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Alkania
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Posted - 2004.10.31 21:51:00 -
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Here is the 30th Ocotber attack on FU/NSA that Nemesis/Death Row and Armoured Assassin did.
Video (97Mo)
Enjoy 
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Alkania
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Posted - 2004.10.31 21:51:00 -
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Here is the 30th Ocotber attack on FU/NSA that Nemesis/Death Row and Armoured Assassin did.
Video (97Mo)
Enjoy
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crocmore
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:12:00 -
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Great movie chef :)
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crocmore
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:12:00 -
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Great movie chef :)
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:18:00 -
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Bravo mate that is an excellent video :)
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:18:00 -
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Bravo mate that is an excellent video :)
Eve Blacklight Style
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:20:00 -
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host doesnt like download accelerators :(
Nice movie :D
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:20:00 -
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host doesnt like download accelerators :(
Nice movie :D
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Heywood
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:23:00 -
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Ganks = boring
And the same music as several other films 
Otherwise good 
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Heywood
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:23:00 -
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Ganks = boring
And the same music as several other films
Otherwise good
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ICEOFDAWN
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:28:00 -
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good job on the movie m8.
And good fight to all those involved
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ICEOFDAWN
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:28:00 -
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good job on the movie m8.
And good fight to all those involved
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:35:00 -
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Awsome video again Akan..
I LUB YOU
/emote strokes Akan's corpse 
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.10.31 22:35:00 -
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Awsome video again Akan..
I LUB YOU
/emote strokes Akan's corpse
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Waldorf
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Posted - 2004.10.31 23:28:00 -
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Fantastic video, well done!
The battle round that star gate looked awesome
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Waldorf
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Posted - 2004.10.31 23:28:00 -
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Fantastic video, well done!
The battle round that star gate looked awesome
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fugazii
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Posted - 2004.10.31 23:32:00 -
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eh, the fleet battle was rly cool, 20bs vrs 1bs ganks nothing special and isnt rly movie worthy. there should be a no linkin park in movies rule, its more played out than paris hilton
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fugazii
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Posted - 2004.10.31 23:32:00 -
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eh, the fleet battle was rly cool, 20bs vrs 1bs ganks nothing special and isnt rly movie worthy. there should be a no linkin park in movies rule, its more played out than paris hilton
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2004.10.31 23:46:00 -
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Nice movie Akan. Once again great musical choice for the ending credits. First Loveboat, now this.. lol.. Classic!! 
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2004.10.31 23:46:00 -
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Nice movie Akan. Once again great musical choice for the ending credits. First Loveboat, now this.. lol.. Classic!!
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.10.31 23:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Phonix
/emote strokes Akan's corpse
I thought i told you my closet was off limits to you.... how did you get that!?
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.10.31 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Phonix
/emote strokes Akan's corpse
I thought i told you my closet was off limits to you.... how did you get that!?
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Seron327
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Posted - 2004.11.01 00:01:00 -
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Awesome movie, great job!!!
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Seron327
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Posted - 2004.11.01 00:01:00 -
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Awesome movie, great job!!!
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.11.01 00:19:00 -
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Nice little fleet battle there tho, shame about all the boring ganks :p
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.11.01 00:19:00 -
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Nice little fleet battle there tho, shame about all the boring ganks :p
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Custodian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 00:24:00 -
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What a freeking party! Great Vid as always Boss !
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Custodian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 00:24:00 -
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What a freeking party! Great Vid as always Boss !
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Xziled
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Posted - 2004.11.01 01:43:00 -
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the 3 linkin park songs ruined your video.
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Xziled
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Posted - 2004.11.01 01:43:00 -
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the 3 linkin park songs ruined your video.
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Nausea
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Posted - 2004.11.01 04:10:00 -
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nice video  shame i missed out on the action 
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Nausea
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Posted - 2004.11.01 04:10:00 -
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nice video shame i missed out on the action
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Caanan
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Posted - 2004.11.01 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Xziled
the 3 linkin park songs ruined your video.
i beg to differ
reminds me of how good Hybrid Theory is, haven't listened to it in a while
great video
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Caanan
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Posted - 2004.11.01 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Xziled
the 3 linkin park songs ruined your video.
i beg to differ
reminds me of how good Hybrid Theory is, haven't listened to it in a while
great video
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.01 04:49:00 -
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Ganks were boring but the fleet battle looked awesome. What was the total tally for kills/losses on each side?
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.01 04:49:00 -
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Ganks were boring but the fleet battle looked awesome. What was the total tally for kills/losses on each side?
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2004.11.01 06:13:00 -
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Video was excellent, but the battle was awsome. I stood and fought alongside my allies, we wernt leaving no matter what. Want to thank everyone involved for being able to participate in such an event, bust most of all Id like to thank NSA and FU for being the ones I stood shoulder to shoulder with.
LONG LIVE NSA. Boooyaah
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2004.11.01 06:13:00 -
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Video was excellent, but the battle was awsome. I stood and fought alongside my allies, we wernt leaving no matter what. Want to thank everyone involved for being able to participate in such an event, bust most of all Id like to thank NSA and FU for being the ones I stood shoulder to shoulder with.
LONG LIVE NSA. Boooyaah
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.01 06:20:00 -
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Whatever Zdragva said...... 
Good fight guys. 2 Bad i only stayed for first 20 seconds of it. Crashed
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.01 06:20:00 -
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Whatever Zdragva said......
Good fight guys. 2 Bad i only stayed for first 20 seconds of it. Crashed
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Teelmaster
Ganks were boring but the fleet battle looked awesome. What was the total tally for kills/losses on each side?
From what we managed to gather from after battle reports and killmails, it was 4 - 7 BS kills in favor of FU/NSA.
85 FU/NSA in system and 40 DIE NM ASS in gang.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Teelmaster
Ganks were boring but the fleet battle looked awesome. What was the total tally for kills/losses on each side?
From what we managed to gather from after battle reports and killmails, it was 4 - 7 BS kills in favor of FU/NSA.
85 FU/NSA in system and 40 DIE NM ASS in gang.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.01 09:30:00 -
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Did you forgot on the way up Juan
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.01 09:30:00 -
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Did you forgot on the way up Juan
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Phonix
Did you forgot on the way up Juan
Teel asked about the Fleet battle result.
Total BS kills during that op, including catching the tail of the NSA fleet as it manuevered and random FU gankings added to the fleet battle was 15-8.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Phonix
Did you forgot on the way up Juan
Teel asked about the Fleet battle result.
Total BS kills during that op, including catching the tail of the NSA fleet as it manuevered and random FU gankings added to the fleet battle was 15-8.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2004.11.01 10:44:00 -
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Sweet movie! I mean, yeah, nothing new but excellent fit with
the music (dont really care if it has been used before), good camera
work, nice quality and a good display on why fleet battles are pretty
much impossible. The lag made me feel sick.
Overall rating: GOOD+
Keep them coming!
Regards,
LOWA
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Lowa
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Posted - 2004.11.01 10:44:00 -
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Sweet movie! I mean, yeah, nothing new but excellent fit with
the music (dont really care if it has been used before), good camera
work, nice quality and a good display on why fleet battles are pretty
much impossible. The lag made me feel sick.
Overall rating: GOOD+
Keep them coming!
Regards,
LOWA
Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby! |
Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
added to the fleet battle was 15-8.
Not so sure about that, im reading killmails being posted on our forums from the same time and ganks of "your" battleships before the fleet battle. Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
All in all i heard it was a good fight and both sides where happy afterwards without any smack. well met guys.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
added to the fleet battle was 15-8.
Not so sure about that, im reading killmails being posted on our forums from the same time and ganks of "your" battleships before the fleet battle. Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
All in all i heard it was a good fight and both sides where happy afterwards without any smack. well met guys.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:11:00 -
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Quote:
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
So the kills that your frig squad makes by roaming PB are irrelevant? Or the kills you get by setting up a camp in EC-P?
Ganks just show an incompetence on the part of the one who gets ganked. If you can't get intel, read the map, react fast etc etc what is the ceptor that caught you gonna say in TS?!? "Guys i need only 1 BS to warp to me because i only caught one muppet, so flip a coin ... and hurry up cause he is nossing me"??.
Besides if you are so worried about skill counting why don't you come with exactly the same numbers to fight and tell the other half of your alliance to go mine?
Because it's stupid to give up an advantage when it's there.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:11:00 -
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Quote:
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
So the kills that your frig squad makes by roaming PB are irrelevant? Or the kills you get by setting up a camp in EC-P?
Ganks just show an incompetence on the part of the one who gets ganked. If you can't get intel, read the map, react fast etc etc what is the ceptor that caught you gonna say in TS?!? "Guys i need only 1 BS to warp to me because i only caught one muppet, so flip a coin ... and hurry up cause he is nossing me"??.
Besides if you are so worried about skill counting why don't you come with exactly the same numbers to fight and tell the other half of your alliance to go mine?
Because it's stupid to give up an advantage when it's there.
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Quote:
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
So the kills that your frig squad makes by roaming PB are irrelevant? Or the kills you get by setting up a camp in EC-P?
Ganks just show an incompetence on the part of the one who gets ganked. If you can't get intel, read the map, react fast etc etc what is the ceptor that caught you gonna say in TS?!? "Guys i need only 1 BS to warp to me because i only caught one muppet, so flip a coin ... and hurry up cause he is nossing me"??.
Besides if you are so worried about skill counting why don't you come with exactly the same numbers to fight and tell the other half of your alliance to go mine?
Because it's stupid to give up an advantage when it's there.
PWNED!!
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Quote:
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
So the kills that your frig squad makes by roaming PB are irrelevant? Or the kills you get by setting up a camp in EC-P?
Ganks just show an incompetence on the part of the one who gets ganked. If you can't get intel, read the map, react fast etc etc what is the ceptor that caught you gonna say in TS?!? "Guys i need only 1 BS to warp to me because i only caught one muppet, so flip a coin ... and hurry up cause he is nossing me"??.
Besides if you are so worried about skill counting why don't you come with exactly the same numbers to fight and tell the other half of your alliance to go mine?
Because it's stupid to give up an advantage when it's there.
PWNED!!
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Quote:
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
So the kills that your frig squad makes by roaming PB are irrelevant? Or the kills you get by setting up a camp in EC-P?
Ganks just show an incompetence on the part of the one who gets ganked. If you can't get intel, read the map, react fast etc etc what is the ceptor that caught you gonna say in TS?!? "Guys i need only 1 BS to warp to me because i only caught one muppet, so flip a coin ... and hurry up cause he is nossing me"??.
Besides if you are so worried about skill counting why don't you come with exactly the same numbers to fight and tell the other half of your alliance to go mine?
Because it's stupid to give up an advantage when it's there.
Hehe a bit upset are we? I think you greatly missed the my point. Sure both alliances gank others and if that feels like something to be proud of then fine. Both sides have pilots that are less cautious about their travel and map and end up ganked.
Im merely stating that a gank requires no particular skill, since the "fight" is over in 2 seconds. I never said it was a dissadvantage nor did i say i was worried about skill. Try reading and actually understanding before you bash a post.
Phonix, you are aware that the only one trying to create a smacktalk war is you right?
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Quote:
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
So the kills that your frig squad makes by roaming PB are irrelevant? Or the kills you get by setting up a camp in EC-P?
Ganks just show an incompetence on the part of the one who gets ganked. If you can't get intel, read the map, react fast etc etc what is the ceptor that caught you gonna say in TS?!? "Guys i need only 1 BS to warp to me because i only caught one muppet, so flip a coin ... and hurry up cause he is nossing me"??.
Besides if you are so worried about skill counting why don't you come with exactly the same numbers to fight and tell the other half of your alliance to go mine?
Because it's stupid to give up an advantage when it's there.
Hehe a bit upset are we? I think you greatly missed the my point. Sure both alliances gank others and if that feels like something to be proud of then fine. Both sides have pilots that are less cautious about their travel and map and end up ganked.
Im merely stating that a gank requires no particular skill, since the "fight" is over in 2 seconds. I never said it was a dissadvantage nor did i say i was worried about skill. Try reading and actually understanding before you bash a post.
Phonix, you are aware that the only one trying to create a smacktalk war is you right?
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Razor Jaxx on 01/11/2004 17:49:08
Edited by: Razor Jaxx on 01/11/2004 11:34:12
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
What a retarded comment. 
You can say that ganks are less spectacular / enjoyable than fleet ops, but they require intelligent planning and swift execution to be effective. Plus their no-risk, sure-reward output makes them perfect from the ganker's standpoint. That, in itself, is skill.
Also, no skill as opposed to what? Fleet battles? The only skilled operators in fleet battles are the fleet commanders and the tacklers. The rest are peons/grunts that target whom they're told to, press F1-F8, warp out when they're hit hard, and die in silence. You don't need to be a genius to participate in fleet battles. The bigger your ship is, the lower your IQ can be. Kind of like birds and cars; the bigger your car, the smaller your willie can be.
Edit : Self-edited to make the whole tone more cordial. Apologies.
Edit #2 : After letting this thread evolve, I truly believe I am now justified in reverting back to my original statement and/or wording.
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Razor Jaxx on 01/11/2004 17:49:08
Edited by: Razor Jaxx on 01/11/2004 11:34:12
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
What a retarded comment.
You can say that ganks are less spectacular / enjoyable than fleet ops, but they require intelligent planning and swift execution to be effective. Plus their no-risk, sure-reward output makes them perfect from the ganker's standpoint. That, in itself, is skill.
Also, no skill as opposed to what? Fleet battles? The only skilled operators in fleet battles are the fleet commanders and the tacklers. The rest are peons/grunts that target whom they're told to, press F1-F8, warp out when they're hit hard, and die in silence. You don't need to be a genius to participate in fleet battles. The bigger your ship is, the lower your IQ can be. Kind of like birds and cars; the bigger your car, the smaller your willie can be.
Edit : Self-edited to make the whole tone more cordial. Apologies.
Edit #2 : After letting this thread evolve, I truly believe I am now justified in reverting back to my original statement and/or wording.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 01/11/2004 11:44:52
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
What a dreadfully awfull non thought through comment.
You can say that ganks are less spectacular / enjoyable than fleet ops, but they require intelligent planning and swift execution to be effective. Plus their no-risk, sure-reward output makes them perfect from the ganker's standpoint. That, in itself, is skill.
Also, no skill as opposed to what? Fleet battles? The only skilled operators in fleet battles are the fleet commanders and the tacklers. The rest are peons/grunts that target whom they're told to, press F1-F8, warp out when they're hit hard, and die in silence. You don't need to be a genius to participate in fleet battles. The bigger your ship is, the lower your IQ can be. Kind of like birds and cars; the bigger your car, the smaller your willie can be.
I dont have a car so my willie must be huge
I see your point and to a certain degree i a agree with you, i will leave it there.
Edit: Apologies accepted
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 01/11/2004 11:44:52
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
What a dreadfully awfull non thought through comment.
You can say that ganks are less spectacular / enjoyable than fleet ops, but they require intelligent planning and swift execution to be effective. Plus their no-risk, sure-reward output makes them perfect from the ganker's standpoint. That, in itself, is skill.
Also, no skill as opposed to what? Fleet battles? The only skilled operators in fleet battles are the fleet commanders and the tacklers. The rest are peons/grunts that target whom they're told to, press F1-F8, warp out when they're hit hard, and die in silence. You don't need to be a genius to participate in fleet battles. The bigger your ship is, the lower your IQ can be. Kind of like birds and cars; the bigger your car, the smaller your willie can be.
I dont have a car so my willie must be huge
I see your point and to a certain degree i a agree with you, i will leave it there.
Edit: Apologies accepted
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:34:00 -
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Ganks: meh (but I guess every vid will always have some as filler... but none should include cruiser kills at this day and age)
Music: ban Linkin Park! (the ending credits tune was good though)
Fleet fight: looked like a lot of fun, but the way it was captured and edited made it hard to see what was going on.
Still, keep 'em coming!
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:34:00 -
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Ganks: meh (but I guess every vid will always have some as filler... but none should include cruiser kills at this day and age)
Music: ban Linkin Park! (the ending credits tune was good though)
Fleet fight: looked like a lot of fun, but the way it was captured and edited made it hard to see what was going on.
Still, keep 'em coming!
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Hehe a bit upset are we? I think you greatly missed the my point. Sure both alliances gank others and if that feels like something to be proud of then fine. Both sides have pilots that are less cautious about their travel and map and end up ganked.
Im merely stating that a gank requires no particular skill, since the "fight" is over in 2 seconds. I never said it was a dissadvantage nor did i say i was worried about skill. Try reading and actually understanding before you bash a post.
Phonix, you are aware that the only one trying to create a smacktalk war is you right?
1) The only thing that makes me upset is running out of Lucky Strikes while playing EVE.
2) You made a blank statement that was completely of the mark.
You said Quote:
Anyway, Ganks really don't matter as their is no skill in it.
You said that in responce to my comment on the total tally of BS kills during Friday. So pray tell how do you read into this? You are either trying to state something about what kills should count or not or you a making complete random nonsense comments.
3) Now you say that you are not concerned about skill... yet you said that something doesn't matter because there is no skill in it.
4) Seems my explanation about ganks didn't satisfy you so i will try again... what do you have to say about moving the force fast and in good order, having skilled scouts, scanners up ahead and pilots who can keep a BS that has antifrig defences scrambled and BS pilots that will lose little time getting to the mark?
5) If you want to avoid being argued back make better statements.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Hehe a bit upset are we? I think you greatly missed the my point. Sure both alliances gank others and if that feels like something to be proud of then fine. Both sides have pilots that are less cautious about their travel and map and end up ganked.
Im merely stating that a gank requires no particular skill, since the "fight" is over in 2 seconds. I never said it was a dissadvantage nor did i say i was worried about skill. Try reading and actually understanding before you bash a post.
Phonix, you are aware that the only one trying to create a smacktalk war is you right?
1) The only thing that makes me upset is running out of Lucky Strikes while playing EVE.
2) You made a blank statement that was completely of the mark.
You said Quote:
Anyway, Ganks really don't matter as their is no skill in it.
You said that in responce to my comment on the total tally of BS kills during Friday. So pray tell how do you read into this? You are either trying to state something about what kills should count or not or you a making complete random nonsense comments.
3) Now you say that you are not concerned about skill... yet you said that something doesn't matter because there is no skill in it.
4) Seems my explanation about ganks didn't satisfy you so i will try again... what do you have to say about moving the force fast and in good order, having skilled scouts, scanners up ahead and pilots who can keep a BS that has antifrig defences scrambled and BS pilots that will lose little time getting to the mark?
5) If you want to avoid being argued back make better statements.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
1) The only thing that makes me upset is running out of Lucky Strikes while playing EVE.
There we agree.
Quote:
2) You made a blank statement that was completely of the mark.
You said Quote:
Anyway, Ganks really don't matter as their is no skill in it.
You said that in responce to my comment on the total tally of BS kills during Friday. So pray tell how do you read into this? You are either trying to state something about what kills should count or not or you a making complete random nonsense comments.
3) Now you say that you are not concerned about skill... yet you said that something doesn't matter because there is no skill in it.
Yes you are right, if we where only talking tally then you could include the ganks around, before and after. if someone wants a fleet battle statistic i usually give them the info about how many ships where lost during the actual fleet battle, but since you wanted to add ganked lone bs kills then i chose to imply that we had indeed had some aswell. If see no wrong in that?
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4) Seems my explanation about ganks didn't satisfy you so i will try again... what do you have to say about moving the force fast and in good order, having skilled scouts, scanners up ahead and pilots who can keep a BS that has antifrig defences scrambled and BS pilots that will lose little time getting to the mark?
20 frigs with warp scrambers and 10 scorps with jamming, a field day if your target cant shoot back or only has 2 seconds to shoot back, it dosnt matter. keeping someone tackled isnt ganking imo. using 20 battleships to kill one is. If you see it differently then sure, you will find that alot of ppl see ganking differently. Ive heard ppl saying the got ganked by 2 battleships, its all a matter of perspective.
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5) If you want to avoid being argued back make better statements.
i can argue all day, did your last statement have any relevance at all besides trying to provoke me?
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
1) The only thing that makes me upset is running out of Lucky Strikes while playing EVE.
There we agree.
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2) You made a blank statement that was completely of the mark.
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Anyway, Ganks really don't matter as their is no skill in it.
You said that in responce to my comment on the total tally of BS kills during Friday. So pray tell how do you read into this? You are either trying to state something about what kills should count or not or you a making complete random nonsense comments.
3) Now you say that you are not concerned about skill... yet you said that something doesn't matter because there is no skill in it.
Yes you are right, if we where only talking tally then you could include the ganks around, before and after. if someone wants a fleet battle statistic i usually give them the info about how many ships where lost during the actual fleet battle, but since you wanted to add ganked lone bs kills then i chose to imply that we had indeed had some aswell. If see no wrong in that?
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4) Seems my explanation about ganks didn't satisfy you so i will try again... what do you have to say about moving the force fast and in good order, having skilled scouts, scanners up ahead and pilots who can keep a BS that has antifrig defences scrambled and BS pilots that will lose little time getting to the mark?
20 frigs with warp scrambers and 10 scorps with jamming, a field day if your target cant shoot back or only has 2 seconds to shoot back, it dosnt matter. keeping someone tackled isnt ganking imo. using 20 battleships to kill one is. If you see it differently then sure, you will find that alot of ppl see ganking differently. Ive heard ppl saying the got ganked by 2 battleships, its all a matter of perspective.
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5) If you want to avoid being argued back make better statements.
i can argue all day, did your last statement have any relevance at all besides trying to provoke me?
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Posted - 2004.11.01 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 01/11/2004 12:19:12
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Yes you are right, if we where only talking tally then you could include the ganks around, before and after. if someone wants a fleet battle statistic i usually give them the info about how many ships where lost during the actual fleet battle, but since you wanted to add ganked lone bs kills then i chose to imply that we had indeed had some aswell. If see no wrong in that?
I did both. Check my post that quoted Teelmaster. Then check my post quoting Phonix.
To my knowledge the only BS ganked prior to fleet battle was LENO of Death Row Inc. FU frig/cruiser fleet caught him.
After the fleet battle everyone posted in gang chat their deathmails. 7 BS 1-2 support. 7 + 1 (Leno) = 8. If my numbers are inaccurate then it can only be for the fleet battle, but i think everyone reported their BS loss and corp members reported losses for people who had been disconnected. Can never be 100% sure.
You however seem to dispute the numbers without coming back with any numbers of your own... nor do you seem to mind that you admitted that you weren't even present during those operations.
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20 frigs with warp scrambers and 10 scorps with jamming, a field day if your target cant shoot back or only has 2 seconds to shoot back, it dosnt matter. keeping someone tackled isnt ganking imo. using 20 battleships to kill one is. If you see it differently then sure, you will find that alot of ppl see ganking differently. Ive heard ppl saying the got ganked by 2 battleships, its all a matter of perspective.
You still fail to understand that whatever skill is involved in the gank concerns the stages before the MASS of the BSs arrives in the same grid as the ship to be ganked.
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i can argue all day, did your last statement have any relevance at all besides trying to provoke me?
Yes it did, you identified my counter arguments to you statement about ganks not mattering because of skill as bashing, you also implied that i as upset.
So i will say it one more time since you still seem to not get it, if you don't want to be argued back make sound remarks.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 01/11/2004 12:19:12
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Yes you are right, if we where only talking tally then you could include the ganks around, before and after. if someone wants a fleet battle statistic i usually give them the info about how many ships where lost during the actual fleet battle, but since you wanted to add ganked lone bs kills then i chose to imply that we had indeed had some aswell. If see no wrong in that?
I did both. Check my post that quoted Teelmaster. Then check my post quoting Phonix.
To my knowledge the only BS ganked prior to fleet battle was LENO of Death Row Inc. FU frig/cruiser fleet caught him.
After the fleet battle everyone posted in gang chat their deathmails. 7 BS 1-2 support. 7 + 1 (Leno) = 8. If my numbers are inaccurate then it can only be for the fleet battle, but i think everyone reported their BS loss and corp members reported losses for people who had been disconnected. Can never be 100% sure.
You however seem to dispute the numbers without coming back with any numbers of your own... nor do you seem to mind that you admitted that you weren't even present during those operations.
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20 frigs with warp scrambers and 10 scorps with jamming, a field day if your target cant shoot back or only has 2 seconds to shoot back, it dosnt matter. keeping someone tackled isnt ganking imo. using 20 battleships to kill one is. If you see it differently then sure, you will find that alot of ppl see ganking differently. Ive heard ppl saying the got ganked by 2 battleships, its all a matter of perspective.
You still fail to understand that whatever skill is involved in the gank concerns the stages before the MASS of the BSs arrives in the same grid as the ship to be ganked.
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i can argue all day, did your last statement have any relevance at all besides trying to provoke me?
Yes it did, you identified my counter arguments to you statement about ganks not mattering because of skill as bashing, you also implied that i as upset.
So i will say it one more time since you still seem to not get it, if you don't want to be argued back make sound remarks.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 01/11/2004 12:35:07
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 01/11/2004 12:19:12
I did both. Check my post that quoted Teelmaster. Then check my post quoting Phonix.
To my knowledge the only BS ganked prior to fleet battle was LENO of Death Row Inc. FU frig/cruiser fleet caught him.
After the fleet battle everyone posted in gang chat their deathmails. 7 BS 1-2 support. 7 + 1 (Leno) = 8. If my numbers are inaccurate then it can only be for the fleet battle, but i think everyone reported their BS loss and corp members reported losses for people who had been disconnected. Can never be 100% sure.
You however seem to dispute the numbers without coming back with any numbers of your own... nor do you seem to mind that you admitted that you weren't even present during those operations.
Well since all killmails where not purely FU and all killmails have yet to be posted thus i chose not to give you any count since no kill count had been posted on the forums. would you want me rather to bring a bogus number just for the sake of having numbers of my own or would you want me to check first?
As i said, i was reading the killmails that where posted and stated that the numbers might change since killmails where posted and it apeared to be ganks around the area aswell.
No i was not there since i was working/sleeping. Does that matter? nobody seemed to have posted any acurate kill/loss on the forums nor any of the involed players i talked to. if you ask them they would give you the same answer as you got from me, they dont know, the NSA and FU fleet didnt post all kills in gangchat after the battle.
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You still fail to understand that whatever skill is involved in the gank concerns the stages before the MASS of the BSs arrives in the same grid as the ship to be ganked.
Is not that more considered tackling?
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Yes it did, you identified my counter arguments to you statement about ganks not mattering because of skill as bashing, you also implied that i as upset.
So i will say it one more time since you still seem to not get it, if you don't want to be argued back make sound remarks.
Does it look like i mind my dear sir?
your pointless repetetive remark "if you don't want to be argued back make sound remarks" is getting old and still does not have anything to do with the discussion. If your first post was not intent as bashing of my statement(?) then fine, i take whatever "i got bashed" statement back.
Again, its all a matter of perspective.
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Posted - 2004.11.01 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 01/11/2004 12:35:07
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 01/11/2004 12:19:12
I did both. Check my post that quoted Teelmaster. Then check my post quoting Phonix.
To my knowledge the only BS ganked prior to fleet battle was LENO of Death Row Inc. FU frig/cruiser fleet caught him.
After the fleet battle everyone posted in gang chat their deathmails. 7 BS 1-2 support. 7 + 1 (Leno) = 8. If my numbers are inaccurate then it can only be for the fleet battle, but i think everyone reported their BS loss and corp members reported losses for people who had been disconnected. Can never be 100% sure.
You however seem to dispute the numbers without coming back with any numbers of your own... nor do you seem to mind that you admitted that you weren't even present during those operations.
Well since all killmails where not purely FU and all killmails have yet to be posted thus i chose not to give you any count since no kill count had been posted on the forums. would you want me rather to bring a bogus number just for the sake of having numbers of my own or would you want me to check first?
As i said, i was reading the killmails that where posted and stated that the numbers might change since killmails where posted and it apeared to be ganks around the area aswell.
No i was not there since i was working/sleeping. Does that matter? nobody seemed to have posted any acurate kill/loss on the forums nor any of the involed players i talked to. if you ask them they would give you the same answer as you got from me, they dont know, the NSA and FU fleet didnt post all kills in gangchat after the battle.
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You still fail to understand that whatever skill is involved in the gank concerns the stages before the MASS of the BSs arrives in the same grid as the ship to be ganked.
Is not that more considered tackling?
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Yes it did, you identified my counter arguments to you statement about ganks not mattering because of skill as bashing, you also implied that i as upset.
So i will say it one more time since you still seem to not get it, if you don't want to be argued back make sound remarks.
Does it look like i mind my dear sir?
your pointless repetetive remark "if you don't want to be argued back make sound remarks" is getting old and still does not have anything to do with the discussion. If your first post was not intent as bashing of my statement(?) then fine, i take whatever "i got bashed" statement back.
Again, its all a matter of perspective.
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Posted - 2004.11.01 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 01/11/2004 13:04:12
Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 01/11/2004 13:02:28
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Well since all killmails where not purely FU and all killmails have yet to be posted thus i chose not to give you any count since no kill count had been posted on the forums. would you want me rather to bring a bogus number just for the sake of having numbers of my own or would you want me to check first?
Yet you had no problems disputing the original headcount without actually checking the numbers first...
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Is not that more considered tackling?
I made a whole paragraph in my second post to you about the whole operation of the gank squad. Anything i had to say on this topic lies therein and also in what Razor Jaxx said.
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Does it look like i mind my dear sir?
Yes, when you describe an attempt to argue back as bashing, make implications on someone's mood based on a single forum post it shows me you have absolutely no clue what an argument is, it also shows me that you come in here expecting to be flamed which to be honest i find insulting. Hence my, if you don't want to be argued back make sound statements comment.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 01/11/2004 13:04:12
Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 01/11/2004 13:02:28
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Well since all killmails where not purely FU and all killmails have yet to be posted thus i chose not to give you any count since no kill count had been posted on the forums. would you want me rather to bring a bogus number just for the sake of having numbers of my own or would you want me to check first?
Yet you had no problems disputing the original headcount without actually checking the numbers first...
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Is not that more considered tackling?
I made a whole paragraph in my second post to you about the whole operation of the gank squad. Anything i had to say on this topic lies therein and also in what Razor Jaxx said.
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Does it look like i mind my dear sir?
Yes, when you describe an attempt to argue back as bashing, make implications on someone's mood based on a single forum post it shows me you have absolutely no clue what an argument is, it also shows me that you come in here expecting to be flamed which to be honest i find insulting. Hence my, if you don't want to be argued back make sound statements comment.
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vete
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Posted - 2004.11.01 13:07:00 -
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hurz?
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vete
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Posted - 2004.11.01 13:07:00 -
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hurz?
hurz |
Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2004.11.01 13:54:00 -
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Juan Andalusian and Kyogen Steiner if you keep this up the thread will be locked. I don't mind but if i was the creator of this video/thread i would be ****ed if it happened.
Now about the movie. I thought the movie was good, it didnt bother me that much with the ganks. Maybe make the movie 2-3 mins shorter so the viewer don't skip to the end just to see the fleet battle. Put in more action from the fleetbattles and try to think about camera angle and what you are looking at when frapsing(its hard because you prolly got more important things to think about when in a fleet battle )
You get 3 bananas of 5 possible for the movie
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2004.11.01 13:54:00 -
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Juan Andalusian and Kyogen Steiner if you keep this up the thread will be locked. I don't mind but if i was the creator of this video/thread i would be ****ed if it happened.
Now about the movie. I thought the movie was good, it didnt bother me that much with the ganks. Maybe make the movie 2-3 mins shorter so the viewer don't skip to the end just to see the fleet battle. Put in more action from the fleetbattles and try to think about camera angle and what you are looking at when frapsing(its hard because you prolly got more important things to think about when in a fleet battle)
You get 3 bananas of 5 possible for the movie
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:01:00 -
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The movie was great, I have just one remark..
The movie gave the impression that the invaders warped to our gatecamp and valiantly engaged NSA/FU with smaller numbers... the movie didn't catch the start of the battle where NSA warped to the gatecamp, and engaged/killed the invaders made them run... only for them to return a few minutes later with dimished numbers...
It doesn't matter a lot but would have been nice to see all the stages of the fleet battle.
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:01:00 -
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The movie was great, I have just one remark..
The movie gave the impression that the invaders warped to our gatecamp and valiantly engaged NSA/FU with smaller numbers... the movie didn't catch the start of the battle where NSA warped to the gatecamp, and engaged/killed the invaders made them run... only for them to return a few minutes later with dimished numbers...
It doesn't matter a lot but would have been nice to see all the stages of the fleet battle.
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 01/11/2004 14:05:47
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Yet you had no problems disputing the original headcount without actually checking the numbers first...
Actually there where some numbers posted and mentioned on our boards, but they where incomplete and differed alot from yours. So when you posted yours i disputed that it might differ a bit, where do you see a problem with that?
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Yes, when you describe an attempt to argue back as bashing, make implications on someone's mood based on a single forum post it shows me you have absolutely no clue what an argument is, it also shows me that you come in here expecting to be flamed which to be honest i find insulting. Hence my, if you don't want to be argued back make sound statements comment.
Whats more interesting is that your are actually doing the same thing now. You are GUESSING my mood and GUESSING that i came in with the intention of being insulted. Your shooting in a glashouse now. Lets not go there
If i was afraid to argue, i wouldnt post at all. If i had no idea what an argument was i wouldnt argue with you now.
Pehova is right (damn you) however. Out of respect to the topic creator i dont want this thread locked, as i did enjoy the movie (especially the movie angles and the fleet battle) and the mods to have a habit of locking threads because of topic irrellevant disussions.
If you wish to continiue this discussion, please look me up ingame and we can discuss more, i have a few more things i want to talk about but ill leave that out of the thread.
Unless you want to continiue anyway?
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 01/11/2004 14:05:47
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Yet you had no problems disputing the original headcount without actually checking the numbers first...
Actually there where some numbers posted and mentioned on our boards, but they where incomplete and differed alot from yours. So when you posted yours i disputed that it might differ a bit, where do you see a problem with that?
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Yes, when you describe an attempt to argue back as bashing, make implications on someone's mood based on a single forum post it shows me you have absolutely no clue what an argument is, it also shows me that you come in here expecting to be flamed which to be honest i find insulting. Hence my, if you don't want to be argued back make sound statements comment.
Whats more interesting is that your are actually doing the same thing now. You are GUESSING my mood and GUESSING that i came in with the intention of being insulted. Your shooting in a glashouse now. Lets not go there
If i was afraid to argue, i wouldnt post at all. If i had no idea what an argument was i wouldnt argue with you now.
Pehova is right (damn you) however. Out of respect to the topic creator i dont want this thread locked, as i did enjoy the movie (especially the movie angles and the fleet battle) and the mods to have a habit of locking threads because of topic irrellevant disussions.
If you wish to continiue this discussion, please look me up ingame and we can discuss more, i have a few more things i want to talk about but ill leave that out of the thread.
Unless you want to continiue anyway?
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Evecrumble
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:07:00 -
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That movie was Funk to the Y !!! Cant belive i missed it 
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Evecrumble
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:07:00 -
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That movie was Funk to the Y !!! Cant belive i missed it
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:35:00 -
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GUESSING that i came in with the intention of being insulted.
I ain't guessing anything, you cried "bash" the minute someone argued against your sily gank statement.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:35:00 -
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GUESSING that i came in with the intention of being insulted.
I ain't guessing anything, you cried "bash" the minute someone argued against your sily gank statement.
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Leno
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
added to the fleet battle was 15-8.
Not so sure about that, im reading killmails being posted on our forums from the same time and ganks of "your" battleships before the fleet battle. Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
All in all i heard it was a good fight and both sides where happy afterwards without any smack. well met guys.
see how he added 1, thats b/c i was a noob and got my scorp ganked by the FU crusier/frig fleet. That was the only gank u guys got, however I got one of your scorps and several frigs on the way up (with 1 thorax and crow helping of course). So at least I didnt get gainked in vain.
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Leno
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Posted - 2004.11.01 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
added to the fleet battle was 15-8.
Not so sure about that, im reading killmails being posted on our forums from the same time and ganks of "your" battleships before the fleet battle. Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
All in all i heard it was a good fight and both sides where happy afterwards without any smack. well met guys.
see how he added 1, thats b/c i was a noob and got my scorp ganked by the FU crusier/frig fleet. That was the only gank u guys got, however I got one of your scorps and several frigs on the way up (with 1 thorax and crow helping of course). So at least I didnt get gainked in vain.
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
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GUESSING that i came in with the intention of being insulted.
I ain't guessing anything, you cried "bash" the minute someone argued against your sily gank statement.
ah well
Are you really trying to make a point anymore? As amusing as i find this you can think i cried as much as you want, your still guessing and not getting anywhere.
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someone's mood based on a single forum post it shows me you have absolutely no clue what an argument is
No your absolutely right, and right now we are only.......
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it also shows me that you come in here expecting to be flamed which to be honest i find insulting.
here you again guess that i come in expecting to be flamed. You have no idea what i expect when i post something hence your statement is way of.
Let me ask you this, what mentality did you come into this discussion with, to discuss or to get your point across?
we can bicker about this all day and night if you want, its your choice to spam your own corp mates post with a useless discussion about whos wrong and whos right that has nothing to do with the original post.
Do you wish to discuss this ingame or do you want to lock this topic? Im giving you a chance to actually air your opinions in a convo instead of a forum.
Your call juan
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
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GUESSING that i came in with the intention of being insulted.
I ain't guessing anything, you cried "bash" the minute someone argued against your sily gank statement.
ah well
Are you really trying to make a point anymore? As amusing as i find this you can think i cried as much as you want, your still guessing and not getting anywhere.
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someone's mood based on a single forum post it shows me you have absolutely no clue what an argument is
No your absolutely right, and right now we are only.......
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it also shows me that you come in here expecting to be flamed which to be honest i find insulting.
here you again guess that i come in expecting to be flamed. You have no idea what i expect when i post something hence your statement is way of.
Let me ask you this, what mentality did you come into this discussion with, to discuss or to get your point across?
we can bicker about this all day and night if you want, its your choice to spam your own corp mates post with a useless discussion about whos wrong and whos right that has nothing to do with the original post.
Do you wish to discuss this ingame or do you want to lock this topic? Im giving you a chance to actually air your opinions in a convo instead of a forum.
Your call juan
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
added to the fleet battle was 15-8.
Not so sure about that, im reading killmails being posted on our forums from the same time and ganks of "your" battleships before the fleet battle. Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
All in all i heard it was a good fight and both sides where happy afterwards without any smack. well met guys.
see how he added 1, thats b/c i was a noob and got my scorp ganked by the FU crusier/frig fleet. That was the only gank u guys got, however I got one of your scorps and several frigs on the way up (with 1 thorax and crow helping of course). So at least I didnt get gainked in vain.
yes i know leno, we still have to check our killmails and NSA¦s before we can actually be sure though, again, better check everything before we post the killstats we have right? are you 100% sure that none from nem, ass, die got ganked besides you?
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
added to the fleet battle was 15-8.
Not so sure about that, im reading killmails being posted on our forums from the same time and ganks of "your" battleships before the fleet battle. Anyway, Ganks really dont matter as there is no skill in it.
All in all i heard it was a good fight and both sides where happy afterwards without any smack. well met guys.
see how he added 1, thats b/c i was a noob and got my scorp ganked by the FU crusier/frig fleet. That was the only gank u guys got, however I got one of your scorps and several frigs on the way up (with 1 thorax and crow helping of course). So at least I didnt get gainked in vain.
yes i know leno, we still have to check our killmails and NSA¦s before we can actually be sure though, again, better check everything before we post the killstats we have right? are you 100% sure that none from nem, ass, die got ganked besides you?
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
are you 100% sure that none from nem, ass, die got ganked besides you?
Astr was ganked at the stargate to AGG in LEK while the fleet warped after Domunus (sp?) who had just accepted gang invite, NSA fleet came in as the fleet was half in warp rest aligning, Astr was not quick enough.
This kill was counted in the fleet battle score.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:19:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
are you 100% sure that none from nem, ass, die got ganked besides you?
Astr was ganked at the stargate to AGG in LEK while the fleet warped after Domunus (sp?) who had just accepted gang invite, NSA fleet came in as the fleet was half in warp rest aligning, Astr was not quick enough.
This kill was counted in the fleet battle score.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Do you wish to discuss this ingame or do you want to lock this topic? Im giving you a chance to actually air your opinions in a convo instead of a forum.
My opinions were aired mate. What difference does an ingame convo make when you clearly can't argue like a sane person or at least accept some points that have been argued extensively?
You start off by making an absurd statement, ditch the subject after being argued by 2 people and a measly attempt at nitpicking around terminology.
You then switch the discusion to disputing kill reports, when you have stated that you weren't there and have no clear numbers yet (3 days after).
And finally you try to turn around your pathetic attempt to present my reply to you as some sort of flame/bash.
You know what... i honestly wonder if Phonix had not posted that PWNED comment what your reply would have been.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Do you wish to discuss this ingame or do you want to lock this topic? Im giving you a chance to actually air your opinions in a convo instead of a forum.
My opinions were aired mate. What difference does an ingame convo make when you clearly can't argue like a sane person or at least accept some points that have been argued extensively?
You start off by making an absurd statement, ditch the subject after being argued by 2 people and a measly attempt at nitpicking around terminology.
You then switch the discusion to disputing kill reports, when you have stated that you weren't there and have no clear numbers yet (3 days after).
And finally you try to turn around your pathetic attempt to present my reply to you as some sort of flame/bash.
You know what... i honestly wonder if Phonix had not posted that PWNED comment what your reply would have been.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:29:00 -
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ok, but im talking about the ganks around and before/after the fleet battle. ie i was wondering if the 15-8 bs kills was correct since i handt reviewed the killmails yet and been given several different scores.
it must have been Khal Dominicus? <-- (sp?) or?
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:29:00 -
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ok, but im talking about the ganks around and before/after the fleet battle. ie i was wondering if the 15-8 bs kills was correct since i handt reviewed the killmails yet and been given several different scores.
it must have been Khal Dominicus? <-- (sp?) or?
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:34:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
ok, but im talking about the ganks around and before/after the fleet battle. ie i was wondering if the 15-8 bs kills was correct since i handt reviewed the killmails yet and been given several different scores.
it must have been Khal Dominicus? <-- (sp?) or?
After the fleet battle (i.e. the next day since we all logged) i can only speak of Nemesis which lost 2 Ravens + 1 Apoc (reported). Don't know what DIE and ASS did.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
ok, but im talking about the ganks around and before/after the fleet battle. ie i was wondering if the 15-8 bs kills was correct since i handt reviewed the killmails yet and been given several different scores.
it must have been Khal Dominicus? <-- (sp?) or?
After the fleet battle (i.e. the next day since we all logged) i can only speak of Nemesis which lost 2 Ravens + 1 Apoc (reported). Don't know what DIE and ASS did.
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Vardofire
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xziled
the 3 linkin park songs ruined your video.
I concur.
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Vardofire
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xziled
the 3 linkin park songs ruined your video.
I concur.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
My opinions were aired mate. What difference does an ingame convo make when you clearly can't argue like a sane person or at least accept some points that have been argued extensively?
Amd what determins a sane person to you? Is a person only insane if he does not accept or agree with you? I did agree with some points, but i also said that it was a matter of perspective, im sure you understand that people have the right to dissagree, or isnt that discussion for you?
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You then switch the discusion to disputing kill reports, when you have stated that you weren't there and have no clear numbers yet (3 days after).
Its not my fault people are lazy with posting killmails, nor the fact that killmails wherent shared with NSA? Are you trying to discredit me for not being there?
look bro, when killmails get posted, i expect them to be true, i dont have to be everywhere to confirm all losses if they take the time to post them on the forums. its about trust.
One thing you learn in this game is that people see truth and especially fleetbattle losses VERY different. A prime example was a fight in u-q when a stain fleet had been smashed and the commander shouted out that we had no losses. and all of a sudden you started hearing ppl saying in TS that they had lost their BS, and quite a few i might add.
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And finally you try to turn around your pathetic attempt to present my reply to you as some sort of flame/bash.
It suprises me that someone who tries to lecture me about arguing like a sane person throws out o word like pathetic in a wording like that. Grow up man, your "sane discussion technique" is flawed and i actually expected more from you than that.
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You know what... i honestly wonder if Phonix had not posted that PWNED comment what your reply would have been.
Well i would have removed my last comment about Phonix wanting to start a flamewar... thats about it
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
My opinions were aired mate. What difference does an ingame convo make when you clearly can't argue like a sane person or at least accept some points that have been argued extensively?
Amd what determins a sane person to you? Is a person only insane if he does not accept or agree with you? I did agree with some points, but i also said that it was a matter of perspective, im sure you understand that people have the right to dissagree, or isnt that discussion for you?
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You then switch the discusion to disputing kill reports, when you have stated that you weren't there and have no clear numbers yet (3 days after).
Its not my fault people are lazy with posting killmails, nor the fact that killmails wherent shared with NSA? Are you trying to discredit me for not being there?
look bro, when killmails get posted, i expect them to be true, i dont have to be everywhere to confirm all losses if they take the time to post them on the forums. its about trust.
One thing you learn in this game is that people see truth and especially fleetbattle losses VERY different. A prime example was a fight in u-q when a stain fleet had been smashed and the commander shouted out that we had no losses. and all of a sudden you started hearing ppl saying in TS that they had lost their BS, and quite a few i might add.
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And finally you try to turn around your pathetic attempt to present my reply to you as some sort of flame/bash.
It suprises me that someone who tries to lecture me about arguing like a sane person throws out o word like pathetic in a wording like that. Grow up man, your "sane discussion technique" is flawed and i actually expected more from you than that.
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You know what... i honestly wonder if Phonix had not posted that PWNED comment what your reply would have been.
Well i would have removed my last comment about Phonix wanting to start a flamewar... thats about it
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Alkania
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Posted - 2004.11.01 16:11:00 -
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plz u guys stop to speak about all this, plz if u want to debate about it do it ingame.
Juan plz do not answer anymore, we all know what happened so no need to speak anymore if some have other point of view...
Cheers
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Alkania
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Posted - 2004.11.01 16:11:00 -
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plz u guys stop to speak about all this, plz if u want to debate about it do it ingame.
Juan plz do not answer anymore, we all know what happened so no need to speak anymore if some have other point of view...
Cheers
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Alkania
plz u guys stop to speak about all this, plz if u want to debate about it do it ingame.
Juan plz do not answer anymore, we all know what happened so no need to speak anymore if some have other point of view...
Cheers
ok
great movie loved the camera work, keep em comming.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.11.01 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Alkania
plz u guys stop to speak about all this, plz if u want to debate about it do it ingame.
Juan plz do not answer anymore, we all know what happened so no need to speak anymore if some have other point of view...
Cheers
ok
great movie loved the camera work, keep em comming.
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Mica'lov
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Posted - 2004.11.01 16:39:00 -
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Nice vid good footage and music.linkin park nuff said 
pls make a -NM- ceptor video next pls THATS soemthing i wanna see fought some of your ceptor pilots and they are very good so would proberly make a exilent movie.
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Mica'lov
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Posted - 2004.11.01 16:39:00 -
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Nice vid good footage and music.linkin park nuff said
pls make a -NM- ceptor video next pls THATS soemthing i wanna see fought some of your ceptor pilots and they are very good so would proberly make a exilent movie.
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Psychopath
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Posted - 2004.11.01 16:52:00 -
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Nice
A Corp 1 pirate I was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the sea |
Psychopath
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Posted - 2004.11.01 16:52:00 -
[110]
Nice
A Corp 1 pirate I was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the sea |
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2004.11.01 17:46:00 -
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Good movie.
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2004.11.01 17:46:00 -
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Good movie.
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2004.11.01 19:34:00 -
[113]
The movie sucked, I lub it.
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2004.11.01 19:34:00 -
[114]
The movie sucked, I lub it.
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Raeff
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Posted - 2004.11.01 20:58:00 -
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im not totally sure of the final kill count, i only got the mail for 2 of the kills myself .. BS kills sounds bout right though .. as for support ships, i got no idea .. almost got to add my geddon to the count though but i guess we had destroyed most of your tacklers/support by then since i was able to warp out .. crazy lag though, took like 15 seconds to turn my 2.5 second rof mega pulses off |
Raeff
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Posted - 2004.11.01 20:58:00 -
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im not totally sure of the final kill count, i only got the mail for 2 of the kills myself .. BS kills sounds bout right though .. as for support ships, i got no idea .. almost got to add my geddon to the count though but i guess we had destroyed most of your tacklers/support by then since i was able to warp out .. crazy lag though, took like 15 seconds to turn my 2.5 second rof mega pulses off |
Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 21:15:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Mica'lov
Nice vid good footage and music.linkin park nuff said
pls make a -NM- ceptor video next pls THATS soemthing i wanna see fought some of your ceptor pilots and they are very good so would proberly make a exilent movie.
We've done a couple of inty/assault frig raids but Akan was only in the last one which wasn't the most productive one.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.01 21:15:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Mica'lov
Nice vid good footage and music.linkin park nuff said
pls make a -NM- ceptor video next pls THATS soemthing i wanna see fought some of your ceptor pilots and they are very good so would proberly make a exilent movie.
We've done a couple of inty/assault frig raids but Akan was only in the last one which wasn't the most productive one.
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Alkania
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Posted - 2004.11.01 22:55:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Originally by: Mica'lov
Nice vid good footage and music.linkin park nuff said
pls make a -NM- ceptor video next pls THATS soemthing i wanna see fought some of your ceptor pilots and they are very good so would proberly make a exilent movie.
We've done a couple of inty/assault frig raids but Akan was only in the last one which wasn't the most productive one.
atm im a bit busy with the "timbuktu girls asses list" so im not able to play too much
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Alkania
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Posted - 2004.11.01 22:55:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Originally by: Mica'lov
Nice vid good footage and music.linkin park nuff said
pls make a -NM- ceptor video next pls THATS soemthing i wanna see fought some of your ceptor pilots and they are very good so would proberly make a exilent movie.
We've done a couple of inty/assault frig raids but Akan was only in the last one which wasn't the most productive one.
atm im a bit busy with the "timbuktu girls asses list" so im not able to play too much
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2004.11.01 23:29:00 -
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gr8 movie and great fight guys
Cookies 4tw *\o/*
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2004.11.01 23:29:00 -
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gr8 movie and great fight guys
Cookies 4tw *\o/*
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Lord Cyric
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Posted - 2004.11.02 06:43:00 -
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It was a great movie, and the fight was awesome, even though I only got there about halfway through. I will give you guys props because when I came in it definately looked like you were outnumbered.
I think we can make an arguement that fleet battles take more skill than ganks, because think about it, in fleet battles you have to be able to read names and right click-lock target the actual name that corresponds with the name the fleet commander calls out. With ganks you only need to be able to target the person that doens't have the nice purple bar next to his name. Let's be honest though, jamming multiple battleships, knowing the right time to turn off your missiles and start shooting the next guy, etc. can at least be chalked up as a little skill. Not much but a little, and I think you've already conceded that the fleet commander can easily effect the outcome of the battles depending on how skilled he is or is not.
I believe running around in fleets of 20 frigs ganking enemy bs's requires very little skill as well, but it is part of the game. Just as having battleships at a safespot ready to warp in if your scouts call for them is part of the game. I'm sure both sides will continue to use said tactics. However, to gank another person with overwhelming odds/numbers doesn't take much skill in my book, maybe good planning but not much skill. You could also potentially say that making sure you don't get ganked yourself might take skill, but that's not the actual event of ganking the single ship that comes through, that's somethign else entirely. These are just my thoughts, and maybe you'll disagree who knows.
Back on topic, it was a good movie, I enjoyed it, and I think we all look forward to making more movies together in the future. Cya in space...
Cyric
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Lord Cyric
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Posted - 2004.11.02 06:43:00 -
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It was a great movie, and the fight was awesome, even though I only got there about halfway through. I will give you guys props because when I came in it definately looked like you were outnumbered.
I think we can make an arguement that fleet battles take more skill than ganks, because think about it, in fleet battles you have to be able to read names and right click-lock target the actual name that corresponds with the name the fleet commander calls out. With ganks you only need to be able to target the person that doens't have the nice purple bar next to his name. Let's be honest though, jamming multiple battleships, knowing the right time to turn off your missiles and start shooting the next guy, etc. can at least be chalked up as a little skill. Not much but a little, and I think you've already conceded that the fleet commander can easily effect the outcome of the battles depending on how skilled he is or is not.
I believe running around in fleets of 20 frigs ganking enemy bs's requires very little skill as well, but it is part of the game. Just as having battleships at a safespot ready to warp in if your scouts call for them is part of the game. I'm sure both sides will continue to use said tactics. However, to gank another person with overwhelming odds/numbers doesn't take much skill in my book, maybe good planning but not much skill. You could also potentially say that making sure you don't get ganked yourself might take skill, but that's not the actual event of ganking the single ship that comes through, that's somethign else entirely. These are just my thoughts, and maybe you'll disagree who knows.
Back on topic, it was a good movie, I enjoyed it, and I think we all look forward to making more movies together in the future. Cya in space...
Cyric
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Leafo
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Posted - 2004.11.02 18:28:00 -
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Very good movie!
Nice camerawork and very good editing. Didn't really like the music (except the last song) but it doesn't really matter as long as the clips are well edited to the music.
Very nice!
//Leafo
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Leafo
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Posted - 2004.11.02 18:28:00 -
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Very good movie!
Nice camerawork and very good editing. Didn't really like the music (except the last song) but it doesn't really matter as long as the clips are well edited to the music.
Very nice!
//Leafo
click on sig for all my videos
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Adelline
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Posted - 2004.11.03 22:45:00 -
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Nice video..always enjoy to see big alliance wars in evekeep them coming
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Adelline
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Posted - 2004.11.03 22:45:00 -
[128]
Nice video..always enjoy to see big alliance wars in evekeep them coming
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Nigel
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Posted - 2004.11.04 11:15:00 -
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Not Alliance war m8 it was 3 corps VS 2 Alliances
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Nigel
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Posted - 2004.11.04 11:15:00 -
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Not Alliance war m8 it was 3 corps VS 2 Alliances
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