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Lex Alandar
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.11 14:56:00 -
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Well, last night, some friends and I decided to travel a ways to do an escalation (Angel Material Acquisition 2). The plex was relatively uneventful, but at the end, when the overseer popped, we were pretty pumped.
In the wreck lay the standard overseers effects, a c-type SBA, and....a CYNABAL. I know what you're thinking...."ships don't drop in wrecks". Well this was no blueprint, it was the actual ship itself!
Our initial excitement wore off as we tried to figure out how we were going to get this ship home. The first plan was to get one of our pilots to switch out of his raven and hop into the (UNPACKAGED!!!) ship. However, this plan fell short when we realised there was no way to actually get into the ship, or to get the ship into space for boarding.
Our next plan was to bring in a carrier. Oh well, small price to pay to scoop a 250million isk ship right? Obviously, a cyno field would not work inside the plex, but after waiting half an hour or so for it to de-spawn, we were getting anxious so we tried anyway "that module cannot be activate here as natural phenomena are disrupting its operation".
Ok, so maybe, we reason, the carrier will be able to make it through the gate. It would take quite awhile to slowboat through the first room, but still, small price to pay right? Well, also predictably, the gate does not support capital ships of any kind.
At this point we were pretty resigned...our nice shiny haul just dropped from 115m apiece to maybe 30m each. I kept warping back to the wreck, hoping the plex would for some reason despawn, but to no avail. The wreck ran out of time, and died. All I ever got to do with this Cynabal was move it from place to place within it's little box (the overseer's wreck).
So, I guess the whole point of my post, is this multi-pronged question, which I've also put into petition form, awaiting a response:
How, without being able to bring in a ship capable of storing this unpackaged drop, without being able to launch the ship, or board it, could one POSSIBLY bring this loot home??
I should add that all destructible structures in the escalation were destroyed, and it only despawned after downtime this morning.
Still no response from petition, and I am really not hopeful. I've never heard of anyone being reimbursed for not being able to scoop a loot drop.
For the doubters, here are some screenshots (yes, this really DID happen, a SHIP dropping as loot)
I took many other screenshots, but here's two:
After finishing the escalation and trying everything, other loot safely stored: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/manifesto909/20091211054039.jpg
Trying to somehow board this ship after ejecting: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/manifesto909/20091211054142.jpg
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holy bjesus
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Posted - 2009.12.11 15:15:00 -
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I'd Petition it. Sounds like a glitch to me
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Babel
Boom and Bust Economics Ltd. Naraka.
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Posted - 2009.12.11 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: holy bjesus I'd Petition it. Sounds like a glitch to me
Yep - even better = bug report it too ... looks like database error in spawn tables, ie. the word 'Blueprint' was missed :) .
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Lex Alandar
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.11 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lex Alandar on 11/12/2009 15:35:30 Petition and bug report are both submitted.
Eager to hear a GM response on this one.
Still holding onto some longshot hope of a cynabal being spawned in my home hangar 
edit: scratch that....bug reporting seems...bugged =S damn planck bubble stabilizers...
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.12.11 15:42:00 -
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A Orca probably could have gotten inside the plex through the gates.  --------
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Lex Alandar
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.11 16:09:00 -
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thought I would put this little addendum in, provide you readers with extra lols.
To add insult to injury, while flying back from the plex, my terrible record with cov ops (you get the point) caught up with me. So now I'm out 60m from (honourably) paying out my friends' shares.
Involved parties:
Name: Angel Tribunus / Archangels (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 1830
Destroyed items:
Power Diagnostic System II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Expanded Probe Launcher I Overdrive Injector System II Gist C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier (Cargo) 19th Tier Overseer's Personal Effects (Cargo) Core Scanner Probe I (Cargo) Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I, Qty: 2
Worst eve experience ever XD
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Losmandy
Amarr Off World Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.12.11 17:48:00 -
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Nice thread, made me smile a tad. Not many manage to do that on these forums. Thanks for sharing your woe's, hope you get that bp copy soon
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Cassius Rex
Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.11 19:42:00 -
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Gah, I'm at work and I was wondering if you ever got that thing out Lex. GAHHHHH.
I admit I didn't believe you for a second when you told me what was in the wreck, hell i didn't believe it for a while after I saw the thing for myself. F me but I'm going to plex my butt off when I get home and try to score a Macharial-in-a-can or something :) .
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MIRKINZ
Caldari DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.11 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cassius Rex Gah, I'm at work and I was wondering if you ever got that thing out Lex. GAHHHHH.
I admit I didn't believe you for a second when you told me what was in the wreck, hell i didn't believe it for a while after I saw the thing for myself. F me but I'm going to plex my butt off when I get home and try to score a Macharial-in-a-can or something :) .
Cass you just dont want to have your cynabal out classed by Lex!!
But i hope he gets a BPC, then you can show cass wassup! [URL=http://img37.imageshack.us/i/mirkinz.jpg/][/URL] |

Loxatl Deathsquad
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Posted - 2009.12.12 05:05:00 -
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This is an easy fix. Ship should not have spawned in wreck, so its removed and you get nothing other than the c-type SBA.
Actually you did get nothing other than the c-type SBA... so all is good.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.12 07:35:00 -
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Almost certainly the the escalation was one of those that were changed with Dominion and the Dev has put a cinabal ID number instead of a cinabal blueprint ID number in the loot tables.
So a bug. I hope the GM will spawn a cinabal blueprint for you as that was (99% probability I would say) the loot you should have found.
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Lex Alandar
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.13 15:27:00 -
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still waiting on a gm response from this one...trying to be patient.
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Duke Caliostro
Caldari Gipron Space Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.14 21:52:00 -
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Had the same bug yesterday. http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3813/cynabal.jpg Waiting answer for my petition.
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CCP Dropbear

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Posted - 2009.12.14 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Dropbear on 14/12/2009 23:04:16
Originally by: Venkul Mul Almost certainly the the escalation was one of those that were changed with Dominion and the Dev has put a cinabal ID number instead of a cinabal blueprint ID number in the loot tables.
So a bug. I hope the GM will spawn a cinabal blueprint for you as that was (99% probability I would say) the loot you should have found.
Didn't want to speak up on this until I had my facts straight and yes, that is what happened. We've made a fix for this internally already (should go out next patch).
In the meantime, explain to the GM handling your petition that you were supposed to get a BPC, and that should get you sorted. You can link back to this thread in the petition too, as that might help to prove the fault lies purely at our end.
Sorry about the inconvenience (and thanks for the laughs ).
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Lex Alandar
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.15 02:42:00 -
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alright, awesome response thanks a lot.
Still no reply on my petition, but I will add in a link and the comment.
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Duke Caliostro
Caldari Gipron Space Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.16 17:30:00 -
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Lex Alandar, do you recieve your BPC? Because I still do not...
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Kibbler
Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.12.16 18:21:00 -
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Between me and my brother, we've had to leave 3 Cynabals to rot in this escalation.
Is it too late to do this retroactively? The last one I got was on the 14th... would this be something that could be tracked in the logs?
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CCP Dropbear

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Posted - 2009.12.16 20:10:00 -
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I'm told it can't be tracked through the logs, meaning you won't be able to petition for a BPC instead. Apologies guys, the fix has already been made, it just needs to catch the next ride on the patch train.
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Duke Caliostro
Caldari Gipron Space Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.16 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: Duke Caliostro on 16/12/2009 20:55:33
Originally by: CCP Dropbear I'm told it can't be tracked through the logs, meaning you won't be able to petition for a BPC instead. Apologies guys, the fix has already been made, it just needs to catch the next ride on the patch train.
I tried to salvage wreck with ship in and it poped massage that items in it had volume 101000 m3 and it couldn't store in spawn container. Is that possible to track this message through the logs and can this be proof?
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Astal Atlar
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:09:00 -
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first you should be plexing nc righ now mate we are at war :)
on serious note,yeah most plexes are **** bugged and nerfed,so not worth,probably a screenshot can help you work it out with gm as they are tentative with this things.But you already got your answer anyway from ccp.
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Flying ZombieJesus
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:53:00 -
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I was going to add that if you did get a BPC spawned, it really should go to the guy that popped your covops ;)
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CCP Dropbear

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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Caliostro
Originally by: CCP Dropbear I'm told it can't be tracked through the logs, meaning you won't be able to petition for a BPC instead. Apologies guys, the fix has already been made, it just needs to catch the next ride on the patch train.
I tried to salvage wreck with ship in and it poped massage that items in it has volume 101000 m3 and it couldn't store in spawn container. Is that possible to track this message through the logs and can this be proof?
If that message is logged and unique to this situation, that could help. Include that information in your petition. 
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Earrl Grey
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Posted - 2010.01.30 23:17:00 -
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There have been rumors that this plex was dropping Cynabal BPO's not BPC's for a time, can anyone confirm/deny this?
There has been a strange influx of Cynabals onto contracts in the past week or so, and prices are slowly coming down on them.
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Gallente Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.01.30 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Earrl Grey There have been rumors that this plex was dropping Cynabal BPO's not BPC's for a time, can anyone confirm/deny this?
There has been a strange influx of Cynabals onto contracts in the past week or so, and prices are slowly coming down on them.
CCP often mess things up with their stealty adjustments. IE Centus 10/10 escalation: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1259771
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Kva Plexcha
Gallente Doing You Right
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Posted - 2010.01.31 07:56:00 -
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First the same thing also happened to me. The player with me took screenshots and was supposed to have petitioned this. Are screenshots enough to recieve a replacement BPC?
Second, certain plexes now have a larger chance of faction bpcs dropping. I personally have recieved 2 Gila BPC's, 2 Rattlesnake BPC's, a Cynabal BPC, and the glitched Cynabal, after not recieving any during the entire Apoc patch. With the increased drop rates, it stands to reason the price will go down. The first Rattlesnake BPC sold fairly quickly for 700 mil. The second which is still in my hold shows Contracts for 600 mil on average.
I believe the increased drop rates are to encourage players to use the faction ships, as they were given considerable buff in Dominion.
To the best of my knowledge anyways.
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syphurous
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.01.31 08:14:00 -
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Single run Cynabal and Gila BPC's are the mid arc reward during the new lvl3 pirate arcs for Angels and Guristas. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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Governor Blagojevich
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Posted - 2010.02.02 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Earrl Grey There have been rumors that this plex was dropping Cynabal BPO's not BPC's for a time, can anyone confirm/deny this?
There has been a strange influx of Cynabals onto contracts in the past week or so, and prices are slowly coming down on them.
Confirmed. For 2 days I had an item worth billions upon billions. But I really didn't want to be banned for an exploit, So I made a days worth of production and reported it. Sorry to ruin the gravy train.
As of last downtime, bpo's are removed. But we get to keep the ships.
Look for cynobals to go back up in price.
Guess I'm more honest than my name sake, damnit.
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Earrl Grey
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Posted - 2010.02.03 02:24:00 -
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Further Proof:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1262111
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.02.03 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Earrl Grey Further Proof:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1262111
Who the **** would broadcast that a faction BPO had dropped?!??!
You know that is a mistake that CCP would correct as soon as they realized it.
Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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King Rothgar
Imperial Slave Hunter Society
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Posted - 2010.02.03 03:50:00 -
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Confirming the bpo dropped briefly. I was fortunate enough to acquire one and after building 10 of them I tried to sell it. Sadly I got petitioned and it didn't work but even so, I got a bpc in it's place so in total I made 11 of the things. Certainly a jackpot in exploration. I also picked up some random gist C type stuff, it's value was not insignificant either.
CCP's reaction was appropriate, it wasn't an exploit after all. We just put an item we acquired through normal game mechanics to use. Sure it was epically overpowered and needed a good nerf, but was fun while it lasted. Also made cynabals more reasonably priced, if only temporarily. -----------------------------------------------------
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