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Vorion Lightbringer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.30 14:38:00 -
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So that means you're going to play via PLEXes or?
I slowboated 1 (one) CN invuln field in a speed-"fitted" (no armor, just 3 overdrive modules and an AB) rifter. got ganked, got angry, got more experience.
Lesson(s) learned... - don't slowboat - there's always room for a shield extender and/or EM hardener / Invuln field. - don't slowboat
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fpshacker
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.10.30 15:19:00 -
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Maybe you should not have nice things
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Sirhaulalot
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Posted - 2009.10.30 18:31:00 -
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You guys are just a bunch of jerks.
All the guy wanted to do was try and build somethign but all you do is DESTROY. You're all so far gone thawt yaou can't EMPATHIZE with your felow man.
you should be ASHAMED of urselves.
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Papa Boats
Roman Sandals THAT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.30 18:35:00 -
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I like the OP's logic.
I mean if I am at the gas station and some *** heads bust in shot me in the head and rob the store there is defiantly something wrong. I mean those police in my 1st world nation are there to stop all those pesky criminals. If we did not have those real life mechanics working like a champ the IRS would lose a customer and would not pay them anymore.
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Liz Laser
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.10.30 20:04:00 -
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Eve Rule #1: Only fly what you can afford to lose.
If losing that ship/cargo was enough to make you ragequit, then you have obviously violated rule #1.
If you still can't bring yourself to obey rule #1 in the future, then quitting now is the best solution. It will save you much consternation.
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.10.30 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sirhaulalot You guys are just a bunch of jerks.
All the guy wanted to do was try and build somethign but all you do is DESTROY. You're all so far gone thawt yaou can't EMPATHIZE with your felow man.
you should be ASHAMED of urselves.
Youre right, I feel terrible.
No wait, I think thats just gas...
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Pitr Desinovich
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.10.30 23:43:00 -
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dont want to get blowed up, go play on singularity the Trammel of eve.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.10.30 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: The Crushah
Originally by: Sirhaulalot You guys are just a bunch of jerks.
All the guy wanted to do was try and build somethign but all you do is DESTROY. You're all so far gone thawt yaou can't EMPATHIZE with your felow man.
you should be ASHAMED of urselves.
Youre right, I feel terrible.
No wait, I think thats just gas...
The Scottish Fold approves.
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Mire Stoude
The Undesirables
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Posted - 2009.10.31 08:15:00 -
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Edited by: Mire Stoude on 31/10/2009 08:15:11
Originally by: Hakon Andarison That, and might I add one of the motivating factors behind said cancellation is the people on EVE as well. They combine the autistic tendencies of the reclusive neckbeard demographic with the civility of 4chan.
Might have to quote that... is that a compliment or an insult?
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BuRniZZ
Caldari The Warped Corpe The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.10.31 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Msgerbs As much as you all have points...
You'd probably retain more players if you didn't feel a compulsive need to be an ass to anyone who doesn't see things your way. I for one am glad I never browsed the forums as a new palyers as I most likely would've quit seeing the assholishness here... Be an ass all you want in action, but there's no reason to take it outside of ingame actions.
Most of the forums are quite civil imho. But you forget that C & P stands for C u n t s & P r i c k s. And that is of course why it's the one I read the most.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.10.31 09:42:00 -
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A little less of the ganking in high-sec and we may have a few more players in the game. It really only hits the new players. Those players who stay mostly got lucky and never got ganked, and now fly well fitted ships able to survive a gank ... All these ganks continue to proof one thing though. CCP needs to remove the insurance payments on ships who start an aggression. Take the Hulkageddon for example. Pirates used cheap ships and insured them to blow up expensive mining ships. It is really all about the ISK and a pretty dumb joke, too. Just think about it - terrorists and pirates who insure their ships and get paid out. --
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Dannerkongen
Lootex
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Posted - 2009.10.31 12:53:00 -
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this sig makes my day everytime i see it!
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Spaztick
Terminal Impact Kairakau
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Posted - 2009.10.31 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: lollerwaffle can I have your stuff?
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Pater Peccavi
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.10.31 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: BuRniZZ
Originally by: Msgerbs As much as you all have points...
You'd probably retain more players if you didn't feel a compulsive need to be an ass to anyone who doesn't see things your way. I for one am glad I never browsed the forums as a new palyers as I most likely would've quit seeing the assholishness here... Be an ass all you want in action, but there's no reason to take it outside of ingame actions.
Most of the forums are quite civil imho. But you forget that C & P stands for C u n t s & P r i c k s. And that is of course why it's the one I read the most.
C&P is Pleasantville compared to CAOD. _________
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8765409
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Posted - 2009.10.31 18:53:00 -
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People like you wont be happy till all PVP is nerfed to oblivion. Im so sick and tired of listening to losers whining about suiciders, gankers, and skill training. This is Eve, its not for the spineless, gutless, stupid, or the emo.
RANT OFF
I mean all that in a nice way.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.10.31 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: 8765409 People like you wont be happy till all PVP is nerfed to oblivion. Im so sick and tired of listening to losers whining about suiciders, gankers, and skill training. This is Eve, its not for the spineless, gutless, stupid, or the emo.
RANT OFF
I mean all that in a nice way.
If you take the Sandbox analogy CCP has given - I hope you have all seen the Sandbox video - then the gankers' role in said sandbox is that of dog turds. --
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2009.10.31 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: 8765409 People like you wont be happy till all PVP is nerfed to oblivion. Im so sick and tired of listening to losers whining about suiciders, gankers, and skill training. This is Eve, its not for the spineless, gutless, stupid, or the emo.
RANT OFF
I mean all that in a nice way.
If you take the Sandbox analogy CCP has given - I hope you have all seen the Sandbox video - then the gankers' role in said sandbox is that of dog turds.
Wow, sarcasm--that's original! The role of suicide gankers is simple: they force people to pay attention, even in high-sec, and they redistribute wealth from the incompetent to the bold.
Originally by: Whitehound A little less of the ganking in high-sec and we may have a few more players in the game. It really only hits the new players. Those players who stay mostly got lucky and never got ganked, and now fly well fitted ships able to survive a gank ... All these ganks continue to proof one thing though. CCP needs to remove the insurance payments on ships who start an aggression. Take the Hulkageddon for example. Pirates used cheap ships and insured them to blow up expensive mining ships. It is really all about the ISK and a pretty dumb joke, too. Just think about it - terrorists and pirates who insure their ships and get paid out.
Since when do new players carry anything in a hauler worth ganking?
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haav0c
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Posted - 2009.10.31 20:16:00 -
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a friend of mine got ganked outside a jita station and lost 1.1 bil worth of minerals.... damn hypurions. hyperions? hyperons? the gallente ship... thats not a domi or a mega. annnyway.... as we said to each other at the time, you win some, you learn some. if some ****HEAD (no offence to the ****HEADS, its certainly a valid way to play eve and much more profitable in terms of time invested to time spent when stupid miners haul 1.1 bil in a hauler, but i like calling you guys ****HEADS. cause you are. ****heads. and as much as i'd rather not play with people that are activley trying to screw me, it's unavoidable) eve is basically trials by fires of varying temperature. once you get your @ss burned a few more times you'll learn. about those fires. course, then you'll get your @ss burned by the NEXT trial. hell, after a few weeks you'll probably get your @ss burned again by the same thing once you get confident enough.
hmm... i probably had a point somewhere in there. interpret that as you will.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.10.31 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku Since when do new players carry anything in a hauler worth ganking?
Perhaps because they sold a PLEX. Why would I know? You need to ask them, not me. I got shot for a few hundred thousand charges of standard ammo (S & M sized). At best was the cargo worth 10 million ISK. --
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0racle
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2009.10.31 20:36:00 -
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So what you're saying is we should turn eve in to Hello Kitty Online adventure because you were victim to Hulkageddon ?
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haav0c
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Posted - 2009.10.31 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: 0racle So what you're saying is we should turn eve in to Hello Kitty Online adventure because you were victim to Hulkageddon ?
i eagerly await the kitty titans... picture a giant hello kitty with thrusters... and guns that shoot friendship. the DD consists of firing puppies at the target ship
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.10.31 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: 0racle So what you're saying is we should turn eve in to Hello Kitty Online adventure because you were victim to Hulkageddon ?
Are you responding to me? And perhaps explain what Hello Kitty Online adventure is. --
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Esk Esme
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.11.01 01:35:00 -
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to the OP
dont let the door hit u on the way out
my english sux sue me
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Sith LordX
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Posted - 2009.11.01 02:25:00 -
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Suicide_gank Understand by this link. Its part of the game, ccp allows this because eve is a realistic dangerous world and ccp made it that way, there is always going to be crime in a dark universe such as eve. This is not WoW people.
THIS IS EVE!!!
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.01 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sith LordX http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Suicide_gank Understand by this link. Its part of the game, ccp allows this because eve is a realistic dangerous world and ccp made it that way, there is always going to be crime in a dark universe such as eve. This is not WoW people.
THIS IS EVE!!!
You have my rax, etc.
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ShangoLianja Balogun
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Posted - 2009.11.01 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: ShangoLianja Balogun on 01/11/2009 15:20:53
Originally by: N'tek alar
Originally by: Hakon Andarison Edited by: Hakon Andarison on 29/10/2009 15:16:38
Le Soltueur - I did not have any weapons and my maximum velocity was 110 m/s or so. Even though I was at the computer at the time, I could not do a damn thing about it.
uhu...
You could:
A) Not use autopilot B) Warp to 0 C) Tank the hauler well enough to survive until CONCORD arrived D) Break the load up and make 2-3 trips to make sure it wasn't worth suiciding you E) Used a scout watching for suiciders ahead of you and taken a different route (Yes, Suiciders are generally quite obvious, sensor booster running, drones out, sitting on a gate along a major traderoute). F) Used a cloaking transport ship (again, No using autopilot) G) Used a courier contract to get your stuff moved
I've hauled plenty of expensive cargoloads through common suicide spots, I've so far never lost one (and yes, there has been attempts).
But no, Of course you're right, there is absolutely no way of avoiding getting suicided >_>
Best advice made. EVE's universe (in terms of peeps' behavior) is made to mirror our own, replete with all the criminal behavior some hold dear. It's simply too easy to slide into ganking and seeing as fun. Hell, somebody's gotta do it (we can't all be Angels). Too much isk to be made that way, and fun to pirates, and others, who like the sound of pods poppin' like sguished ticks, and the sound of us cryin' 'bout it thereafter.
Don't quit (and give "them" the masturbatory satisfaction therein), and while you cry, get your skillspoints and ships up to snuff and throw down. Go out like a man...unless you're Amarr, Caldari, Gallante or other such shims...
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Kaya Divine
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.11.01 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound All these ganks continue to proof one thing though. CCP needs to remove the insurance payments on ships who start an aggression. Take the Hulkageddon for example. Pirates used cheap ships and insured them to blow up expensive mining ships. It is really all about the ISK and a pretty dumb joke, too. Just think about it - terrorists and pirates who insure their ships and get paid out.
I totally agree with this, suicidal gank should be reserved for middle class players not for poor players who can`t afford to lose not insured ships.
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Saul Reaver
Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.11.01 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Hakon Andarison Edited by: Hakon Andarison on 29/10/2009 15:16:38 In response to Rex Luciferi, therein lies why I decided to cancel the subscription. If that is how people are playing the game, why should I be paying $15 / mo to partake?
That, and might I add one of the motivating factors behind said cancellation is the people on EVE as well. They combine the autistic tendencies of the reclusive neckbeard demographic with the civility of 4chan.
Le Soltueur - I did not have any weapons and my maximum velocity was 110 m/s or so. Even though I was at the computer at the time, I could not do a damn thing about it.
Train for Transport Ships. Those things are hard to kill if pilot is not afk. Also when travelling with valuable cargo put all the nice lootz in containers in your cargohold so the dirty little suicide ganking piewats can't scan the contents of your cargo.
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Revolution Rising
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.11.02 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Harald Hausakluif Unless this suicide ganking nonsense is resolved, CCP will not be receiving any more of my monies. It is troublesome enough that 90% of the time playing this game I am warping somewhere, and the lack of documentation makes most things a matter of trial and error, but if I cannot even fly a damn iteron through high-security space, then that settles it.
Agree with OP. Empire should be safer against this tactic. Someone in a cheap BC shouldn't be able to pick people off outside jita/rens whatever carrying bpo's for their corp. It makes the game unplayable in situations for many indy guys.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience New Eden Hardware Emporium
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Posted - 2009.11.02 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Harald Hausakluif Unless this suicide ganking nonsense is resolved, CCP will not be receiving any more of my monies. It is troublesome enough that 90% of the time playing this game I am warping somewhere, and the lack of documentation makes most things a matter of trial and error, but if I cannot even fly a damn iteron through high-security space, then that settles it.
You should try reading the wiki or one of a number of threads that offer survival tips and of course the obligatory how to tank.
If something is valuable it's worth using a more valuable/stronger ship so they don't go pop in three salvos.
Eve-online Industrial Organiser thread full batch manufacturing
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