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Susi Queue
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.30 15:18:00 -
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If you had to pick an interceptor, which one and why? For solo/small gang pvp mostly.
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Hurtado Soneka
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.11.30 15:20:00 -
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Raptor...just for the banter
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E Vile
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Posted - 2009.11.30 15:27:00 -
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Certain Intys are better for certain things.
Crow I like vs larger targets with it's decent missle range. Crow is best vs anything larger then it.
I prefer the all popular Gellante blaster boat for a anti-inty inty. With it's poor range it is a bit less effective facing large targets you don't want to get in Neut/web range of.
I'm sure the other intys can be effective. These 2 are what I am skilled for.
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2009.11.30 16:07:00 -
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Gallente frig 5 is the best package.
The ranis is a fearsome fragger of inties. Ares is on a par with any of the other tackle inties for my money.
I dunno about using the same for both.
I tend to fit my ranises with short points which is what you want for solo or whatever but doesn't really work for holding something big for the rest of your gang.
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Kirzath
Blackwater Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.11.30 17:24:00 -
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+1 for Taranis/Ares. The Crusader has its merits though, and the Claw can be pretty awesome for anti-inty work as well. Fit a neut and you can kill every other inty, including Taranis.
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SomeHardLovin
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.30 17:38:00 -
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This will definetly go against the grain.. but personally, I love the Amarr Retribution.
Why you ask? Well mine does 220dps (as much as some cruisers) but with small turrets.. so it hits everything for near full damage. It has a massive speed/sig/resistance tank which, when ratting, 1.8mill tripple BS spawns can't kill.. or even scratch for that matter. It looks damn sexy (punisher hull w/ gold and red). In PVP it takes almost any other AF if you play your cards right.. although its range is only about 10km. Lasers don't really need ammo so I can go deep into 0.0 without having to scramble back for more pew pew.
Its only REAL failing is a lack of point. This means your target either runs away, or dies stupidly. You'd be surprised how many die stupidly.. although flying with a buddy in a crow makes this guy ALL that much more awsome. A pack of these with a couple of crows is hella fun.
No split weapon loadouts, awsome range, awsome damage, awsome tank, 1500ms with afterburner after Domninon.. What's not to love?
With a mid slot it would rule the AF roost. ---
Bring forth the Assault Frigate apocalypse! |
Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.11.30 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 30/11/2009 17:53:26
Originally by: SomeHardLovin This will definetly go against the grain.. but personally, I love the Amarr Retribution.
Why you ask? Well mine does 220dps (as much as some cruisers) but with small turrets.. so it hits everything for near full damage. It has a massive speed/sig/resistance tank which, when ratting, 1.8mill tripple BS spawns can't kill.. or even scratch for that matter. It looks damn sexy (punisher hull w/ gold and red). In PVP it takes almost any other AF if you play your cards right.. although its range is only about 10km. Lasers don't really need ammo so I can go deep into 0.0 without having to scramble back for more pew pew.
Its only REAL failing is a lack of point. This means your target either runs away, or dies stupidly. You'd be surprised how many die stupidly.. although flying with a buddy in a crow makes this guy ALL that much more awsome. A pack of these with a couple of crows is hella fun.
No split weapon loadouts, awsome range, awsome damage, awsome tank, 1500ms with afterburner after Domninon.. What's not to love?
With a mid slot it would rule the AF roost.
PVE aside... Hi. I'm a destroyer. My friend cruiser would also like a word. I outdamage you with higher EHP for a 10th of the cost and even go faster than your AB lolfit* with better range and guess what? We can fit tackle as well!
Retribution is complete and utter trash. Want to deal damage and tackle in a frigate? Get a Harpy/Jaguar/Wolf/Ishkur/Taranis/even a friggin' Enyo.
*Oh and the AB buff Isn't happening. Enjoy being outrun by a battlecruiser.
Oh and nice ninja edit there!
Edit: To actually be constructive here; I'd go with the Taranis for solo. Crusader has better ability to disengage but with the lower tank and gank you're gonna need it.
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SomeHardLovin
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: SomeHardLovin on 30/11/2009 18:19:07 Hmm well I nipped in there realising I mentioned an AF in an inty thread.. but someone beat me to it .. damn you forum hoors.
Ok so now I have to comment...
My AF will absolutely DESTROY your pos destroyer. Been there, killed lots. Good luck with that. I'm guessing you don't do a lot of PVP. Detroyers are worthless. Say it with me now.. w o r t h l e s s .. in one on one pvp. I have had generally very high success against T1 cruisers as well.. especially since I outdamage them and have considerably higher resists, in most cases.
Bummer about the AB thing.. I was really looking forward to that. 1000ms isn't terrible however... it does make having an inty as a buddy useful. ---
Bring forth the Assault Frigate apocalypse! |
Dodgy Past
Amarr Lollipops for Rancors
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:18:00 -
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I've only got the amarr ones but they aren't bad if you understand their limitations.
Malediction is purely a tackle ship, i.e. get a point and hold it, you should generally be out of your rocket range and really they're there for self defense vs. Warrior IIs
Crusader is a fairly different beast that can either be anti-inty or tackle with a little dps. I did really struggle to find a fit that I liked for this though eventually settled on a locus sader which could still do dps outside medium neut range.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- you seem determined to turn it into ******* Hollyoaks for neckbeards. |
Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 30/11/2009 18:23:47
Originally by: SomeHardLovin Hmm well I nipped in there realising I mentioned an AF in an inty thread.. but someone beat me to it .. damn you forum hoors.
Ok so now I have to comment...
My AF will absolutely DESTROY your pos destroyer. Been there, killed lots. Good luck with that. I'm guessing you don't do a lot of PVP. Detroyers are worthless. Say it with me now.. w o r t h l e s s .. in one on one pvp.
Bummer about the AB thing.. I was really looking forward to that. 1000ms isn't terrible however... it does make having an inty as a buddy useful.
I was actually talking group. 1v1 is even funnier, not even a point? Good luck with that. And apparently you've never seen an arty Thrasher. I'd take one of those in my fleet over your slowboat lolmobile any day of the week.
Oh not to mention the other range dessies which outrun and outrange you. Coercer anyone? Not got a point either but according to you that's just fine.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:23:00 -
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Crusader. |
demonfurbie
Minmatar Covert-Nexus
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:34:00 -
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ranis or a sen boosted stillitto is also nice for a fast point
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Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jovialmadness Crusader.
+1 but it takes some sharp flying to get the best from it. Luckily it's best is worth the trouble.
Also, Crow is the worst interceptor. It just is, in every possible way, utter gash. It will remain utter gash until rockets are a viable weapon system. Anyone who feels otherwise is more than welcome to bring one to Mara for me to kill and loot. Hell, bring two. It isn't even good against 'targets larger than it', due to absolutely **** poor damage and a total inability to deal with a flight of Warrior II's launched by someone with more than 4 sp's in drones.
Honourable mention to the Taranis, which is fearsome and which, bizarrely enough, gets BETTER the laggier the conditions! Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate' |
Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Stuart Price
Originally by: Jovialmadness Crusader.
+1 but it takes some sharp flying to get the best from it. Luckily it's best is worth the trouble.
Also, Crow is the worst interceptor. It just is, in every possible way, utter gash. It will remain utter gash until rockets are a viable weapon system. Anyone who feels otherwise is more than welcome to bring one to Mara for me to kill and loot. Hell, bring two. It isn't even good against 'targets larger than it', due to absolutely **** poor damage and a total inability to deal with a flight of Warrior II's launched by someone with more than 4 sp's in drones.
Having flown one I must reluctantly agree with this. It had its moments butt flat out worse than the others.
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xxxak
Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.11.30 20:38:00 -
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The Taranis is the best DPS ceptor, with the crusader a very very close second (better in some hands).
The Stiletto is the KING of tackle. It is FAST, and with 4 mid slots, you can fit either a VERY fast-locking tackle, and/or a decent shield tank, and/or a full tackle setup (webs, 2pt points etc).
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 20:41:00 -
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<3 my Taranis
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Drazin DawnTreader
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.12.01 00:13:00 -
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For pure tackle, Sensor boosted Ares has the best scan res and 31K lock range and is second only to the malediction in speed (among tackle inties). Despite having the shortest lock range and scan res I really prefer the Malediction for one reason alone. It is by far the sexiest ship in EvE. Nothing compares to its sleek curves and ninja paint scheme. But in truth, the Ares is the best pure tackler out there. Unless you double sensorboost a Stilletto for 2814mm Scan res before gang bonuses.(thats .9s locktime on light drones...)
For combat... Meh. I'd choose other ship classes for combat, Inties are for tackling IMO.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.01 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 01/12/2009 01:12:55
Originally by: Stuart Price Also, Crow is the worst interceptor. It just is, in every possible way, utter gash. It will remain utter gash until rockets are a viable weapon system. Anyone who feels otherwise is more than welcome to bring one to Mara for me to kill and loot. Hell, bring two. It isn't even good against 'targets larger than it', due to absolutely **** poor damage and a total inability to deal with a flight of Warrior II's launched by someone with more than 4 sp's in drones.
Warrior II + Drone Navigation 5/5: 5,040 ms * (1 + 5 * 0.05) = 6,300 m/s
Can any T2 fit Interceptor reach that without overheat, implants, boosters?
I can't seem to find any fit in EFT that will.
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Oneiros IV
Stella Polaris.
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Posted - 2009.12.01 01:18:00 -
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Stiletto for never getting into neut range, 30km lockrange and high scanres (mid slots)
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2009.12.01 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 01/12/2009 01:12:55
Originally by: Stuart Price Also, Crow is the worst interceptor. It just is, in every possible way, utter gash. It will remain utter gash until rockets are a viable weapon system. Anyone who feels otherwise is more than welcome to bring one to Mara for me to kill and loot. Hell, bring two. It isn't even good against 'targets larger than it', due to absolutely **** poor damage and a total inability to deal with a flight of Warrior II's launched by someone with more than 4 sp's in drones.
Warrior II + Drone Navigation 5/5: 5,040 ms * (1 + 5 * 0.05) = 6,300 m/s
Can any T2 fit Interceptor reach that without overheat, implants, boosters?
I can't seem to find any fit in EFT that will.
None of the ceptors are going to be outrunning them; it's more the fact that other ceptors (taranis, crusader, claw) have the DPS and weapons that are quite well suited to gunning down warrior IIs whereas 3x small missile launchers just take too long. ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Drazin DawnTreader
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.12.01 01:24:00 -
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I am probably wrong here, but drones don't shoot while MWDing do they? I know warrior II's have no trouble catching a target, but then they go into orbit speed and lose fast ships and have to MWD again, usually forgetting their target a few times while the drone operator curses and keeps spamming engage target right? I don't remember my Malediction having any issues with Warrior II's. Of course I haven't played in almost a year, so I might be thinking 'pre-speed nerf' here.
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Shasz
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.12.01 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Drazin DawnTreader I am probably wrong here, but drones don't shoot while MWDing do they? I know warrior II's have no trouble catching a target, but then they go into orbit speed and lose fast ships and have to MWD again, usually forgetting their target a few times while the drone operator curses and keeps spamming engage target right? I don't remember my Malediction having any issues with Warrior II's. Of course I haven't played in almost a year, so I might be thinking 'pre-speed nerf' here.
Yes, drones shoot while MWD is on. I watched as my pretty little warrior II's tore apart a crow that thought he was tackling my myrm for his gang once.
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