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Lansfear	Posted - 2004.11.05 07:53:00 - [1] Damage is leeking into armor with 20% shields left and same for structure. Damage behaves like it did before the patch that fixed it.
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.11.05 07:53:00 - [2] Damage is leeking into armor with 20% shields left and same for structure. Damage behaves like it did before the patch that fixed it.
ElCoCo	Posted - 2004.11.05 08:19:00 - [3] Erm that happens with all the ships, not just assault. From patchnotes : Damage leaking through armor has been altered so the hull does not start sustaining damage until armor is 25% of maximum hitpoints. Damage will no longer leak through the hull to modules, this was preventing a ship's destruction when modules were at 0 health. I don`t think there is any change to dmg leaking through shields/armor besides those two so it`s intended
ElCoCo	Posted - 2004.11.05 08:19:00 - [4] Erm that happens with all the ships, not just assault. From patchnotes : Damage leaking through armor has been altered so the hull does not start sustaining damage until armor is 25% of maximum hitpoints. Damage will no longer leak through the hull to modules, this was preventing a ship's destruction when modules were at 0 health. I don`t think there is any change to dmg leaking through shields/armor besides those two so it`s intended
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2004.11.05 09:06:00 - [5] lansfear you dirty cat!
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2004.11.05 09:06:00 - [6] lansfear you dirty cat!
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.11.05 10:09:00 - [7] Just more noticable with assault frigs as you have higher resistance which means you spend reletively more time in less than 20% zone. __________ Capacitor research
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.11.05 10:09:00 - [8] Just more noticable with assault frigs as you have higher resistance which means you spend reletively more time in less than 20% zone. __________ Capacitor research
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.11.05 16:10:00 - [9] Edited by: Lansfear on 05/11/2004 16:13:31 Originally by: Dust Puppy Just more noticable with assault frigs as you have higher resistance which means you spend reletively more time in less than 20% zone. This could be true, but I'm sure it's a bit more drastic than that otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it. Usualy leekage doesnt start til about 5-10%. Damage is applying to armor/structure with shields/armor near 20%. I think its a bug.
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.11.05 16:10:00 - [10] Edited by: Lansfear on 05/11/2004 16:13:31 Originally by: Dust Puppy Just more noticable with assault frigs as you have higher resistance which means you spend reletively more time in less than 20% zone. This could be true, but I'm sure it's a bit more drastic than that otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it. Usualy leekage doesnt start til about 5-10%. Damage is applying to armor/structure with shields/armor near 20%. I think its a bug.
Toran Mehtar	Posted - 2004.11.05 16:13:00 - [11] Actually, I noticed the other day that my retribution had lost a % or two of armour, yet my shield was at 50-60% when I noticed. I thought I was just going mad, but if somebody else has seen something similar, then I'll have to watch more closely from now on.
Toran Mehtar	Posted - 2004.11.05 16:13:00 - [12] Actually, I noticed the other day that my retribution had lost a % or two of armour, yet my shield was at 50-60% when I noticed. I thought I was just going mad, but if somebody else has seen something similar, then I'll have to watch more closely from now on.
Gabriel BriGGs	Posted - 2004.11.05 16:30:00 - [13] A few days ago my tristan was hit and went down to 1/4 armor while i still had 75% of my shields.. i wasnt to impressed with that! -------------------------------------------- I've had the same Gurista Imputor on my tail for the past 16 systems.. 2004.08.16 21:38:37 - Combat: Your 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Blood Sage, wrecking for 324.9 damage.
Gabriel BriGGs	Posted - 2004.11.05 16:30:00 - [14] A few days ago my tristan was hit and went down to 1/4 armor while i still had 75% of my shields.. i wasnt to impressed with that! -------------------------------------------- I've had the same Gurista Imputor on my tail for the past 16 systems.. 2004.08.16 21:38:37 - Combat: Your 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Blood Sage, wrecking for 324.9 damage.
Grimpak	Posted - 2004.11.05 17:00:00 - [15] maybe it's a bit of lag? ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Grimpak	Posted - 2004.11.05 17:00:00 - [16] maybe it's a bit of lag? ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.11.05 17:03:00 - [17] If I have the equip-mwd-to-repackaged-ship capacitor bug and don't bother docking/relogging, my capacitor will charge naturally and work ok. Problem is, the first piece of damage to your shields wipes off almost 80% and you get instant-armour bleed through/ LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.11.05 17:03:00 - [18] If I have the equip-mwd-to-repackaged-ship capacitor bug and don't bother docking/relogging, my capacitor will charge naturally and work ok. Problem is, the first piece of damage to your shields wipes off almost 80% and you get instant-armour bleed through/ LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Toran Mehtar	Posted - 2004.11.05 17:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Grimpak maybe it's a bit of lag? What, my shields warped in 30 seconds after me ? Seriously, I'm more than happy to blame lag for pretty much anything, but I'd love to hear how you explain it for this.
Toran Mehtar	Posted - 2004.11.05 17:05:00 - [20] Originally by: Grimpak maybe it's a bit of lag? What, my shields warped in 30 seconds after me ? Seriously, I'm more than happy to blame lag for pretty much anything, but I'd love to hear how you explain it for this.
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.11.05 17:20:00 - [21] I doubt damage to shield is a simple if sentence in EVE. That is there is no code that says if (shield < 20%). Probably it is just a random variable multiplied by a function so that it barely noticable when shield is above 20% and then more and more damage start "leaking" through. Since assault frigates have higher resistance than normal frigs the shield and armor goes down more slowly. The opponent then get's more shots at you in the and the more shots the more likely it is that one of them goes through to the next layer. Does anyone know what the hell I'm talking about? __________ Capacitor research
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.11.05 17:20:00 - [22] I doubt damage to shield is a simple if sentence in EVE. That is there is no code that says if (shield < 20%). Probably it is just a random variable multiplied by a function so that it barely noticable when shield is above 20% and then more and more damage start "leaking" through. Since assault frigates have higher resistance than normal frigs the shield and armor goes down more slowly. The opponent then get's more shots at you in the and the more shots the more likely it is that one of them goes through to the next layer. Does anyone know what the hell I'm talking about? __________ Capacitor research
Nerhtal Al'Thali	Posted - 2004.11.05 18:02:00 - [23] lol, "wait, shields are still warping to you - cannot activate shield boosters." "Game Experience And Dev Opinions May Change With The Time Of Day During Online Play" Oveur "First in, last out" Bridgeburner Motto
Nerhtal Al'Thali	Posted - 2004.11.05 18:02:00 - [24] lol, "wait, shields are still warping to you - cannot activate shield boosters." "Game Experience And Dev Opinions May Change With The Time Of Day During Online Play" Oveur "First in, last out" Bridgeburner Motto
Nyphur	Posted - 2004.11.05 19:12:00 - [25] The percentage of damage leaked is calculated before resistances are taken into account. Your hull has no resistances and therefore letting your armour get below 25% if you're taking a lot of base damage but have really high armour resistances means that a disproportionately large amount of damage will be dealt to your hull. Solution? Keep your armour above 25% or your hull might give out before your armour :S.
Nyphur	Posted - 2004.11.05 19:12:00 - [26] The percentage of damage leaked is calculated before resistances are taken into account. Your hull has no resistances and therefore letting your armour get below 25% if you're taking a lot of base damage but have really high armour resistances means that a disproportionately large amount of damage will be dealt to your hull. Solution? Keep your armour above 25% or your hull might give out before your armour :S.
Directive	Posted - 2004.11.05 21:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Nyphur The percentage of damage leaked is calculated before resistances are taken into account. Your hull has no resistances and therefore letting your armour get below 25% if you're taking a lot of base damage but have really high armour resistances means that a disproportionately large amount of damage will be dealt to your hull. Solution? Keep your armour above 25% or your hull might give out before your armour :S. And train Tactical Shield Manipulation skill, esp. if you're shieldtanking: Originally by: Skill description Operation of shield hardeners and other advanced shield modules. Bonus: 5% reduced chance of damage penetrating the shield.
Directive	Posted - 2004.11.05 21:58:00 - [28] Originally by: Nyphur The percentage of damage leaked is calculated before resistances are taken into account. Your hull has no resistances and therefore letting your armour get below 25% if you're taking a lot of base damage but have really high armour resistances means that a disproportionately large amount of damage will be dealt to your hull. Solution? Keep your armour above 25% or your hull might give out before your armour :S. And train Tactical Shield Manipulation skill, esp. if you're shieldtanking: Originally by: Skill description Operation of shield hardeners and other advanced shield modules. Bonus: 5% reduced chance of damage penetrating the shield.

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