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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.06.12 11:05:00 -
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Large Marg wrote:So all you hard core seasoned head cases think this will ruin Eve?
You must be on some high grade drugs to think this.
Let's see how best to explain it to you.
They gave back the SP from all the learning skills. I got back 2.3mil SP. something like that and it was from like 5 skills, not just 1.I spent my points in something I needed and Eve has not been destroyed. I'm at a total loss for words. My spending the 2.3mil SP should by what you tell me destabilized the whole game. I am disappointed now.
Remapping skill you get once a year and Eve is still moving along and not on fire or been pulled into a Black Hole.
Very strange indeed.
Yet you tell me getting the ability once a year to skill points from 1 skill let say mining will tear the very fabrice of space and time killing Eve?
You kids are amusing I will give you that, but WOW.. ROFLMAO....
The learning skill debarcle, was not in the same league as what you are suggesting. Not only that, but that change diectly helped new players and old alike with almost equal measure. (those of us that had all at 5/5, actually lost a little training time per hour but ho hum)
If you cannot see, or even if you simply do not want to see the bad results that would come from your idea, then fine. But that is not our problem, it is in fact yours. For it is those dire consqueces for the game, that means this idea will never come to pass.
Also, not understanding the issue and problems therein, but calling others who do 'kids', will not win you the argument either. 
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
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Posted - 2012.06.12 11:10:00 -
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Large Marg wrote:
At least I didn't do something stupid
Large Marg wrote:something stupid
The reason your post was subjected to derision is because you made a thread about a stupid subject that has been discussed, dismissed, re-discussed, re-hashed and subsequently filed under "moronic idea with no benefits at all" a long time ago. I suggest researching such things in future to avoid such a backlash.
Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
lanyaie
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Posted - 2012.06.12 13:08:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic. So you approve then. Nice... No. I think you are a troll.
and a very bad troll, doesn't even own a bridge like me
I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.06.12 13:36:00 -
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This is a new and original idea. |
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.06.12 13:36:00 -
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Oh wait no its not. |
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.06.12 13:37:00 -
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Hint: it gets the same response every time it comes up |
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.06.12 13:38:00 -
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ISD Stensson wrote:Thread moved from "EVE General Discussion" to "Features & Ideas Discussion" forum.
Please keep in mind rules about being respectful of others and also do not use pyramid quoting. Thank you.
Maybe you guys could learn how to create a forum properly and make it so that when you quote someone, you only quote the last quote by default?
braining is hard |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2012.06.12 14:26:00 -
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I suggested something like this a long time ago, and have since decided it's generally a bad idea. That said, here is the ONE possible "SP refund" idea that I think could work without being abused:
After 18-24 months of subscription, allow pilots to "unlearn" from 1-2 million SP. This would allow people to recover SP lost to noob mistakes after they've played long enough to recognize noob mistakes. It would be a one-time release per account.
This would let me get back about half of the now-useless industry skills I trained early on before I really had the game figured out. Yes it's completely self-serving, but what suggestions aren't around here.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
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Posted - 2012.06.12 14:28:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic. So you approve then. Nice... No. I think you are a troll. can troll claim other troll is a troll  
Well you know they say it takes one to know one... |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.06.12 15:33:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I suggested something like this a long time ago, and have since decided it's generally a bad idea. That said, here is the ONE possible "SP refund" idea that I think could work without being abused:
After 18-24 months of subscription, allow pilots to "unlearn" from 1-2 million SP. This would allow people to recover SP lost to noob mistakes after they've played long enough to recognize noob mistakes. It would be a one-time release per account.
This would let me get back about half of the now-useless industry skills I trained early on before I really had the game figured out. Yes it's completely self-serving, but what suggestions aren't around here.
EVE is a game of consequences. WHy is the removal of these consequences a good thing? |
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.12 16:00:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I suggested something like this a long time ago, and have since decided it's generally a bad idea. That said, here is the ONE possible "SP refund" idea that I think could work without being abused:
After 18-24 months of subscription, allow pilots to "unlearn" from 1-2 million SP. This would allow people to recover SP lost to noob mistakes after they've played long enough to recognize noob mistakes. It would be a one-time release per account.
This would let me get back about half of the now-useless industry skills I trained early on before I really had the game figured out. Yes it's completely self-serving, but what suggestions aren't around here.
still bad. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.13 00:27:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I suggested something like this a long time ago, and have since decided it's generally a bad idea. That said, here is the ONE possible "SP refund" idea that I think could work without being abused:
After 18-24 months of subscription, allow pilots to "unlearn" from 1-2 million SP. This would allow people to recover SP lost to noob mistakes after they've played long enough to recognize noob mistakes. It would be a one-time release per account.
This would let me get back about half of the now-useless industry skills I trained early on before I really had the game figured out. Yes it's completely self-serving, but what suggestions aren't around here.
EVE is not about time travel to fix past mistakes. |
Xandralkus
Eos Corporation
10
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Posted - 2012.06.13 01:28:00 -
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What everyone here needs to remember is that SP accumulation is the primary method by which characters in eve progress. It may be the most crucial game mechanic in all of eve, so even a minor change of this mechanic may have massive and catastrophic consequences for the game at large, which CCP could never hope to undo, short of deleting the entire game world and starting again.
They're reluctant to screw around with SP for a reason, and it's a damn good reason.
If you really want to change it, make it a change that has no actual, tangible impact on the game itself. This is the only way to undoubtedly avoid any game mechanic apocalypse.
I'd support an item purchasable with PLEX that allowed someone to increase their skill training speed by a factor of 3600 (one hour per second), for a duration of 720 seconds - the equivelent of 30 days of skill training. However, after using this item, all SP accumulation would be prevented for the next 30 days. Essentially, it would be borrowing SP, and the 30-day limit prevents people from spontaneously creating an endgame carrier-driving monster out of thin air, regardless of how much SP the character already has.
Why not just directly buy 30 days' worth of SP, and force-pause skill training for the next 30 days? Easy - it doesn't take attributes into account.
Just to keep the newbies from whining, I'd also support this item being unavailable to characters less than 30 days old. They need to learn what skillbooks are, or else they would likely end up wasting most of their instantaneous SP acquisition.
But a straight SP remap? Absolutely not. No Rorqual pilot should ever be able to pay any amount of money to CCP and end up flying a supercarrier ten minutes later.
Eve UI wouldn't suck if CCP allowed UI addons. |
Xhaiden Ora
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.13 07:18:00 -
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I'm beginning to suspect the reason this concept rarely gets any traction is because of how often it's suggested in new and hilariously awful ways.
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