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Berentais
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.11.26 08:07:00 -
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what is the limit temp that a CPU should ever reach, mine is idling at 48 degrees and peaks at 59 and I was told that this could be bad, just need some clarification
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Victor Valka
Caldari Preta Light Industries Naraka.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 08:18:00 -
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Make and model would be helpful to know, but not absolutely necessary in this case. The temperatures you mentioned are completely well within healthy limits for any modern desktop CPU.
If it's Intel, you can find the documentation on their CPUs online and look up the Tjmax value for your CPU. You can think of that value as the critical point. (It's not, altho it is widely accepted as such.)
Maybe AMD has similar documentation. I've never looked.
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:42:00 -
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Nah, 59 degrees at full load is absolutely fine. There are cooler out there, and there are hotter but even 70 is safe. It's when it gets 85+ celcius you need to really worry.
If you're concerned about heat, you might consider looking into improving air circulation in your case with a new case fan or two. Also, you can buy replacement heatsink/fans and Arctic Silver thermal compound. Replacing the standard thermal pad & HSF with decent after market ones can help quite a lot maybe 4-10 degrees depending. -------------
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.11.26 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tamia Clant on 26/11/2009 15:43:24 59ŚC is perfectly fine for any modern CPU. I have mine running at 55 under heavy load (read: 4 EVE clients and 1 Aion client simultaneously) and that's with an aftermarket cooler, and if I recall correctly, it's designed to operate at up to 80ŚC.
In any case, it's quite easy to check on the internet if that's a stable temperature as long as you know what CPU it is. (you can find that out with CPU-Z)
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.11.26 17:13:00 -
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Most motherboards put their emergency cut offs around 100 degrees Celsius, if it starts getting close to that, then you need to worry about cooling.
48 degrees idle and 59 under load is just fine, it won't have any problems at those temperatures.
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Don Pellegrino
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.11.26 17:45:00 -
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A CPU will autoshutdown at about 90-95 ŚC to prevent damage.
60 degrees is still fine. 70 is hot.
Basically, it's hard to damage one because of that shutdown feature.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.11.26 18:45:00 -
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Intel chips can take a hell of a bashing, and anything under 70C is fine. AMDs are a bit more fragile - anything much more than 60C will cause it to make calculation errors, possibly resulting in system instability. ____________________
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.11.26 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Khemul Zula on 26/11/2009 21:31:11 Would love 60 as a peak. But then I'm on a laptop. 
50 standard. 70 peak.
Was 85-90 peak before messing around with some settings and capping the speed a little.
60 is definately a nice place to be. Although my experience is with Intel, so it could be different with AMD.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.11.27 14:33:00 -
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Just one thing to keep in mind here - it isn't just the temperature of the CPU that matters long term.
Electronic components that run hot - or get cycled from hot to cold to hot again - over a long time - will degrade and eventually fail.
So ... the rule of thumb is - if the system or the air around it feels hot - it IS hot.
For the system to cool itself - it must have access to air that is ... not hot. If all it has access to is the air it has already heated - then you are headed for trouble.
Mostly, if you only have one computer in a well ventilated room (not stuck under a desk with no air flow ...) then you're fine. However ... get a bunch of systems in a small space and you really need to start paying attention to your air flow management and cooling.
Of course having fans and ventilation slots that are clogged with dust (from sitting on the floor under a desk ...) don't help either ...
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Don Pellegrino
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.11.27 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Don Pellegrino on 27/11/2009 14:49:24
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Intel chips can take a hell of a bashing, and anything under 70C is fine. AMDs are a bit more fragile - anything much more than 60C will cause it to make calculation errors, possibly resulting in system instability.
Where did you read that?
Or is it just your personal opinion based on overcloaking on less than 100 different computers?
AMD chips can sustain A LOT more Vcore than Intel.
Quote: The Phenom II range of CPUs is the first series of AMD CPUs to eliminate the "cold bug" (which causes the processor to cease functioning below a certain temperature, and prevents the use of "extreme" cooling methods such as dry ice or liquid nitrogen). With the elimination of this cold bug, these CPUs are expected to overclock to much higher levels than any other AMD CPU range.
from http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3082
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.27 14:46:00 -
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have a look at the manufacturers specs for your exact CPU details though as the temp thresholds can vary.
My CPU started to overheat quite badly recently. I noticed it (lol) as my PC suddently shut itself down. After this happened again, I checked the BIOS and the core temp did seem a little bit high (it was in the 80's). I cleaned and reseated the heatsink/cooler combo and tried it again.
The PC seemed to work for around a day until it shut itself down again. I installed a free temp tool, and gawked as my CPU core was hitting 90 degrees. At this point I decided to ditch the heatsink/cooler and replace it. Luckily I had a spare one... spare because it was so big I was unable to fit it into my PC case when I first bought it!
This is very similar:
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So now my PC is ultra quiet; the difference is amazing (the bigger fan needs to roate less and hte heatsink is exponentially larger to bleed more heat away). Plus it runs, even under load, at a CPU core of around 35 degrees celsius and a system temp of around 26 degrees celsius.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.11.27 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Don Pellegrino AMD chips can sustain A LOT more Vcore than Intel.
So? They still get unstable at high temperatures in the 60-70C range, temperatures an Intel chip would perform perfectly well at. We're talking about temperature here, not vCore. I'm running an AMD Phenom II 955BE at 3.8GHz at the moment, and have used mostly Intel Core2 chips in the past, so this isn't an AMD bashing attempt.
As for where I read it, I do not remember. It came up on my various researches at to why my AMD computer kept crashing when my temperatures were "only" ~70C. Being used to Intel chips, I didn't see that temperature as a problem. ____________________
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TheBird
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Posted - 2009.11.27 21:20:00 -
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I don't think that is bad, my AMD Phenom X4 9750 idles at 26C and when all four cores are under a full load it runs at 59C. I have had it for over a year now and it still runs well. Almost all of the time it is the coldest thing in my case.
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr Clann Fian Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.27 23:21:00 -
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I did a experiment with one of my old computers once.
I got a old intel 2 up to 150 for about 10 seconds before it caught fire... ________________________________________________ Tau - Yeah we suck in close combat. To bad you will never get there. For the greater good!!
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