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Illystin De'Vir	Posted - 2004.11.12 22:07:00 - [31] Originally by: Winged Mailer Greetings! Imperial Knights are folks that have played on-line games together for 1 year or more. Most of us are EnB refugees from the "Imperial Guardians" and several of us date back to the days of the "Dark Empire" there. Good to see more folks from the Dark Empire here. Give us a convo m8. Would love to get back in touch with you guys. Illystin De'Vir Imperial Guardians Formerly Dark Empire ----
Illystin De'Vir	Posted - 2004.11.12 22:07:00 - [32] Originally by: Winged Mailer Greetings! Imperial Knights are folks that have played on-line games together for 1 year or more. Most of us are EnB refugees from the "Imperial Guardians" and several of us date back to the days of the "Dark Empire" there. Good to see more folks from the Dark Empire here. Give us a convo m8. Would love to get back in touch with you guys. Illystin De'Vir Imperial Guardians Formerly Dark Empire ----
Illystin De'Vir Minmatar Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2004.11.12 22:07:00 - [33] Originally by: Winged Mailer Greetings! Imperial Knights are folks that have played on-line games together for 1 year or more. Most of us are EnB refugees from the "Imperial Guardians" and several of us date back to the days of the "Dark Empire" there. Good to see more folks from the Dark Empire here. Give us a convo m8. Would love to get back in touch with you guys. Illystin De'Vir Imperial Guardians Formerly Dark Empire ---- - Resurrection is now accepting applications from mature and self-sufficient individuals looking to be reborn
Kin Oreyn	Posted - 2004.11.13 22:14:00 - [34] So let me get this straight... You want someone else to protect you completely from players and npcs whilst you pop all of their roids. You also don't want to pay them anything besides the refining cut from the station. And you are incapable of any form of combat ... Empire space was made for carebears, you'd get eaten alive anywhere in unsecured space. Go to any bistot field and start popping roids and it won't be long until you wake up in a cloning tank
Kin Oreyn	Posted - 2004.11.13 22:14:00 - [35] So let me get this straight... You want someone else to protect you completely from players and npcs whilst you pop all of their roids. You also don't want to pay them anything besides the refining cut from the station. And you are incapable of any form of combat ... Empire space was made for carebears, you'd get eaten alive anywhere in unsecured space. Go to any bistot field and start popping roids and it won't be long until you wake up in a cloning tank
Kin Oreyn Aliastra	Posted - 2004.11.13 22:14:00 - [36] So let me get this straight... You want someone else to protect you completely from players and npcs whilst you pop all of their roids. You also don't want to pay them anything besides the refining cut from the station. And you are incapable of any form of combat ... Empire space was made for carebears, you'd get eaten alive anywhere in unsecured space. Go to any bistot field and start popping roids and it won't be long until you wake up in a cloning tank -KO
Winged Mailer	Posted - 2004.11.14 11:19:00 - [37] Greetings! Much thanks for all of your responses! For what it's worth we have received 4 solid offers to do business and even 2 offers for mergers. Even the negative stuff has been most entertaining :) Again, much thanks! Winged
Winged Mailer	Posted - 2004.11.14 11:19:00 - [38] Greetings! Much thanks for all of your responses! For what it's worth we have received 4 solid offers to do business and even 2 offers for mergers. Even the negative stuff has been most entertaining :) Again, much thanks! Winged
Winged Mailer	Posted - 2004.11.14 11:19:00 - [39] Greetings! Much thanks for all of your responses! For what it's worth we have received 4 solid offers to do business and even 2 offers for mergers. Even the negative stuff has been most entertaining :) Again, much thanks! Winged
Statics	Posted - 2004.11.14 20:37:00 - [40] You should join NSA! You'd be perfect!
Statics	Posted - 2004.11.14 20:37:00 - [41] You should join NSA! You'd be perfect!
Statics A.W.M	Posted - 2004.11.14 20:37:00 - [42] You should join NSA! You'd be perfect!
Darial	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:25:00 - [43] Hey Winged, long time no see mate. You want to be careful about who you do this kind of operation with, cause some will let you mine away and then kill you all and keep all the ore. Especailly since you openly say you have 0 PvP experience. You guys have a lot of friends in Jazz (mostly ex DE ppl), and I'm sure we wouldn't mind helping you guys out. So keep in touch, and convo me if you need any help/info.
Darial	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:25:00 - [44] Hey Winged, long time no see mate. You want to be careful about who you do this kind of operation with, cause some will let you mine away and then kill you all and keep all the ore. Especailly since you openly say you have 0 PvP experience. You guys have a lot of friends in Jazz (mostly ex DE ppl), and I'm sure we wouldn't mind helping you guys out. So keep in touch, and convo me if you need any help/info.
Darial	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:25:00 - [45] Hey Winged, long time no see mate. You want to be careful about who you do this kind of operation with, cause some will let you mine away and then kill you all and keep all the ore. Especailly since you openly say you have 0 PvP experience. You guys have a lot of friends in Jazz (mostly ex DE ppl), and I'm sure we wouldn't mind helping you guys out. So keep in touch, and convo me if you need any help/info.
Outlander	Posted - 2004.11.17 18:01:00 - [46] I laughed, I cried, and I shook my head... You are guarenteed to find someone that will take you up on your offer but just be aware of one thing; 0.0 space is NEVER safe. The whole point of 0.0 space is that is UNsafe. Alliances provide protection and own space but a lone pirate or enemy fleet may still penetrate far enough to catch your miners or haulers. This is espically true if you plan on operating in the "back 40" as you may be 10-15 jumps away from the nearest defense fleet capable of repelling an enemy fleet. A lone APOC kitted right can kill almost any NPC rat spawn so you don't need much for NPC defense. And good luck finding a group willing to replace implants if your members get ganked. As a rule of thumb in 0.0, implants and ship mods are use at your own risk because they can be lost rather easily, are not insurable, and expensive when you get the really good ones. Choosing an alliance is like choosing anything; if it is too good to be true it probably is not true. Listen to what they say carefully. It isn't easy in 0.0 but with the proper training and experience a dedicated corporation can thrive. Oh yeah, Go NSA!
Outlander	Posted - 2004.11.17 18:01:00 - [47] I laughed, I cried, and I shook my head... You are guarenteed to find someone that will take you up on your offer but just be aware of one thing; 0.0 space is NEVER safe. The whole point of 0.0 space is that is UNsafe. Alliances provide protection and own space but a lone pirate or enemy fleet may still penetrate far enough to catch your miners or haulers. This is espically true if you plan on operating in the "back 40" as you may be 10-15 jumps away from the nearest defense fleet capable of repelling an enemy fleet. A lone APOC kitted right can kill almost any NPC rat spawn so you don't need much for NPC defense. And good luck finding a group willing to replace implants if your members get ganked. As a rule of thumb in 0.0, implants and ship mods are use at your own risk because they can be lost rather easily, are not insurable, and expensive when you get the really good ones. Choosing an alliance is like choosing anything; if it is too good to be true it probably is not true. Listen to what they say carefully. It isn't easy in 0.0 but with the proper training and experience a dedicated corporation can thrive. Oh yeah, Go NSA!
Outlander VentureCorp	Posted - 2004.11.17 18:01:00 - [48] I laughed, I cried, and I shook my head... You are guarenteed to find someone that will take you up on your offer but just be aware of one thing; 0.0 space is NEVER safe. The whole point of 0.0 space is that is UNsafe. Alliances provide protection and own space but a lone pirate or enemy fleet may still penetrate far enough to catch your miners or haulers. This is espically true if you plan on operating in the "back 40" as you may be 10-15 jumps away from the nearest defense fleet capable of repelling an enemy fleet. A lone APOC kitted right can kill almost any NPC rat spawn so you don't need much for NPC defense. And good luck finding a group willing to replace implants if your members get ganked. As a rule of thumb in 0.0, implants and ship mods are use at your own risk because they can be lost rather easily, are not insurable, and expensive when you get the really good ones. Choosing an alliance is like choosing anything; if it is too good to be true it probably is not true. Listen to what they say carefully. It isn't easy in 0.0 but with the proper training and experience a dedicated corporation can thrive. Oh yeah, Go NSA!
Zaine Bishop	Posted - 2004.11.18 00:52:00 - [49] Am i the only one who saw this at the end of his message: Arrangements with regard to "split" will be clearly negotiated and detailed prior to any operation. He's not asking for "Something for Nothing". He clearly states that everyone will make money. Look at it this way. The PVPers keep the rats and players off them while they uber mine some desolate belt. They would be doing what they like anyway... killing. In return they get a large chunk of minerals without having to commit much to the process. They send out a coupple cruisers and 1 BS to run security... and in return they have 6-8 (by the way the email reads) ships just mining like crazy. Everyone gets a split and everyone is doing what they want to do. Maybe I'm missing something here but I dont know why people think this is a bad deal. I do agree that you cant take responsibility for implants and high end mods, but replacing their ships because of an error on the part of the security team sounds more than reasonable. Zaine
Zaine Bishop	Posted - 2004.11.18 00:52:00 - [50] Am i the only one who saw this at the end of his message: Arrangements with regard to "split" will be clearly negotiated and detailed prior to any operation. He's not asking for "Something for Nothing". He clearly states that everyone will make money. Look at it this way. The PVPers keep the rats and players off them while they uber mine some desolate belt. They would be doing what they like anyway... killing. In return they get a large chunk of minerals without having to commit much to the process. They send out a coupple cruisers and 1 BS to run security... and in return they have 6-8 (by the way the email reads) ships just mining like crazy. Everyone gets a split and everyone is doing what they want to do. Maybe I'm missing something here but I dont know why people think this is a bad deal. I do agree that you cant take responsibility for implants and high end mods, but replacing their ships because of an error on the part of the security team sounds more than reasonable. Zaine
Zaine Bishop	Posted - 2004.11.18 00:52:00 - [51] Am i the only one who saw this at the end of his message: Arrangements with regard to "split" will be clearly negotiated and detailed prior to any operation. He's not asking for "Something for Nothing". He clearly states that everyone will make money. Look at it this way. The PVPers keep the rats and players off them while they uber mine some desolate belt. They would be doing what they like anyway... killing. In return they get a large chunk of minerals without having to commit much to the process. They send out a coupple cruisers and 1 BS to run security... and in return they have 6-8 (by the way the email reads) ships just mining like crazy. Everyone gets a split and everyone is doing what they want to do. Maybe I'm missing something here but I dont know why people think this is a bad deal. I do agree that you cant take responsibility for implants and high end mods, but replacing their ships because of an error on the part of the security team sounds more than reasonable. Zaine
Kipkruide	Posted - 2004.11.18 08:51:00 - [52] lol you pop a high end roid in alliance space and we're right there to pop you, you need to keep those things at 1k or you will be waiting for ever for them to regrow. don;t think there is an alliance which doesn;t enforce thsi rule or their space would be worthless in about a month.
Kipkruide	Posted - 2004.11.18 08:51:00 - [53] lol you pop a high end roid in alliance space and we're right there to pop you, you need to keep those things at 1k or you will be waiting for ever for them to regrow. don;t think there is an alliance which doesn;t enforce thsi rule or their space would be worthless in about a month.
Kipkruide Quantum Dynamics	Posted - 2004.11.18 08:51:00 - [54] lol you pop a high end roid in alliance space and we're right there to pop you, you need to keep those things at 1k or you will be waiting for ever for them to regrow. don;t think there is an alliance which doesn;t enforce thsi rule or their space would be worthless in about a month.
Eleese	Posted - 2004.11.20 22:18:00 - [55] Quote: lol you pop a high end roid in alliance space and we're right there to pop you, you need to keep those things at 1k or you will be waiting for ever for them to regrow. don;t think there is an alliance which doesn;t enforce thsi rule or their space would be worthless in about a month. Alot of alliances including xetic have this no popping rule (although it is quite an interesting topic) We experimented and we totally stripped a belt killing the high end roids, and then farmed another belts and infact the popped roids respawned bigger than the farmed belt and even gained an extra high end roid. but as i understand it after shiva there will be a risk if u pop high end roids they will come back as veld or some other low end roid. I very much doubt your find an alliance to take you in as entirely Miners without paying a quite hefty tax or asked to cover some pvp expense to contribute to defencse in another way. Your never be totally safe mining in alliance space CA can get fleet down to bottom regions of xetic, and even us carebears can get to cache with miner 2's so to expect total defense is unrealistic. But goodluck finding an alliance with an acceptable tax/cost.
Eleese	Posted - 2004.11.20 22:18:00 - [56] Quote: lol you pop a high end roid in alliance space and we're right there to pop you, you need to keep those things at 1k or you will be waiting for ever for them to regrow. don;t think there is an alliance which doesn;t enforce thsi rule or their space would be worthless in about a month. Alot of alliances including xetic have this no popping rule (although it is quite an interesting topic) We experimented and we totally stripped a belt killing the high end roids, and then farmed another belts and infact the popped roids respawned bigger than the farmed belt and even gained an extra high end roid. but as i understand it after shiva there will be a risk if u pop high end roids they will come back as veld or some other low end roid. I very much doubt your find an alliance to take you in as entirely Miners without paying a quite hefty tax or asked to cover some pvp expense to contribute to defencse in another way. Your never be totally safe mining in alliance space CA can get fleet down to bottom regions of xetic, and even us carebears can get to cache with miner 2's so to expect total defense is unrealistic. But goodluck finding an alliance with an acceptable tax/cost.
Eleese Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2004.11.20 22:18:00 - [57] Quote: lol you pop a high end roid in alliance space and we're right there to pop you, you need to keep those things at 1k or you will be waiting for ever for them to regrow. don;t think there is an alliance which doesn;t enforce thsi rule or their space would be worthless in about a month. Alot of alliances including xetic have this no popping rule (although it is quite an interesting topic) We experimented and we totally stripped a belt killing the high end roids, and then farmed another belts and infact the popped roids respawned bigger than the farmed belt and even gained an extra high end roid. but as i understand it after shiva there will be a risk if u pop high end roids they will come back as veld or some other low end roid. I very much doubt your find an alliance to take you in as entirely Miners without paying a quite hefty tax or asked to cover some pvp expense to contribute to defencse in another way. Your never be totally safe mining in alliance space CA can get fleet down to bottom regions of xetic, and even us carebears can get to cache with miner 2's so to expect total defense is unrealistic. But goodluck finding an alliance with an acceptable tax/cost.
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:22:00 - [58] I could just be naive, but judging from the brightness of alliance spaces, it seems as though a sector could be strip mined, left alone for weeks while other sectors are stripped, and then returned to in a rotation. Does this not work? Caveat: I'm not trying to enter any alliance, merely to better understand the ore respawn system. --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:22:00 - [59] I could just be naive, but judging from the brightness of alliance spaces, it seems as though a sector could be strip mined, left alone for weeks while other sectors are stripped, and then returned to in a rotation. Does this not work? Caveat: I'm not trying to enter any alliance, merely to better understand the ore respawn system. --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
Zaintiraris Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:22:00 - [60] I could just be naive, but judging from the brightness of alliance spaces, it seems as though a sector could be strip mined, left alone for weeks while other sectors are stripped, and then returned to in a rotation. Does this not work? Caveat: I'm not trying to enter any alliance, merely to better understand the ore respawn system. --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.

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