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Guarneri deJesu
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Posted - 2009.11.16 14:12:00 -
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So let's say you take a courier contract with an amount of collateral associated with it. You discover that the item you're moving is worth considerably more than the collateral.
Do you: A) Deliver the goods and send a friendly eve mail to the contractor informing them of their mistake B) Crack open the freight container and sell the goods for a profit over the collateral
Along with your answer, state any possible repercussions to your actions.
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Don Pellegrino
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.11.16 14:44:00 -
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Completed/Failed courier contracts are public, but almost nobody know about that and it's extremely rare for someone to actually look at those. And most of the time, people don't even care about your contract history, anyway.
I would do it for a profit of more than 500M, EXCEPT if I know the guy is going to use my services again.
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Guarneri deJesu
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Posted - 2009.11.16 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Don Pellegrino Completed/Failed courier contracts are public, but almost nobody know about that and it's extremely rare for someone to actually look at those. And most of the time, people don't even care about your contract history, anyway.
I would do it for a profit of more than 500M, EXCEPT if I know the guy is going to use my services again.
So essentially, there are no repercussions to doing it except the chance that you may lose perceived reputation. And even then, the failed contracts don't exactly tell other people that you hawked someone's freight.
The way I figure it, if the contractor doesn't have the presence of mind do see how much their freight will actually sell for and adjust the collateral accordingly, he's just setting himself up for a situation like this.
Thanks for the input!
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Gabriel Rosencrantz
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Posted - 2009.11.16 19:19:00 -
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Red Frog Freight would, of course, deliver the package as promised. Our reputation and business is worth far more than a temporary ISK benefit. We also notify our clients if they have miscalculated our rates and are paying too much. We've been in business for a long time now. I think its safe to say that our reputation has earned us far more money than petty theft. |

Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.16 20:33:00 -
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General rule of thumb is that a public contract will get broken, and a private contract probably won't.
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Fat Buddah
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Posted - 2009.11.18 05:29:00 -
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You will find some modules/implants with the following characteristics: - Big gap between the prices - Very low volume - 0.01 isk war
Big gap represents a big margin but low volume plus 0.01isk war force you to babysit the order. Not so fun if the target market is not your home region.
In such cases I just place a courier contract with collateral less than the market value but higher than the price I paid to get them. If the courier breaks the contract I still make some profit and he becomes the one to babysit the sell order. If he delivers I still have the option either to babysit the order or to place another courier contract.
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Raging Taurus
Dark Cross Industries
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Posted - 2009.11.18 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Raging Taurus on 18/11/2009 17:45:33
Originally by: Gabriel Rosencrantz Red Frog Freight would, of course, deliver the package as promised. Our reputation and business is worth far more than a temporary ISK benefit. We also notify our clients if they have miscalculated our rates and are paying too much. We've been in business for a long time now. I think its safe to say that our reputation has earned us far more money than petty theft.
As a CEO of a corp offering JF Services, I fully agree with RF Freight's statement...if you intend making money out of courier services, with all the competition there is out there, reputation is the main factor which keeps bringing customers back to you.
Some pointed out that no one checks public contracts - that might be true, but customers look for services on forums and they tend to check the history of posts - I am certain that the customer who ended up without his goods delivered will certainly post a nice comment on the forum post warning potential new customers about your failure.
How much is the reputation worth? some said 500M - i'd say it's priceless since you'll keep making money for as long as your reputation is spotless!
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Karanth
Gallente Independent Fleet THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.11.18 18:04:00 -
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The only time I've ever had a public courier get broken IIRC was when a newbie who was 3 days old clicked the wrong button and we ended up just finishing the job via trade in the station I wanted it at anyway.
As long as you put a reasonable collateral and decent reward for the size no one will even bother to try it, at least in my experience.
Now, what about descriptions of the items you're putting up? I hardly see anyone ever do that.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans
Sorry, no. You have to go into wormholes and get farmed by the new AI NPCs like everyone else...
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