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SeerinDarkness
Minmatar An Tir
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Posted - 2009.11.30 08:13:00 -
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For the second time in a month somone i know ingame has had their account raided....all eve players i strongly urge you to change your passwords once a week and do not let eve login remember your passwords. Somone is out there guessing account login names and like other things with eve the client/eve forums is keeping account info somehow sutch as passwords...and change those api keys.. GM's please fo something to kill the guessing games some people are obviously playing to hack acounts like limiting password tries and forcing password resets Seer
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Bel Amar
Amarr Children of Anarchy HELM Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.30 08:27:00 -
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People are getting hacked because they're getting keyloggers on their computers. The hackers aren't "guessing".
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sg3s
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Bel Amar People are getting hacked because they're getting keyloggers on their computers. The hackers aren't "guessing".
This.
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Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.30 08:42:00 -
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I would of believed it more if you would of said this
"For the second time this month someone I know who brought isk has had there account hacked".
The responsibility for your account is yours and yours only, CCP can help in the protection but it up to you to insure you don't catch keyloggers which could effect your account. You can do this by only going on sites you trust , not buying isk (as the sites you purchase from has keyloggers on the site) and maintaining high security standards. Or buying anti-virus software like nod32
Basically they were idiots , got there account hacked and it there own fault. Don't cry here for there pennence as they have 99% likly brought it on themsleves. There is no guessing of these guys accounts it 100% brought on by themselves.
Hope they get there accounts banned
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.11.30 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: SeerinDarkness For the second time in a month somone i know ingame has had their account raided
Tell him to get a better antivirus // get a better firewall // upgrade and/or update his OS // not to surf for questionable stuff // not to click on every exe and allow it to install
Quote: all eve players i strongly urge you to change your passwords once a week
A password which will be promptly intercepted again on an infected machine and will do you no good
Quote: and do not let eve login remember your passwords.
You can't forget to do something that is impossible to do.
Quote: Somone is out there guessing account login names and like other things with eve the client/eve forums is keeping account info somehow sutch as passwords
Nope. Not even close.
Quote: and change those api keys
Irrelevant. They have nothing to do with your account NAME nor PASSWORD, they are only account ID number and (more or less) randomly generated strings.
Quote: GM's please fo something to kill the guessing games some people are obviously playing to hack acounts like limiting password tries and forcing password resets
Nobody's "guessing" anything, unless those "hacks" are actually coming from an acquaintance.
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Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:14:00 -
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did they cry , i hope they did. people buying isk is ruining the game
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Cridu Chat
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:20:00 -
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Guessing games... Have fun guessing my 20+ characters password. Maybe don't use 1234 on ur Account ?
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Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cridu Chat Guessing games... Have fun guessing my 20+ characters password. Maybe don't use 1234 on ur Account ?
or password
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Komi Toran
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cridu Chat Guessing games... Have fun guessing my 20+ characters password. Maybe don't use 1234 on ur Account ?
That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
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SeerinDarkness
Minmatar An Tir
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:40:00 -
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While i do believe some people are getting keylogged and the like. its hard to explain that happening to a dedicated eve box that does nothing but run clients and nothng else..not even surfing. the only explinations are somone is guessing Or CCP has a leak somewhere.
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Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: SeerinDarkness While i do believe some people are getting keylogged and the like. its hard to explain that happening to a dedicated eve box that does nothing but run clients and nothng else..not even surfing. the only explinations are somone is guessing Or CCP has a leak somewhere.
well the thing is that is isn't you that has been hacked nor is it your machine. So you don't have the foggiest of clue's. What one says to someone he knows and what he actually does or lie to cover up something that is wrong is different. I took it he told you he uses it for nothing else yeah?
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: SeerinDarkness While i do believe some people are getting keylogged and the like. its hard to explain that happening to a dedicated eve box that does nothing but run clients and nothng else..not even surfing. the only explinations are somone is guessing Or CCP has a leak somewhere.
Your explanations are far harder to explain than some kind of user error. People have a tendency to overestimate their own competency and underestimate the competency of others.
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Miraqu
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: SeerinDarkness
its hard to explain that happening to a dedicated eve box that does nothing but run clients and nothng else
To be honest, as soon as you connect that box to the internet, you are vulnerable.
Even if you don't surf the net you will have to care about security.
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Jessica Lorelei
Minmatar Decimus Corp
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jessica Lorelei on 30/11/2009 09:54:12
Originally by: SeerinDarkness While i do believe some people are getting keylogged and the like. its hard to explain that happening to a dedicated eve box that does nothing but run clients and nothng else..not even surfing. the only explinations are somone is guessing Or CCP has a leak somewhere.
yea right, you really are gullible, and your friend is an isk buying cheat and should be banned from every mmo forever.
are you SURE it is your 'friend' and not you?
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Martin Mckenna
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: SeerinDarkness Somone is out there guessing account login names
This is funny ---------------------
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Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.30 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Mckenna
Originally by: SeerinDarkness Somone is out there guessing account login names
This is funny
yes it is , his friend has told him false stuff and he has taken it for gospel truth first go
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bel Amar The hackers aren't "guessing".
This. Don't let your "friend" buy ISK...
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JeanMichel Bizarre
Whimmy Wham Wham Wozzle
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Posted - 2009.11.30 10:44:00 -
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I've been playing online games for quite a while and have never had any issues whatsoever. I do, however change my password every few months and take care to include upper, lower case and numbers.
If you have the slightest idea of how to keep your PC clean of **** there is little to worry about. ------
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.11.30 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Komi Toran
Originally by: Cridu Chat Guessing games... Have fun guessing my 20+ characters password. Maybe don't use 1234 on ur Account ?
That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
SPACEBALLS! (what do I win?) Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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gallchecker
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Posted - 2009.11.30 11:38:00 -
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online gaming since the aoe series in 95.
never had any accounts hacked, never been scammed in a game yet.
'everyone is the enemy until proven otherwise'
works fine for me :)
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Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.30 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 30/11/2009 11:53:05
Mr X buys illegal ISK/character/item Mr x gets hacked Mr x gets his account back Mr x gets phising email requesting 'identity/security' check from ISK sellers pretending to be CCP Mr x ignores the obvious phishing attempt and gives them account details Mr x gets hacked again
And/or:
Mr x has not removed the logger Mr x has the same user name and PW as a forum he uses that's been compromised Mr x does not take basic security measures when visiting sites and happily runs any script he comes across
There's a ton of ways to get compromised and most of them due to laziness or stupidity. It does not take a conspiracy theory to work out how its easily done.
If is was compromised EVE forums security or API keys there would be TENS OF THOUSANDS of security breaches. The fact there is not is a massive hint.
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floggar
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Posted - 2009.11.30 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C I would of believed it more if you would of said this
"For the second time this month someone I know who brought isk has had there account hacked".
The responsibility for your account is yours and yours only, CCP can help in the protection but it up to you to insure you don't catch keyloggers which could effect your account. You can do this by only going on sites you trust , not buying isk (as the sites you purchase from has keyloggers on the site) and maintaining high security standards. Or buying anti-virus software like nod32
Basically they were idiots , got there account hacked and it there own fault. Don't cry here for there pennence as they have 99% likly brought it on themsleves. There is no guessing of these guys accounts it 100% brought on by themselves.
Hope they get there accounts banned
Hey forum ***** do you know for a fact that "they brought it on themselves"? How could you know this? people get hacked for various reason, you'd have to be an idiot to blame the victim without knowing all the facts.
You lack attention in RL so you need to come here for it. thats just lol.
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Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.30 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: floggar
Originally by: Armoured C I would of believed it more if you would of said this
"For the second time this month someone I know who brought isk has had there account hacked".
The responsibility for your account is yours and yours only, CCP can help in the protection but it up to you to insure you don't catch keyloggers which could effect your account. You can do this by only going on sites you trust , not buying isk (as the sites you purchase from has keyloggers on the site) and maintaining high security standards. Or buying anti-virus software like nod32
Basically they were idiots , got there account hacked and it there own fault. Don't cry here for there pennence as they have 99% likly brought it on themsleves. There is no guessing of these guys accounts it 100% brought on by themselves.
Hope they get there accounts banned
Hey forum ***** do you know for a fact that "they brought it on themselves"? How could you know this? people get hacked for various reason, you'd have to be an idiot to blame the victim without knowing all the facts.
You lack attention in RL so you need to come here for it. thats just lol.
Could you please give one example where its not the fault of the person hacked. It's not easy, I can't think of one, maybe you could help me on that.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.11.30 11:59:00 -
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Perhaps Mythbusters should take a look at the CCP and fevered fanboi claim that you only get hacked if you buy isk.
Because it's very damaging for people to think it's the only way to get hacked, and it stops people being vigilant. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.11.30 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zartanic
Originally by: floggar
Hey forum ***** do you know for a fact that "they brought it on themselves"? How could you know this? people get hacked for various reason, you'd have to be an idiot to blame the victim without knowing all the facts.
You lack attention in RL so you need to come here for it. thats just lol.
Could you please give one example where its not the fault of the person hacked. It's not easy, I can't think of one, maybe you could help me on that.
Every case, since they can't take responsibility and always blame others for their own mistakes and carelessness. It is also fun, that their "friends" are the ones complaining on the forums. Usually spouting the same BS he just got served from his friend and acting surprised when others don't automaticly swallow it.
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floggar
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Posted - 2009.11.30 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Zartanic
Originally by: floggar
Originally by: Armoured C I would of believed it more if you would of said this
"For the second time this month someone I know who brought isk has had there account hacked".
The responsibility for your account is yours and yours only, CCP can help in the protection but it up to you to insure you don't catch keyloggers which could effect your account. You can do this by only going on sites you trust , not buying isk (as the sites you purchase from has keyloggers on the site) and maintaining high security standards. Or buying anti-virus software like nod32
Basically they were idiots , got there account hacked and it there own fault. Don't cry here for there pennence as they have 99% likly brought it on themsleves. There is no guessing of these guys accounts it 100% brought on by themselves.
Hope they get there accounts banned
Hey forum ***** do you know for a fact that "they brought it on themselves"? How could you know this? people get hacked for various reason, you'd have to be an idiot to blame the victim without knowing all the facts.
You lack attention in RL so you need to come here for it. thats just lol.
Could you please give one example where its not the fault of the person hacked. It's not easy, I can't think of one, maybe you could help me on that.
Are you telling us that you think everyone who was ever hacked on the internet has brought it upon themselves?
And specifically to eve, You can honestly tell us that every person who has had thier account hacked has brought that upon themselves?
How can you be %100 ceertain of that, do you know the details of each and every instance of this happening to an eve player?
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente JotunHeim Hird
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Posted - 2009.11.30 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bel Amar People are getting hacked because they're getting keyloggers on their computers. The hackers aren't "guessing".
This.
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari Firestar Drive Yards
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Posted - 2009.11.30 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ryoji Tanakama on 30/11/2009 12:15:13
Originally by: Akita T
Quote: and do not let eve login remember your passwords.
You can't forget to do something that is impossible to do.
Tut tut Akita.
You can enable remembering of passwords in one of the config files.
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Alex Raptos
Caldari Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: floggar And specifically to eve, You can honestly tell us that every person who has had thier account hacked has brought that upon themselves?
Considering all the possible methods for a "hacker" to obtain your username and password, i will have to answer Yes to that question.
The only ways to get hacked ultimately come down to end-user stupidity. Either they use the same Username and Password for everything, and another service they use gets infiltrated (Corp website). They visit a dodgy website through either intent (Buying isk/other services) or blind stupidity (Phishing emails). They then proceed to give said website their details not making sure it is a legitimate website, or allow said website to run a script or save an executable (Most commonly a duped Flash Player)
At the end of the Day, the user is compromising their own computer by being a stupid end-user. So yes, they bring it on themselves.
Originally by: Dirk Magnum I've become gay for Mark Harmon despite my initial reservations about the show NCIS but nobody will ever know
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Alex Raptos
Caldari Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama Edited by: Ryoji Tanakama on 30/11/2009 12:15:13
Originally by: Akita T
Quote: and do not let eve login remember your passwords.
You can't forget to do something that is impossible to do.
Tut tut Akita.
You can enable remembering of passwords in one of the config files.
I believe he was talking about the Eve Website, which remembers your details if you specify it to.
Originally by: Dirk Magnum I've become gay for Mark Harmon despite my initial reservations about the show NCIS but nobody will ever know
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