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Rakuras Forged Dominion	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:21:00 - [1] Hello C&P people, today I bring you a 15 billion sum of betrayal, all at the hands of Interstellar Federal Forces. Today, after getting home from a friends I log back on to find our WH POS's shield down and reds all over- the recent mercs that dec'd us 'cause they were bored/our member ransomed them in a WH a month ago. They left the POS alone, testament to what had occurred. Now for the back story: Late last week our CEO of IFF gave those who standardly lived in the WH notice that we were to leave IFF as he no longer wanted us to do WH activities as our H-sec operations had dwindled to nothing since it came about. This hurt the corp wallet and we understood our differences. We negotiated sales and transfer of the WH setup and purchase of the Carrier we'd built inside earlier this year. Low and behold tonight I log in to this, my POS managing rights revoked along with all the usual WH peoples' and our ships gone- including uninvolved IFF members' ships who had not yet logged on to move their ships out. I applaud you, Lexandrius Megans and Chen Mubai for your ploy. You stripped your exiled member of even the implants in their heads as we likely do not have a scan ship available now and if we do decide to stay in this WH we'll always be harried by your alt spies sleeping inside to do it again later. You even betrayed the trust of your own corp by taking the low road after the splinter faction willingly took your offer of trust. To be truthful, I am not shocked this happened. My opinions of you and those who betrayed their own former members matters little and those who remain will continue on as this entire betrayal doesn't really matter. It will remain here as a warning to us and others but it will be forgotten in time, just as those who caused it will be. We will persevere. - Rakuras Exile
Amon Kreig	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:24:00 - [2] First.
Navtiqes Space Sheriff	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:33:00 - [3] Shotgun!
BeanBagKing The Keepers of Gold Gypsy Nation	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:34:00 - [4] Quote: You stripped your exiled member of even the implants in their heads as we likely do not have a scan ship available now I have managed to hunt down specific WH's before, it's possible I can get you out if the price is right. Sorry for your hard luck, but I gotta make a living. Send me an evemail if your interested.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:34:00 - [5] Cool story bro! Originally by: Hamshoe Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.
Maylin Li Caldari The Lonely Assassins	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:39:00 - [6] Forged Dominion has a history of terrible leadership...
Deathperado	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:42:00 - [7] No ****. I have been vindicated. We have a scanner though.
Ifly Uwalk Caldari Somali Coastguard Authority	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:44:00 - [8] Originally by: Rakuras ... It will remain here ... HYRDA WILL PROVAIL. - Rakuras Exile FYP Ifly
JamesWyh Interstellar Federal Forces Forged Dominion	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:50:00 - [9] And still our implants... But Lex our once CEO will rule this day. I will pay for his corpse to anyone who brings me one. I want suffering and tears and i want them soon. As one of the major stakeholders and investors i am most angered and vow to cause much pain to Lex (CEO) and Chen Mubai
Hrothgar Doran	Posted - 2009.12.08 09:57:00 - [10] I second james's stance!!!

hamferus Caldari Interstellar Federal Forces	Posted - 2009.12.08 12:01:00 - [11] hahahaahahahahahah Ill just take out popcorns because it will be funny to hear hows is this gong to finish in RL. Lex works with few ppl that are involved in this. Good that I have moved all my ships out of wh yesterday when I heard IFF spliting up :)
Vin'calis Interstellar Federal Forces Forged Dominion	Posted - 2009.12.08 12:29:00 - [12] Edited by: Vin''calis on 08/12/2009 12:30:54 Eh wut? Seems like you left about the right time there ham. Maybe I should log in and find out what the hell has happened... (Stealth edit: seems DT's been extended so I'll remain ignorant a bit longer)
Deadly Morph	Posted - 2009.12.08 15:22:00 - [13] I hate chen he killed my dreams of making 300 mill today :( how sad its all gone
Giles Corey	Posted - 2009.12.08 16:02:00 - [14] if your looking for a good wormhole corporation that wont **** on its members. were recruiting
Icas Otame	Posted - 2009.12.08 16:09:00 - [15] We're just mercs, doing what we do best. Thanks for all the cool stuff. Also, nice WH, we took it.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.12.08 16:12:00 - [16] You can contact members of Wormhole Rescue Service [W911] to get you out.
Awesome Possum Imperium Signal Corps	Posted - 2009.12.08 17:42:00 - [17] Originally by: JamesWyh And still our implants... But Lex our once CEO will rule this day. I will pay for his corpse to anyone who brings me one. I want suffering and tears and i want them soon. As one of the major stakeholders and investors i am most angered and vow to cause much pain to Lex (CEO) and Chen Mubai R-U-E dammit! not "rule", RUE!!!!! oh and in before Noir. ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
suzyQ101	Posted - 2009.12.08 17:44:00 - [18] give names what some r doing is making a list of ppl that rip off others and keep track of them ... seen 2 quit eve noone would take them in anymore babykitty
Awesome Possum Imperium Signal Corps	Posted - 2009.12.08 17:53:00 - [19] Originally by: suzyQ101 babykitty how're you and your sister doing ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Fitz VonHeise Eye Bee Em Stellar Defense Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.08 18:01:00 - [20] Originally by: Rakuras I applaud you, Lexandrius Megans and Chen Mubai for your ploy. For what is is worth... I added them to my Thieves of Eve List below: ♣ Lexandrius Megans Helper: Chen MubaiProof Services I Provide: Alliance Creation ● Caldari Standings ● Thieves Of EvE ● Titans ● My Links What Makes Me Tick

Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.12.08 18:01:00 - [21] Originally by: Fitz VonHeise Originally by: Rakuras I applaud you, Lexandrius Megans and Chen Mubai for your ploy. For what is is worth... Not much then Originally by: Tirus Sinobi Your response has set your intelligence barrier so low that anything you post from here on that breaches it, will have to be considered posted by somebody else.
Fitz VonHeise Eye Bee Em Stellar Defense Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.08 18:09:00 - [22] Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 08/12/2009 18:10:09 (I hate it when it looks like it doesn't post but does)
Chen Ling Chen Family Holdings	Posted - 2009.12.08 18:28:00 - [23] Originally by: Fitz VonHeise For what is is worth... I added them to my Thieves of Eve List below: ♣ Lexandrius Megans Helper: Chen MubaiProof I love it when people have "proof". lol.
War Kitten	Posted - 2009.12.08 19:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Chen Ling Originally by: Fitz VonHeise For what is is worth... I added them to my Thieves of Eve List below: ♣ Lexandrius Megans Helper: Chen MubaiProof I love it when people have "proof". lol. Confirming that "I read about it on the interwebs" is valid proof. "Here's your sign." - Bill Engvall
Kung'Fu Tzu	Posted - 2009.12.08 20:34:00 - [25] Originally by: War Kitten Originally by: Chen Ling Originally by: Fitz VonHeise For what is is worth... I added them to my Thieves of Eve List below: ♣ Lexandrius Megans Helper: Chen MubaiProof I love it when people have "proof". lol. Confirming that "I read about it on the interwebs" is valid proof. Of course, just like Wikipedia is a valid source for a research paper.
Hrothgar Doran	Posted - 2009.12.08 22:16:00 - [26] Btw, with more up to date information, and a revision of Lexandirus' motives, we think it's highly unlikely that he had an active role in this scam, but there is a possibility that he might have known it was going to happen, and let it happen anyway. I myself think he was just as surprised as all of us when we logged on this mourning and saw the POS gone, and a merc corp enjoying their spoils...
T0M CARBINE	Posted - 2009.12.08 23:07:00 - [27] Originally by: Hrothgar Doran Btw, with more up to date information, and a revision of Lexandirus' motives, we think it's highly unlikely that he had an active role in this scam, but there is a possibility that he might have known it was going to happen, and let it happen anyway. I myself think he was just as surprised as all of us when we logged on this mourning and saw the POS gone, and a merc corp enjoying their spoils... and the spoiles were plentiful!!1 Thanks for the tengu (+HMS+ Hydra)
Deathperado	Posted - 2009.12.08 23:16:00 - [28] Shame you got nothing from me Tom. Not a ship, not an item.
JamesWyh Interstellar Federal Forces Forged Dominion	Posted - 2009.12.08 23:24:00 - [29] List of Chen Mubai's Alts: Chen Ling Helen Sheng (more to come as the come!)
Chen Mubai	Posted - 2009.12.08 23:48:00 - [30] Edited by: Chen Mubai on 08/12/2009 23:50:42 I did it. I messed witch you guys... robbed / smashed 10-15b isk worth of internet spaceships. It's not a big deal. You'll bounce back. If you wanna hunt me in game, go for it. Good luck. What I can't get over though, is that a few of you have decided to start making real life threats to me in light of this. I mean, guys losing their jobs because you can't trust them? Or phoning my wife up "for a chat" about how I'm abusing my marriage, and leading this secret double life? I mean, dudes, a grip, get one? And you guys think that since I betrayed you in game, I'm a nasty piece of work? Wow. Internet spaceships is indeed serious business. Full alts list: Chen Mubai Chen Jet Chen Ling Helen Sheng - (Jer, I'll talk to you about this) Another Chen - an occasional alt I use to trawl the noob channels for recruits, but not active this week.

Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.12.08 23:54:00 - [31] -Whoa You ***ed over some people you know in real life? Oh wow dude, bad call! I realize it's just a game. . .but you betrayed FRIENDS* to get ahead in a GAME. . . thats world class douchery, you ask me.
Chen Mubai	Posted - 2009.12.09 00:06:00 - [32] Originally by: Michael Hoare -Whoa You ***ed over some people you know in real life? Oh wow dude, bad call! I realize it's just a game. . .but you betrayed FRIENDS* to get ahead in a GAME. . . thats world class douchery, you ask me. Oh heck no. There's a bit of background. The guys I actually screwed over, none of them were mates. The corp I was with came apart over the weekend, while I was away. Some of the guys were behaving like idiots, so I thought, "screw 'em." It's just that they had gathered, through being part of the same corp with some other decent guys, a little bit of real life stuff about me over the last few months - consistently used to make personal attacks (which actually contributed to a deepening feeling of animosity). So no, no friends were betrayed - just some folk who happen to play the same game.
Deathperado	Posted - 2009.12.09 00:14:00 - [33] Edited by: Deathperado on 09/12/2009 00:15:14 Lex isn't a friend Chen? Sounds about right for you. Ultimately, you have demonstrated that you are a truly immoral person, and now everyone can see that. Its not the fact that we lost our ships or an amount of ISK. Its that you screwed people, some people that had never done anything against you. All because you have a feud with me? How very sad indeed. If you were a seasoned scammer, then perhaps it would be a bit different, but this was something you chose to do in the heat of the moment.
Dianna Soreil Internal Anarchy	Posted - 2009.12.09 00:34:00 - [34] screwing ingame people you know IRL is kinda ****ish getting worked up over a game and taking it to RL threats is just scarily childish
Awesome Possum Imperium Signal Corps	Posted - 2009.12.09 01:23:00 - [35] Chen: If any RL threats were made via the Eve client, petition it. If any RL threats were made over the phone, inform your local police. Make sure to give the cops the absolute full details, mention if you have any chat logs of the harassment. If they call again, calmly state that you wish them to stop calling and that any further contact will be construed by you as harassment. Cops and lawyers eat that up. ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Jenny Twotone Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.12.09 03:05:00 - [36] I was wondering why Deathperado was trying to get in touch with me last week.
Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.12.09 10:32:00 - [37] Edited by: Lady Spank on 09/12/2009 10:32:33 (ic)I am going to kill everyone in this thread.(/ic) Edit: Forgot my roleplay tags. Originally by: Tirus Sinobi Your response has set your intelligence barrier so low that anything you post from here on that breaches it, will have to be considered posted by somebody else.
2Pac Shakurian	Posted - 2009.12.10 12:41:00 - [38] I'd like to let all of you know that the complete POS has been saved, including all faction stuff. This incident has only made the group in IFF that really mathered closer and stronger. Most of the isk lost was innocent IFF members who had nothing to do with our plan of leaving IFF and continue as a new corperation. The complete POS has been dismantled and rebuilt under the new corperation. Defense is stronger then ever! Multiple Billions of isk per week will be made! Cease the Day
w1ldt4ngent SWARTA	Posted - 2009.12.10 14:25:00 - [39] Originally by: 2Pac Shakurian I'd like to let all of you know that the complete POS has been saved, including all faction stuff. This incident has only made the group in IFF that really mathered closer and stronger. Most of the isk lost was innocent IFF members who had nothing to do with our plan of leaving IFF and continue as a new corperation. The complete POS has been dismantled and rebuilt under the new corperation. Defense is stronger then ever! Multiple Billions of isk per week will be made! Cease the Day I believe that's "seize the day", but we see your point. Good job turning lemons into lemonade. ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek!
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.12.10 16:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Chen Mubai Do you petition this sort of thing, or do you wait for it to get out of hand, and call the police? You do both. Pretty sad people gotta go psycho irl over internet spaceships...gotta wonder how much of a ****** they are irl to get that bent out of shape to harass people at home over pixels on a screen.

2Pac Shakurian	Posted - 2009.12.10 17:17:00 - [41] You do both. Pretty sad people gotta go psycho irl over internet spaceships...gotta wonder how much of a ****** they are irl to get that bent out of shape to harass people at home over pixels on a screen. It looks like you actually believe this Chen guy. He's just a fake man :) All lies! The only place he belongs is in the blocklist.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.12.10 18:30:00 - [42] Edited by: Barakkus on 10/12/2009 18:31:36 Oh, I've had people harass me over some crap in EQ2 that happened years ago, so if it is true, I know where he's coming from...I just changed my phone number and left it at that though. I still to this day don't know how they got my number since it's unpublished and I never used it or gave it to anyone. Of course it could have been an ex-g/f's husband too, call came from Florida (at least a cell exchange that was in Florida), which REALLY confuses me b/c that **** happened like 15 years prior to the harassment lol.
Malephar	Posted - 2009.12.10 18:49:00 - [43] Lol. Nice theft Chen! As for the people whinging about morality and making RL threats... don't be absurd. Its a game. A GAME. And you should probably cut down a bit, as it is evidently upsetting your precarious mental balance.
Deadly Morph	Posted - 2009.12.11 12:40:00 - [44] Drink beer
Sir Carnage	Posted - 2009.12.11 15:41:00 - [45] If they are actual, real life friends then this is kinda **ty, but if it's just a "hey, you live in bumegypt too? That's cool, we should play together," then who gives a ? Somebody that you may have run into on the street and found out you both played eve and then started playing together is not the same as the guy you grew up playing baseball, football, surfing, or, the more likely with this crowd, d&d with. Quote:** A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams
Fearr Dorchaa	Posted - 2009.12.11 17:19:00 - [46] Confirming im loving the corp theft and subsequesnt tears of the whiney betrayed :D rl threats only make it better tbh
Chen Mubai	Posted - 2009.12.12 01:44:00 - [47] Originally by: Fearr Dorchaa Confirming im loving the corp theft and subsequesnt tears of the whiney betrayed :D rl threats only make it better tbh I've been mulling over how to deal with the this, and after petitioning the worst rl-threat offenders, and talking to the local constabulary (re. what to do if one of these dweebs does step over the line), I've decided on the best course of action. It is a suitably in game response. The guys I screwed over have all decamped to a corp called "Probe Patrol". They have at least one POS in J100246, but prolly 2. Given the delightful grief my apparently minor actions caused, I am offering a 1b isk reward to the next person who infiltrates this corp, and pulls off a similar gig to illicit something like the crazy response I got. I don't know if this is the sort of griefing any goons are interested in? Le Chen P.S. I'm looking for a new corp myself now. Anyone want me?
Marchocias Silent Ninja's	Posted - 2009.12.12 10:56:00 - [48] Originally by: Chen Mubai I've been mulling over how to deal with the this, and after petitioning the worst rl-threat offenders, and talking to the local constabulary (re. what to do if one of these dweebs does step over the line), I've decided on the best course of action. It is a suitably in game response. The guys I screwed over have all decamped to a corp called "Probe Patrol". They have at least one POS in J100246, but prolly 2. Given the delightful grief my apparently minor actions caused, I am offering a 1b isk reward to the next person who infiltrates this corp, and pulls off a similar gig to illicit something like the crazy response I got. I don't know if this is the sort of griefing any goons are interested in? I appreciate this might be a long term mission, so I'll try to bump this from time to time - just to spice up your life. Le Chen P.S. I'm looking for a new corp myself now. Anyone want me? Are the Guiding Hand Social Club still in operation? This sounds like exactly their cup of tea. ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it).
Lexandrius Megens	Posted - 2009.12.17 23:20:00 - [49] Edited by: Lexandrius Megens on 17/12/2009 23:20:13 Originally by: Rakuras I applaud you, Lexandrius Megans and Chen Mubai for your ploy. You stripped your exiled member of even the implants in their heads as we likely do not have a scan ship available now and if we do decide to stay in this WH we'll always be harried by your alt spies sleeping inside to do it again later. You even betrayed the trust of your own corp by taking the low road after the splinter faction willingly took your offer of trust. - Rakuras Exile Get your facts right Rakuras, before you call me a corp thief. Read Chen's post on page 1, fail whiner. Signed, Lexandrius --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
w1ldt4ngent SWARTA	Posted - 2009.12.18 08:22:00 - [50] Originally by: Marchocias Are the Guiding Hand Social Club still in operation? This sounds like exactly their cup of tea. I spotted Istvaan spewing some of the worst smacktalk in Jita local I've ever seen the other night. They've really fallen from grace... ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek!



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