Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2009.11.21 02:55:00 -
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I could hope that people who are all for vaccines will at least not allow or use government to force those who don't want it, at gun point, to take them.
After all, when it becomes OK to use government to force people to do things they don't want....well.... that comes back to bite you in the ass.
And the people you wanted to have things forced upon might win the gun fight and then it's you who will be running.
Now....
those of you who think that vaccines increase life expectancy need to do a little more research. Go to an old grave yard and you will note a lot of dates that indicate a high rate of child mortality. The advances are not in vaccines and drugs increasing life expectancy, it's in prenatal and infant care. So to use an "average" from a century ago is misleading because once the average person survived their first five years, they were well on their way to a long life. In that same grave yard you will note that those who make it into adult years live about as long as people do now.
Of course then the argument that not using vaccines brings us to the days of olde. Well, could those be the days when:
- fat people were a minority. (This is still the case in countries that are not overmedicated). I refer to obesity.
- diabetes which is argued is not related directly to obesity on most case was uncommon.
- men in their 30s didn't have the same pattern baldness as men in their 50s.
- women were not dropping dead from breast cancer.
- Anyone notice that those "backwards" nations where they don't use a lot of vaccines seem to lack fertility issues?
Thing is, vaccines to cause problems that vary from person to person. And "Big Pharma" is quite powerful in the USA. Not only do they use their money to control much of government (like getting laws passed in 2006 to make it very hard to sue them), if you watch some American television, you will note that most of the TV commercials are for medications. So any news channel or show that starts to question the status quo about medicines and vaccines will find themselves off the air from a lack of advertising.
But do you want to risk that one autoimmune response that causes you to become obese for the rest of your life?
How about that autoimmune response that blows out your pancrease so you will die without insuline within days - or more likely go blind or need your legs amputated.
How about fertility? Sure maybe you don't want kids now but you might later.
Cancer? It's never funny and if live, you live in fear of it coming back. I had a friend die of breast cancer quite horribly.
How about nervous disorders. Sure it's funny when someone else has that kind of trouble. But did you ever have CNS damage for a time, even temporarily? You are the last one laughing.
But I bring these up because you can go to any place that has flu vaccines, even the seasonal one, and get the little pamphlets that come with the vaccines, and it will say it right in the pamphlet that these risks (autoimmune response, infertility, cancer, nervous system disorders) are present.
You don't have to believe me, go see for yourself.
But if you don't want to, want to make comments about tin foil, want to snark and snipe about it and be smug, then please, go get your vaccines and see if you can get a double dose. All I know currently is that I won't take them and everybody I care about won't take them (and nobody is sick, by the way) and if faceless morons want to be sheep and march to the drug store for their shot, then I see that as stupidity getting a chance to fix itself. I can argue that not everybody that drinks and drives a car tonight will have an accident or kill somebody, but does that make it safe? Taking the risk of vaccines is as dumb as drunk driving or snorting coke. And considering the safety-addicted helicopter parenting in the US where we are inundated with laws because of "what might happen", it's odd that the standards change suddenly (from the same governments).
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