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Seleene Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 1722	Posted - 2012.06.12 14:47:00 - [1] - Quote For those of you interested in the doings of the CSM, I've thrown together a pair of lengthy blogs detailing what I can about our recent visit to Iceland. We are currently working on the official minutes and are hoping to have them done and ready for release by the end of the month. Once we have a firm release date in sight, I will announce a date for our second 'Town Hall' meeting so the community can ask us a bit more about the summit and whatever else is on your minds. In the meantime this pair of blogs should hopefully answer some questions while we work on the more detailed stuff: Part I Part II CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter!
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 602	Posted - 2012.06.12 15:06:00 - [2] - Quote Appreciated, thank you Seleene o7 The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 2418	Posted - 2012.06.12 15:15:00 - [3] - Quote Thanks for posting this.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 1412	Posted - 2012.06.12 15:18:00 - [4] - Quote while we appreciate your enthusiasm, the CSM is about as useful as boobs on the pope The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Vincent Morxsus Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.06.12 15:24:00 - [5] - Quote Thanks for the post. This made me very pleased "We saw several finished V3 versions of the Minmatar ships which should be out soon", autocannons and the new rifter, I am a happy chap.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 1728	Posted - 2012.06.12 15:29:00 - [6] - Quote Morganta wrote: while we appreciate your enthusiasm, the CSM is about as useful as boobs on the pope I am much prettier than you. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter!
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 1412	Posted - 2012.06.12 15:30:00 - [7] - Quote Seleene wrote: Morganta wrote: while we appreciate your enthusiasm, the CSM is about as useful as boobs on the pope I am much prettier than you. must be those free trips to Iceland The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Andrea Griffin 292	Posted - 2012.06.12 15:45:00 - [8] - Quote I sense bitter, jealous resentment. Thank you for your efforts Seleene. This seems to be one of the best and most productive CSMs in a while. GÖÑ CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 420	Posted - 2012.06.12 15:58:00 - [9] - Quote Very good read, waiting for the minutes now. Also hope the new outfits are released soon, they were darn smexy on Sisi This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless
Ginseng Jita Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 979	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:02:00 - [10] - Quote ...and the State of Incarna...? Read it and all I got from what you wrote was - nothing. So seriously, what is the "state of Incarna"?
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 1412	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:03:00 - [11] - Quote Andrea Griffin wrote: I sense bitter, jealous resentment. Thank you for your efforts Seleene. This seems to be one of the best and most productive CSMs in a while. GÖÑ don't confuse my disdain for useless expenditures with bitterness. I read the blog and there was nothing in there that requires a group of "chosen ones" to relay to the customer base. The CSM has become a joke, and a bad one at that. I love that you want to be a part of something important, but the sad fact is you're paid patsies, a puppet government used for PR, you get wined and dined and sit around watching CCP work and then relay less information (due to NDAs and other legal poop) than the average Dev puts in a blog post. you are bloat, plain and simple. The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Seleene Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 1730	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:06:00 - [12] - Quote Ginseng Jita wrote: ...and the State of Incarna...? Read it and all I got from what you wrote was - nothing. So seriously, what is the "state of Incarna"? CCP Unifex should be putting out a blog in the next couple weeks about some of the stuff we discussed. Part of our meeting on Incarna was about what would or wouldn't be a good idea and how to best present it all. This is progress considering last year's train wreck. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter!
Seleene Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 1730	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:08:00 - [13] - Quote Morganta wrote: the sad fact is you're paid patsies We get paid? CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter!
HVAC Repairman GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 160	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:08:00 - [14] - Quote Morganta wrote: Andrea Griffin wrote: I sense bitter, jealous resentment. Thank you for your efforts Seleene. This seems to be one of the best and most productive CSMs in a while. GÖÑ don't confuse my disdain for useless expenditures with bitterness. I read the blog and there was nothing in there that requires a group of "chosen ones" to relay to the customer base. The CSM has become a joke, and a bad one at that. I love that you want to be a part of something important, but the sad fact is you're paid patsies, a puppet government used for PR, you get wined and dined and sit around watching CCP work and then relay less information (due to NDAs and other legal poop) than the average Dev puts in a blog post. you are bloat, plain and simple. the only thing bloated was your poorly thought out post Follow me on twitter
AFK Hauler State War Academy 399	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:13:00 - [15] - Quote Thank you for this update. Will edit later if I need to add some useless comment after reviewing the material.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 1412	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:13:00 - [16] - Quote Seleene wrote: Morganta wrote: the sad fact is you're paid patsies We get paid? do you pay your own expenses? The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Asuka Solo Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises 1526	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:27:00 - [17] - Quote Reading this did not inspire confidence on the front of my Incarna brothels in the near future... Nor did I see anything about PI.... Sad panda
Tobias Sjodin Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 145	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:52:00 - [18] - Quote Morganta wrote: Andrea Griffin wrote: I sense bitter, jealous resentment. Thank you for your efforts Seleene. This seems to be one of the best and most productive CSMs in a while. GÖÑ don't confuse my disdain for useless expenditures with bitterness. I read the blog and there was nothing in there that requires a group of "chosen ones" to relay to the customer base. The CSM has become a joke, and a bad one at that. I love that you want to be a part of something important, but the sad fact is you're paid patsies, a puppet government used for PR, you get wined and dined and sit around watching CCP work and then relay less information (due to NDAs and other legal poop) than the average Dev puts in a blog post. you are bloat, plain and simple. The truth is somewhere in the middle, while CSM most definitely is an investment from CCP with an expected return profit they (CSM) are also gaining vital information on how CCP works. The players elected them, and the CSM state what their opinions are, and reflect to the community what they can. Naturally there is a pressure on the CSM to act civil and to be "diplomatic", but they are also able to state the hard facts to CCP. The CSM however is not what some people seem to think they are, a direct link between the players and the actions of CCP. CCP appreciates the input (otherwise they do not have a business, which was a hard learned, but still learned lesson). The influence over CCP decisions is overstated but still present. I think that when the community says "NO" with a loud and united voice they (CCP) have to listen. The individual or smaller groups of individuals however have no bearing on anything, even if they voted. Just like in real life politics. Ronald Reagan: I do not like Sweden, they support communism. Minister: Sir, but Sweden are anti-communist, Sir.-á Ronald Reagan: I do not care what kind of communists they are.
Logan LaMort Black Rebel Rifter Club 1262	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:55:00 - [19] - Quote Awesome, reading now
Bossy Lady Aliastra Gallente Federation 65	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:56:00 - [20] - Quote Seleene wrote: For those of you interested in the doings of the CSM, I've thrown together a pair of lengthy blogs detailing what I can about our recent visit to Iceland. We are currently working on the official minutes and are hoping to have them done and ready for release by the end of the month. Once we have a firm release date in sight, I will announce a date for our second 'Town Hall' meeting so the community can ask us a bit more about the summit and whatever else is on your minds. In the meantime this pair of blogs should hopefully answer some questions while we work on the more detailed stuff: Part I Part II Nice write ups. Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.
Bossy Lady Aliastra Gallente Federation 68	Posted - 2012.06.12 16:57:00 - [21] - Quote Morganta wrote: Andrea Griffin wrote: I sense bitter, jealous resentment. Thank you for your efforts Seleene. This seems to be one of the best and most productive CSMs in a while. GÖÑ don't confuse my disdain for useless expenditures with bitterness. I read the blog and there was nothing in there that requires a group of "chosen ones" to relay to the customer base. The CSM has become a joke, and a bad one at that. I love that you want to be a part of something important, but the sad fact is you're paid patsies, a puppet government used for PR, you get wined and dined and sit around watching CCP work and then relay less information (due to NDAs and other legal poop) than the average Dev puts in a blog post. you are bloat, plain and simple. This is the most jealous post I have ever seen on GD. Gratz on raising the bar I guess. Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.
Xenuria Center Haus Apocalypse Now. 525	Posted - 2012.06.12 17:51:00 - [22] - Quote Maybe if I pull all my resources I will get on CSM 8. That would be nice. I could hang out with the cool kidz and the devs can teach me how to get girls. The Future of GoonSwarm
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 1138	Posted - 2012.06.12 17:53:00 - [23] - Quote i guess 0.0 will be iterated on next year maybe votes well spent
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 237	Posted - 2012.06.12 18:07:00 - [24] - Quote Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too... I guess if it doesn't affect 0.0 Alliances or Mercenaries it doesn't matter to CSM7. I assume you saw the numbers on this: have the Drone bounties exceeded the amount of ISK taken out with the Incursion NERF? http://memegenerator.net/instance/21816812
Max Swagger State War Academy Caldari State 4	Posted - 2012.06.12 18:12:00 - [25] - Quote Great stuff. Great to hear the CCP devs actually want to chat the CSM and the CSM's role seem s to be getting more formalized each year. Keep up the good work.
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 934	Posted - 2012.06.12 18:19:00 - [26] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too... I guess if it doesn't affect 0.0 Alliances or Mercenaries it doesn't matter to CSM7. I assume you saw the numbers on this: have the Drone bounties exceeded the amount of ISK taken out with the Incursion NERF? You're not getting your ISK fountain back. eh
No More Heroes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 603	Posted - 2012.06.12 18:21:00 - [27] - Quote Morganta wrote: while we appreciate your enthusiasm, the CSM is about as useful as boobs on the pope Addendum: useless without The Mittani ~10,058~ .
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 384	Posted - 2012.06.12 18:58:00 - [28] - Quote Ok read the whole thing and i am getting excited... just a few questions 1. iteration is there any plan to iterate on missions/complexes ? i know they added in a few complexes for serp... but in all the mission system has not been really iterated since i started to play in 06... (ok so they got rid of quality and stuff but angel extravaganza is still the same) 2. any hint on the new ships... pretty please... 3. since ccp tallest is back any chance he will iterate on weapon balance... we were so close to a great breakthrew in balance before the twins were born... i just hope that this is not put on the back burner for another year... PLEX FOR PIZZA! tech III industrial ships!
Alia Gon'die Aliastra Gallente Federation 94	Posted - 2012.06.12 19:02:00 - [29] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too... I guess if it doesn't affect 0.0 Alliances or Mercenaries it doesn't matter to CSM7. I assume you saw the numbers on this: have the Drone bounties exceeded the amount of ISK taken out with the Incursion NERF? You assume that nullsec alliances don't run Incursions? Also, what about the recent devblog where they rolled back then 10% isk and system control nerfs? Self-appointed forums hallway monitor
Seleene Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 1734	Posted - 2012.06.12 19:04:00 - [30] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too... This is all being worked on right now. There was a dev blog released today. If you check some of the replies in the comment thread of that blog there's more information about what the dev team is doing. It's not being left alone by any means. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter!

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