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Velocity Prime
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.11.14 20:26:00 -
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The formation of the Sandbox Protection Party is seen by some a ray of light in a dimming universe, while others view it as an extremist organization, if not utter BS.
And thatÆs cool.
But what they fail to realize is that there are players and CSM candidates out there looking to do away with what is viewed as ôcriminal practicesö in EVE.
Case in point:
In the latest episode of Planet Risk, the hosts interviewed several CSM candidates, one of which was Stormaxe Titanothere.
51:48 into the show, Quivering Palm poses the question:
ôWe have seen a lot of suggestions being posted in the Assembly Hall. Has there been a single suggestion that made you think to yourself, æBoy, if I were elected to the council, thatÆs the first thing that IÆm going to push', and if so, which one [suggestion] is that, and why?ö
56:00 Stormaxe responds:
ôOne of the things that I know that I really would like to see, kind of at the top of my list, is salvaging thieves.ö
He then goes on to talk about how he thinks that salvaging in its current implementation is really just a relic of a mechanic from several years ago, should be considered akin to can flipping, and thus salvagers gain aggro from salvaging mission wrecks.
The Sandbox Preservation Party supports salvaging in its current implementation, meaning the salvage found in a wreck belongs to the first person that gets to it, for the simple fact that it is more conducive to an open-ended universe. We do not support mission runners having ownership of the salvage.
Personally, I pray to be shot at when I am salvaging a mission (as I loot every single mission that I scan down). That's my playstyle though, and not all ninjas will loot. I just like to kill mission runners. Some ninjas will only collect salvage from the wrecks - again, salvage that has no legal owner until it is in your cargo hold.
The fact of the matter is that given the opportunity, 95% of mission runners will not shoot at a ninja salvager, even if they do have aggro rights. They simply wonÆt do it. I wouldn't expect them to start shooting if the salvage ownership mechanics were changed.
Anyway, yes. CSM candidates are working to change the mechanics of salvaging. Stormaxe is not alone in his thinking however, heÆs just one of many that think the same way. All you have to do is browse the EVE ûO forums a bit to find an instance where someone is working to take away your options in the sandbox.
Save the Sandbox. Power to the Players. Logit Probit for CSM4.
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Moranda Morland
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Posted - 2009.11.15 16:31:00 -
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There really should be some sort of aptitude test before someone is allowed to vote in any type of election.
"I'm not going to kiss any 4sses and I'm not trying to cultivate a band of groupies. I'm putting myself forward as a CSM candidate because 1. I want a free vacation to Iceland and CCP headquarters"
Goes to show you what happens when one idiot gets backed by a larger group of idiots.
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Velocity Prime
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.11.15 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Moranda Morland There really should be some sort of aptitude test before someone is allowed to vote in any type of election.
"I'm not going to kiss any 4sses and I'm not trying to cultivate a band of groupies. I'm putting myself forward as a CSM candidate because 1. I want a free vacation to Iceland and CCP headquarters"
Goes to show you what happens when one idiot gets backed by a larger group of idiots.
Pro sandbox Anti ass-hat
1) Post with your main.
2) Recalibrate you sarcasm meter.
3) Try to make it less obvious that you like to troll Logit's threads.
4) If you can deny the quotes from the competion in the OP, then you are either A) a carebear and in favor of WoW in space, or B) You didn't read the article. I'm guessing the later.
VelociLogic.com |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.15 17:09:00 -
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I agree wholeheartedly, except for your last line ;)
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Moranda Morland
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Posted - 2009.11.15 17:55:00 -
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Hmmm lets see here,
Post with main generic comment-Check
Go back to wow/hello kitty generic comment-check
yup your an ass-hat *applauds*
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Ashina Sito
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.11.15 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Velocity Prime
Personally, I pray to be shot at when I am salvaging a mission (as I loot every single mission that I scan down). I just like to kill mission runners.
I killed one of your guys, he lost a Pilgrim (got it on video ). Since then then not a single TEARS pilot has engaged my ship while on a mission. I did have one of your guys scan down then loot a wreak. He warped off before I could lock never to be seen again. It's quite unfortunate. I love killing pirates who think they found a sucker, only to be suckered themselves. I even bought/skilled for a Proteus so I could draw the flies but that did not work, even sitting in a mission with an MWD running got no results.
Too be fair I saw that pilgrim pilot undock in a Navy Mega and figured WTH. I was gonna go cheap and use the @ 0m bug to disable his guns but, the closest I got was 167m. Unfortunate since I would have beaten him handily if I had just kept up the range.
Ashina Sito for CSM
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Logit Probit
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Posted - 2009.11.15 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Moranda Morland There really should be some sort of aptitude test before someone is allowed to vote in any type of election.
"I'm not going to kiss any 4sses and I'm not trying to cultivate a band of groupies. I'm putting myself forward as a CSM candidate because 1. I want a free vacation to Iceland and CCP headquarters"
Goes to show you what happens when one idiot gets backed by a larger group of idiots.
Pro sandbox Anti ass-hat
You could at least have the decency to post my entire quote. Here it is:
Originally by: Logit Probit
Originally by: pleasewontyoulikeme
Anyone else be glad when CSM is over and we aren't subjected to these threads anymore?
also it seems like being the "voice" for the ninja salvager/can flippers would be about as degrading as being the voice for purse snatchers and people that pull off those huge liquor store jobs... Rolling Eyes
I'm not going to kiss any 4sses and I'm not trying to cultivate a band of groupies. I'm putting myself forward as a CSM candidate because
1. I want a free vacation to Iceland and CCP headquarters (anyone who says that isn't their main motivation is a liar or an idiot) and
2. I'm willing to donate considerable time and energy advocating for ninjas & highsec scumbags, because I love EvE and I love stealing from and killing mission runners.
If my fellow scumbags decide to waste their votes on lowsec pirates who won't represent their interests on CSM, or on popularity-obsessed egomaniacs who post more than they play, that's their loss.
As far as this being a repeat thread, I'm not going to spend hours on the forums just so I can necro some old post, that's for losers.
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Velocity Prime
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.11.17 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Velocity Prime on 17/11/2009 14:51:04
Originally by: Ashina Sito
Originally by: Velocity Prime
Personally, I pray to be shot at when I am salvaging a mission (as I loot every single mission that I scan down). I just like to kill mission runners.
I killed one of your guys, he lost a Pilgrim (got it on video ). Since then then not a single TEARS pilot has engaged my ship while on a mission. I did have one of your guys scan down then loot a wreak. He warped off before I could lock never to be seen again. It's quite unfortunate. I love killing pirates who think they found a sucker, only to be suckered themselves. I even bought/skilled for a Proteus so I could draw the flies but that did not work, even sitting in a mission with an MWD running got no results.
Too be fair I saw that pilgrim pilot undock in a Navy Mega and figured WTH. I was gonna go cheap and use the @ 0m bug to disable his guns but, the closest I got was 167m. Unfortunate since I would have beaten him handily if I had just kept up the range.
Congrats.
Yes, it is possible to blow people up who loot your missions. Who'da thunk? And, it promotes player interaction as well as a sense of accomplishment when you do so. Good show mate! It beats just whining about it, eh?
Now as for a CSM candidate bashing my my thread and the people I support with stories of e-peen wagging.... Now that just shows poor judgement. Hopefully you will show more should you be voted into office.
VelociLogic.com |
Lau Qvist
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Posted - 2009.11.17 15:44:00 -
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Is this just an FYI post or is there a point to it? besides the vote for Logit bit at the end, which could have been posted in the other thread suspiciously lacking content that you created recently. |
Velocity Prime
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.11.17 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lau Qvist Is this just an FYI post or is there a point to it? besides the vote for Logit bit at the end, which could have been posted in the other thread suspiciously lacking content that you created recently.
Alt posting anonymity FTW, amirite? hmmm...
This is a FYI post that pinpoints a candidate who's core ideals are to remove your options from the game. This is what we - and what everyone, including you - should be fighting against.
I'd say that it contains plenty of content.
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Lau Qvist
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Posted - 2009.11.17 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Lau Qvist on 17/11/2009 16:36:21
Quote: Alt posting anonymity FTW, amirite? hmmm...
No
Quote: This is a FYI post that pinpoints a candidate who's core ideals are to remove your options from the game. This is what we - and what everyone, including you - should be fighting against.
So wait, your against Logit? or...
Quote: I'd say that it contains plenty of content.
That was the problem lots of content, couldnt find a point in it though, I was under the impression that CCP had the say in the direction of the game not the CSM, was I wrong?
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Lau Qvist
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Posted - 2009.11.17 16:42:00 -
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Wait i think ive got it Your against Stormaxe Titanothere and for Logit whosisname Right?
Why? because you think if the other guys get in, that there going to remove ninja salvaging? |
Moranda Morland
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Posted - 2009.11.17 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Moranda Morland on 17/11/2009 19:38:44
Originally by: Velocity Prime
1) Post with your main.
Alt posting anonymity FTW, amirite? hmmm...
Unless your in an alliance, your an alt!!
Also isn't every forum post on the interwebs, no matter the reason made in anonymity?
Edit: POST WITH YOUR MAIN!!! |
Ashina Sito
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.11.17 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Velocity Prime
Now as for a CSM candidate bashing my my thread and the people I support with stories of e-peen wagging....
It beats just whining about it, eh?
First, considering my post included the follow up fight where I lost my ship to that pilgrim pilot's Navy Mega I don't really see it as e-peen waving.
Second, people of differing viewpoints will read this thread. Some will take umbrage with your position and candidate. I have no stance on you candidate, I do have an in game issue with your position. A reader that does not agree with you may like to know of a counter vote for the CSM you promoting. Your candidate would not have gotten that vote in the first place.... and this discussion keeps the thread bumped which gives more exposure to everyone involved. Even the CSM candidate that you are railing against.
As to the last bit, part of the reason I posted about the TEARS Pilgrim loss is so that readers can see that you can fight back. Even more important is that if you fight back you will not be bothered again. Since the intention of ninja's and can flipper is to kill easy targets, not have real fights.
Sorry to harp on this but one of the main things I do in Eve is teach people to not be victims. With a little guts and some skill you can get the piratey types to leave you alone. Some people learn this, others don't.
Personally I LUV ninja's. There arn't enough of them. Too few to rack up any decent number of kill mails. (ok, now that is a bit of e-peen waving. )
Ashina Sito for CSM
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Gauss Markov
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Posted - 2009.11.17 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lau Qvist
While your dedication to Logit is admirable to a degree, continous posting of "vote Logit" threads simply makes you look like his alt and therefore nullifies your support of him.
Bwahahahahaha. I can't believe you actually suggested that VP and Logit Probit are the same person. They run two huge, COMPETING ninja salvager operations. How long have you played EvE? - Signature removed. Lacks EVE Content. Navigator Vote for Logit Probit for CSM! |
Lau Qvist
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Posted - 2009.11.18 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lau Qvist on 18/11/2009 11:22:51
Quote: Unless your in an alliance, your an alt!!
This makes perfect sense, well done.
Quote: Bwahahahahaha. I can't believe you actually suggested that VP and Logit Probit are the same person. They run two huge, COMPETING ninja salvager operations. How long have you played EvE?
I didnt suggest that at all, I simply stated thats how it appears.
Quote: Also isn't every forum post on the interwebs, no matter the reason made in anonymity?
No, if i told you my name, I would no longer be anonymous |
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