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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.12.02 18:17:00 -
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Hi all, I'm a relative newbie to minmatar ships, can't yet use T2 large projectiles or missiles, but I'd like to start using a minmatar BS for missions.
I imagine many of us are in the same position.
Who has a good, effective minmatar BS setup for missions in Dominion? That works with T1 weapons?
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Ravenclaw2kk
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Posted - 2009.12.02 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Ravenclaw2kk on 02/12/2009 18:42:11
Maelstrom
Highs = 1200mm's
Meds = 1xXL SB, 2x SBA, 2x Invul(or mission specific hardeners), 1xCap recharger/cap booster
Lows = Cap mods & damage mods
Or
Same fit with 800mm Repeating artillery and TE's in lo's and an AB in Med's
I find using 1200's in highs to be best for non-angel missions where they will orbit at 20km.. then use t2 hammerheads to kill cruisers.
800's have insane damage at optimal... but the maelstrom is slow and you'll spend 1/2 your time chasing after the BS's then u got to salvage all that crap.. i find sitting in mission letting stuff come to me much easier so tend to use the 1200's
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Spaztick
Terminal Impact
Kairakau
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Posted - 2009.12.02 19:42:00 -
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Since you can't use T2 guns yet, use artillery on a Maelstrom. AFter that you can train up t2 autocannons and switch to those with Barrage ammo, and make the move to the Vargur.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.02 20:05:00 -
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I'm not convinced the Phoon won't actually be a better overall mission runner than the Mael.
-Liang
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Otebski
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Posted - 2009.12.02 20:15:00 -
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8x800
xl sb
inv field x2
sba
ab/mwd
cap booster 800
3x gyro
2xTE
em thermal charge economizer.
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2009.12.02 20:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Otebski
8x800
xl sb
inv field x2
sba
ab/mwd
cap booster 800
3x gyro
2xTE
em thermal charge economizer.
You fail @ EFT
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gnome blood
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Posted - 2009.12.02 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
I'm not convinced the Phoon won't actually be a better overall mission runner than the Mael.
-Liang
DonŠt think so. The Maelstrom tank & gank is far superior for Angel missions, especially when you consider native shield resist to explosive versus armor. And the relatively insane burst tank on the Maelstrom.
Boils down to being able to fit 2xTe and 3xGyro on a Mael, vs 2 or 3 dmg mods on an armor Phoon. Might be slightly better against Amarr, tho.
Different storyu when it comes to PVP, tho.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.02 20:41:00 -
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The Maelstrom is also insanely easy to fit with tons of powergrid and CPU, so even a relatively new BS pilot can put on a reasonable fit - the same cannot be said of the Typhoon, which I have found can be a challenge to fit appropriately, and in the hands of a newer BS pilot is hard to use effectively.
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Seriously Bored
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.02 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: gnome blood
DonŠt think so. The Maelstrom tank & gank is far superior for Angel missions, especially when you consider native shield resist to explosive versus armor. And the relatively insane burst tank on the Maelstrom.
Boils down to being able to fit 2xTe and 3xGyro on a Mael, vs 2 or 3 dmg mods on an armor Phoon. Might be slightly better against Amarr, tho.
Eah. I'm still messing around with it, but I have a Cruise Phoon fit with 720ish Ranged DPS going right now...it still needs kinks worked out, but it's looking pretty good stacked up to the Mael.
Even after the changes, the Mael starts losing enough DPS in falloff that the Phoon could overcome it after 30KM.
I think when all is said and done, the Phoon would post better missions times than the Mael, and could give the Raven a run for its money. That says nothing about the stupid amount of time you'd need to spend training for it however, which might be reason enough to go for the Mael instead.
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.12.02 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
The Maelstrom is also insanely easy to fit with tons of powergrid and CPU, so even a relatively new BS pilot can put on a reasonable fit - the same cannot be said of the Typhoon, which I have found can be a challenge to fit appropriately, and in the hands of a newer BS pilot is hard to use effectively.
Good point. My fitting and support skills for shield, armor, capacitor, etc are excellent, and I have AWU 5, but I don't have T2 large projectiles, T2 missiles, or T2 heavy/sentry drones, and it seems like I'd have to train all three to fly the Typhoon well. Right?
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.02 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Good point. My fitting and support skills for shield, armor, capacitor, etc are excellent, and I have AWU 5, but I don't have T2 large projectiles, T2 missiles, or T2 heavy/sentry drones, and it seems like I'd have to train all three to fly the Typhoon well. Right?
This is much less true with the new slot layout. It's one of the reasons I campaigned so hard for it.
-Liang
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Mysteriax
Scoopex
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.02 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mysteriax on 02/12/2009 22:01:34
Edited by: Mysteriax on 02/12/2009 22:00:25
I would fly something like this.
(fit made for guristas missions change ammo, drones and resists for other missions)
With good skills can fit the same setup with 1400's aswell but i prefer the tracking and rof of the 1200's
[Maelstrom, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Cap stable with good cap skills
682 dps
686 Guristas tank cap stable
31+72 range on the guns
Stats with 1400's
734 DPS
39+72 range
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Zeede Qinhua
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Posted - 2009.12.02 22:00:00 -
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With Dominion I use these modules in my highs:
2x Large Artillery
5x Cruise Launchers
1x Drone Link Augmentor (boosting my 5x Sentry Drones)
This means that I don't have to emphasize gunnery skills nearly as much as before, since cruise missiles and drones make up a larger percentage of my damage than was possible before.
On the flip side, if you want to go with 5x artillery and 2x launchers, you can do that too.
Zeede
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Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
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Posted - 2009.12.02 23:33:00 -
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Nobody mentioned the poor Tempest? I like the Jolly Roger
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