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Kail Storm
Caldari
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.11.02 01:58:00 -
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ok so I have been sick the whole week with the flu, when I got back on my comp to read forums my Ship Chart was up and I started to look at it seriously and I noticed something strange....
The cald ships were by far the smallest in the entire game as a whole, the Rokh which before I thought was a massive Giant bas big or bigger than the other bs`s is actually way smaller than a mega and actually smaller than the Geddon which is the smallest of the Amar ships heres a basic list from biggest to smallest of BS`s
Hyp is by far the largest in length and width...By far 1700meters and very ery wide at its cross section.
Machriel is next very long 1900 meters long but way shorter in hieght
Apoc-1570m
Mael-1450m
Abby-1230m but very stout.
Mega-huge
Domi-884m but huge can fit literally 3 ravens in its size.
Rohk-1000m but very narrow
Raven-570m and equally or a bit longer sideways
Scorp- Very small also
Anyways go look at the chart I will try to link it again and see how puny not just the Cald BS`s are but its ships in general, it has pretty big BC`s but besides that not much.
My point was while the cald ships are by far the smallest, there sig radius`s are by far the largest? Doesnt make sense at all if anyone has eyes you can see there is no way if size mattered to target that you could lock a raven before...Well any BS.
Gals ships are massive plain and simple, Amarr has the huge Apoc and Abby and Min ships have a giant Mael thats as almost as tall, now if sig radius is really that there is now way its adding up. The Scorp is smaller almost than the myrm, Lol.
But It would make sense that if these ships were heavily armor tanked and we are talking Projectiles the size of Volkwagons and focus crystals the size of f-15 jets that the armor would be massive since a real ww2 navy BS was hell 9 inchs of plate and almost 4 ft of ribbing etc etc.
So I understand the armor making the ships huge, my Idea is this since in the Eve world cald ships have the biggest Sig Rad im assuming its because they Shield tank and have to have massive Nanite Shield walls etc that extend far beyond the actual ships, and amor ships that have poor shields might have ver ytiny [thin] layers of Shields and thus making them smaller so...
Why not have 3 diff signiture layers,
For instance Since Cald ships have massive shields keep the Sig radius of the Raven 460 but as its shields get blasted away the very small ship emerges and the Sig is greatly reduced say to its 300m size. this is not just realistic since once the raven has no shields is the size of a BC but it also gives the game more layers and gives a little protection more for your "OFF tank" defense, since cald sucks at armor you could say it prob barely has armor plating on it and thas why its way smaller.
This would not effect the locking times which I do thin kare important since cald has higher ECM etc, But it would be great for min ships since they would have the even sig layers say 300/300/300
Amarr and Gal would probably be like they are now where amarr has small shield sig rad [and fast lock times] way bigger sig radius for armor due to its super Hi Armor Hp and its size of plating.
Gal would have slightly smaller sig radius in armor [would help tanking sometimes] Very small in shields but since its massive structure HP it would get a very large sig radius for structure.
This IMO would add more flavor and more tactics and would explain so many more things in Eve, Flame on 
If someone could link the ships chart I`d appreciate it.
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Nicolete StarKiller
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Posted - 2009.11.02 21:36:00 -
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Would add a bunch of realism and layers to game, except i would lose EHP in my Domi since they could track better.
But it is the best realistic way to add depth.
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Raw Matters
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Posted - 2009.11.02 23:35:00 -
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I do not see how this makes ships more different.
The change would in general make ships weaker in their strong tanking area and stronger in their weak tanking area and therefore make all ships more alike.
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Pan Dora
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.11.03 00:34:00 -
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Signature radious are no meant to be realistic, they are maent to be balanced from a gameplay perspective.
Also we dont need ideias to make EVE different, we need ideia to make EVE better.
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Gavin McStine
Gallente
M.A.G.E.C
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Posted - 2009.11.03 03:08:00 -
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sig radius is the diffrence between a bome being droped on a person vs a missile heading to a dot on a persons forhead. The person is the same size its just ones more of a target then the other, eather way both are dead. It would make sense that caldari are the smallest ships. Gallente have rules and if you read in the storys generaly have nice living quarters and more people on a ship/warpgate. So they need to be bigger, Amarr may have a church for the ships crew. Minmarter may have huge hollow ducks for them to get into an area of a ship and do repairs for the 6th time in an hour. Caldari doesnt have much in the way of comiditys, perhaps they have a group shower instead of a shower for every room like a gallent or amarr,(maybe minmarter too for some of the higher ranking members, if they take showers or even have working showers)
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Hitomi Yamada
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:29:00 -
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Edited by: Hitomi Yamada on 16/11/2009 22:30:37
 Originally by: Gavin McStine
sig radius is the diffrence between a bome being droped on a person vs a missile heading to a dot on a persons forhead. The person is the same size its just ones more of a target then the other, eather way both are dead. It would make sense that caldari are the smallest ships. Gallente have rules and if you read in the storys generaly have nice living quarters and more people on a ship/warpgate. So they need to be bigger, Amarr may have a church for the ships crew. Minmarter may have huge hollow ducks for them to get into an area of a ship and do repairs for the 6th time in an hour. Caldari doesnt have much in the way of comiditys, perhaps they have a group shower instead of a shower for every room like a gallent or amarr,(maybe minmarter too for some of the higher ranking members, if they take showers or even have working showers)
Showers on a minmatar ship?
There's a reason Minmatar women turn to be Gallentean Pleasure Hub slaves willingly (as per lore), and I don't think it's the cafeteria.
As for my input on the OP...
Signature Radius isn't the size of the ship.
Signature Radius is how big the ship /appears/ to onboard sensors.
Caldari ships are incredibly CPU intensive, making them massive on the sig radius scale.
Size of the ship doesn't matter.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.11.16 23:07:00 -
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F18 superhornet as a signature radius of a sea gull, the f35 is a golf ball, and the nighthawk is around a pin head size.
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