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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.10.19 09:43:00 -
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I would like to announce my candidacy for CSM.
My main platform is about looking for the interests of faction war players, no matter which side they are on. So far CSM, in regards to faction war, has been dominated by people motivated more by their personal agendas than game play interests.
I dont promise to pull down the Dyspro moon from the heaven and hand it to you (symbolically speaking) because I dont believe that is even possible as member of CSM. I also dont claim to have knowledge of 0.0 POS warfare or SOV.
However, what I do know is the faction warfare mechanisms inside out, both high-sec and low-sec and all the issues which lower FW enjoyment. I feel that if CCP is to make corrections to many of the currently flawed mechanisms, I am qualified enough to consult on it.
I am also long-term resident of low-sec space and feel that I can also speak on their behalf, whether they are -10.0 or 5.0
This is what I offer, it may not sound much but it's something I believe I can deliver instead of making unrealistic promises such as "I will remove CONCORD".
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.10.19 09:53:00 -
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PERVS approves this candidate.
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knifee
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2009.10.19 12:12:00 -
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I have no doubt that behind the smack in local you are a good guy Damar (who doesn't enjoy a bit of good smack talk?).
However I find it hard to believe that you could be the voice of all four militias.
That said, perhaps you could outline your views on the current imbalance between the minmatar/caldari vs Galente/Amarr Plex NPCs.
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Wallinstar
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Posted - 2009.10.19 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: knifee
However I find it hard to believe that you could be the voice of all four militias.
Why? Do you think maybe Ankh was? Does one have to go through at least three different militias to qualify like Ankh did? Backstab your former fleeetmates to demonstrate knowledge and experience in all fronts? Do you honestly think that Damar wants to get elected to persue some kind of personal or pro Caldari agenda?
Or do you just question his capability and knowledge and not his motives? Because I am getting a bit of both from your post.
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knifee
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2009.10.19 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wallinstar
Originally by: knifee
However I find it hard to believe that you could be the voice of all four militias.
Why? Do you think maybe Ankh was? Does one have to go through at least three different militias to qualify like Ankh did? Backstab your former fleeetmates to demonstrate knowledge and experience in all fronts? Do you honestly think that Damar wants to get elected to persue some kind of personal or pro Caldari agenda?
Or do you just question his capability and knowledge and not his motives? Because I am getting a bit of both from your post.
First, I didn't bring up Ankh and I dont really understand why you did? Unless you think that Damar should stand on a 'I'm not Ankh' platform? I don't think that's what hes doing, but perhaps that's why you will vote for him?
Second, and to the point, all i know about Damar comes from the persona he projects in local and his posting on these forums. Neither of these things lead me to believe that he is able or perhaps willing to act in the best interests of militias other then his own.
I do however look forward to hearing more from him but it will take more then what hes written in the OP to persuade me.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.10.19 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 19/10/2009 20:33:02 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 19/10/2009 20:29:51 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 19/10/2009 20:27:13
Originally by: knifee That said, perhaps you could outline your views on the current imbalance between the minmatar/caldari vs Galente/Amarr Plex NPCs.
As far as I understand, current issue with many people is that offensive Gallente/Amarr plexes can be speedtanked. This applies to medium and major plexes (if someone has to speed tank a minor plex, he is doing something badly wrong).
It is indeed possible to take a major Amarr/Gallante plex with properly fitted t1 frigate* while Matar/Caldari requires specially fitted tank (such as Enyo/Ishkur) or multiple warp outs which i've seen Amarrian inties do.
Now, the best solution in my opinion for a fix would be to simply give missiles to all plexes, either to npcs (note that many gallente npc ships already shoot defender rockets) or having the initial spawn in plexes to be mixture of missile and gun batteries (perhaps even a webifier).
This would also eliminate initial ewar from plexes if ships carrying it would only spawn after timer is started and perhaps urge more people to attack them. Defender would still receive dps bonus from them of course.
And yes, killing npcs should be required in all cases for plex to capture which would immediately help in regards to self-running timers.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
* AB Punisher worked for me in Gallente majors while I hear Vigil works well enough for Amarr but I lack personal experience in conquering Amarr plexes so this is hearsay.
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.19 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: knifee However I find it hard to believe that you could be the voice of all four militias.
Damar has had the ear of the Amarr Militia for some time just as we have had his. He has proven to have a thorough understanding of what is wrong with the current FW system on all sides of the war.
As he shares the burning passion that I myself have for this corner of the universe and since I am certain that he can be unbiased when called for he has my vote.
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Val Erian
Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia
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Posted - 2009.10.19 23:11:00 -
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Quote: My main platform is about looking for the interests of faction war players, no matter which side they are on. So far CSM, in regards to faction war, has been dominated by people motivated more by their personal agendas than game play interests.
Sorry. Having had much interaction with Damar, his numerous alts and his best friends the Pervs , this statement is quite frankly laughable in its blatent in sincerity.
His repeated emotional outbursts in local, his vociferous ,real life hatred of your opponents in Faction War is out in the open is and quite well known. by even causal observers.
He is motivated by personal dislike of Ank, and a desire for revenge against the people he dislikes , of which there are many.
There is no possible way he could put his emotions aside to deal with Faction Warfare as a whole without making sure the interests of his self identified faction was paramount.
I strongly suggest that this canidate is not in the best interests of Faction warfare as a whole or Eve for that matter.
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Tony Sharp
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Posted - 2009.10.20 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tony Sharp on 20/10/2009 06:37:30
Originally by: knifee First, I didn't bring up Ankh and I dont really understand why you did?
Because she was the closest thing FW ever had for a representative in the CSM? And I brought her up because you seem to think Damar can be possibly worse.
Originally by: Val Erian I strongly suggest that this canidate is not in the best interests of Faction warfare as a whole and should not be supported as the "FW" canidate.
Val do you also think that Damar is doing this for himself? Do you think that whatever proposals for FW changes go to CCP will be his own? Are you so set in your mind that you would prefer no FW participant in CSM instead? You have exchanged noumerous blows and words with Damar Rocarion - Brigadier General in game, maybe you should try shaking hands with the man behind the General. Because he is the one to represent us, not his ingame persona.
I have flown with Damar on many occasions and although I can not claim to know him very well, I can attest to one thing: he is an honourable person. And you just can not put a price to that especially in politics which is what this is all about. I would vote someone just for that.
Damn alt posting - Wallinstar
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.10.20 08:15:00 -
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I can't seem to find the thread in C&P people are talking about where he kills mission runners. Would someone be so kind to link it?
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.10.20 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 20/10/2009 09:01:36
Originally by: Val Erian The problems people have clearly and repeatly expressed which he has dismised are that Caldari NPC's are overpowered with ECM/missile spam and that this leads to less PvP as people dont want to be perma jammed while fighting.
But this does applies to both Caldari and Gallente plexes. Whoever has the aggro will be either ECM'ed (randomly) or damped (always works) and indeed be somewhat unable to do anything. Both of these can be bypassed in a way with fof missiles or drones or the plex can be captured anyway with specially fitted ship.
If you do solo plexing, of course the ewar in either races plex will gimp your perfomance and if you have npc aggro solo, I doubt anyone would start 1 vs 1 fight in such situation. Lets not forget that Caldari did conquer all systems and had to deal with NPCs and someone always had to be the fall guy for npc aggro and damps. (but of course we killed the rats so eventually everyone was free of Ewar).
Above of course speaks about Caldari/Gallente plexes. I cannot comment on Amarr offensive plexes as i've not captured any.
It is perhaps true that Caldari npcs are better than some but npcs are nonetheless important factor of faction war so removing all of them would probably be disservice (as it helps new people in pvp and gives outgunned defender some help). I do agree that some tweaks are likely in order for Amarr and Gallente npcs to put them more on par with Matar and Caldari.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.20 13:12:00 -
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I doubt you'd want to try this on the Live Server, but I do have a suggestion for you if you have access to SISI.
Get an alt into the Gallente Militia on SISI and try running plexes for the Gallente Militia on there where it won't affect whats happening on Tranquility. You've got a lot of experience with how the Plexes work from the Caldari Point of View, see whether the same tactics and fittings tailored for Caldari Rats allow you to run those plexes with the same degree of dificulty.
For example, was it possible to Run Gallente Medium Plexes (and higher) Solo by Speed Tanking in a Rat Specific Hardened T1 Frigate? If so, would the same frigate be able to do the same in a Caldari Plex when the hardeners are switched out to focus on Caldari Rats instead or would you need a much more specialised Ship to do the same task? To what degree does the NPC E-War hamper your ability to operate within those plexes when they're also defended by Enemy Plexers?
The Problem is, until you do this from an unbiased perspective and publish your findings, people are going to believe that your Candidacy will be biased towards making FW Better for the Caldari alone even if that isn't your intention.
For myself, I'm keeping an open mind on this and have not decided whether or not to support you in the Election Yet. ---------------
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Val Erian
Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia
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Posted - 2009.10.20 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Val Erian on 20/10/2009 13:36:59
Quote: Val do you also think that Damar is doing this for himself?
Yes. He is personaly invested in his faction 'winning'.
His other motivation stated by his most ardent friends , The Space Pervs who say in public it's " to get revenge for people who voted for Ankh"
His only goal appears to be to keep the current FW plexing system as it currently is, because his faction currently dominates that system.
He doesnt want to change anything except make other npc rats (Gallente/Amarr) more difficult.
What about changes in the whole plexing system? The only thing I can see from other forums is a notion that increasing the amount of time on plexs and decreasing the amount of plexs will somehow lead to more PvP. Does Damar endorse this idea still? I personaly couldnt think of a worse one if I tried.
I have seen proposals that offensive must kill the spawns to cap plexs......but nothing about a t1 frig 'defending' a major plex. That can't be changed becasue then how would a certain faction defend with their alts? etc, etc.
So bottom line, I don't agree with the only proposals he has put forward. They seem self serving to his own interests .
It would take a lot for me to be convinced that his 'in game personae' isn't his real face.
So I stand by my earlier call that Damar is not the person best suited to represent FW to CCP. While he does understan dcurrent mechanics, he just wants them "fixed" not overhauled.
His ideas are out of synch with the majority of FW players who don't care for the current plex/system occupancy system and he has not demonstrated any impartiality in game or on these forums.
EDIT: Quote: This would also eliminate initial ewar from plexes if ships carrying it would only spawn after timer is started and perhaps urge more people to attack them. Defender would still receive dps bonus from them of course.
And yes, killing npcs should be required in all cases for plex to capture which would immediately help in regards to self-running timers.
bugs in plexs should of course be fixed. But proposing that offensive ships must kill spawn for that bug only raises the question about 'defensive' plexers causing this any ideas on that?..... the whole sentence just demonstrates lack of impartiality.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.10.20 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Val Erian Edited by: Val Erian on 20/10/2009 13:36:59
Quote: Val do you also think that Damar is doing this for himself?
Yes. He is personaly invested in his faction 'winning'.
His other motivation stated by his most ardent friends , The Space Pervs who say in public it's " to get revenge for people who voted for Ankh"
His only goal appears to be to keep the current FW plexing system as it currently is, because his faction currently dominates that system.
He doesnt want to change anything except make other npc rats (Gallente/Amarr) more difficult.
What about changes in the whole plexing system? The only thing I can see from other forums is a notion that increasing the amount of time on plexs and decreasing the amount of plexs will somehow lead to more PvP. Does Damar endorse this idea still? I personaly couldnt think of a worse one if I tried.
I have seen proposals that offensive must kill the spawns to cap plexs......but nothing about a t1 frig 'defending' a major plex. That can't be changed becasue then how would a certain faction defend with their alts? etc, etc.
So bottom line, I don't agree with the only proposals he has put forward. They seem self serving to his own interests .
It would take a lot for me to be convinced that his 'in game personae' isn't his real face.
So I stand by my earlier call that Damar is not the person best suited to represent FW to CCP. While he does understan dcurrent mechanics, he just wants them "fixed" not overhauled.
His ideas are out of synch with the majority of FW players who don't care for the current plex/system occupancy system and he has not demonstrated any impartiality in game or on these forums.
EDIT: Quote: This would also eliminate initial ewar from plexes if ships carrying it would only spawn after timer is started and perhaps urge more people to attack them. Defender would still receive dps bonus from them of course.
And yes, killing npcs should be required in all cases for plex to capture which would immediately help in regards to self-running timers.
bugs in plexs should of course be fixed. But proposing that offensive ships must kill spawn for that bug only raises the question about 'defensive' plexers causing this any ideas on that?..... the whole sentence just demonstrates lack of impartiality.
EVE is quite complex game and you are talking about details when you should look at big picture.
NPC is not a problem, it really does not matter what it does if you have reason to kill those and capture that plex, you will do it.
We all want more pvp in plexes, but it seems that those who whine about npc does not want to capture those plexes. They just want easy kills. FW should be capturing systems not just easy kills. It has to have bigger goals too.
Caldari npc may need some balancing but not much. Val itself has shown that those can be captured by solo. He can kill enymy in those too, sometimes it goes well somethimes not.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.10.20 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre For example, was it possible to Run Gallente Medium Plexes (and higher) Solo by Speed Tanking in a Rat Specific Hardened T1 Frigate? If so, would the same frigate be able to do the same in a Caldari Plex when the hardeners are switched out to focus on Caldari Rats instead or would you need a much more specialised Ship to do the same task?
I have actually tried tanking Caldari plexes with an alt of mine in TQ. And usually end result has not been very succesful. Interceptor certainly could not speed tank close enough without having to warp out repeatedly (neither could Vigil).
I've not tried tanking one in t1 punisher, perhaps only t1 frigate which might be able to pull it off. My alt did kill one to medium plex which tanked it quite well but I reckon it wont do it forever unless your fit is completely aimed at tanking the said npcs in which case it's quite useless in pvp.
However, what BM says and what Battlestar Crusader says in other thread raise a good point. People would need more incentive to go to plexes and then discussion about solo capture would probably no longer be necessary. The question is of course how it can be done?
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.10.20 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 20/10/2009 22:10:22 You're a scumbag, griefer and serious exploiter that abuses the complex timer exploits with a bunch of alts, so noone in their right mind and any interest in FW should consider voting for you.
You should be banned instead. Which I'm sure which is exactly what will happen when Internal Affairs will look through your accounts as part of your application, by the way. ---
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.10.20 22:55:00 -
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Anything i've seen damar doing, he puts whole heart on it. and he has my vote. Oh yes he have bad days, being angry and stuff, but isn't he just a human too ;)
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah INSERT INSULTS HERE
You should just cut the bull and shut up. ---- -Bad Messenger doesn't actually write on forums, the words assemble themselves out of fear.
Mahooky Dowripple > I vote tosi for breakfast
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Eva Jobse
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Posted - 2009.10.20 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tosi Anything i've seen damar doing, he puts whole heart on it.
Such as acting like a hysteric basement kid in local. Does Damar even meet the age requirements for being on the CSM?
Gonna vote for him so he will continously smack all the other CSMs during the meeting and has issue document with profanity in every other sentence. Hilarous.
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.10.21 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Eva Jobse
Originally by: Tosi Anything i've seen damar doing, he puts whole heart on it.
Such as acting like a hysteric basement kid in local. Does Damar even meet the age requirements for being on the CSM?
Gonna vote for him so he will continously smack all the other CSMs during the meeting and has issue document with profanity in every other sentence. Hilarous.
gag anyone? this is way too funny. you should reread terms of use and eula and think what you did wrong. ---- -Bad Messenger doesn't actually write on forums, the words assemble themselves out of fear.
Mahooky Dowripple > I vote tosi for breakfast
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Val Erian
Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia
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Posted - 2009.10.21 00:43:00 -
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Quote: We all want more pvp in plexes, but it seems that those who whine about npc does not want to capture those plexes. They just want easy kills. FW should be capturing systems not just easy kills. It has to have bigger goals too.
Tbh having you support your friend Damar should be good enough for most people to not support him . So keep on whining about other people whining.
But you say it should be about capturing systems, and bigger goals to... at the same time you say current plex system is fine, npcs are fine , everything is fine with FW.... so what are you thinking that Damar will do?
Stop changes to NPC's? Halt any changes to plex syatems and sytem capture? So many people dont share your view of FW.. and they should just change their minds? :)
And finaly a question for the Canidate himself.
What is your vision for FW? What changes would you like to see for th e future that you will push for? Do you share your great friend Bad Messengers views that all is fine? If people would just change their attitude it would be great?
Wholesale overhaul of plex system that most people dont like? Or a few tweaks here and there?
HOw about an outline of a real platform instead of I know current FW mechanics the best of all ?
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Evienia
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Posted - 2009.10.21 06:21:00 -
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Edited by: Evienia on 21/10/2009 06:23:07
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah [Quote]Contrary to the slander here, you can see clearly that my view is entirely neutral and unbiased.
While you cleary stated that your CSM will make sure PERVS and Damar Rocario does not get any kind of reward? Stated MANY MANY times in your public channel. Stated many times to us. Constant calling of us as exploiters with out proof while you plex with high caldari standings so NPC agro wont work on you?
Lets see what we got while YOU were on CSM:
1. Even bugged plexes, nothing done here only worse. 2. FW lp rewards + increased mission income. 3. Incoming nerf to obviously easy lp/isk farming machine that should not have been there in the first place.
PS.So uh nice ideas. Too bad CCP seems to thin other way around and not many your ideas has been noted.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.10.21 09:28:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 21/10/2009 09:31:06 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 21/10/2009 09:29:01 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 21/10/2009 09:28:26
Originally by: Val Erian HOw about Fw missions what are your thoughts on those? Success after all you say you made billions farming them, should they be changed now?
The current mechanism is flawed. I believe Ankh was talking about need for FW rewards and this is what we got. PERVS and some others said that system was broken the moment it was annnounced yet it came along anyway. I really wonder how come people required weeks to understand how to farm them.
We did the missions before the changes anyway, mostly to have an objective for roaming gang. Now there really is no need. We were given the key to bank vault so should we not use it?
The mechanism should not allow continuous declining of missions. This makes it possible to essentially have an assembly line for LP like Caldari have and I reckon Gallente have as well in Nennamaila area.
As said in other thread, make declining not possible (except the one in 4h) but if mission fails, dont give standing hit. This would reduce the functionality of "assembly line". It might also bring more roaming FW missioner gangs (like we had) to low-sec instead of current soloing/alt tanker setups which rarely pvp.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.10.21 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Evienia
While you cleary stated that your CSM will make sure PERVS and Damar Rocario does not get any kind of reward? Stated MANY MANY times in your public channel. Stated many times to us. Constant calling of us as exploiters with out proof while you plex with high caldari standings so NPC agro wont work on you?
I smell bull**** as we don't even HAVE a public channel! Communication with the majority players goes through E(ve)mail or private convos.
And we don't discuss individual corps internally. Erik didn't even know PERVS by name, until the week before Fanfest, when we discovered the complex timer exploit and the people involved.
TAKE CARE is there to make EVE better for all players, no matter what side they are on, not to pursue a petty vengeance agenda. Damar's sole purpose on the CSM is because he has beef with me, and that's exactly why I don't believe he will be a good CSM that represents all factions, not to mention all playstyles in EVE.
Damar just wants to keep everything in FW as it is, as evidenced by the earlier thread in warfare and tactics, which is exactly why he has beef with me and TAKE CARE, because we raised issues such as rebalancing the FW NPCs and fixing broken plex mechanics, which he doesn't want to happen.
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.10.21 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tosi on 21/10/2009 11:05:10 Edited by: Tosi on 21/10/2009 11:04:50
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
And we don't discuss individual corps internally. Erik didn't even know PERVS by name, until the week before Fanfest, when we discovered the complex timer exploit and the people involved.
it has been bugreported like qazillion times. for around a year by now. ---- -Bad Messenger doesn't actually write on forums, the words assemble themselves out of fear.
Mahooky Dowripple > I vote tosi for breakfast
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.10.21 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Damar just wants to keep everything in FW as it is, as evidenced by the earlier thread in warfare and tactics, which is exactly why he has beef with me and TAKE CARE
Could you perhaps create a seperate thread for all the issues you have with me and PERVS, along with all the proof you have about said exploits. It would be nice to keep this thread somewhat on topic and relevant without getting all personal.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.10.21 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tosi it has been bugreported like qazillion times. for around a year by now.
Yes, that must be why the QA department and game design didn't know about it until I reproduced it in their test environment in front of their eyes. It may have been reported as a glitch yes, we did that many times too, but not with any reproduction steps.
Originally by: Damar Rocarion Could you perhaps create a seperate thread for all the issues you have with me and PERVS, along with all the proof you have about said exploits. It would be nice to keep this thread somewhat on topic and relevant without getting all personal.
It'd be nice for the people that consider voting for you to actually know your personality. I have always been open about who I am and what my goals are on the CSM, so you should be doing the same.
First, don't turn it the other way around. I never had any issues with you or PERVS. It was you that harrassed, slandered and stalked me personally and with your alts, whenever I was logged in. It was you that applied for this CSM just to annoy me further, and to secure your own interests. Your entire business here is a personal vendetta, because you are totally obsessed with griefing me. So don't play innocent here and ask me to please bugger off, when your entire purpose here is to provoke me, starting with that slander that alt made at the top of this thread.
A lot of the time, when you speak in militia channel, it's ANKH DID THIS!!! WHAAH!. A lot of the time when you post on the forum, it's ANKH SAID THIS!!! WHAAH!. You're even using some alts in Gallente Militia to spam ANKH SHOULD SHUT UP, WHAAH! every time I say something. Every time I'm flying around with a few people and you show up in local, you can't help yourself ranting at them how ANKH IS EVIL!!! WHAAH!, sometimes these tantrum sessions last for over half an hour.
All of this is just because I was succesful and happened to be on the opposing faction, and because I wanted to make some hard-needed improvements to FW while on the CSM, which you considered a threat to your personal playstyle. Remember when I was in the Caldari Militia? Then you suddenly turned around like a leaf, being nice and helpful. Just because I had another faction icon next to my character. All of this is why I don't believe you will represent all FW players if you get on the CSM. Just the ones that are on your personal bandwagon.
You shouldn't be pretending to run on a FW platform. You should run on a "I hate Ankh and will secure my FW interests" platform. ---
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.21 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
You shouldn't be pretending to run on a FW platform. You should run on a "I hate Ankh and will secure my FW interests" platform.
This is a platform I can believe in.
+3 votes.
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.10.21 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
You shouldn't be pretending to run on a FW platform. You should run on a "I hate Ankh and will secure my FW interests" platform.
This is a platform I can believe in.
+3 votes.
Pile in guys, best platform. +5.
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.10.21 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
This is a platform I can believe in.
+3 votes.
Yes, you two are very much alike. Treat the CSM as a joke and backstab your voters, to further your own selfish agendas. Luckily your 'support', like Bad Messengers', will only show the rest of the players exactly what type of person they're dealing with. ---
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.21 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
This is a platform I can believe in.
+3 votes.
Yes, you two are very much alike. Treat the CSM as a joke and backstab your voters, to further your own selfish agendas. Luckily your 'support', like Bad Messengers', will only show the rest of the players exactly what type of person they're dealing with.
Ack ack (that is the sound of me laughing like the Penguin from Batman Returns FYI). This is as opposed to you treating the CSM like an extended job interview and forcing your personal ideals and beliefs on the community and Devs while trying to promote irrelevant and dangerous issues.
PS I was trolling. I would no sooner vote for this imbecile than I would allow an American Rendition Technician to remove my toenails.
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