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karate taco	Posted - 2004.11.02 20:55:00 - [1] My minarax is equipped with the following: Hi-slots: 5x Miner II Med-slots: 1x 10mn MWD I 1x Survey Scanner I 1x Cap Recharger I Lo-slots: 4x Co-processor 1x CPR Also equipped with 8x Wasps to fight off pirates somewhat. But the deal is, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to efficient equips and I'm guessing that I can improve this pretty much... do you have any advice?
karate taco	Posted - 2004.11.02 20:55:00 - [2] My minarax is equipped with the following: Hi-slots: 5x Miner II Med-slots: 1x 10mn MWD I 1x Survey Scanner I 1x Cap Recharger I Lo-slots: 4x Co-processor 1x CPR Also equipped with 8x Wasps to fight off pirates somewhat. But the deal is, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to efficient equips and I'm guessing that I can improve this pretty much... do you have any advice?
Veneth	Posted - 2004.11.02 21:19:00 - [3] The one obvious way to improve your setup is to train you electronics up so you don't need 4 Co-processors freeing up some low slots :) Survey Scanner is also pointless unless your mining in space where your worried about popping rare astroids. could possibly put a shield booster on instead to let you take some hits
Veneth	Posted - 2004.11.02 21:19:00 - [4] The one obvious way to improve your setup is to train you electronics up so you don't need 4 Co-processors freeing up some low slots :) Survey Scanner is also pointless unless your mining in space where your worried about popping rare astroids. could possibly put a shield booster on instead to let you take some hits
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2004.11.02 23:01:00 - [5] Well, first off, don't ever mine with a Thorax in any space below 0.5 security. It's a way too fragile build for that. You can fit 5 miner's II with just Electronics IV and three Quantum coprocs (that 8,05% one which are like 500K on Escrow). Fit a duo of cargo expanders so you can fit a full cycle into your bay (to prevent the annoying lasers-in-sequence-mode) and whatever else fits in the midslots. I'm pretty sure you can stick a 100mn AB in there. Fill her up with drones and you're good to go. Either way, when mining in .5 and up, it doesn't really matter what you're running, as long as it includes as many mining lasers as you have turret slots. For .4 and lower just stick with an Osprey (or Scythe), or, if you're a race-purist like me, use the Exequror. Way more flexible (although I admit the Exe requires quite some skills trained up to function properly as a low-sec mining vessel). Or just train up for a Megathron :-) ------------------------------------------------------- "Do you really think that's air you're breathing?"
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2004.11.02 23:01:00 - [6] Well, first off, don't ever mine with a Thorax in any space below 0.5 security. It's a way too fragile build for that. You can fit 5 miner's II with just Electronics IV and three Quantum coprocs (that 8,05% one which are like 500K on Escrow). Fit a duo of cargo expanders so you can fit a full cycle into your bay (to prevent the annoying lasers-in-sequence-mode) and whatever else fits in the midslots. I'm pretty sure you can stick a 100mn AB in there. Fill her up with drones and you're good to go. Either way, when mining in .5 and up, it doesn't really matter what you're running, as long as it includes as many mining lasers as you have turret slots. For .4 and lower just stick with an Osprey (or Scythe), or, if you're a race-purist like me, use the Exequror. Way more flexible (although I admit the Exe requires quite some skills trained up to function properly as a low-sec mining vessel). Or just train up for a Megathron :-) ------------------------------------------------------- "Do you really think that's air you're breathing?"
Fierce Deity	Posted - 2004.11.03 01:13:00 - [7] HI: x5 miner II MED: 1 mwd 2 cap rechargers LOW:2 nanomechanical co pros, 3 named expanders and a hold full of heavy drones of course you'll also want mineing and astro geo to about 4 and electronics to 4 ------FD------
Fierce Deity	Posted - 2004.11.03 01:13:00 - [8] HI: x5 miner II MED: 1 mwd 2 cap rechargers LOW:2 nanomechanical co pros, 3 named expanders and a hold full of heavy drones of course you'll also want mineing and astro geo to about 4 and electronics to 4 ------FD------
Kydor	Posted - 2004.11.03 23:14:00 - [9] another carebear rolls outta the production line If there are any troubles or questions please let us know. We will do our best to resolve any issues and promise not to place a curse on you or send trolls to eat your children! 2005.05.15 23:44:
Kydor	Posted - 2004.11.03 23:14:00 - [10] another carebear rolls outta the production line If there are any troubles or questions please let us know. We will do our best to resolve any issues and promise not to place a curse on you or send trolls to eat your children! 2005.05.15 23:44:
BioNeb	Posted - 2004.11.04 13:03:00 - [11] high: - 5 miners II medium: - survey scanner - MWD - cap rech I low: - 3 or 4 basic cpu I's - 1 or 2 expanders that's if ya got elektronics 5 and engineering 5, no need for RCU's
BioNeb	Posted - 2004.11.04 13:03:00 - [12] high: - 5 miners II medium: - survey scanner - MWD - cap rech I low: - 3 or 4 basic cpu I's - 1 or 2 expanders that's if ya got elektronics 5 and engineering 5, no need for RCU's
JD's	Posted - 2004.11.04 13:45:00 - [13] Edited by: JD's on 04/11/2004 13:47:32 Originally by: BioNeb - survey scanner hmm forget the survey scanner and just mine till they all pop fit a webby in case some noob in a frig or 'ceptor fancys a challenge
JD's	Posted - 2004.11.04 13:45:00 - [14] Edited by: JD's on 04/11/2004 13:47:32 Originally by: BioNeb - survey scanner hmm forget the survey scanner and just mine till they all pop fit a webby in case some noob in a frig or 'ceptor fancys a challenge
Aikudos En'Fellamen	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Well, first off, don't ever mine with a Thorax in any space below 0.5 security. It's a way too fragile build for that. Have you tried? Because I've mined for ages in a .3 before I moved into a BS, and the rax is perfectly capable of handling every rat spawn in those systems. You might want to fit a medium shield booster though, because your drones might not be able to kill them before they get to you. ___________________________________________ Aikudos En'Fellamen
Aikudos En'Fellamen	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:13:00 - [16] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Well, first off, don't ever mine with a Thorax in any space below 0.5 security. It's a way too fragile build for that. Have you tried? Because I've mined for ages in a .3 before I moved into a BS, and the rax is perfectly capable of handling every rat spawn in those systems. You might want to fit a medium shield booster though, because your drones might not be able to kill them before they get to you. ___________________________________________ Aikudos En'Fellamen
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:13:00 - [17] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Well, first off, don't ever mine with a Thorax in any space below 0.5 security. It's a way too fragile build for that. A thorax can mine just fine all the way down to 0.2. Ive done it a lot myself. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:13:00 - [18] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Well, first off, don't ever mine with a Thorax in any space below 0.5 security. It's a way too fragile build for that. A thorax can mine just fine all the way down to 0.2. Ive done it a lot myself. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Jarril	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:14:00 - [19] I generally use a Vexor for mining rather then my Rax as im told they are better, any truth to this? Obviously the vexor has 1 less hardpoint but the mining drone bonus is great if your mining high security belts.... Plus the cargo space in a vexor is like twice the size.
Jarril	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:14:00 - [20] I generally use a Vexor for mining rather then my Rax as im told they are better, any truth to this? Obviously the vexor has 1 less hardpoint but the mining drone bonus is great if your mining high security belts.... Plus the cargo space in a vexor is like twice the size.
Jim Steele	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:17:00 - [21] you should try an osprey, the mining bonus is awesome and its almost as good as a BS the only thing is it tends to pop easily, a good ninja miner tho usually can handle low sec space if there is a drone bs protecting it Death to the Galante
Jim Steele	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:17:00 - [22] you should try an osprey, the mining bonus is awesome and its almost as good as a BS the only thing is it tends to pop easily, a good ninja miner tho usually can handle low sec space if there is a drone bs protecting it Death to the Galante
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2004.11.06 09:46:00 - [23] Originally by: Barth3zzzNL Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Well, first off, don't ever mine with a Thorax in any space below 0.5 security. It's a way too fragile build for that. A thorax can mine just fine all the way down to 0.2. Ive done it a lot myself. Oh sure, it handles the spawns just fine. One pirate warps into your belt and you're a Thorax poorer which basically means you lost 2 to 3 hours of nonstop mining. An Osprey costs half a Thorax, mines better with the right skills and almost as good with cruiser trained to just 3, is easier to fit and can defend itself (or get away) once a pirate pays you a visit. ------------------------------------------------------- "Do you really think that's air you're breathing?"
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2004.11.06 09:46:00 - [24] Originally by: Barth3zzzNL Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Well, first off, don't ever mine with a Thorax in any space below 0.5 security. It's a way too fragile build for that. A thorax can mine just fine all the way down to 0.2. Ive done it a lot myself. Oh sure, it handles the spawns just fine. One pirate warps into your belt and you're a Thorax poorer which basically means you lost 2 to 3 hours of nonstop mining. An Osprey costs half a Thorax, mines better with the right skills and almost as good with cruiser trained to just 3, is easier to fit and can defend itself (or get away) once a pirate pays you a visit. ------------------------------------------------------- "Do you really think that's air you're breathing?"
Nyphur	Posted - 2004.11.06 13:06:00 - [25] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Oh sure, it handles the spawns just fine. One pirate warps into your belt and you're a Thorax poorer which basically means you lost 2 to 3 hours of nonstop mining. An Osprey costs half a Thorax, mines better with the right skills and almost as good with cruiser trained to just 3, is easier to fit and can defend itself (or get away) once a pirate pays you a visit. I usually fit a 10mn mwd to my thorax so I can kick myself into a ten second warp. That's essential to escaping in my mining setup. Always mine facing toward a distant object so you don't have to align much to warp out and be vigilant. Of course, that's only in 0.0 or something. 0.1 and above are fairly safe and losing a thorax if you're mining for a few days isn't much of a big deal. In 0.0, you'll be mining soem killer ore so losing a thorax is still pretty much nothing. Your first hour or two of mining pays for your thorax.
Nyphur	Posted - 2004.11.06 13:06:00 - [26] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Oh sure, it handles the spawns just fine. One pirate warps into your belt and you're a Thorax poorer which basically means you lost 2 to 3 hours of nonstop mining. An Osprey costs half a Thorax, mines better with the right skills and almost as good with cruiser trained to just 3, is easier to fit and can defend itself (or get away) once a pirate pays you a visit. I usually fit a 10mn mwd to my thorax so I can kick myself into a ten second warp. That's essential to escaping in my mining setup. Always mine facing toward a distant object so you don't have to align much to warp out and be vigilant. Of course, that's only in 0.0 or something. 0.1 and above are fairly safe and losing a thorax if you're mining for a few days isn't much of a big deal. In 0.0, you'll be mining soem killer ore so losing a thorax is still pretty much nothing. Your first hour or two of mining pays for your thorax.
Krulla	Posted - 2004.11.06 21:41:00 - [27] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Oh sure, it handles the spawns just fine. One pirate warps into your belt and you're a Thorax poorer which basically means you lost 2 to 3 hours of nonstop mining. An Osprey costs half a Thorax, mines better with the right skills and almost as good with cruiser trained to just 3, is easier to fit and can defend itself (or get away) once a pirate pays you a visit. How exactly is a single heavy missile launcher better defence than 8 heavy drones?
Krulla	Posted - 2004.11.06 21:41:00 - [28] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Oh sure, it handles the spawns just fine. One pirate warps into your belt and you're a Thorax poorer which basically means you lost 2 to 3 hours of nonstop mining. An Osprey costs half a Thorax, mines better with the right skills and almost as good with cruiser trained to just 3, is easier to fit and can defend itself (or get away) once a pirate pays you a visit. How exactly is a single heavy missile launcher better defence than 8 heavy drones?
Zyrla Bladestorm	Posted - 2004.11.06 21:57:00 - [29] Edited by: Zyrla Bladestorm on 06/11/2004 22:00:13 Originally by: Jarril I generally use a Vexor for mining rather then my Rax as im told they are better, any truth to this? Obviously the vexor has 1 less hardpoint but the mining drone bonus is great if your mining high security belts.... Plus the cargo space in a vexor is like twice the size. In a rax you use every single low slot for co-proz/cargo expanders and it will still be a very tight fitting and you will have to move the ore into your jetcan every 60 seconds without fail. You need harvesters for a vexor to mine faster than a rax, the main advantage is its much, much easier to setup with four miner II than five and you have nearly double the base cargo capacity, so you can mine for 60 seconds without any CE's, or only have to offload ore every 2 mins if you still cram it with CE's. Having the ability to control more drones can be helpfull in defending yourself against tougher npc rats also (or mining, as said if you have the drones) Personally I'd take the Vexor over the Thorax for mining any day. Though having said all of that, a Scythe or Osprey will mine faster than either of them with good skills :) . ----- Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
Zyrla Bladestorm	Posted - 2004.11.06 21:57:00 - [30] Edited by: Zyrla Bladestorm on 06/11/2004 22:00:13 Originally by: Jarril I generally use a Vexor for mining rather then my Rax as im told they are better, any truth to this? Obviously the vexor has 1 less hardpoint but the mining drone bonus is great if your mining high security belts.... Plus the cargo space in a vexor is like twice the size. In a rax you use every single low slot for co-proz/cargo expanders and it will still be a very tight fitting and you will have to move the ore into your jetcan every 60 seconds without fail. You need harvesters for a vexor to mine faster than a rax, the main advantage is its much, much easier to setup with four miner II than five and you have nearly double the base cargo capacity, so you can mine for 60 seconds without any CE's, or only have to offload ore every 2 mins if you still cram it with CE's. Having the ability to control more drones can be helpfull in defending yourself against tougher npc rats also (or mining, as said if you have the drones) Personally I'd take the Vexor over the Thorax for mining any day. Though having said all of that, a Scythe or Osprey will mine faster than either of them with good skills :) . ----- Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.

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