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Ashen Angel
Minmatar
Shirestorm Industry
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:01:00 -
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Trying to pick which cov ops frigate to set up, mostly for high sec scouting/exploration [likely fit out a cruiser/battlecruiser or combat frigate to clear sites]
trying to figure out which ones seem to work best.
Highs will be expanded sister's probel launcher and cov ops cloak for sure. Looking at the mids and lows to be swappable at times to function as needed for the role I'm doing.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:05:00 -
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check out the slot layout on all 4 and pick that way.
likly winners are going to be the buzzard and helios.
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BuckStrider
Wreckless Abandon
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:06:00 -
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It really doesn't matter all that much, any of them work just fine.
It's not like your going to tank it out or tackle anyone with it.
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Khalish Mo'Tashi
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:59:00 -
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Cheetah all the way. Solid slot layout, and the fastest of the four. Fit it right, and this can be one slippery bugger.
Grease is the word. 
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Erim Solfara
Amarr
House of Solfara
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:05:00 -
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The Anathema is kinda sexy, just my 2p
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Kristanna Broomstyck
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:39:00 -
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If you only want to use it for scanning plexes or people, pick whatever you can fly
and what your skills are. For using it to go deep into enemy territory i would
suggest in chossing a heetah.
As above poster said, it is pretty slippery, you can grease it even further with
halos and booster if needed (munch munch). 
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Kilhu Emmek
Minmatar
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Khalish Mo'Tashi
Cheetah all the way. Solid slot layout, and the fastest of the four. Fit it right, and this can be one slippery bugger.
Speed kills. It's almost impossible to be caught in a cheetah, even in a bubble camp.
Decent cargo, too. You can fit a salvager and a tractor and loot gate kills in 0.0 when no one else is around.
Cheetah wins.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:36:00 -
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I used to fly the Helios, but the Anathema wins for sure these days.
-Liang
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2009.12.11 17:27:00 -
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I've only ever flown the anathema. Cov Ops IV is required to fit anything else with the cov ops cloak, but you want Cov Ops at IV anyway for the scanning bonus.
From my understanding, the helios is lacking a high slot which really gimps it out. Lots of people like the cheetah, and as a side bonus you get access to the best stealth bomber at the same time. |
Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.11 17:32:00 -
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Anathema
buzzard/cheetah
helios
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Aralieus
Amarr
Traumark Logistics
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Posted - 2009.12.11 17:35:00 -
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Anathema to find the sites/Vengeance(what I use) or Retribution to clear the sites works pretty smoothly. |
Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.12.11 17:36:00 -
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IMHO the Anathema is the best because it's the only one with enough capacitor to make the long warps (over 100AU). It's also got a good enough tank to survive a smartbomb blast or two.
Cheetah is slightly more quick and agile, so it may be the best one for escaping bubble camps in 0.0.
Helios has a drone bay so its the best for PVP. Yes, people really do do this, and they get kills, mostly other covert ops.
Buzzard, well, it's the best looking.
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Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2009.12.11 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: BuckStrider
It really doesn't matter all that much, any of them work just fine.
It's not like your going to tank it out or tackle anyone with it.
I pointed a golem with my buzzard once.
(okay I really gave the warp in, got a hic in there and put a point on to ninja on the mail, couldn't let a broadsword get a solo golem kill)
also useful for probing out logoffski pods. although usually just give the warp ins as I would like to keep my sec above -2.
You're posting again!? Has it really been 5 mins?
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.11 17:49:00 -
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Reason why to me the anathema is the best is because it can warp long and often AND it can fit a warp disruptor+ 2 best named RSD with scan res script. Meaning you can point a BS at a safe or belt and wait for the fleet to jump in and warp to you, in all safety.
Both the buzzard and cheetah suffer from "warpitis", in that they can't really keep warping the whole time, something a scout has to do a lot. You could solve that by fitting cap batteries but that would take away from the RSD's.
Ideally, this is what you want from a covops;
[Anathema, New Setup 1]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Scan Resolution Dampening
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Scan Resolution Dampening
Cynosural Field Generator I /OFFLINE
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Combat Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.11 17:57:00 -
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At least put a DC on that thing if you want to tackle in it.
I like the Helios and Cheetah for better cpu/pg, Helios for overall, cheetah beats it on speed/agility though.
Helios with dual webs and scram is a n1 tackler :D
Having said that I use an Anathema for exploration.
It really depends on your intentions.
Originally by: Tirus Sinobi
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.11 18:31:00 -
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Why should I need a DCU if I won't get targeted? It's going to take a BS WAY longer to target me than for the fleet to jump and warp. Trying to tackle anything smaller would be stupid, why risk your fleet's eyes and ears, needed to find targets and to stay alive, for a small kill.
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Roos Stormshadow
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Posted - 2009.12.12 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
I used to fly the Helios, but the Anathema wins for sure these days.
-Liang
I would really appreciate it if you would elaborate on this and post fittings for each. I'm almost able to train covops and need to decide which race to get frig V in. Anathema or Helios are my top choices, and I was leaning towards Helios because I can use T2 drones and hybrids. So I was leaning towards Gal T2 frigs in general, since I know the ranis is good and I've heard good things about the Enyo.
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2009.12.12 14:27:00 -
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Anathema because it looks like the batplane.
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Space Scooterman
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Posted - 2009.12.12 18:44:00 -
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Anathema.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Roos Stormshadow
Originally by: Liang Nuren
I used to fly the Helios, but the Anathema wins for sure these days.
-Liang
I would really appreciate it if you would elaborate on this and post fittings for each. I'm almost able to train covops and need to decide which race to get frig V in. Anathema or Helios are my top choices, and I was leaning towards Helios because I can use T2 drones and hybrids. So I was leaning towards Gal T2 frigs in general, since I know the ranis is good and I've heard good things about the Enyo.
You really cant go wrong with the helios, and yes tII gall frigs are awesome.... esp the Ishkur and Taranis.
As for the helios.... It's easier to fit out, has a better slot layout and has (iirc) second best speed agility to the Cheetah.
Originally by: Tirus Sinobi
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:57:00 -
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I got buzzard, but I kinda regret it, for what I use it for any cov ops would do, but the minmatar one would have given me the Hound stealth bomber as well :)
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Roos Stormshadow
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Posted - 2009.12.14 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Roos Stormshadow
Originally by: Liang Nuren
I used to fly the Helios, but the Anathema wins for sure these days.
-Liang
I would really appreciate it if you would elaborate on this and post fittings for each. I'm almost able to train covops and need to decide which race to get frig V in. Anathema or Helios are my top choices, and I was leaning towards Helios because I can use T2 drones and hybrids. So I was leaning towards Gal T2 frigs in general, since I know the ranis is good and I've heard good things about the Enyo.
You really cant go wrong with the helios, and yes tII gall frigs are awesome.... esp the Ishkur and Taranis.
As for the helios.... It's easier to fit out, has a better slot layout and has (iirc) second best speed agility to the Cheetah.
The main drawback I see to the Helios is that it can't fit a cloak, cyno, and probe launcher all at once :/ Is that not a big deal?
The Ishkur and Taranis look awesome. How is the Nemesis compared to the Hound?
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Zhilia Mann
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Posted - 2009.12.14 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Roos Stormshadow
Originally by: Liang Nuren
I used to fly the Helios, but the Anathema wins for sure these days.
-Liang
I would really appreciate it if you would elaborate on this and post fittings for each. I'm almost able to train covops and need to decide which race to get frig V in. Anathema or Helios are my top choices, and I was leaning towards Helios because I can use T2 drones and hybrids. So I was leaning towards Gal T2 frigs in general, since I know the ranis is good and I've heard good things about the Enyo.
Long story short: for most applications all CovOps do just about the same thing. The Helios used to look ducking awesome. Now it looks like your kindergartner slapped some clay together.
The lack of a third high is just a simple kick in the teeth.
Just go for an Anathema. It's certainly what I'm doing once I get my lazy ass in to gear. (You'd think I could train Amarr frig 5 seeing as how I already have Amarr cruiser 5; this is not actually the case.)
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Roos Stormshadow
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Posted - 2009.12.14 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zhilia Mann
Originally by: Roos Stormshadow
Originally by: Liang Nuren
I used to fly the Helios, but the Anathema wins for sure these days.
-Liang
I would really appreciate it if you would elaborate on this and post fittings for each. I'm almost able to train covops and need to decide which race to get frig V in. Anathema or Helios are my top choices, and I was leaning towards Helios because I can use T2 drones and hybrids. So I was leaning towards Gal T2 frigs in general, since I know the ranis is good and I've heard good things about the Enyo.
Long story short: for most applications all CovOps do just about the same thing. The Helios used to look ducking awesome. Now it looks like your kindergartner slapped some clay together.
The lack of a third high is just a simple kick in the teeth.
Just go for an Anathema. It's certainly what I'm doing once I get my lazy ass in to gear. (You'd think I could train Amarr frig 5 seeing as how I already have Amarr cruiser 5; this is not actually the case.)
I think for now I might just go the Gal route. The Ishkur and Taranis are too compelling.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.14 18:54:00 -
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A covops should:
- Have 3 high slots
- Not look like ****
- Be reasonably fast for aligning warpins
- Have enough mids for some ewar
I can't tell you what's on my Anathema right now (teehee), but My Helios Was Fit With The Following:
Cloak, Probe
3 Phased Muon, Sensor Booster, Eutectic Cap Recharger
2 Overdrives Beta CPR
2 Inverted Signal Amp
At least, IIRC. My current Helios is fit with scanning rigs and ... .... I really have no idea. It looks like ****.
-Liang
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Roos Stormshadow
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Posted - 2009.12.14 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
A covops should:
- Have 3 high slots
- Not look like ****
- Be reasonably fast for aligning warpins
- Have enough mids for some ewar
I can't tell you what's on my Anathema right now (teehee), but My Helios Was Fit With The Following:
Cloak, Probe
3 Phased Muon, Sensor Booster, Eutectic Cap Recharger
2 Overdrives Beta CPR
2 Inverted Signal Amp
At least, IIRC. My current Helios is fit with scanning rigs and ... .... I really have no idea. It looks like ****.
-Liang
You're killing me. How can I go against the great Liang? Now I'm all conflicted.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.14 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Roos Stormshadow
You're killing me. How can I go against the great Liang? Now I'm all conflicted.
TBH I could probably get over the 3 high slot problem if it didn't look so ****ing bad. I don't light covops cynos *all* the time afterall. I mean, the old Helios was quite possibly the sexiest looking ship in game! It just looks *SO BAD* now, and the Anathema looks *SO AWESOME* now...
And yes, looks count in a covops ;-)
-Liang
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Drazin DawnTreader
Cutthroat Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.14 22:02:00 -
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lol Liang.
Looks count for everything.
I actually bought an Anathema just cuz it looks good, even though I never scanned anything before nor had the skills to do it if I wanted to. Named it "Plated Pachyderm" cuz it looks like the head of a Elephant.
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2009.12.15 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Davina Braben
Anathema because it looks like the batplane.
TBH, I trained amarr frig I-V just because of this.
Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Damien Smith
Krazny Oktyabr Revolyutsiya
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Posted - 2009.12.15 13:18:00 -
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I used to fly the helios but then trained amarr frig V just to get a ship that wasn't butt ugly. Bring back the old helios model ccp!
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