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Admiral Farragut	Posted - 2009.11.08 09:06:00 - [1] Hey guys, I received the bill for my credit card in the mail earlier this week, and I saw that I was being billed for eve online. However, I had cancelled my subscription back in August... Then I remembered, I had filed a petition to reactivate my account for 1 day free of charge so that I could give back a BPO to a friend. After the 1 day free was up, I could no longer log into eve... However, it turned out that 30 days after the 1 day free reactivation, my account was automatically rebilling itself. I have been charged for 2 months of playtime, yet I have not logged in or been around for it. I did not authorize these charges! So, lesson learned, CCP's system may be glitchy and billing you for time, even though you did not authorize any charges! Make sure you check your monthly statements! I have filed a petition, but so far I have not gotten a response. Tomorrow I will contest these charges with my credit card company if CCP does not credit my account.
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2009.11.08 09:20:00 - [2] The one day reactivation is given under the assumption that you are using a plex to reactivate your account. It is not meant to be abused to "give itams to ur frenz". You got served. Sig Gallery is currently down: Contact me ingame for prices.
Admiral Farragut	Posted - 2009.11.08 09:21:00 - [3] Originally by: Sader Rykane The one day reactivation is given under the assumption that you are using a plex to reactivate your account. It is not meant to be abused to "give itams to ur frenz". You got served. I was going to reactivate, but I changed my mind last minute... eve takes up too much time. What CCP did is unlawful, as I never authorized the charges.
NiGHTSintodreams Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.11.08 09:33:00 - [4] How dare CCP give you a free day. Get the pitchforks and torches; we're goin' huntin'. --- It's a dream paradox...
Manos Heimenbarger	Posted - 2009.11.08 09:49:00 - [5] Originally by: Admiral Farragut Then I remembered, I had filed a petition to reactivate my account for 1 day free of charge so that I could give back a BPO to a friend. Originally by: Admiral Farragut I was going to reactivate, but I changed my mind last minute... eve takes up too much time. Contradiction... You went from saying you just wanted to give a BPO to a friend to deciding to reactivate, but then changing your mind last minute. Waiting for backpedalling.
Admiral Farragut	Posted - 2009.11.08 09:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger Originally by: Admiral Farragut Then I remembered, I had filed a petition to reactivate my account for 1 day free of charge so that I could give back a BPO to a friend. Originally by: Admiral Farragut I was going to reactivate, but I changed my mind last minute... eve takes up too much time. Contradiction... You went from saying you just wanted to give a BPO to a friend to deciding to reactivate, but then changing your mind last minute. Waiting for backpedalling. lawl, you are reading into it too much. The ultimate result was just me giving him a BPO back, but the original intent was to purchase a PLEX. I figured I would spare you guys the details, though.
Captian Conrad Minmatar Empyrean Warriors	Posted - 2009.11.08 11:18:00 - [7] Edited by: Captian Conrad on 08/11/2009 11:21:38 Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger Contradiction... You went from saying you just wanted to give a BPO to a friend to deciding to reactivate, but then changing your mind last minute. , Admiral Farragut was unaware what he was doing at the time and i have no comment or disclosure to what he was doing, and hes badgering the witness your honour! (A joke btw all)
Jovoich Kleinrock Heavy Industries The Kadeshi	Posted - 2009.11.08 11:26:00 - [8] Edited by: Jovoich on 08/11/2009 11:26:21 To be fair tho guys. Regardless of why he requested the 1 day activation. He didn't give CCP permission to bill his card and I would tend to agree it wouldn't hold up in a court of law. I call 'Bull****' CCP. Isn't it great that the alchemy process was introduced & can 'take up the slack?'
Mystri	Posted - 2009.11.08 13:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Admiral Farragut Hey guys, I received the bill for my credit card in the mail earlier this week, and I saw that I was being billed for eve online. However, I had cancelled my subscription back in August... Then I remembered, I had filed a petition to reactivate my account for 1 day free of charge so that I could give back a BPO to a friend. After the 1 day free was up, I could no longer log into eve... However, it turned out that 30 days after the 1 day free reactivation, my account was automatically rebilling itself. I have been charged for 2 months of playtime, yet I have not logged in or been around for it. I did not authorize these charges! So, lesson learned, CCP's system may be glitchy and billing you for time, even though you did not authorize any charges! Make sure you check your monthly statements! I have filed a petition, but so far I have not gotten a response. Tomorrow I will contest these charges with my credit card company if CCP does not credit my account. To play Devil's Advocate... So you missed last month's CC statement that showed the debit? You also missed the monthly email from CCP informing you that you were charged? Technically you did. Originally by: Admiral Farragut lawl, you are reading into it too much. The ultimate result was just me giving him a BPO back, but the original intent was to purchase a PLEX. I figured I would spare you guys the details, though. Thanks for sparing us the details. I guess we will have to try and read between the lines from the limited information you chose to divulge. If you are genuine (which is a tad suspect), then CCP will have logs showing that you have not logged on for the past couple of months. Mystri
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2009.11.08 13:41:00 - [10] So you thought you could get free playtime to "give a BPO to a friend", with "the intention to reactivate" and now you're mad you got charged for getting what you wanted? Free jumpclone service: Thread
Gonada Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.08 14:54:00 - [11] Edited by: Gonada on 08/11/2009 14:55:17 Originally by: Admiral Farragut Originally by: Sader Rykane The one day reactivation is given under the assumption that you are using a plex to reactivate your account. It is not meant to be abused to "give itams to ur frenz". You got served. I was going to reactivate, but I changed my mind last minute... eve takes up too much time. What CCP did is unlawful, as I never authorized the charges. no, you perpetuated fraud in order to achieve your goal. you got served, hope CCP laughs at you , idiot.
Oscardoodle Amarr	Posted - 2009.11.08 15:03:00 - [12] If this indeed happened as you said, then it is an error that your credit card company needs to be informed of immediately...even before you petition CCP. They can contact CCP and settle the matter much quicker than it will be solved by posting on the forums. Always always always ALWAYS contact your credit card company or bank immediately if you notice any unauthorized charges. Never never never NEVER trust the company who's charging you without your authorization to take care of the issue.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.11.08 15:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Mystri missed the monthly email from CCP informing you that you were charged? The WHAT ? Since when ? Do you get an email from CCP saying you are being charged ? Note : I am on a yearly payment plan plus buddy program bonuses that make my billing period longer than one year, so I haven't been on the monthly payplan for ages, therefore can't confirm nor deny this. _ We are recruiting \| Beginer's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2009.11.08 15:10:00 - [14] I sometimes get random emails from different account that I'm being charged, once in a blue moon. In true CCP style it's not structural or logical. ----------- ADM-I
Korizan Red Mercury Incorporated	Posted - 2009.11.08 15:18:00 - [15] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Mystri missed the monthly email from CCP informing you that you were charged? The WHAT ? Since when ? Do you get an email from CCP saying you are being charged ? Note : I am on a yearly payment plan plus buddy program bonuses that make my billing period longer than one year, so I haven't been on the monthly payplan for ages, therefore can't confirm nor deny this. Confirmed every time CCP charges they send a E-mail out stating such. I think it started around Apochypha release @ least I have notices as far back as that.
KaarBaak Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.11.08 15:43:00 - [16] I had a charge dispute on another MMO. Had the CC company reverse the charge no prob. Only drawback was that the MMO perma-banned the account. KB KB Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2009.11.08 16:25:00 - [17] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 08/11/2009 16:26:11 Originally by: Admiral Farragut Hey guys, I received the bill for my credit card in the mail earlier this week, and I saw that I was being billed for eve online. However, I had cancelled my subscription back in August... Then I remembered, I had filed a petition to reactivate my account for 1 day free of charge so that I could give back a BPO to a friend. After the 1 day free was up, I could no longer log into eve... However, it turned out that 30 days after the 1 day free reactivation, my account was automatically rebilling itself. I have been charged for 2 months of playtime, yet I have not logged in or been around for it. I did not authorize these charges! So, lesson learned, CCP's system may be glitchy and billing you for time, even though you did not authorize any charges! Make sure you check your monthly statements! I have filed a petition, but so far I have not gotten a response. Tomorrow I will contest these charges with my credit card company if CCP does not credit my account. As I see it: 1. You ask CCP for 1 day activation so you could activate the game with intention to playing. 2. When you log in, you start playing the game, and the first thing you do is transfering a BPO 3. You have a change of mind. You dont want to play anyway. 4. CCP who only grants a free day to players who plan to activate the game with a plex see this breach of your intention, in addition to you playing the game by moving items found on character to another one. 5. They rightfully bill you for playng the game, which you applied for: to play the game. 6. You emorage since you aint able to play for free. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Pater Peccavi Minmatar The Bastards	Posted - 2009.11.08 16:31:00 - [18] Certainly, the best way to deal with any billing issue is to immediately post on the forums _________
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.11.08 18:12:00 - [19] WE WILL NEVER LET YOU GO. Come back... join us.... its fun..... dont leave us.... SKUNK (o)
Admiral Farragut	Posted - 2009.11.08 19:05:00 - [20] Originally by: Mystri Originally by: Admiral Farragut Hey guys, I received the bill for my credit card in the mail earlier this week, and I saw that I was being billed for eve online. However, I had cancelled my subscription back in August... Then I remembered, I had filed a petition to reactivate my account for 1 day free of charge so that I could give back a BPO to a friend. After the 1 day free was up, I could no longer log into eve... However, it turned out that 30 days after the 1 day free reactivation, my account was automatically rebilling itself. I have been charged for 2 months of playtime, yet I have not logged in or been around for it. I did not authorize these charges! So, lesson learned, CCP's system may be glitchy and billing you for time, even though you did not authorize any charges! Make sure you check your monthly statements! I have filed a petition, but so far I have not gotten a response. Tomorrow I will contest these charges with my credit card company if CCP does not credit my account. To play Devil's Advocate... So you missed last month's CC statement that showed the debit? You also missed the monthly email from CCP informing you that you were charged? Technically you did. Originally by: Admiral Farragut lawl, you are reading into it too much. The ultimate result was just me giving him a BPO back, but the original intent was to purchase a PLEX. I figured I would spare you guys the details, though. Thanks for sparing us the details. I guess we will have to try and read between the lines from the limited information you chose to divulge. If you are genuine (which is a tad suspect), then CCP will have logs showing that you have not logged on for the past couple of months. I just contested these charges; the credit card company put the amount back into my account. But, here are a few details. Last week I just received the bill from Sept 17th to Oct 16th. It's not like i could have responded months ago... I don't do electronic banking. Also, no I have not logged into eve at all since the 1 day reactivation. Hell, I even uninstalled eve from my computer.
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.11.08 19:26:00 - [21] Why did this need a thread? Veal, murder. Baby Carrots, healthy snack. Food hypocrisy at work.
Captian Conrad Minmatar Empyrean Warriors	Posted - 2009.11.08 19:30:00 - [22] Next time dont wine on a forums contact CCP billing, we dont have anything to do with ccp billing we just pay them and technally your using your account atm by posting on these fourms Sometimes i think people prey on attention /Troll feed
Admiral Farragut	Posted - 2009.11.09 03:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Khemul Zula Why did this need a thread? I made this thread to warn others of what has happened to me. If it happened to me, it can happen to anybody! Check your monthly statements!
Graegar	Posted - 2009.11.09 03:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker As I see it: 1. You ask CCP for 1 day activation so you could activate the game with intention to playing. 2. When you log in, you start playing the game, and the first thing you do is transfering a BPO 3. You have a change of mind. You dont want to play anyway. 4. CCP who only grants a free day to players who plan to activate the game with a plex see this breach of your intention, in addition to you playing the game by moving items found on character to another one. 5. They rightfully bill you for playng the game, which you applied for: to play the game. 6. You emorage since you aint able to play for free. What is righfull about them billing you for 1 month (or 2 as he says)? The one day reactivation is done by ccp to actually lower the bar for people to return to the game.Its a marketing instrument. You ask for 24h of gameplay and they give that, you didnt ask for a 30 day billing on your CC.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.11.09 03:32:00 - [25] I can only assume that as you got the 1 free day and your payment method was still credit card, as you never applied a plex/gtc, that you got charged when that free day ended. had you not logged in on the free day to do things in game, and then again log into use the forum service I'm pretty sure ccp would be happy to refund you. ah well w/e your problem.
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.11.09 04:13:00 - [26] Originally by: Admiral Farragut Originally by: Khemul Zula Why did this need a thread? I made this thread to warn others of what has happened to me. If it happened to me, it can happen to anybody! Check your monthly statements! So you posted, on a forum where only people with active acounts can post, a warning that CCP may have activated their account without their knowledge. Veal, murder. Baby Carrots, healthy snack. Food hypocrisy at work.
Ryhss Caldari Sarum A Fortiori Sanctimony of Bellum	Posted - 2009.11.09 04:26:00 - [27] Originally by: Admiral Farragut Originally by: Sader Rykane The one day reactivation is given under the assumption that you are using a plex to reactivate your account. It is not meant to be abused to "give itams to ur frenz". You got served. I was going to reactivate, but I changed my mind last minute... eve takes up too much time. What CCP did is unlawful, as I never authorized the charges. Read the EULA, you did authorize CCP by clicking yes/ccept or whatever it is.
Graegar	Posted - 2009.11.09 04:44:00 - [28] Originally by: Ryhss Originally by: Admiral Farragut Originally by: Sader Rykane The one day reactivation is given under the assumption that you are using a plex to reactivate your account. It is not meant to be abused to "give itams to ur frenz". You got served. I was going to reactivate, but I changed my mind last minute... eve takes up too much time. What CCP did is unlawful, as I never authorized the charges. Read the EULA, you did authorize CCP by clicking yes/ccept or whatever it is. How ******ed are you? he didnt ask for a 30 day subscription he asked for a day to get a plex something ccp gives for free (i assume they have a limit on how many times a year they do it tho). It has nothing to do with a end user license agreement. Hai ccp can i haz 24h to resub? Sure customer here have a free 24h pass and we hope you will stay for attleast 30 more days. He asked for a 24h renewal and ccp grants that in the hope u stay longer he never asked to be re-subscribed. Its marketing stupid! He might not have gotten that 30 day extention via a plex but he also didnt agree on a automatic renewal of his subscription. I do hope you understand if you get a in game plex for isk that you wont be billed on your CC right. The cc billing is a mistake.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2009.11.09 04:57:00 - [29] Whatever, just contract all the remaining stuff on your account, your obviously unhappy with EVE and have no use for it Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe

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