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CNW Thornike Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.10.26 17:05:00 - [1] Edited by: CNW Thornike on 26/10/2009 17:05:10 This is not an issue like the other threads here, although I thought this was the best suitable place to post the topic. Mu question is: what can be done in graphics settings for the lines of the ship, marked with red lines in screenshot below, to be smooth, instead of being "chopped"? http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2853/copyof20091026164646.png Thanks beforehand. --- LSD is an area of the mind that could be called 'unsane' - beyond sanity, and yet not insane. Think of a circle with a fine split in it..
Lork Niffle Gallente External Hard Drive	Posted - 2009.10.26 17:16:00 - [2] This is done via an effect called Anti-Aliasing. Anti-aliasing has never been supported in the EVE client. It can though be forced via a graphic software control panel; either the Nvidia control panel or Catalyst Control Centre depending which graphics card you have. Take into account that this is not supported so may not work without some tweaking and that this effect will cause performance hits since it can effectively rerender each graphic 2-64x. It can also cause artefacts in conjunction with HDR or Bloom. Give your system specifications to get a direction to go in to get Anti-Aliasing working. ------------------------------------- Don't click the links or even the forum topics.
CNW Thornike Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.10.26 20:09:00 - [3] Edited by: CNW Thornike on 26/10/2009 20:13:35 Edited by: CNW Thornike on 26/10/2009 20:13:06 Originally by: Lork Niffle This is done via an effect called Anti-Aliasing. Anti-aliasing has never been supported in the EVE client. It can though be forced via a graphic software control panel; either the Nvidia control panel or Catalyst Control Centre depending which graphics card you have. Take into account that this is not supported so may not work without some tweaking and that this effect will cause performance hits since it can effectively rerender each graphic 2-64x. It can also cause artefacts in conjunction with HDR or Bloom. Give your system specifications to get a direction to go in to get Anti-Aliasing working. Thanks so much for helping. I have seen screenshots where the effect marked on my screen is not visible, and therefore the graphics look so much nicer; that's why I have wanted to do the same to my graphics. My specs are: Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz 2GB RAM NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 1680x1050, driver version 6.14.0011.8585 of 30.04.2009 Windows XP Pro SP3, DirectX 9.0c This is what I found on the EVE settings page of the NVIDIA Control Panel relating to the antialiasing: http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1377/clip3.png --- LSD is an area of the mind that could be called 'unsane' - beyond sanity, and yet not insane. Think of a circle with a fine split in it..
Lork Niffle Gallente External Hard Drive	Posted - 2009.10.26 20:40:00 - [4] Yes you will want to turn anti-aliasing on it seems. I unfortunately no longer own a Nvidia card and have not used their control panel as a consequence. I guess just go through those options and turn on options, when you come across a anti-aliasing setting or value that is 2X to 32X try setting it to 2X to start with, that is the level of AA you are using, the 9500 should be able to handle 2X and that will give serious boosts to quality. ------------------------------------- Don't click the links or even the forum topics.
CNW Thornike Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.10.26 20:43:00 - [5] Originally by: Lork Niffle Yes you will want to turn anti-aliasing on it seems. I unfortunately no longer own a Nvidia card and have not used their control panel as a consequence. I guess just go through those options and turn on options, when you come across a anti-aliasing setting or value that is 2X to 32X try setting it to 2X to start with, that is the level of AA you are using, the 9500 should be able to handle 2X and that will give serious boosts to quality. Thanks a lot. --- LSD is an area of the mind that could be called 'unsane' - beyond sanity, and yet not insane. Think of a circle with a fine split in it..
CNW Thornike Caldari	Posted - 2009.12.02 18:21:00 - [6] There still are visible "chopped" points along the lines, although reduced a bit by the antialiasing option. http://wiki.eveonline.com/w/images/thumb/6/6a/Falcon2.jpg/800px-Falcon2.jpg Here is the Evelopedia picture for Falcon. My question is, was this screenshot modified/corrected in PS before posting? Or why is there no "chopped" effect visible on it? Is it possible to completely eliminate the mentioned effect?
Alejan Gerakh Minmatar ShadowMoon Inc.	Posted - 2009.12.02 18:52:00 - [7] Looking closely at that picture of the Falcon, I do see the jagged edges of the pixels even there. It's just the angle of the ship does a fairly good job of hiding it. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me." Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems.
Thornike K Caldari Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2009.12.02 21:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Alejan Gerakh Looking closely at that picture of the Falcon, I do see the jagged edges of the pixels even there. It's just the angle of the ship does a fairly good job of hiding it. You are right in both sentences, but everything's comparable. There is far more sharp and intense jaggedness on screenshots I take in-game, and I belive most of other players' too. --- LSD is an area of the mind that could be called 'unsane' - beyond sanity, and yet not insane. Think of a circle with a fine split in it..
Alejan Gerakh Minmatar ShadowMoon Inc.	Posted - 2009.12.02 21:50:00 - [9] I also notice that when I go to the article for the Falcon, the 800x600 isn't the largest form- that particular picture is downsampled from the actual shot which is apparently 1280x960 ( http://wiki.eveonline.com/w/images/6/6a/Falcon2.jpg ). I'm also noticing jpeg compression distortion in the shot, which itself can artificially add 'smoothness' purely by accident. Regardless, if you want to diminish the effect, the only way is to force anti-aliasing through the video driver's configuration software (ForceWare for GeForce, I believe), which others already mentioned. The higher the multiplier, the better it hides the 'jaggies', but also the greater chance your game won't run smoothly (that is, performance will drop). Try pushing it up to 4x if 2x looks too 'jagged' for your tastes. However, I've also read that anti-aliasing can cause issues with 'Bloom' and 'HDR' from posts in other threads on this issue. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me." Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems.
Thornike K Caldari Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2009.12.02 22:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Alejan Gerakh I also notice that when I go to the article for the Falcon, the 800x600 isn't the largest form- that particular picture is downsampled from the actual shot which is apparently 1280x960 ( http://wiki.eveonline.com/w/images/6/6a/Falcon2.jpg ). I'm also noticing jpeg compression distortion in the shot, which itself can artificially add 'smoothness' purely by accident. Regardless, if you want to diminish the effect, the only way is to force anti-aliasing through the video driver's configuration software (ForceWare for GeForce, I believe), which others already mentioned. The higher the multiplier, the better it hides the 'jaggies', but also the greater chance your game won't run smoothly (that is, performance will drop). Try pushing it up to 4x if 2x looks too 'jagged' for your tastes. However, I've also read that anti-aliasing can cause issues with 'Bloom' and 'HDR' from posts in other threads on this issue. That original picture shows that there was more of that effect indeed, thanks. I have already done the forced antialiasing via NVIDIA CP as I mentioned with my other char; will work on those options again. Thank you. --- LSD is an area of the mind that could be called 'unsane' - beyond sanity, and yet not insane. Think of a circle with a fine split in it..

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