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Admiral Byng
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Posted - 2009.11.15 02:24:00 -
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I have been doing invention for shield modules, like Invulnerability II. I have done 4 where I used a meta 0 module and got 100% success and 12 where I didn't use a module and got 33% success. I have all the science skills at 4. Does anyone have the real probabilities?
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Commissar Veldt
Caldari
Progressive Systems
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Posted - 2009.11.15 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Commissar Veldt on 15/11/2009 02:38:33
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/invention_chance.php
This should help you figure out the success rate.
Fly safe
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Admiral Byng
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Posted - 2009.11.15 03:04:00 -
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Thanks. Meta 0 don't help at all.
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Breaker77
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.15 15:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Admiral Byng
Thanks. Meta 0 don't help at all.
Unless you like losing ISK don't use items at all. It's a complete waste.
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Elvid Tanz
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Posted - 2009.11.15 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Admiral Byng
Thanks. Meta 0 don't help at all.
Unless you like losing ISK don't use items at all. It's a complete waste.
I suggest that you need to work it out in each case. Meta 4 increases success percent substantially, and is in some cases worth it.
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Don Pellegrino
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Posted - 2009.11.15 17:49:00 -
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Some items like T1 1MN afterburners cost 3,000 isk. Even if the difference is small, it DOES increase your success rate without increasing the invention cost. So you end up gaining more isk...
It's a case by case question.
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Breaker77
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.15 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Some items like T1 1MN afterburners cost 3,000 isk. Even if the difference is small, it DOES increase your success rate without increasing the invention cost. So you end up gaining more isk...
T1 = meta 0
Meta 0 = no increase
Keep wasting ISK.
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Commissar Veldt
Caldari
Progressive Systems
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Posted - 2009.11.15 19:19:00 -
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Try setting up buy orders in busy stations for meta 3/4 items below the average market value. You will be surprised how many people sell loot without checking the value of the item. If you can get them cheap enough then you can increase your success rate and decrease the cost of the job.
Good luck Admiral
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Zhade Lezte
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Posted - 2009.11.22 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Commissar Veldt
Try setting up buy orders in busy stations for meta 3/4 items below the average market value. You will be surprised how many people sell loot without checking the value of the item. If you can get them cheap enough then you can increase your success rate and decrease the cost of the job.
Good luck Admiral
My meta 3/4 items are free (cheap) because I bought them via low priced buy orders! Nevermind the babysitting of the orders involved...
This is actually a gray area, since t2 items usually sell a lot quicker than meta 3/4 items. Still try to consider the costs what you would get from a sell order in whatever nearby trade hub you're operating from and see if it's a profit to use one even then. If it's not, consider selling the meta 3/4 item itself.
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Bel Amar
Amarr
Children of Anarchy
HELM Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.22 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zhade Lezte
This is actually a gray area, since t2 items usually sell a lot quicker than meta 3/4 items. Still try to consider the costs what you would get from a sell order in whatever nearby trade hub you're operating from and see if it's a profit to use one even then. If it's not, consider selling the meta 3/4 item itself.
Exactly. However you get them, those meta 3/4 items have a value and if you would make more money selling them on the market directly than the increase in profit from using them on your invention jobs, then you end up actually reducing profit by using them for invention.
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