Originally by: Zeba

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It will be interesting to see how the new arty works on an apoc. Alas none of my characters can use large t2 projectiles so I can't test it out on sisi.

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Originally by: King Dave

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You can't compare any artilleries to tachyons. Simple because there isn't an artillery made to match the tachyon. 1400mm's are meant to match mega beams. Tachyons are simply in a class of there own.

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Originally by: Julio Torres

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Originally by: King Dave

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You can't compare any artilleries to tachyons. Simple because there isn't an artillery made to match the tachyon. 1400mm's are meant to match mega beams. Tachyons are simply in a class of there own.

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Correct

Dual heavy beam <-> 1200mm Arty
Mega Beam <-> 1400mm Arty
Tachyon <-> ???

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Originally by: Sepheir Sepheron

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Artillery:

PROS:
-Small grid consumption
-Incredible alpha strike
-No capacitor requirements
-Can fit without power modules on Battleship
-Long delay between cycles allowing for less ammo consumption
-Massive range both optimal and falloff

CONS:
-Long delay between cycles
-Often fighting in falloff

Beam Lasers:

PROS:
-Massive range
-Little delay on cycles

CONS:
-Massive grid consumption
-1/3rd the alpha damage
-Massive capacitor requirements
-Cannot fit without several grid modifying modules or rigs
-Little delay on cycles resulting in faster crystal dissolution

Conclusion:
The Beam Lasers take huge cap to fire, so why the hell do they fire more often?
Now that Beam Lasers aren't the -best long ranged battleship weapons- why do they still take so much grid to fit?

Basically the Artillery right now is doing everything that I wanted when I trained for Lasers. Long duration with massive alpha damage.

Let the flaming begin.

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Originally by: Sepheir Sepheron

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Artillery:

PROS:
-Incredible alpha strike
-No capacitor requirements
-Can fit without power modules on Battleship
-Long delay between cycles allowing for less ammo consumption


CONS:
-Long delay between cycles
-Often fighting in falloff
-Horrendous tracking
-Large grid consumption in relation to available powergrid
-Poor optimal range, rapidly diminishing damage and alpha in fall off

Beam Lasers:

PROS:
-Massive range
-Little delay on cycles
-Greater Dps
-25% More tracking
-20 More optimal range
-Specialised ship bonuses that enhance usage and diminish cap use issues
-No reloads during the course of an average fleet fight

CONS:
-Massive grid consumption
-1/2th the alpha damage
-Large capacitor requirements
-Cannot fit without several grid modifying modules or rigs


Conclusion:
It always seems greener on the other side of the fence.

Let the flaming begin.

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Originally by: Sepheir Sepheron

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Artillery:
-Small grid consumption (if that is the case then why do you still need to fit a RCU to prevent your ship from running out of powergrid)?
-Incredible alpha strike (on paper perhaps, I still need to see the day that a tempest alpha's another ship)
-Can fit without power modules on Battleship (see my comment about grid consumption)
-Long delay between cycles allowing for less ammo consumption (also less DPS more important)

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Originally by: galdinni

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Tachyons hit pretty hard, and 7 second fire rate is nice. but, as you said, cap hungry, and powergrid intensive. also: NO AMMO. that is why they take so much cap and PG. it's a trade off, if you want no ammo, go laser. if you want awesome volley strikes and no capacitor use main guns, go artillery.

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