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Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.24 10:16:00 - [1] Originally by: KillJoy Tseng You know... speaking as a third party that missed the whole thing. Most of the time, the Amarrians are going on about how Star Fraction is irrelevant to the whole conflict - separated from the efforts of the militia, etcetera. Now, a Caldari fleet with limited Amarr support kills off some of their capships and it's a huge blow to the whole proceedings? You can't have it both ways, and a **ing match works better when you're not using someone else's **. To SF... well, better luck next time. I'm sure we all know that any time one undocks anything it's a risk to everyone involved and sometimes you get bit. I'm also rather sure that you won't be long in recovering from it. This really. It was a significant loss and anybody would be foolish to claim otherwise and it was noticeable that the 24th are now pulling out all the stops to confront the problem they have in Kamela including re-recruiting the Helljumpers and seeking large-scale Caldari support to bolster their fleet numbers. We even got our first incoming dec for months from said Helljumpers last night in the wake of the carrier losses so I guess certain jackels have smelled blood in the water! At least one thing is now clear. No Amarrian pilot can creditably claim they are not focused on the battle of Kamela and the attempt to breach the fortress Star Fraction and our allies have built here. Last night we fought as few against the many and we saw some amazing acts of courage and sacrifice from our friends and allies and even when it became obvious the fight was lost and there was nothing to do but die - we chose to die well. In the Star Fraction we do not win all the time. Often we lose ships, often we take risks and often we find ourselves fighting desperate battles against the odds against foes who have taken all the advantage they can squeeze from the situation. But to fight in such circumstances is the measure of a true pilot. In our place yesterday Garst and his allies would have ran a dozen jumps and hidden in the darkest station they could find while bleating about the odds and complaining about interlopers in the war between factions and shipping down to interceptors for the next 24 hours. But we are not Garst. We are not dogs. We are not cowards and we are certainly not the kind of people who will shrink from aiding our friends and taking the opportunity to strike blows against the oppressive stink of Amarrian tyranny in the Bleaklands. We fought. We strove. We died. But when the smoke of battle cleared and the wreckage tumbled away into the night we remained. In battleships, ready and prepared for round two awaiting this declared onslaught - this "breaching the walls of fortress Kamela" and where was Garst? I saw him twice within range of my ships scanner. Once in a capsule. Once in a crusader. While the rest of his organization remained stubbornly docked up in Ohide. Perhaps "Fortress Kamela" isn't completely "breached" as yet. 24th Crusade has some more work to do on that score. I raise a toast to the glorious dead on the Matari and Fraction sides. I spit in the face of the puling cowards and opportunistic jackals in the ranks of our foes. Last night your ships were so numerous you might well have blocked out the sun - but few did fight against many and that legend will live on longer than the fleeting glow of victory in the rapidly-chilling hearts of our opposition. Farewell to the -JFS- "Shining Path" and her valiant crew. You died as heroes fighting close to your comrades unwilling to give up the battle as your allies struggled on that field. Let that image haunt the sleep of these Crusaders and opportunistic Caldari carrion-seekers. You have hurt us, let us see if you have within your means the power to break us. We'll return to this post in the future weeks to come and see if "Fortress Kamela" has been breached again and how often and how deeply you have struck in fulfilment of your boasts. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.24 13:24:00 - [2] Originally by: Veshta Yoshida "We didn't want to Breach Fortress Kamela anyway" See, I'm getting mixed messages from your commanders. Either this was a great strategic victory that ended the myth of Star Fraction capital dominance and opened the floodgates to a resurgent 24th Crusade presence in Kamela your beloved outpost in lowsec and spiritual homeland (Garst) or it was simply and opportunistic fleet fight on the back of the Caldari that allowed you to regain a little pride and means nothing in the big picture (so why post two identical threads in two forums and shout to the heavens about it?) You can't have it both ways Veshta. Either "Fortress Kamela" matters or it doesn't and if it doesn't what was this thread about? True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.24 14:04:00 - [3] Originally by: Rodj Blake You're assuming that every corp in the militia has the same reasons for being in the theatre, and the same methods of acheiving their objectives.This is not neccessarily the case. Fair enough. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.24 14:31:00 - [4] Originally by: SuiJuris Garst may of called it "fortress Kemela" but in reality it matters very little. Well he's your CEO so I guess it matters to you. Quote: You are a Hypocrit of the worst kind. You sit and complain about our third party support from the Caldari Militia WHEN YOUR ENTIRE ALLIANCE's Purpose is to offer THIRD party support to the Minmatar Militia. You need to look up the meaning of the word (like so many other of your companions). Nobody is complaining about you running to beg the help of the Caldari to assist you against the Star Fraction. In a way its a great compliment that you acknowledge you are incapable of defeating our far smaller groups in space without the aid of another Militia. Everything is fair in Eve. Thats what I've told you as I've overseen the jump-bridging of ten battleships to kill a single faction-loaded vindicator from your ranks - thats what I believe. You did what you had to do to achieve a victory yesterday. Enjoy it while you can. Quote: We all know what Happens when SF tries to stand on its own. It begins with very poor tactical decisions, Stupidity you confuse with bravery, and ends with the tattered remains of your ships littering the battlefield. And your corporation docking up in Ohide and hiding from us. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.24 14:59:00 - [5] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 24/10/2009 14:59:57 Originally by: SuiJuris Tell me Jade how many fights have we had My corp vs your Alliance (with no third party influence), And how many times have you came out ontop? Well since we judge victory from you being forced to dock up in Ohide and hide from us I'd say we generally always win. Perhaps we simply consider these things differently - but being Free Captains of the Star Fraction we consider the ability to undock and travel freely in ships of our choosing rather important. Your thinking betrays the limitation of assessing results entirely from killmails. You can kill more of the enemies ships and still lose if you are forced to run away and hide and go inactive. It also goes a way to explain why you are incapable of planning an attack on a fixed objective such as the 5-1 POS depicted in the propaganda post at the head of the thread. There is a limit to what you can achieve without significant forces deployed to an extended presence in space. Your fleeting engagements on the docking point in Ohide aside, I can't think of a single occassion when you've gained and kept an advantage in space from your own backs. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.24 15:41:00 - [6] Originally by: SuiJuris That pos in Kamela is a waste of time and you know it. We have absolutely no reason to destroy it. Its always good to rationalize a reason not to do a thing you are incapable of doing. Quote: I was a lone target in the AB-C corp EVERYNIGHT and conitnued to FC for the Amarr Militia in Battleships and Battlecruisers with no problem. Practically every time I actually saw you in space you were flying interceptors. We have heard reports of you ordering your entire group to reship to frigates because of the presence of four SF battlecruisers. You overestimate your ability to withstand our intediction really. Quote: Seriously it takes you guys so long to bring a fight when we know one is coming sometimes, people have to put off real world things, then after the fight is over we just don't have the time.... Again, rationalize your cowardice as you please SuiJuris. You are an inferior pilot and you must take your chances where they come. Good thing for you is your evasive cowardice spares you the neccessity of buying new ships. But it does mean you are hardly in a position to prove your boasts with action in space. I laugh at your capability and challenge you to bring a fight and prove me wrong if you have the endurance to pursue a real objective for once. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.25 00:23:00 - [7] Originally by: SuiJuris Everytime I undock I have to worry about nearly 4000 Militia War Targets Two issues there. 1 There's the undocking thing. 2. There's the Amarrian hisec thing. You really aren't at much risk from TLF action while camping the hisec side of the Ohide to Kamela gate either. Still keep rationalizing and hoping for the best. We'll see if "Fortress Kamela" can be "breached" again by Garst this month. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.25 00:29:00 - [8] Originally by: Baruc As we speak, members of the Amarr Empire are sitting in Battleships on the Ohide - Kamela gate. We were scouted by members of Star Fraction (who have more pilots in the area then we do) Learn to count. I know Garst has problems in this area but frankly - stop complaining about your enemies not coming to you and work on fulfilling the "Fortress Kamela Breached" boasts. You can sit in hisec all day if you like. Job done for us. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.25 00:37:00 - [9] Originally by: SuiJuris If by Job done you mean 2 more losses with 0 kills to show for it. Good Job. Keep doing your Job, its nice to be on the same side for once, Your content to lose ships and get no kills and were content to kill them. You are quite fixated on kills whereas we're here to aid our Matari comrades and ensure that leading command and control corps in the 24th Crusade are hindered in their lowsec activities. As you sit there cringing like yellow dogs unable to muster the courage to leave your hisec system we really don't need to do much at all. You are doing it all for us. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.25 02:40:00 - [10] Originally by: Baruc Update: We are now sitting in Kamela. Star Fraction members content to hide and spam this discusion rather then fight. Strangely enough we've just seen you forced to call the Caldari again to support you against a medium-sized TLF fleet. Seems you all can hardly undock from the station in Ohide at the moment without the Caldari holding your hands. Is this what we did to you? Interesting. True Knowledge

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.25 03:43:00 - [11] Originally by: SuiJuris Seems you all can hardly manage to get any kills without a Minmatar fleet to hide behind Tough talk from a militia that won't undock without the Caldari fleet to hide behind. Seems we can both play that angle now. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.25 03:57:00 - [12] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 25/10/2009 03:59:13 Originally by: Corewin How were they hiding behind a Caldari fleet that arrived post battle?... He only engaged because he had a Caldari fleet backing him up (again). Whats difficult to understand about that? Listen. I'm not criticising him for ensuring he always has the massive numerical advantageous before engaging - its a smart play. But its simply nonsense for his underlings to bleat on about enemies playing smart too on this thread. Caldari have been brought to the Black Rise theatre to shore up a failing 24th Crusade effort - the dynamic has changed, and its rather silly to listen to foolish Amarrian pilots pretending they were successful before this intervention. Originally by: SuiJuris Except I do undock, Not more then 2 hours ago I undocked and Warped to the Kamela gate solo, I was promptly jumped upon by 10 SF, who set a fail trap and all aggressed on one side of the gate, Leaving me able to de aggress jump through and warp off, Its pretty bad when the 10 of you can't even manage to hold onto a plated BC. Congratulations on undocking and immediately fleeing from the Star Fraction! True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.25 16:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Zanco Ceal Friendly (92) hostile (57) Don't let Garst teach you to count is my advise :) True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.25 18:40:00 - [14] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 25/10/2009 18:40:08 Originally by: DarthDeaconRage http://i35.tinypic.com/t8qde1.jpg Image changed to URL. Zymurgist hope you don't mind but I've borrowed your poster for the lead graphic of my account of the battle of sosala gate. Come and have a read. True Knowledge
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.10.25 19:07:00 - [15] Originally by: Zanco Ceal Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Zanco Ceal Friendly (92) hostile (57) Don't let Garst teach you to count is my advise :) amarr records show friendly at 92 and hostile at 57 star fraction records show friendly 86 and hostile 30. not sure where tomahawk gets 100 to 10 from. Come and read about what happened - killboards never show the true story. True Knowledge

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