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Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:04:00 -
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I am thinking about setting up a Dominix for hunting sansha spawns in 0.0. What I am trying to find is a close range setup so I can get in amongst the spawn, kill them with blasters and drones and collect the loot quickly. At the same time though I want to be effectively tanking the spawn.
I appreciate that this is a tall order, but is anyone out there using a setup that can do this? I have heard of peeps running 3 Medium T2 reppers instead of large ones and I am curious as to the effectiveness of this.
Thanks for looking! 
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:04:00 -
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I am thinking about setting up a Dominix for hunting sansha spawns in 0.0. What I am trying to find is a close range setup so I can get in amongst the spawn, kill them with blasters and drones and collect the loot quickly. At the same time though I want to be effectively tanking the spawn.
I appreciate that this is a tall order, but is anyone out there using a setup that can do this? I have heard of peeps running 3 Medium T2 reppers instead of large ones and I am curious as to the effectiveness of this.
Thanks for looking!
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:11:00 -
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Thinking about it some more I was wondering if this kind of setup would work....EvE's down right now so I cannot test ( might not have enough grid / cpu )
Low
3 Med T2 Armour reppers
4 Hardners
Med
MWD ( Named )
4 T2 Cap Rechargers
High
Not sure....lol. Maybe 3 L Blasters ( Named ) 2/3 Heavy Nos..?
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:11:00 -
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Thinking about it some more I was wondering if this kind of setup would work....EvE's down right now so I cannot test ( might not have enough grid / cpu )
Low
3 Med T2 Armour reppers
4 Hardners
Med
MWD ( Named )
4 T2 Cap Rechargers
High
Not sure....lol. Maybe 3 L Blasters ( Named ) 2/3 Heavy Nos..?
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
BioNeb
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:18:00 -
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I'm always using this kind of setup for npc hunting in a dominix for close range.
Hi:
- 3 Ions
- 2 Electrons
- Heavy Nosf
Med:
- MWD
- named cap rechargers or T2 cap rechargers
Low:
- Kinetic hardener
- Thermal hardener
- Magnetic Stabilizer II
- 1 Large rep I
- 1 medium rep I or II
- 2 cap relays
Alot of wasps or ogre/preator mix.
Please try this, it has got me into fun situations and still like the setup :) If you got the cpu/pg for putting on other blasters like neutrons then do so :)
I hit cruisers and bses very well, the ceptors and other frigs are getting killed by the drones, however, i would advice to switch one large blaster to a medium blaster.
Greetz,
BioNeb
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BioNeb
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:18:00 -
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I'm always using this kind of setup for npc hunting in a dominix for close range.
Hi:
- 3 Ions
- 2 Electrons
- Heavy Nosf
Med:
- MWD
- named cap rechargers or T2 cap rechargers
Low:
- Kinetic hardener
- Thermal hardener
- Magnetic Stabilizer II
- 1 Large rep I
- 1 medium rep I or II
- 2 cap relays
Alot of wasps or ogre/preator mix.
Please try this, it has got me into fun situations and still like the setup :) If you got the cpu/pg for putting on other blasters like neutrons then do so :)
I hit cruisers and bses very well, the ceptors and other frigs are getting killed by the drones, however, i would advice to switch one large blaster to a medium blaster.
Greetz,
BioNeb
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Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Shaleen on 30/10/2004 12:02:42
Thanks for the quick reply. Do you have any cap problems running that setup?
Also, thinking about it, sansha bs's like to run and keep the range. Would there be enough cap to MWD to close down the range or would a webber be better? Only problem I can see with the webber is loosing a Cap Recharger 2.
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Shaleen on 30/10/2004 12:02:42
Thanks for the quick reply. Do you have any cap problems running that setup?
Also, thinking about it, sansha bs's like to run and keep the range. Would there be enough cap to MWD to close down the range or would a webber be better? Only problem I can see with the webber is loosing a Cap Recharger 2.
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
BioNeb
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Posted - 2004.10.30 12:52:00 -
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Well a webber can be useful (to be honest i forgot to mention that :S)
I have no cap problems, if you do (try it on cruisers 1st) then use a webber and perhaps a cap booster, but the nosferatu should maintain your cap at some point while running reps, guns
bio
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BioNeb
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Posted - 2004.10.30 12:52:00 -
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Well a webber can be useful (to be honest i forgot to mention that :S)
I have no cap problems, if you do (try it on cruisers 1st) then use a webber and perhaps a cap booster, but the nosferatu should maintain your cap at some point while running reps, guns
bio
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Sollytear
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Posted - 2004.10.30 13:40:00 -
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looks good setup there bio. Its the sort i was looking for on my dom. Just 2 clearify they are large blasters aye?
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Sollytear
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Posted - 2004.10.30 13:40:00 -
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looks good setup there bio. Its the sort i was looking for on my dom. Just 2 clearify they are large blasters aye?
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BioNeb
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Posted - 2004.10.30 14:58:00 -
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yes large ones, the drones handle frigs without a big hush :)
but ya can always swap a large for a med blaster, upto your personal touch :)
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BioNeb
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Posted - 2004.10.30 14:58:00 -
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yes large ones, the drones handle frigs without a big hush :)
but ya can always swap a large for a med blaster, upto your personal touch :)
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Sollytear
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Posted - 2004.10.30 16:04:00 -
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now, ive always found 250mms good on a dom because range is ok, good at frigs, and u have lots of grid left over for other stuff... lke 1 UBER UBER gun :D
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Sollytear
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Posted - 2004.10.30 16:04:00 -
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now, ive always found 250mms good on a dom because range is ok, good at frigs, and u have lots of grid left over for other stuff... lke 1 UBER UBER gun :D
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ArcticWolf
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Posted - 2004.10.30 16:45:00 -
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ok i forget the slots of a domi offhand, im assuming their 6-5-6 or something similar...well no matter ill just give the general setup. starting with mediums, get a mwd, webber, and 3 tech 2 cap rechargers. then for the specific npc your fighting, used 2 hardners for the 2 damages. and then a accomo armor rep and a nice cap relay. for highs alot of people use 3 med guns and 3 med nosferatos. then find out via eve-i which type of damage the npc are weakest too, then get a load of the right drones. my friend does a similar setup, dont remember exactly, sorry, and he can take out any of the bs spawns, but it does take a while to kill a 1.5m with just drones, but it is possible due to they way the are setup to roll if they boost or not. and the med guns help too, his setup used to be 6 med nosferatos.
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ArcticWolf
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Posted - 2004.10.30 16:45:00 -
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ok i forget the slots of a domi offhand, im assuming their 6-5-6 or something similar...well no matter ill just give the general setup. starting with mediums, get a mwd, webber, and 3 tech 2 cap rechargers. then for the specific npc your fighting, used 2 hardners for the 2 damages. and then a accomo armor rep and a nice cap relay. for highs alot of people use 3 med guns and 3 med nosferatos. then find out via eve-i which type of damage the npc are weakest too, then get a load of the right drones. my friend does a similar setup, dont remember exactly, sorry, and he can take out any of the bs spawns, but it does take a while to kill a 1.5m with just drones, but it is possible due to they way the are setup to roll if they boost or not. and the med guns help too, his setup used to be 6 med nosferatos.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.10.30 21:55:00 -
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Running a nosferatu doesn't seem to do that much for me against npcs. According to my calculations it should increase my cap recharge by an additional 8 cap per seconds, but I didn't see that so I stopped using it in favor of an additional gun.
This, then, is my current setup:
High slots
4 large electron cannons
2 large ion cannons
Medium slots
MWD
4 cap rechargers (I'm cheap so I run a combination of tech I rechargers laced with some of the eutetics I loot)
Low slots
4 active armor hardeners (I hunt Guristas, so I use 2 kinetic and 2 thermic)
2 tech 2 medium armor repairers
PDU
I'm still waffling on the PDU. If I swap it for a cap power relay I get slightly better cap recharge, but I have to swap one ion cannon for an electron. I think that running the second ion cannon makes up for the very slightly lower cap recharge.
Tanking wise this does really well. I have no problem taking on double BS spawns, and triples can usually be taken out without having to warp out and back. I used to run a triple tech 2 medium repairer loadout, and I found that my limitation was always cap and not the repair rate (that is, with all three repairers going, I would lose cap fast enough that I wouldn't be able to run them very much, keeping me from taking out multiple BS spawns without warping out to recharge). With 2 repairers and higher cap recharge, I can run one repairer almost constantly to keep up with damage, while reserving the second repairer to handle really heavy damage. The biggest spawn I've taken out with this without having to warp away to recharge is dual conquistador + 6 cruisers (conquistadors are 1 million isk scorpions), and I have yet to find one that I can't handle at all.
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |
Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.10.30 21:55:00 -
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Running a nosferatu doesn't seem to do that much for me against npcs. According to my calculations it should increase my cap recharge by an additional 8 cap per seconds, but I didn't see that so I stopped using it in favor of an additional gun.
This, then, is my current setup:
High slots
4 large electron cannons
2 large ion cannons
Medium slots
MWD
4 cap rechargers (I'm cheap so I run a combination of tech I rechargers laced with some of the eutetics I loot)
Low slots
4 active armor hardeners (I hunt Guristas, so I use 2 kinetic and 2 thermic)
2 tech 2 medium armor repairers
PDU
I'm still waffling on the PDU. If I swap it for a cap power relay I get slightly better cap recharge, but I have to swap one ion cannon for an electron. I think that running the second ion cannon makes up for the very slightly lower cap recharge.
Tanking wise this does really well. I have no problem taking on double BS spawns, and triples can usually be taken out without having to warp out and back. I used to run a triple tech 2 medium repairer loadout, and I found that my limitation was always cap and not the repair rate (that is, with all three repairers going, I would lose cap fast enough that I wouldn't be able to run them very much, keeping me from taking out multiple BS spawns without warping out to recharge). With 2 repairers and higher cap recharge, I can run one repairer almost constantly to keep up with damage, while reserving the second repairer to handle really heavy damage. The biggest spawn I've taken out with this without having to warp away to recharge is dual conquistador + 6 cruisers (conquistadors are 1 million isk scorpions), and I have yet to find one that I can't handle at all.
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |
Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.30 22:07:00 -
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Thanks for the replies guys, plenty of food for thought. I do have a question with regards to tanking. Can 2 T2 Med Reppers keep up with serious BS spawns? Would a Large and a Med be better or is it a case of cap drainage? As I would need to run the MWD to get in close to the spawn I am concerned with loosing cap.
Right now I cannot test these ideas as I dont have a dommie - it's in the oven cooking .
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.30 22:07:00 -
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Thanks for the replies guys, plenty of food for thought. I do have a question with regards to tanking. Can 2 T2 Med Reppers keep up with serious BS spawns? Would a Large and a Med be better or is it a case of cap drainage? As I would need to run the MWD to get in close to the spawn I am concerned with loosing cap.
Right now I cannot test these ideas as I dont have a dommie - it's in the oven cooking .
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.31 08:34:00 -
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Shintoko thats a good looking setup. I have a question about it though. Do you not use a webber? The reason I ask is the last time I was fighting Sansha BS's they tended to run away from me, trying to keep out of range. I found that once they were webbed they were very easy to kill.
I appreciate that in order to fit a webber I would have to sacrifice a T2 Cap Recharger, not so sure if that's a good idea.
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
Shaleen
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Posted - 2004.10.31 08:34:00 -
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Shintoko thats a good looking setup. I have a question about it though. Do you not use a webber? The reason I ask is the last time I was fighting Sansha BS's they tended to run away from me, trying to keep out of range. I found that once they were webbed they were very easy to kill.
I appreciate that in order to fit a webber I would have to sacrifice a T2 Cap Recharger, not so sure if that's a good idea.
The cult of evil rabbits salute you \o/ |
rowbin hod
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Posted - 2004.10.31 12:20:00 -
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My npc setup is exactly the same for mining as it is for killing npcs...
Highs:
6 x Miner II
Mids:
Survey Scanner
4 x Cap Recharger II
Lows:
2 x Large armor reps
2 x harderners (type depends on npc)
3 x cap power relays
Drones:
30 ogres 
With my engineering skills (ESO and EM at level 4) which are unremarkable, the cap goes down to about 50% running the 2 reps and 2 hardeners continuously, add the mining lasers onto it, and it goes down to about 30% minimum. With Gall BS at level 3 and Drone interfacing at level 4, you can use 12 drones. This setup can easily take out dual enforcer spawns (2 x 750k megathrons) with webbing inties in accompanyment. You can even chew on some roids while killing them!!!
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rowbin hod
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Posted - 2004.10.31 12:20:00 -
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My npc setup is exactly the same for mining as it is for killing npcs...
Highs:
6 x Miner II
Mids:
Survey Scanner
4 x Cap Recharger II
Lows:
2 x Large armor reps
2 x harderners (type depends on npc)
3 x cap power relays
Drones:
30 ogres
With my engineering skills (ESO and EM at level 4) which are unremarkable, the cap goes down to about 50% running the 2 reps and 2 hardeners continuously, add the mining lasers onto it, and it goes down to about 30% minimum. With Gall BS at level 3 and Drone interfacing at level 4, you can use 12 drones. This setup can easily take out dual enforcer spawns (2 x 750k megathrons) with webbing inties in accompanyment. You can even chew on some roids while killing them!!!
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"Due to the European lard shortage, we are currently unable to supply this product." |
Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.10.31 17:52:00 -
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Nope, no webber for me. I run into the same thing with Guristas (the Ravens will open range), but they aren't a problem to deal with. I'll just kill everything close to me, then MWD to the Raven (I use my MWD in manual mode, and only hit another pulse when I get down to about 300m/s to save cap). Personally I wouldn't want to give up the 15%+ cap recharge of one of my cap rechargers for a web. You have to be within 10km of a ship to web it anyways, and if you're within 10km of a battleship in a blaster-equipped Dominix with a full compliment of heavy drones, it's going down...
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |
Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.10.31 17:52:00 -
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Nope, no webber for me. I run into the same thing with Guristas (the Ravens will open range), but they aren't a problem to deal with. I'll just kill everything close to me, then MWD to the Raven (I use my MWD in manual mode, and only hit another pulse when I get down to about 300m/s to save cap). Personally I wouldn't want to give up the 15%+ cap recharge of one of my cap rechargers for a web. You have to be within 10km of a ship to web it anyways, and if you're within 10km of a battleship in a blaster-equipped Dominix with a full compliment of heavy drones, it's going down...
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