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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:42:00 -
[181]
 Originally by: DraizeTraiN
Well if your really modelling urself on Evol in any way, shape or form, may I suggest that you drop your policy of abandoning your alliance m8s in the middle of a conflict when the going gets a bit rough. We wouldnt do that.
Ah, so you'd have us stay in the PA until ccp stop running eve on any servers? As the PA will always be at war, much like most other alliances. We've been a member of the PA (nva/va) for almost a year and half, we've fought war after war for the PA and enjoyed it. But there is more to eve than one region, and we wanted to do more.
Also, I'd love to know how others think we've run away from the fighting. We stuck with the PA against all the NCA and the number of hostile corps against the pa at that time, over 100 at one point. We stuck with it and fought on until that number was reduced to 3 and the NCA were dead.
The PA have BOB to deal with now, but thats another war. BOB are still kos to r-k and will remain so. We have not reduced our number of enemies, but increased it by many many many corps...
If you can't understand that, then by all means you and everyone else, keep bringing this up in discussions in order to wtfpwn our posting  ..
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:42:00 -
[182]
Originally by: DraizeTraiN
Well if your really modelling urself on Evol in any way, shape or form, may I suggest that you drop your policy of abandoning your alliance m8s in the middle of a conflict when the going gets a bit rough. We wouldnt do that.
Ah, so you'd have us stay in the PA until ccp stop running eve on any servers? As the PA will always be at war, much like most other alliances. We've been a member of the PA (nva/va) for almost a year and half, we've fought war after war for the PA and enjoyed it. But there is more to eve than one region, and we wanted to do more.
Also, I'd love to know how others think we've run away from the fighting. We stuck with the PA against all the NCA and the number of hostile corps against the pa at that time, over 100 at one point. We stuck with it and fought on until that number was reduced to 3 and the NCA were dead.
The PA have BOB to deal with now, but thats another war. BOB are still kos to r-k and will remain so. We have not reduced our number of enemies, but increased it by many many many corps...
If you can't understand that, then by all means you and everyone else, keep bringing this up in discussions in order to wtfpwn our posting ..
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:42:00 -
[183]
Originally by: KIAHicks
Originally by: Malken
so you say you ahvent lost any battleships while being in CA ?
No, we have lost battleships in CA space, although not that many, we're still up on kill to losses, but I'm sure in the future we're going to lose more, both ganks and in fleet battles. It tends to happen when you fight a lot. But the game wouldn't be fun if you never lost a ship would it? Its the fear of losing a ship that gives you such an adrenaline rush (at least for me :)
What eddz was saying is that we just havn't lost any battleships yet during the trip to stain. I'm sure it will happen in time, but so long as we've killed more than we lose we'll be happy.
Also I think the "surrender" quote is made tounge in cheek :P I'm sure you'll get used to our humour after talking to us a little more :P
isnt that a kind of crappy statistic editing method?
i mean if we were only to list our losses in our listed headquarter system then ppl would call us liars wouldnt it.
everywhere you have forces(ships) and looses them it is still a loss.
trying to edit the statistics into your favor by excluding a section of space or all but one part of space is imho withholding the true amount of losses.
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:42:00 -
[184]
Originally by: KIAHicks
Originally by: Malken
so you say you ahvent lost any battleships while being in CA ?
No, we have lost battleships in CA space, although not that many, we're still up on kill to losses, but I'm sure in the future we're going to lose more, both ganks and in fleet battles. It tends to happen when you fight a lot. But the game wouldn't be fun if you never lost a ship would it? Its the fear of losing a ship that gives you such an adrenaline rush (at least for me :)
What eddz was saying is that we just havn't lost any battleships yet during the trip to stain. I'm sure it will happen in time, but so long as we've killed more than we lose we'll be happy.
Also I think the "surrender" quote is made tounge in cheek :P I'm sure you'll get used to our humour after talking to us a little more :P
isnt that a kind of crappy statistic editing method?
i mean if we were only to list our losses in our listed headquarter system then ppl would call us liars wouldnt it.
everywhere you have forces(ships) and looses them it is still a loss.
trying to edit the statistics into your favor by excluding a section of space or all but one part of space is imho withholding the true amount of losses.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:45:00 -
[185]
Originally by: DraizeTraiN
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Dont get me wrong, you guys are the best we have fought, and we modelled ourselves on you (the old you more than the "new" you), from day 1 of our corps existence.
Well if your really modelling urself on Evol in any way, shape or form, may I suggest that you drop your policy of abandoning your alliance m8s in the middle of a conflict when the going gets a bit rough. We wouldnt do that.
PLEASE!!!
this is from the corp that dropped FA like a bad habbit and are now threatening to WTFpwn them. in future check your comments before making yourself into a hypocrite.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:45:00 -
[186]
Originally by: DraizeTraiN
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Dont get me wrong, you guys are the best we have fought, and we modelled ourselves on you (the old you more than the "new" you), from day 1 of our corps existence.
Well if your really modelling urself on Evol in any way, shape or form, may I suggest that you drop your policy of abandoning your alliance m8s in the middle of a conflict when the going gets a bit rough. We wouldnt do that.
PLEASE!!!
this is from the corp that dropped FA like a bad habbit and are now threatening to WTFpwn them. in future check your comments before making yourself into a hypocrite.
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:48:00 -
[187]
Edited by: KIAHicks on 11/11/2004 17:52:47
Originally by: Malken
isnt that a kind of crappy statistic editing method?
i mean if we were only to list our losses in our listed headquarter system then ppl would call us liars wouldnt it.
everywhere you have forces(ships) and looses them it is still a loss.
trying to edit the statistics into your favor by excluding a section of space or all but one part of space is imho withholding the true amount of losses.
Depends. We like to treat each new battle as a new set of stats. When we were at war with people during our time in the PA we had our own war kill list, but when we moved down to fade to gank fade/cod pilots, we started a new list for kills/losses in fade. Even during that time, we kept seperate lists for each new enemy, unless they were linked somehow, like the NCA.
If anyone wants to give us a kill/loss site like the bob one or the pa one, then I'd love to keep a full list of every kill/loss.
We do this so we can see how effective we've been on a given op. The fact that between ops we lose ships and kill ships is irrelavant to us. We've made a number of pirate kills recently, but didn't count those as they were not part of our current op. It's just how we do things and until we get a decent webby to put kills/losses into, doing anything else is just too much like hard work.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:48:00 -
[188]
Edited by: KIAHicks on 11/11/2004 17:52:47
Originally by: Malken
isnt that a kind of crappy statistic editing method?
i mean if we were only to list our losses in our listed headquarter system then ppl would call us liars wouldnt it.
everywhere you have forces(ships) and looses them it is still a loss.
trying to edit the statistics into your favor by excluding a section of space or all but one part of space is imho withholding the true amount of losses.
Depends. We like to treat each new battle as a new set of stats. When we were at war with people during our time in the PA we had our own war kill list, but when we moved down to fade to gank fade/cod pilots, we started a new list for kills/losses in fade. Even during that time, we kept seperate lists for each new enemy, unless they were linked somehow, like the NCA.
If anyone wants to give us a kill/loss site like the bob one or the pa one, then I'd love to keep a full list of every kill/loss.
We do this so we can see how effective we've been on a given op. The fact that between ops we lose ships and kill ships is irrelavant to us. We've made a number of pirate kills recently, but didn't count those as they were not part of our current op. It's just how we do things and until we get a decent webby to put kills/losses into, doing anything else is just too much like hard work.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:55:00 -
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but your "new" way of measuring kills/losses against your enemies makes your 9 kills and 0 losses totally irrelevant since for whatever its worth you could have lost 35 BS to your enemies 1 system outside the area you said wich makes your listings of kills/losses totally bogus and totally unreliable.
who do you think will even believe you with that kind of creative editing of statistics.
i know i wont believe any of your kill/death ratios anyway.
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:55:00 -
[190]
but your "new" way of measuring kills/losses against your enemies makes your 9 kills and 0 losses totally irrelevant since for whatever its worth you could have lost 35 BS to your enemies 1 system outside the area you said wich makes your listings of kills/losses totally bogus and totally unreliable.
who do you think will even believe you with that kind of creative editing of statistics.
i know i wont believe any of your kill/death ratios anyway.
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:56:00 -
[191]
Heh
Only one thing comes to my mind everytime i read this forums.
If you all are so uber and we suck so much why is it always you to come and cry on forums? 
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:56:00 -
[192]
Heh
Only one thing comes to my mind everytime i read this forums.
If you all are so uber and we suck so much why is it always you to come and cry on forums?
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:59:00 -
[193]
When your frigates took my Raven that day, despite me attempting to explain that I was merely visting CA space because of the intel telling us of planned Evol invasion, your arrogance and benial attitude following was enough to make me add you to the grudge list.
qouted from kiedz or whatever
So when being in b-3 is in curse to see if evol was there is neutral ? and when we allready public asked PA to leave curse space u didnt... so dont see why u use those lame excuses
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2004.11.11 17:59:00 -
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When your frigates took my Raven that day, despite me attempting to explain that I was merely visting CA space because of the intel telling us of planned Evol invasion, your arrogance and benial attitude following was enough to make me add you to the grudge list.
qouted from kiedz or whatever
So when being in b-3 is in curse to see if evol was there is neutral ? and when we allready public asked PA to leave curse space u didnt... so dont see why u use those lame excuses
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2004.11.11 18:09:00 -
[195]
Originally by: UnIQu3
When your frigates took my Raven that day, despite me attempting to explain that I was merely visting CA space because of the intel telling us of planned Evol invasion, your arrogance and benial attitude following was enough to make me add you to the grudge list.
qouted from kiedz or whatever
So when being in b-3 is in curse to see if evol was there is neutral ? and when we allready public asked PA to leave curse space u didnt... so dont see why u use those lame excuses
what is this? you're showing us that you're a dumm kid who cant respect other player or just using forums quoting is to much for you?
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2004.11.11 18:09:00 -
[196]
Originally by: UnIQu3
When your frigates took my Raven that day, despite me attempting to explain that I was merely visting CA space because of the intel telling us of planned Evol invasion, your arrogance and benial attitude following was enough to make me add you to the grudge list.
qouted from kiedz or whatever
So when being in b-3 is in curse to see if evol was there is neutral ? and when we allready public asked PA to leave curse space u didnt... so dont see why u use those lame excuses
what is this? you're showing us that you're a dumm kid who cant respect other player or just using forums quoting is to much for you?
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Zelota
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:15:00 -
[197]
where is estrios POTTAH!......loged of HOW LAME!
Vid of the week |
Zelota
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:15:00 -
[198]
where is estrios POTTAH!......loged of HOW LAME!
Vid of the week |
DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:23:00 -
[199]
Edited by: DirtyHarry on 11/11/2004 19:26:37
Rona-Kia > you 
-Havo
-Havo
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Sig: Mirus Crosius <3
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |
DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:23:00 -
[200]
Edited by: DirtyHarry on 11/11/2004 19:26:37
Rona-Kia > you
-Havo
-Havo
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Sig: Mirus Crosius <3
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |
KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:30:00 -
[201]
Edited by: KIAHicks on 11/11/2004 19:34:32
Originally by: Malken
but your "new" way of measuring kills/losses against your enemies makes your 9 kills and 0 losses totally irrelevant since for whatever its worth you could have lost 35 BS to your enemies 1 system outside the area you said wich makes your listings of kills/losses totally bogus and totally unreliable.
who do you think will even believe you with that kind of creative editing of statistics.
i know i wont believe any of your kill/death ratios anyway.
The method isn't new, it's how we've always done things. It's just the theater that is. We're aware of the ships lost and kills made on other fronts, such as within curse. But for the force opperating in stain space, those figures are accurate. For the forces opperating elsewhere, well they're free to post figures if they want as well.
If our current stain opperating fleet was ganked one jump outside stain of 100, it wouldn't matter, so long as it was by stain and they were part of the r-k stain op fleet, it would be counted in the figures. This is how we judge how well an op went, even though you cannot deduce from it the state of the war, you can see how the op went. and incase your wondering, no we don't count a one night hit and run as an op :P
Besides, how did we get sidetracked from the original point of the thread. Anyhow, I don't plan on debating statistics with you, feel free to keep the convo going with others though.
and if anyone wants to provide r-k with a kill/loss website we'll put it to good use :) I just don't have the skills to make a good one in any sort of reasonable time.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:30:00 -
[202]
Edited by: KIAHicks on 11/11/2004 19:34:32
Originally by: Malken
but your "new" way of measuring kills/losses against your enemies makes your 9 kills and 0 losses totally irrelevant since for whatever its worth you could have lost 35 BS to your enemies 1 system outside the area you said wich makes your listings of kills/losses totally bogus and totally unreliable.
who do you think will even believe you with that kind of creative editing of statistics.
i know i wont believe any of your kill/death ratios anyway.
The method isn't new, it's how we've always done things. It's just the theater that is. We're aware of the ships lost and kills made on other fronts, such as within curse. But for the force opperating in stain space, those figures are accurate. For the forces opperating elsewhere, well they're free to post figures if they want as well.
If our current stain opperating fleet was ganked one jump outside stain of 100, it wouldn't matter, so long as it was by stain and they were part of the r-k stain op fleet, it would be counted in the figures. This is how we judge how well an op went, even though you cannot deduce from it the state of the war, you can see how the op went. and incase your wondering, no we don't count a one night hit and run as an op :P
Besides, how did we get sidetracked from the original point of the thread. Anyhow, I don't plan on debating statistics with you, feel free to keep the convo going with others though.
and if anyone wants to provide r-k with a kill/loss website we'll put it to good use :) I just don't have the skills to make a good one in any sort of reasonable time.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:33:00 -
[203]
Originally by: DirtyHarry
Edited by: DirtyHarry on 11/11/2004 19:26:37
Rona-Kia > you
-Havo
www.dark-cartel.com |
Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:33:00 -
[204]
Originally by: DirtyHarry
Edited by: DirtyHarry on 11/11/2004 19:26:37
Rona-Kia > you
-Havo
www.dark-cartel.com |
Evil Thug
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:38:00 -
[205]
Edited by: Evil Thug on 11/11/2004 19:42:00
[ 2004.08.15 16:51:27 ] Estios > so how many ship advantage do you want in system before you undock ?
[ 2004.08.15 16:52:49 ] M1NeR > battle 1vs1
[ 2004.08.15 16:52:53 ] M1NeR > ?
[ 2004.08.15 16:53:27 ] Estios > ok , where ?
[ 2004.08.15 16:54:34 ] M1NeR > planet 1
[ 2004.08.15 16:55:51 ] M1NeR > Undock
[ 2004.08.15 16:57:13 ] Estios > im there
Warping in, see Tempest... Lock target, after 6 seconds of battle - he is on fire... Gang warp 2 bs on him + vigil, i killed him, and do some damage on megatron, i died...
2004.08.15 16:59:00
Victim: Estios
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Destroyed Type: Tempest
Solar System: H-ADOC
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: M1NeR (laid the final blow)
Security Status: -2.8
Corporation: R.u.S.H.
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Mega Pulse Laser I
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2004.08.15 17:00:00
Victim: M1NeR
Corporation: R.u.S.H.
Destroyed Type: Armageddon
Solar System: H-ADOC
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Thomdril Merrilin (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 2.3
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Limited Electron Blaster Cannon I
Name: Estios
Security Status: 1.5
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Ship Type: Capsule
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Viconi
Security Status: 1.3
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Ship Type: Vigil
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: n00b script0r
Security Status: 2.0
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
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local Chat
[ 2004.08.15 16:59:51 ] M1NeR > >=E
[ 2004.08.15 17:00:39 ] Estate Girl > good damage on that thing
[ 2004.08.15 17:00:50 ] Estios > ******* sweeet damage
[ 2004.08.15 17:01:15 ] M1NeR > 1 VS 1
[ 2004.08.15 17:01:19 ] M1NeR > LOL
[ 2004.08.15 17:05:51 ] M1NeR > all you gyus SUXXXXXXXXXX
[ 2004.08.15 17:06:35 ] M1NeR > coward
[ 2004.08.15 17:07:58 ] Thomdril Merrilin > nice damage from the geddon
[ 2004.08.15 17:08:32 ] Thomdril Merrilin > u won the 1v1, Kudos
while (1)
killurselfProc(ATUK)
CYA ! Idiot...
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Ash to Ash
Dust to Dust |
Evil Thug
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:38:00 -
[206]
Edited by: Evil Thug on 11/11/2004 19:42:00
[ 2004.08.15 16:51:27 ] Estios > so how many ship advantage do you want in system before you undock ?
[ 2004.08.15 16:52:49 ] M1NeR > battle 1vs1
[ 2004.08.15 16:52:53 ] M1NeR > ?
[ 2004.08.15 16:53:27 ] Estios > ok , where ?
[ 2004.08.15 16:54:34 ] M1NeR > planet 1
[ 2004.08.15 16:55:51 ] M1NeR > Undock
[ 2004.08.15 16:57:13 ] Estios > im there
Warping in, see Tempest... Lock target, after 6 seconds of battle - he is on fire... Gang warp 2 bs on him + vigil, i killed him, and do some damage on megatron, i died...
2004.08.15 16:59:00
Victim: Estios
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Destroyed Type: Tempest
Solar System: H-ADOC
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: M1NeR (laid the final blow)
Security Status: -2.8
Corporation: R.u.S.H.
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Mega Pulse Laser I
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2004.08.15 17:00:00
Victim: M1NeR
Corporation: R.u.S.H.
Destroyed Type: Armageddon
Solar System: H-ADOC
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Thomdril Merrilin (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 2.3
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Limited Electron Blaster Cannon I
Name: Estios
Security Status: 1.5
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Ship Type: Capsule
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Viconi
Security Status: 1.3
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Ship Type: Vigil
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: n00b script0r
Security Status: 2.0
Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
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local Chat
[ 2004.08.15 16:59:51 ] M1NeR > >=E
[ 2004.08.15 17:00:39 ] Estate Girl > good damage on that thing
[ 2004.08.15 17:00:50 ] Estios > ******* sweeet damage
[ 2004.08.15 17:01:15 ] M1NeR > 1 VS 1
[ 2004.08.15 17:01:19 ] M1NeR > LOL
[ 2004.08.15 17:05:51 ] M1NeR > all you gyus SUXXXXXXXXXX
[ 2004.08.15 17:06:35 ] M1NeR > coward
[ 2004.08.15 17:07:58 ] Thomdril Merrilin > nice damage from the geddon
[ 2004.08.15 17:08:32 ] Thomdril Merrilin > u won the 1v1, Kudos
while (1)
killurselfProc(ATUK)
CYA ! Idiot...
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Ash to Ash
Dust to Dust |
Evil Thug
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:43:00 -
[207]
Honor... Plz, dont use this word anymore, it stinks, when i heard it from ATUK...
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Ash to Ash
Dust to Dust |
Evil Thug
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:43:00 -
[208]
Honor... Plz, dont use this word anymore, it stinks, when i heard it from ATUK...
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Ash to Ash
Dust to Dust |
Servo
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Posted - 2004.11.11 20:05:00 -
[209]
Yeah they're (ronakia) all over in the Utopia system in curse ruining everything there for decent players, being rude obnoxious idiots for no reason to supposed friends. Please come kill them, I'd like my neighborhood restored to normalcy instead of the ghetto they've made out of it.
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Servo
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Posted - 2004.11.11 20:05:00 -
[210]
Yeah they're (ronakia) all over in the Utopia system in curse ruining everything there for decent players, being rude obnoxious idiots for no reason to supposed friends. Please come kill them, I'd like my neighborhood restored to normalcy instead of the ghetto they've made out of it.
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