How do you know how much killing was going on before this war? I don't recall a lot of killboards before castor...... Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.10.30 21:03:00 - [82] Edited by: Reiisha on 30/10/2004 21:05:28 Originally by: Presidio It is not bragging, but feel free to flame. I think we have participated in killing more Evolution ships than any other corp in EVE. We have also lost more ships to Evol than to any other corp in EVE. Alltogether we probably spent 7+ months fighting Evolution? You just answered that yourself. Yay. Evol has never been in 1 place for this long. Originally by: Presidio You have to consider that this is counting all the kills since both corps existed. Even the fight we had before FA was first formed. And than the 1st Evol-PA war + 2nd Great Northern war. /Sorry for getting off topic here. How do you know how much killing was going on before this war? I don't recall a lot of killboards before castor...... Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Presidio	Posted - 2004.10.30 21:13:00 - [83] Edited by: Presidio on 30/10/2004 21:16:44 Originally by: Reiisha How do you know how much killing was going on before this war? I don't recall a lot of killboards before castor...... Only judging from my personal experiance. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Presidio	Posted - 2004.10.30 21:13:00 - [84] Edited by: Presidio on 30/10/2004 21:16:44 Originally by: Reiisha How do you know how much killing was going on before this war? I don't recall a lot of killboards before castor...... Only judging from my personal experiance. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
pershphanie	Posted - 2004.10.30 21:32:00 - [85] Originally by: Halseth Durn Edited by: Halseth Durn on 30/10/2004 20:31:59 My thoery is that when Cochise took over more PA duties, he couldnt hold your hand as much any more and instead of picking up the slack internally in 20th, you decided to pout it out. My theory is a few noobs didn't like it when Cochise told everyone they'd have to help fight. shrugs good ridence. Personally I'm glad Cochise helped us weed out some of the rif-raf. He's doing a great job IMO. I'm really happy with the group of people we have up here now. No more complaining or dead weight to deal with. http://www.blixts.net/sunbeam/host/firekiller_sig1.jpg
pershphanie	Posted - 2004.10.30 21:32:00 - [86] Originally by: Halseth Durn Edited by: Halseth Durn on 30/10/2004 20:31:59 My thoery is that when Cochise took over more PA duties, he couldnt hold your hand as much any more and instead of picking up the slack internally in 20th, you decided to pout it out. My theory is a few noobs didn't like it when Cochise told everyone they'd have to help fight. shrugs good ridence. Personally I'm glad Cochise helped us weed out some of the rif-raf. He's doing a great job IMO. I'm really happy with the group of people we have up here now. No more complaining or dead weight to deal with. http://www.blixts.net/sunbeam/host/firekiller_sig1.jpg
Jim Steele	Posted - 2004.10.31 12:15:00 - [87] Originally by: Mica'lov Funny how the founder of dead by dawn is also a member of your legion corp.......no connection ay??. Originally by: jim steele hmm you talking about me? yeah thats true i joined legion as i was bored mining and jummped at the chance to get some PvP action but didnt want to drag my ex-corp members through sj's war. I have now decided to leave the fight and rejoin DBD, cut a long story short i felt the war wasnt realy mine to get involved with Im sure sj has his reasons but having not met any of the 20th i dont understand the whole situation so was wrong to get involved so I felt leaving befor actually killing any of the 20th was the right thing to do. Good luck to the 20th and Legions, i hope they have a good fight and reconsile the differences they have. Death to the Galante
Jim Steele	Posted - 2004.10.31 12:15:00 - [88] Originally by: Mica'lov Funny how the founder of dead by dawn is also a member of your legion corp.......no connection ay??. Originally by: jim steele hmm you talking about me? yeah thats true i joined legion as i was bored mining and jummped at the chance to get some PvP action but didnt want to drag my ex-corp members through sj's war. I have now decided to leave the fight and rejoin DBD, cut a long story short i felt the war wasnt realy mine to get involved with Im sure sj has his reasons but having not met any of the 20th i dont understand the whole situation so was wrong to get involved so I felt leaving befor actually killing any of the 20th was the right thing to do. Good luck to the 20th and Legions, i hope they have a good fight and reconsile the differences they have. Death to the Galante
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2004.10.31 12:32:00 - [89] Originally by: sutty Running-kia have no place in this thread, you sold our your friends and AVOIDED fighting us at all costs. Go mine some ark. Hey sutty are you also stuck at work on a weekend, since we are crossposting all the time today. Damn i need some freetime and some PvP So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar. **Minion Of VOTF**
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2004.10.31 12:32:00 - [90] Originally by: sutty Running-kia have no place in this thread, you sold our your friends and AVOIDED fighting us at all costs. Go mine some ark. Hey sutty are you also stuck at work on a weekend, since we are crossposting all the time today. Damn i need some freetime and some PvP So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar. **Minion Of VOTF**
Auman	Posted - 2004.10.31 14:22:00 - [91] I don't know what was going on internally in 20th but I do know that Cochise is a top bloke and has my respect. Power hungry? Never saw it myself, all I saw was leadership when the PA needed it the most.
Auman	Posted - 2004.10.31 14:22:00 - [92] I don't know what was going on internally in 20th but I do know that Cochise is a top bloke and has my respect. Power hungry? Never saw it myself, all I saw was leadership when the PA needed it the most.
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.10.31 16:07:00 - [93] Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 11:34:59 what was the truth then, your statement held no water but no sutty your wrong im right. You left PA while in the middle of a war. FACT You sold your friends and allies out. FACT You avoided every chance to fight in this war FACT. What happened to the promise of your brining it after them other alliances ended the war with you. ?? Where was the might rona kia oh thats right you was moving your stuff from venal to curse. Your corp is a joke grow some man beef or shut up. lol.. BOB, the alliance for people that were bullied at school. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.10.31 16:07:00 - [94] Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 11:34:59 what was the truth then, your statement held no water but no sutty your wrong im right. You left PA while in the middle of a war. FACT You sold your friends and allies out. FACT You avoided every chance to fight in this war FACT. What happened to the promise of your brining it after them other alliances ended the war with you. ?? Where was the might rona kia oh thats right you was moving your stuff from venal to curse. Your corp is a joke grow some man beef or shut up. lol.. BOB, the alliance for people that were bullied at school. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
Artegg	Posted - 2004.10.31 16:25:00 - [95] Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 20:00:40 You secured 400 evolution /bob battleship kills. No I thought not. ""grow some man beef" because that really makes you look like a sad lonely little kid" pot ketle black. Ok Sutty time for a little lesson 1) I never said we killed 400 battleships 2) Bob where not the only entity in the War 3) According to your kill boards We killed 97 Bob ships We lost 111 We Killed 38 of your battleships We lost 18 battleships Now considering you guys like to post your kills more than your losses i would say that swings it even futher in our favour. So now the maths lesson 1 in every 2.55 of our ship kills where battleship 1 in every 6.1 of our losses was a battleship You sit there and say our corp is a joke, lol you ***** me up if we are a joke you are nothing not even worth considering i hate to break it to you but you are not as good as you think you are the numbers speak it all. Have a good day and think before you post
Artegg	Posted - 2004.10.31 16:25:00 - [96] Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 20:00:40 You secured 400 evolution /bob battleship kills. No I thought not. ""grow some man beef" because that really makes you look like a sad lonely little kid" pot ketle black. Ok Sutty time for a little lesson 1) I never said we killed 400 battleships 2) Bob where not the only entity in the War 3) According to your kill boards We killed 97 Bob ships We lost 111 We Killed 38 of your battleships We lost 18 battleships Now considering you guys like to post your kills more than your losses i would say that swings it even futher in our favour. So now the maths lesson 1 in every 2.55 of our ship kills where battleship 1 in every 6.1 of our losses was a battleship You sit there and say our corp is a joke, lol you ***** me up if we are a joke you are nothing not even worth considering i hate to break it to you but you are not as good as you think you are the numbers speak it all. Have a good day and think before you post
AngelThunder	Posted - 2004.10.31 18:33:00 - [97] As the founder of 20th Legion I can honestly say Cochise has taken the corp to a level I couldn't have. He'd doing a damn good job. Yea, we had some internal troubles. So what?! Any corp in EVE is going to go through troubles. Sheesh. And sj, damn man. If you'd drop the "I'm holier than thou, l00k @ mY l33t skilz!1!11" act and realize not everyone wants to play the same game you do, you might not lose the friends you once had. So take it from someone that still has some respect for you, GET A GRIP!
AngelThunder	Posted - 2004.10.31 18:33:00 - [98] As the founder of 20th Legion I can honestly say Cochise has taken the corp to a level I couldn't have. He'd doing a damn good job. Yea, we had some internal troubles. So what?! Any corp in EVE is going to go through troubles. Sheesh. And sj, damn man. If you'd drop the "I'm holier than thou, l00k @ mY l33t skilz!1!11" act and realize not everyone wants to play the same game you do, you might not lose the friends you once had. So take it from someone that still has some respect for you, GET A GRIP!
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.10.31 18:55:00 - [99] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 20:00:40 You secured 400 evolution /bob battleship kills. No I thought not. ""grow some man beef" because that really makes you look like a sad lonely little kid" pot ketle black. Ok Sutty time for a little lesson 1) I never said we killed 400 battleships 2) Bob where not the only entity in the War 3) According to your kill boards We killed 97 Bob ships We lost 111 We Killed 38 of your battleships We lost 18 battleships Now considering you guys like to post your kills more than your losses i would say that swings it even futher in our favour. So now the maths lesson 1 in every 2.55 of our ship kills where battleship 1 in every 6.1 of our losses was a battleship You sit there and say our corp is a joke, lol you ***** me up if we are a joke you are nothing not even worth considering i hate to break it to you but you are not as good as you think you are the numbers speak it all. Have a good day and think before you post Just a FYI, that killboard registers kills participated in. It doesnt mean R-K killed X amount of battleships on their own. It does say R-K lost X amount of battleships tho. So dont try to use it as a tool to show how big your corps peen isnt.
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.10.31 18:55:00 - [100] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 30/10/2004 20:00:40 You secured 400 evolution /bob battleship kills. No I thought not. ""grow some man beef" because that really makes you look like a sad lonely little kid" pot ketle black. Ok Sutty time for a little lesson 1) I never said we killed 400 battleships 2) Bob where not the only entity in the War 3) According to your kill boards We killed 97 Bob ships We lost 111 We Killed 38 of your battleships We lost 18 battleships Now considering you guys like to post your kills more than your losses i would say that swings it even futher in our favour. So now the maths lesson 1 in every 2.55 of our ship kills where battleship 1 in every 6.1 of our losses was a battleship You sit there and say our corp is a joke, lol you ***** me up if we are a joke you are nothing not even worth considering i hate to break it to you but you are not as good as you think you are the numbers speak it all. Have a good day and think before you post Just a FYI, that killboard registers kills participated in. It doesnt mean R-K killed X amount of battleships on their own. It does say R-K lost X amount of battleships tho. So dont try to use it as a tool to show how big your corps peen isnt.
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.31 21:53:00 - [101] hay angelthunder i dont know what your problem is but if you want to do some mouthing off you have to put the time in to the corp and you ant done that bud your the bigest no show the 20th ever had. and do the good folks who visit your blue monster web site know that you are lifting info of to trace there chars for the p.a,s intelegence i.e systems and stations last docked at. bet they will not be going on your site now. so be warnd all you evolution pilots he can trace you. and i wonder is that legal and do you think sombody should know you are taking liberties with outher players trust.so be warnd all you non p.a players dont go to the blue monster site you will be traced.and by the way angelthunder i had stoped fighting your corp this morning but it looks like you dont want me to.
sjgay	Posted - 2004.10.31 21:53:00 - [102] hay angelthunder i dont know what your problem is but if you want to do some mouthing off you have to put the time in to the corp and you ant done that bud your the bigest no show the 20th ever had. and do the good folks who visit your blue monster web site know that you are lifting info of to trace there chars for the p.a,s intelegence i.e systems and stations last docked at. bet they will not be going on your site now. so be warnd all you evolution pilots he can trace you. and i wonder is that legal and do you think sombody should know you are taking liberties with outher players trust.so be warnd all you non p.a players dont go to the blue monster site you will be traced.and by the way angelthunder i had stoped fighting your corp this morning but it looks like you dont want me to.
dimensionZ	Posted - 2004.11.01 01:22:00 - [103] I like when PA use our own tool to make their stats, i really like it :)
dimensionZ	Posted - 2004.11.01 01:22:00 - [104] I like when PA use our own tool to make their stats, i really like it :)
JumpN John	Posted - 2004.11.01 06:38:00 - [105] i joined sj in the fight against the 20th and although i may have been mistakened to take arms against my former corpmates, i can say that sj is a great leader and had focus. he had a goal and accomplished it. i wish the pa, 20th and SJ the best of all this world and eve have to offer. my appologies to my bothers that i fired upon. i was under orders and i know you can appreciate that. when i felt that i could no longer follow that direction i left. may your God bless you all. JJ (JumpN John)
JumpN John	Posted - 2004.11.01 06:38:00 - [106] i joined sj in the fight against the 20th and although i may have been mistakened to take arms against my former corpmates, i can say that sj is a great leader and had focus. he had a goal and accomplished it. i wish the pa, 20th and SJ the best of all this world and eve have to offer. my appologies to my bothers that i fired upon. i was under orders and i know you can appreciate that. when i felt that i could no longer follow that direction i left. may your God bless you all. JJ (JumpN John)
Artegg	Posted - 2004.11.01 08:51:00 - [107] Originally by: dimensionZ I like when PA use our own tool to make their stats, i really like it :) I would have used the PA's but as we are not part of it we have been removed so dont pat yourself on the back to much
Artegg	Posted - 2004.11.01 08:51:00 - [108] Originally by: dimensionZ I like when PA use our own tool to make their stats, i really like it :) I would have used the PA's but as we are not part of it we have been removed so dont pat yourself on the back to much
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.11.01 09:10:00 - [109] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: dimensionZ I like when PA use our own tool to make their stats, i really like it :) I would have used the PA's but as we are not part of it we have been removed so dont pat yourself on the back to much What difference does that make, Im not part of the PA but I can still look at the PA killboard and gather stats from it. So yes dime will pat himself on the back, also shows which one is more accurate, if your using ours for factual stats.
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.11.01 09:10:00 - [110] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: dimensionZ I like when PA use our own tool to make their stats, i really like it :) I would have used the PA's but as we are not part of it we have been removed so dont pat yourself on the back to much What difference does that make, Im not part of the PA but I can still look at the PA killboard and gather stats from it. So yes dime will pat himself on the back, also shows which one is more accurate, if your using ours for factual stats.
Estios	Posted - 2004.11.01 09:39:00 - [111] Edited by: Estios on 01/11/2004 09:45:09 Originally by: LLeBRing Originally by: Amthrianius PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" and all of EVE would likely agree that ATUK PvP skills are well.... needing large improvement this thread is now way off topic ROFL, that rather rich coming from you isnt it ? Arent you in that alliance that we have killed about 20 battleships from in just a couple of evenings excursions and lost 0 ? Im pretty sure you was there the other night when I alone was destroying your ships right under the nose of numerous battleships and then giving me props in local. Saying stuff on the boards whilst getting schooled in game isnt big or clever ... So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
Estios	Posted - 2004.11.01 09:39:00 - [112] Edited by: Estios on 01/11/2004 09:45:09 Originally by: LLeBRing Originally by: Amthrianius PA are a joke they had what 15 people on their TS last night of which most were in the "Empire/PA Mining Channel" and all of EVE would likely agree that ATUK PvP skills are well.... needing large improvement this thread is now way off topic ROFL, that rather rich coming from you isnt it ? Arent you in that alliance that we have killed about 20 battleships from in just a couple of evenings excursions and lost 0 ? Im pretty sure you was there the other night when I alone was destroying your ships right under the nose of numerous battleships and then giving me props in local. Saying stuff on the boards whilst getting schooled in game isnt big or clever ... So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
Masken	Posted - 2004.11.01 12:10:00 - [113] Originally by: sj*** well angelthunder that is the lowest of the low to wish me dead in real life and crash my cessna 172sp and kill all my family and freinds in real life. well that is taking this to far you have no shame wishing death on folks in real life. well i gess that gose to show what kind of person you realy are,and what kind of leaders are incharge of the 20th legion. shame on you. well there you have it folks the true face of the 20th legion. Hey retard kiss my sweeet azzz
Masken	Posted - 2004.11.01 12:10:00 - [114] Originally by: sj*** well angelthunder that is the lowest of the low to wish me dead in real life and crash my cessna 172sp and kill all my family and freinds in real life. well that is taking this to far you have no shame wishing death on folks in real life. well i gess that gose to show what kind of person you realy are,and what kind of leaders are incharge of the 20th legion. shame on you. well there you have it folks the true face of the 20th legion. Hey retard kiss my sweeet azzz
Oceanna	Posted - 2004.11.01 12:38:00 - [115] Well Im going to put a post to kill this thread.. 1: Sj*** and his corp has since retracted the war. 2: Losses to Legions of Gaul are 1 Raven, 1 Caracal, 1 Kestrel and one Ibis 3: Losses to 20th was 1 crow. Well that one was mine :-( 4: I am still his friend and was prepared to fight him and he knows it. Right SJ. Anyway in the end I don't think he could of won. but that is now a matter of speculation. Thread Closed.
Oceanna	Posted - 2004.11.01 12:38:00 - [116] Well Im going to put a post to kill this thread.. 1: Sj*** and his corp has since retracted the war. 2: Losses to Legions of Gaul are 1 Raven, 1 Caracal, 1 Kestrel and one Ibis 3: Losses to 20th was 1 crow. Well that one was mine :-( 4: I am still his friend and was prepared to fight him and he knows it. Right SJ. Anyway in the end I don't think he could of won. but that is now a matter of speculation. Thread Closed.
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sjgay	Posted - 2004.11.01 15:42:00 - [119] oceana you seem to have missed the two kills i got. i.e arms and his black bird and chong and his shuttel. and i think jumping john got chong again in a thorax.and of corse the kill vamp got on you in your crow but yes it was a good fight while it lasted. and yes numbers were on your side. but it was not about numbers was it ?
sjgay	Posted - 2004.11.01 15:42:00 - [120] oceana you seem to have missed the two kills i got. i.e arms and his black bird and chong and his shuttel. and i think jumping john got chong again in a thorax.and of corse the kill vamp got on you in your crow but yes it was a good fight while it lasted. and yes numbers were on your side. but it was not about numbers was it ?
sutty	Posted - 2004.11.01 15:54:00 - [121] KIAInkZ - You dont know me so dont comment on things you know nothing of, maybe we will meet at a eve meet one day heh ?
sutty	Posted - 2004.11.01 15:54:00 - [122] KIAInkZ - You dont know me so dont comment on things you know nothing of, maybe we will meet at a eve meet one day heh ?
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.01 18:42:00 - [123] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 01/11/2004 18:46:21 Originally by: sutty KIAInkZ - You dont know me so dont comment on things you know nothing of, maybe we will meet at a eve meet one day heh ? Maybe, then I might get to the bottom of the real reason so many of you have such a giant chip on your shoulder cause atm I'm struggling to find a reason apart from the above ;) --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.01 18:42:00 - [124] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 01/11/2004 18:46:21 Originally by: sutty KIAInkZ - You dont know me so dont comment on things you know nothing of, maybe we will meet at a eve meet one day heh ? Maybe, then I might get to the bottom of the real reason so many of you have such a giant chip on your shoulder cause atm I'm struggling to find a reason apart from the above ;) --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
sutty	Posted - 2004.11.01 18:45:00 - [125] Because this is a game where your surposed to enjoy yourself. Avoiding fighting and logging off is not enjoyable for both partys. PA do both.
sutty	Posted - 2004.11.01 18:45:00 - [126] Because this is a game where your surposed to enjoy yourself. Avoiding fighting and logging off is not enjoyable for both partys. PA do both.
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.01 19:13:00 - [127] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 01/11/2004 19:16:14 Originally by: sutty Because this is a game where your surposed to enjoy yourself. Avoiding fighting and logging off is not enjoyable for both partys. PA do both. So do Evol. In fact you started the whole joint log off rubbish, no point in denying it, I glad it really annoys you. Also if you guys actually wanted to fight then you should encourage it by making it enjoyable to actually fight you. The constant barage of abuse and disrespect every 5 mins won't promote the kind of attitude you're looking for. All your attitude and insults do is make people NOT want to fight you incase they encourage more of it. Maybe you should work out what's more important, your bully arrogant image, or your actual enjoyment in game. I get the impression it's the arrogance and bullying you actually get the kicks from, not PVP itself, hence my previous references. I really wish you'd all just take a leaf out of BNC's book because they've got the right idea, as much as I hate bigging up the enemy I couldn't say a bad thing about them. We're in the game to have fun and PVP, not try and belittle everyone at every opportunity. Maybe you guys should take at look and work out why people don't want to even be in the same area of space as you. I can promise you now that it's not because you are uber at PVP. I don't expect any of what I've said to make any difference, but maybe if it get's through to a single person it will have been worth posting --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.01 19:13:00 - [128] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 01/11/2004 19:16:14 Originally by: sutty Because this is a game where your surposed to enjoy yourself. Avoiding fighting and logging off is not enjoyable for both partys. PA do both. So do Evol. In fact you started the whole joint log off rubbish, no point in denying it, I glad it really annoys you. Also if you guys actually wanted to fight then you should encourage it by making it enjoyable to actually fight you. The constant barage of abuse and disrespect every 5 mins won't promote the kind of attitude you're looking for. All your attitude and insults do is make people NOT want to fight you incase they encourage more of it. Maybe you should work out what's more important, your bully arrogant image, or your actual enjoyment in game. I get the impression it's the arrogance and bullying you actually get the kicks from, not PVP itself, hence my previous references. I really wish you'd all just take a leaf out of BNC's book because they've got the right idea, as much as I hate bigging up the enemy I couldn't say a bad thing about them. We're in the game to have fun and PVP, not try and belittle everyone at every opportunity. Maybe you guys should take at look and work out why people don't want to even be in the same area of space as you. I can promise you now that it's not because you are uber at PVP. I don't expect any of what I've said to make any difference, but maybe if it get's through to a single person it will have been worth posting --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
sutty	Posted - 2004.11.01 19:36:00 - [129] KIAInkZ - Evol have and never will preform log off traps. We never mass log fleets. I know for a fact I would leave the corp in shame if it happened. We have proof that says you do, you have no proof we do. So cut the rubbish it never happened get out of your dream world, the fact is we are 500% better at eve then you.
sutty	Posted - 2004.11.01 19:36:00 - [130] KIAInkZ - Evol have and never will preform log off traps. We never mass log fleets. I know for a fact I would leave the corp in shame if it happened. We have proof that says you do, you have no proof we do. So cut the rubbish it never happened get out of your dream world, the fact is we are 500% better at eve then you.
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.01 21:36:00 - [131] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 01/11/2004 21:39:24 That's also a fine example of the arrogance I mentioned. I never accused you of log on traps, I accused you off mass logging fleets, and that I've seen on multiple occassions. I think you must move people through your alliance corps as they get older, RKK = 10 - 15 year olds, evol = 15 - 25 year olds and BNC over 25's. I think you must be at the lower end of the Evol scale. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.01 21:36:00 - [132] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 01/11/2004 21:39:24 That's also a fine example of the arrogance I mentioned. I never accused you of log on traps, I accused you off mass logging fleets, and that I've seen on multiple occassions. I think you must move people through your alliance corps as they get older, RKK = 10 - 15 year olds, evol = 15 - 25 year olds and BNC over 25's. I think you must be at the lower end of the Evol scale. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
patch	Posted - 2004.11.01 22:09:00 - [133] Rona-Kia = kindergarten then?
patch	Posted - 2004.11.01 22:09:00 - [134] Rona-Kia = kindergarten then?
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.11.01 22:36:00 - [135] Originally by: KIAInkZ Edited by: KIAInkZ on 01/11/2004 21:39:24 That's also a fine example of the arrogance I mentioned. I never accused you of log on traps, I accused you off mass logging fleets, and that I've seen on multiple occassions. I think you must move people through your alliance corps as they get older, RKK = 10 - 15 year olds, evol = 15 - 25 year olds and BNC over 25's. I think you must be at the lower end of the Evol scale. Who rattled your cage today? You trying to get a months worth of posting done in one day? Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.11.01 22:36:00 - [136] Originally by: KIAInkZ Edited by: KIAInkZ on 01/11/2004 21:39:24 That's also a fine example of the arrogance I mentioned. I never accused you of log on traps, I accused you off mass logging fleets, and that I've seen on multiple occassions. I think you must move people through your alliance corps as they get older, RKK = 10 - 15 year olds, evol = 15 - 25 year olds and BNC over 25's. I think you must be at the lower end of the Evol scale. Who rattled your cage today? You trying to get a months worth of posting done in one day? Eve Blacklight Style
Hamatitio	Posted - 2004.11.02 03:18:00 - [137] Edited by: Hamatitio on 02/11/2004 03:21:35 Haven't I killed you b4? Anyway, leave them damn PA bullies -- Director of Ganking: Death Row Inc.
Hamatitio	Posted - 2004.11.02 03:18:00 - [138] Edited by: Hamatitio on 02/11/2004 03:21:35 Haven't I killed you b4? Anyway, leave them damn PA bullies -- Director of Ganking: Death Row Inc.
sjgay	Posted - 2004.11.02 09:40:00 - [139] Edited by: sj** on 02/11/2004 09:43:36* ok guys no more i think you have all started to come to the same agrement. this is just a game and a game that must be enjoyed and not a game for all of us to fall out about. you are all good players and some of you are top players but the underlying thing is to enjoy the game and get on with one anouther as i have just found out. and above all have lots of fun. and role play to the hilt. i have played games for years and never have i see such a game as this, so lets all stop slaging each outher of and get back to the game that makes us all so fired up. remember this is just a game. ( i think ) is it ?
sjgay	Posted - 2004.11.02 09:40:00 - [140] Edited by: sj** on 02/11/2004 09:43:36* ok guys no more i think you have all started to come to the same agrement. this is just a game and a game that must be enjoyed and not a game for all of us to fall out about. you are all good players and some of you are top players but the underlying thing is to enjoy the game and get on with one anouther as i have just found out. and above all have lots of fun. and role play to the hilt. i have played games for years and never have i see such a game as this, so lets all stop slaging each outher of and get back to the game that makes us all so fired up. remember this is just a game. ( i think ) is it ?
Lianhaun	Posted - 2004.11.02 09:47:00 - [141] We also have some grandads in evol too. Just thought I'd post that so they feel OLD when they read it. This is not a hijack
Lianhaun	Posted - 2004.11.02 09:47:00 - [142] We also have some grandads in evol too. Just thought I'd post that so they feel OLD when they read it. This is not a hijack
Oceanna	Posted - 2004.11.02 14:13:00 - [143] Originally by: sj*** oceana you seem to have missed the two kills i got. i.e arms and his black bird and chong and his shuttel. and i think jumping john got chong again in a thorax.and of corse the kill vamp got on you in your crow but yes it was a good fight while it lasted. and yes numbers were on your side. but it was not about numbers was it ? Well those guys you killed are no longer in our corp.. Oops but I did mention my crow... hehe Too bad you surrendered.. I.e. Retracted the WAR.. See you soon bud :-)
Oceanna	Posted - 2004.11.02 14:13:00 - [144] Originally by: sj*** oceana you seem to have missed the two kills i got. i.e arms and his black bird and chong and his shuttel. and i think jumping john got chong again in a thorax.and of corse the kill vamp got on you in your crow but yes it was a good fight while it lasted. and yes numbers were on your side. but it was not about numbers was it ? Well those guys you killed are no longer in our corp.. Oops but I did mention my crow... hehe Too bad you surrendered.. I.e. Retracted the WAR.. See you soon bud :-)
X Man	Posted - 2004.11.03 17:49:00 - [145] i joined sj in the fight against the 20th and although i may have been mistakened to take arms against my former corpmates, i can say that sj is a great leader and had focus. he had a goal and accomplished it. i wish the pa, 20th and SJ the best of all this world and eve have to offer. my appologies to my bothers that i fired upon. i was under orders and i know you can appreciate that. when i felt that i could no longer follow that direction i left. may your God bless you all. X Man
X Man	Posted - 2004.11.03 17:49:00 - [146] i joined sj in the fight against the 20th and although i may have been mistakened to take arms against my former corpmates, i can say that sj is a great leader and had focus. he had a goal and accomplished it. i wish the pa, 20th and SJ the best of all this world and eve have to offer. my appologies to my bothers that i fired upon. i was under orders and i know you can appreciate that. when i felt that i could no longer follow that direction i left. may your God bless you all. X Man

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