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Lobster Man
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2009.12.06 08:06:00 -
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I've noticed that since dominion, some of my ships seem to be having a bit of a difficult time tanking sentry fire. For example, my hyp with 1med/1lg rep (before dominion) had no issue at all tanking sentry fire with just the med rep running and the occasional pulse of the large rep. Now with both of them running I seem to be having a difficult time keeping ahead of the sentry guns. A few of my alliance mates have said it does seem like the sentry guns have been doing more damage recently. I couldn't find anything on the patch notes either...
Has anyone else noticed anything like this or am I just going crazy...
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Grunanca
Final Agony
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Posted - 2009.12.06 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: Grunanca on 06/12/2009 08:23:00 If this is really true, CCP screwed us over good, they have been nerfing pirates left and right ever since the game came out. And for every one dps they have raised the sentry guns a hulk will die the coming week...
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.12.06 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca Edited by: Grunanca on 06/12/2009 08:23:00 If this is really true, CCP screwed us over good, they have been nerfing pirates left and right ever since the game came out. And for every one dps they have raised the sentry guns a hulk will die the coming week...
So thats like no hulks then?
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
HYDRA PROVAIL!
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Fernous
Gallente Section Eight LLC Omega Vector
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Posted - 2009.12.06 09:07:00 -
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I had both gate guns and a HAM drake hitting me at a gate while I was in my mega, Drake was using CN Fulmination ( lowest resist EXP )
They both started at the same time
The delt nearly equal damage
So yeah, Definite increase
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Angela Relens
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Posted - 2009.12.06 09:39:00 -
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this happens after every patch.
some guy was whining about how his harpy or something could gate guns before apocrypha and now it couldn't.
gate guns have same amount of fire.
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Mitsune Konno
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Posted - 2009.12.06 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Angela Relens this happens after every patch.
some guy was whining about how his harpy or something could gate guns before apocrypha and now it couldn't.
gate guns have same amount of fire.
How do you know this? Care to involve some sort of evidence proving otherwise, or is it only required that you include a douchey remark before giving random info.
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.06 19:51:00 -
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Post logs of how much damage the gateguns are hitting you with...instead of this "speculation-tinfoil-hat-thingy"
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eve warrior
Minmatar Filthy Scum Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.06 22:44:00 -
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I been camping all day, some solo and gang stuff and have not seen any change in sentry dps. Seems all good to me.
ew
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abrasive soap
X-Fleet RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2009.12.06 23:29:00 -
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maybe you should take up a more honourable profession
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.06 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: abrasive soap maybe you should take up a more honourable profession
Like can flipping and suicide ganking
Originally by: Hamshoe
Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.
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Muaina Naura
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Posted - 2009.12.07 00:14:00 -
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Were those minmatar gateguns?
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.12.07 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca Edited by: Grunanca on 06/12/2009 08:23:00 If this is really true, CCP screwed us over good, they have been nerfing pirates left and right ever since the game came out. And for every one dps they have raised the sentry guns a hulk will die the coming week...
Hurf blurf stupid pirates, always complaining ---
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.12.07 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mitsune Konno
Originally by: Angela Relens this happens after every patch.
some guy was whining about how his harpy or something could gate guns before apocrypha and now it couldn't.
gate guns have same amount of fire.
How do you know this? Care to involve some sort of evidence proving otherwise, or is it only required that you include a douchey remark before giving random info.
Because that wasnt exactly what the OP was doing....
My bets are on the same thing it always is.. Either you have conveniently forgotten that you usually gate camp in gangs, or there is a bug that's not applying one of your bonuses correctly (skill/ship/module/combo)... Or it is applying it correctly now and it wasn't before..
If you truly have evidence that the guns are doing more damage (and I don't think you do) then file a bug report as a boost is not in the patch notes and therefor unexpected.
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
HYDRA PROVAIL!
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.12.07 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lana Torrin on 07/12/2009 00:50:46 Oops..
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
HYDRA PROVAIL!
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Lobster Man
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2009.12.07 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lobster Man on 07/12/2009 05:45:20 Well I don't personally have any logs still from before dominion, but a quick google search turns up stuff like:
check the thread here, I can only assume this was in a BS: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=213061&page=1
or something a little more recent: http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:vHVVtd-PuIoJ:pastebin.com/pastebin.php%3Fdl%3Dd57c2f383+%22sentry+gun+hits+you%22&cd=41&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
And then I have my fairly well tanked hyp, that used to take damage less than: [ 2009.12.06 07:44:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 299.7 damage. [ 2009.12.06 07:44:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 337.5 damage. [ 2009.12.06 07:44:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 405.3 damage. [ 2009.12.06 07:44:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 337.9 damage. [ 2009.12.06 07:45:00 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 282.2 damage. [ 2009.12.06 07:45:00 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 323.9 damage.
Maybe it is just in my head.....
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Endless Subversion
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.12.07 14:54:00 -
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2x Gate guns (all low sec gates/stations) jointly do 352dps. They do 18% exp and emp and 32% kin and therm.
What you need to do is post your resists and post your dmg logs and we can see if the breakdown is still the same. I bet it is.
Make sure your log is more than a few volleys since I'm unsure on whether or not sentries can do things like wrecking shots.
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Lobster Man
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:59:00 -
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This is with a myrm and the following resists (as displayed in game): 78em/71thm/71kin/60exp
[ 2009.12.07 19:55:26 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 167.5 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:26 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 150.3 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:29 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 175.9 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:29 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 103.4 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:31 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 166.8 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:31 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 148.3 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:34 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 116.6 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:34 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun barely scratches you, causing 81.2 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:37 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 126.6 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:37 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun lightly hits you, doing 92.4 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:39 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun barely scratches you, causing 71.7 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:39 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun barely scratches you, causing 75.5 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:42 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 127.1 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:42 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 129.4 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:44 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun barely scratches you, causing 81.9 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:44 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 151.6 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:47 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 178.3 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:47 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 177.1 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:49 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 100.7 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:49 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 130.1 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:52 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 194.7 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:52 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 110.8 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun barely scratches you, causing 83.5 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun barely scratches you, causing 78.6 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun lightly hits you, doing 96.5 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 176.6 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:59 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 182.6 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:55:59 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun barely scratches you, causing 79.1 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:56:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 122.6 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:56:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 161.6 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:56:04 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun hits you, doing 118.5 damage. [ 2009.12.07 19:56:04 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Gallente Sentry Gun aims well at you, inflicting 136.3 damage.
This is much closer to what I remember, maybe the dps hasn't necessarily increased, but maybe they do more damage to targets with a larger sig radius now? (my hyp wasn't immediately available for testing and this was the biggest thing I had at the station I'm docked in)
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Endless Subversion
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.12.08 02:15:00 -
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I'll have a look at those numbers while I'm at work tomorrow, but I bet they're right where they're supposed to be.
You should post hype numbers.
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Airtight Alibi
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Posted - 2009.12.08 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lobster Man my hyp with 1med/1lg rep
o_O
lol wat
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Endless Subversion
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.12.08 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Endless Subversion on 08/12/2009 16:02:49
Gun Stats: 2x Sentries are 352dps. 1x Sentry is 176dps Kin = Therm =(.318*total)= 55.968dps Exp = Em= (.182*total) = 32.023dps
So expected DPS vs 71k/71t/60exp/78em is .29k+.29k+.4e+.22e = .58K + .62e = 52.3157 damage per second.
Your Numbers Time is 36 seconds (ignoring last shot) Shots are 30 shots or 15 per gun Dmg is 3838.8 total Average RoF is then 2.4 Average Dmg per shot is 127.96
Your Avg damage per second vs 71k/71t/60exp/78em over 38 seconds[/u] 127.96/2.4 = 53.32 damage per second
That's less than 2% off of what it should be and with rounded armor resist numbers and only 30 shots taken. That's basically spot on.
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Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.12.08 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Endless Subversion Edited by: Endless Subversion on 08/12/2009 16:02:49
Gun Stats: 2x Sentries are 352dps. 1x Sentry is 176dps Kin = Therm =(.318*total)= 55.968dps Exp = Em= (.182*total) = 32.023dps
So expected DPS vs 71k/71t/60exp/78em is .29k+.29k+.4e+.22e = .58K + .62e = 52.3157 damage per second.
Your Numbers Time is 36 seconds (ignoring last shot) Shots are 30 shots or 15 per gun Dmg is 3838.8 total Average RoF is then 2.4 Average Dmg per shot is 127.96
Your Avg damage per second vs 71k/71t/60exp/78em over 38 seconds[/u] 127.96/2.4 = 53.32 damage per second
That's less than 2% off of what it should be and with rounded armor resist numbers and only 30 shots taken. That's basically spot on.
to much time on your hands..
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.12.08 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Endless Subversion Edited by: Endless Subversion on 08/12/2009 16:02:49
Gun Stats: 2x Sentries are 352dps. 1x Sentry is 176dps Kin = Therm =(.318*total)= 55.968dps Exp = Em= (.182*total) = 32.023dps
So expected DPS vs 71k/71t/60exp/78em is .29k+.29k+.4e+.22e = .58K + .62e = 52.3157 damage per second.
Your Numbers Time is 36 seconds (ignoring last shot) Shots are 30 shots or 15 per gun Dmg is 3838.8 total Average RoF is then 2.4 Average Dmg per shot is 127.96
Your Avg damage per second vs 71k/71t/60exp/78em over 38 seconds[/u] 127.96/2.4 = 53.32 damage per second
That's less than 2% off of what it should be and with rounded armor resist numbers and only 30 shots taken. That's basically spot on.
Have you ever kissed a girl, son? ---
I was going to run for CSM but life waylaid me :( |
Tesal
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Posted - 2009.12.08 16:59:00 -
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Internet spaceship nerds making fun of math nerd.
never stop posting...with alts. Please do not use inappropriate language in your sig. Zymurgist |
The Slayer
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.08 17:05:00 -
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Wow, guy posts some basic primary level math that proves the people who took time out of their day to come here and post about an imaginary nerf to their precious lowsec camping are talking out their asses and HE is the one who gets grief for it? You disappoint me internet.
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LordTiberius
Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2009.12.08 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Endless Subversion Edited by: Endless Subversion on 08/12/2009 16:02:49
Gun Stats: 2x Sentries are 352dps. 1x Sentry is 176dps Kin = Therm =(.318*total)= 55.968dps Exp = Em= (.182*total) = 32.023dps
So expected DPS vs 71k/71t/60exp/78em is .29k+.29k+.4e+.22e = .58K + .62e = 52.3157 damage per second.
Your Numbers Time is 36 seconds (ignoring last shot) Shots are 30 shots or 15 per gun Dmg is 3838.8 total Average RoF is then 2.4 Average Dmg per shot is 127.96
Your Avg damage per second vs 71k/71t/60exp/78em over 38 seconds[/u] 127.96/2.4 = 53.32 damage per second
That's less than 2% off of what it should be and with rounded armor resist numbers and only 30 shots taken. That's basically spot on.
I think we can lay this thread to rest.
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