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Noopy Nemra
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Posted - 2009.12.01 19:01:00 -
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i'm hearing a lot about very small corps starting up with no tax rate as a home for people that were previously in npc corps that don't want to pay the new expansion npc corp tax
they plan on disbanding their corps if they are war declared and starting a new corp
i've also heard (possibly from forum trolls) that this is a banable offense, but i don't understand why, can anyone explain?
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Future Mutant
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.12.01 21:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Noopy Nemra
i'm hearing a lot about very small corps starting up with no tax rate as a home for people that were previously in npc corps that don't want to pay the new expansion npc corp tax
they plan on disbanding their corps if they are war declared and starting a new corp
i've also heard (possibly from forum trolls) that this is a banable offense, but i don't understand why, can anyone explain?
It is not against any rule to leave/disband a corp- and immediately join/create another.
Welcome to dominion- otherwise known as the 10k 1 man corp patch.
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Hiroshima Jita
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Posted - 2009.12.01 22:03:00 -
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Its legal. Have fun. Although why anybody would bother wardecing a 10 man corp that can do this is a mystery to me.
On the other hand some people enjoy wardecs, and they are one of the more contained pvp experiences that introduce noobs to the concept. When I was a noob my stupid alliance got wardeced and I had a good time fighting the other noob alliance that had wardecced us.
Nuetral RR is gay. Station games are gay. Wardecs in empire aren't alwaysd.
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Zephyr SkyHunter
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2009.12.03 02:42:00 -
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The new gank method will be to have alts join mission running corps and gank corpmates until they're forced to dock again. And when future corps ask about a player's rapid corp changes, they can just claim that their corp was wardeced so they had to ditch.
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theRaptor
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.12.03 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyr SkyHunter
The new gank method will be to have alts join mission running corps and gank corpmates until they're forced to dock again.
New? Next you will tell me that scores of kestrels will be used in high sec to alpha strike people who drop corp to avoid a war dec.
In EvE you are never safe. It is the basic axiom of the game.
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2009.12.03 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Zephyr SkyHunter
The new gank method will be to have alts join mission running corps and gank corpmates until they're forced to dock again.
New? Next you will tell me that scores of kestrels will be used in high sec to alpha strike people who drop corp to avoid a war dec.
In EvE you are never safe. It is the basic axiom of the game.
I think he meant this is new:
Originally by: Zephyr SkyHunter
And when future corps ask about a player's rapid corp changes, they can just claim that their corp was wardeced so they had to ditch."
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.12.04 01:34:00 -
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From a previous thread on the issue of leaving a corp on wardecs (and no, I can't be arsed to go look for it):
Leaving a corp at any time is perfectly fine. Disbanding a corp to avoid a wardec *may* get you a ban, and is *not* allowed (paraphrasing here).
So, you can leave a corp if it gets wardec'd (or for any reason) - but that corp has to remain behind so as not to *drop* the war-dec. Train alts to be corp placeholders.
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Sulg
Skies Tis Moiras
Amici Noctis
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Posted - 2009.12.05 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Daemonspirit
From a previous thread on the issue of leaving a corp on wardecs (and no, I can't be arsed to go look for it):
Leaving a corp at any time is perfectly fine. Disbanding a corp to avoid a wardec *may* get you a ban, and is *not* allowed (paraphrasing here).
So, you can leave a corp if it gets wardec'd (or for any reason) - but that corp has to remain behind so as not to *drop* the war-dec. Train alts to be corp placeholders.
I understand the paraphrasing bit-don't get me wrong-but, really? Banable? That seems ridiculous, because it means CCP would have to prove that the corp was disbanded purely because of a war dec. I don't know, simply sounds unrealistic to me.
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Trinity Council
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2009.12.05 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 05/12/2009 03:05:26
Originally by: Sulg
Originally by: Daemonspirit
From a previous thread on the issue of leaving a corp on wardecs (and no, I can't be arsed to go look for it):
Leaving a corp at any time is perfectly fine. Disbanding a corp to avoid a wardec *may* get you a ban, and is *not* allowed (paraphrasing here).
So, you can leave a corp if it gets wardec'd (or for any reason) - but that corp has to remain behind so as not to *drop* the war-dec. Train alts to be corp placeholders.
I understand the paraphrasing bit-don't get me wrong-but, really? Banable? That seems ridiculous, because it means CCP would have to prove that the corp was disbanded purely because of a war dec. I don't know, simply sounds unrealistic to me.
This is where player work comes in.
They war dec a corp, take screens on a few characters in the corp and the war dec on the same screen.
Carebear closes corp joins another, "pirate" screens it happening, war dec new corp.
Then screen again that the character dropped corp and joined another, rinse and repeat the cycle a few times and petition w/ screenshots.
EDIT: and CCP is able to put 2 and 2 together easily enough.
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Empire Dweller
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.05 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Daemonspirit
From a previous thread on the issue of leaving a corp on wardecs (and no, I can't be arsed to go look for it):
Leaving a corp at any time is perfectly fine. Disbanding a corp to avoid a wardec *may* get you a ban, and is *not* allowed (paraphrasing here).
So, you can leave a corp if it gets wardec'd (or for any reason) - but that corp has to remain behind so as not to *drop* the war-dec. Train alts to be corp placeholders.
This part where its not allowed to disband a corp to avoid a war dek is simply not true.
Ive known ppl that have done this- ive known ppl who have sent in petitions. Sometimes you get a gm that "suggests" its wrong- but nothing is or will ever be done about it.
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Empire Dweller
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.05 10:09:00 -
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To clarify the above post- i found this earlier
Originally by: GM Nythanos
Hello,
For #1, Closing a corporation and opening a new one with the same members is allowed, and the people who declared war on your now closed corporation can declare a new war on your new corporation if they choose to do so.
For #2, Using alt corps to increase the cost of wars against your corporation or alliance is prohibited.
To help clarify this, there are restrictions with regards to joining and leaving corporation, such as mentioned here:
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2317&tid=1
This is an official CCP GM ruling less than 6 months ago.
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.12.05 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Daemonspirit on 05/12/2009 12:45:24
Originally by: Empire Dweller
To clarify the above post- i found this earlier
Originally by: GM Nythanos
Hello,
For #1, Closing a corporation and opening a new one with the same members is allowed, and the people who declared war on your now closed corporation can declare a new war on your new corporation if they choose to do so.
For #2, Using alt corps to increase the cost of wars against your corporation or alliance is prohibited.
To help clarify this, there are restrictions with regards to joining and leaving corporation, such as mentioned here:
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2317&tid=1
This is an official CCP GM ruling less than 6 months ago.
Yep - my bad. 
That is indeed the one I was thinking of. Thanks for finding that, guess I need to bookmark it! 
Do you have the location of the GM response, I know thats in a different thread.
Thanks
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Empire Dweller
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.05 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Empire Dweller on 05/12/2009 18:37:39
The original location is here
Its towards the bottom of the page- doesnt really expand on it much other then a link with another short definition of what isnt allowed.
Edit to clarify- the insta joining/leaving a corp doesnt mean all joining or leaving a corp is an exploit.
If you are literally in front of a war target- and leave your war deked corp right before the guy attacks you- that is the exploit. The guys screen doesnt refresh fast enough to show you are no longer a "war target" and concord kills him. Same goes for joining a corp with the purpose of surprising a "war target" your in front of.
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.12.05 20:19:00 -
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Thanks. Bookmarked now.
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
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