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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 07:04:00 -
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When are you going to put your money where your mouth is CVA and Pie Inc?
I recieved this distress transmition today after being planetside for some time. Shall I forward them on to you CVA or Pie inc? or will you make excuses again as to why No.Mercy is allowed to again perpetrate acts of piracy and griefing on your own people who are completely innocent?
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Moment of your time From: Drythar Starthra Sent: 2009.12.12 06:57 To: BloodSoaked Goddess,
No.Mercy just wardecced the corp I'm in for no reason. Random wardeccing..I did some research on who would be a good person to ask for pvp advice. I know your not Caldari..but have any advice. His corp outnumbes our pretty new corp 2 to 1..and half of our people are carebears or new.
Thanks for lookin and any quick advice..
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I await your replies with anticipation and cynisism....no doubt the excuses will be spectacular.....
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lucifers widow
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.12.12 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
I did some research on who would be a good person to ask for pvp advice.
So..... He did some research and came up with you ?
LOL, oh dear try to make up something more pausable.
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Ralnik
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.12.12 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: lucifers widow
Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
I did some research on who would be a good person to ask for pvp advice.
So..... He did some research and came up with you ?
LOL, oh dear try to make up something more pausable.
http://www.eve-search.com/search/No.Mercy
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: lucifers widow
Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
I did some research on who would be a good person to ask for pvp advice.
So..... He did some research and came up with you ?
LOL, oh dear try to make up something more pausable.
Considering there are no pvp records of you whatsoever, isnt it ironic that someone of your calibre regarding pvp would then turn around and try and judge my experience??
I am also more than happy to pass the guy on to someone else to deal with and a simple click of the concord war dec records might be in order for you as a non believer. Not having any records in war yourself, do you know where that can be accessed or do you need directions?
Also..... "Plausible" :)
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Ol'summer bedLinen
Amarr The Lost Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.12 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ol''summer bedLinen on 12/12/2009 10:22:54 alt corp got war dec? oh noes?
---- "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |
Draxus Widowmaker
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Posted - 2009.12.12 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Draxus Widowmaker on 12/12/2009 10:42:23 Edited
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.12 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ol'summer bedLinen
Alt SCAM corp gets war decced, and of all people, the CEO asked for your advise? Oh noes? TFS a pirate alliance + scam corp SWARTA. I fail to see the connection dear sir! /s
You really shouldn't bother "defending" this kind of thing any more it'll only get embarrassing for you when the next wave of evidence arrives. Hell, we have Merdaneth of PIE openly caught red-handed blowing up neutrals to cover-up for No.Mercy ransoming actions now. Its all getting too easy.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
When are you going to put your money where your mouth is CVA and Pie Inc?
I recieved this distress transmition today after being planetside for some time. Shall I forward them on to you CVA or Pie inc? or will you make excuses again as to why No.Mercy is allowed to again perpetrate acts of piracy and griefing on your own people who are completely innocent?
As you are no doubt already aware, PIE Inc adjusted its stance towards No.Mercy following earlier allegations of malpractice.
Since you are clearly so outraged by what you consider to be an act of piracy, perhaps you will explain to us exactly what you're doing to prevent No.Mercy's activities?
Or are you just using this as an excuse to try to embarrass the CVA and PIE?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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lucifers widow
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.12.12 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess [Considering there are no pvp records of you whatsoever, isnt it ironic that someone of your calibre regarding pvp would then turn around and try and judge my experience??
I am also more than happy to pass the guy on to someone else to deal with and a simple click of the concord war dec records might be in order for you as a non believer. Not having any records in war yourself, do you know where that can be accessed or do you need directions?
Also..... "Plausible" :)
Wasn't talking of my pvp records, but was making a point about WHY he went to you and not someone like Jade or a Amarr or Minmatar loyalist ceo.
Perhaps they are asking you for help to war dec the pirates back, so, are you ?
Also...... "isn't" :)
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Ol'summer bedLinen
Alt SCAM corp gets war decced, and of all people, the CEO asked for your advise? Oh noes? TFS a pirate alliance + scam corp SWARTA. I fail to see the connection dear sir! /s
You really shouldn't bother "defending" this kind of thing any more it'll only get embarrassing for you when the next wave of evidence arrives. Hell, we have Merdaneth of PIE openly caught red-handed blowing up neutrals to cover-up for No.Mercy ransoming actions now. Its all getting too easy.
I am assuming you refer to his admission to destroying a vessel of the pilot "Sej Jamira"? Not quite sure why you could or even would regard that as a cover up of anything. That cretin has been present in the theatre for as long as I can remember and her presence always seem to precede SF's arrival on scene. Furthermore, she has been witnessed using combat probes with no one other than Amarrian loyalist patrols in immediate vicinity but only when SF had a strike group on stand-by .. pray tell how else you would interpret such evidence?
As for the original "claim". I too find it rather odd that a "random" victim should seek out a known pirate organization for assistance .. seems a little too convenient. Unless there is some actual evidence presented any further discussion is pointless, but the whole thing is off to a bad start considering it is opened by making a private communique public.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.12 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Veshta Yoshida I am assuming you refer to his admission to destroying a vessel of the pilot "Sej Jamira"?
Of course. Since said pilot has publicly stated her intent to track and follow a No.Mercy ransoming fleet and Merdaneth of PIE destroyed her for what now seems the obvious reason of helping to cover up these actions against industrial neutrals - its pretty open and shut case.
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Of course. Since said pilot has publicly stated her intent to track and follow a No.Mercy ransoming fleet and Merdaneth of PIE destroyed her for what now seems the obvious reason of helping to cover up these actions against industrial neutrals - its pretty open and shut case.
Interesting how such a statement appears just when one of your slander campaigns is losing momentum, is it not?
Even if that statement is "correct" it has little impact on anything given the source. You are basing your claim of a cover up on "impressions" experienced by a known SF collaborator while her ship disintegrated two jumps from her purported "targets". Covert pilots are renowned for feeling persecuted whenever they are revealed or destroyed, there are a disproportionately high number of reported cases of paranoia among covert pilots .. my guess is that it is a side effect of prolonged exposure to cloak fields.
Either way, I do not see what the execution of an enemy of the Empire has to do with the matter at hand.
But then facts are never of much use in these cases that you open and shut at will, cases where evidence can appear and disappear seemingly at random.
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Hell, we have Merdaneth of PIE openly caught red-handed blowing up neutrals to cover-up for No.Mercy ransoming actions now. Its all getting too easy.
Sej Jamira has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be in the employ of Star Fraction.
Any reference by you to pilot Jamira as a neutral is a lie. You know pilot Jamira is not a neutral and never was a neutral during the failed Star Fraction Operation Castrato.
I advise you to look up 'red-handed' and 'cover-up' in the dictionairy. You seem to be misunderstanding their definitions. ____
The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.12 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth Any reference by you to pilot Jamira as a neutral is a lie. You know pilot Jamira is not a neutral and never was a neutral during the failed Star Fraction Operation Castrato.
The accusing of "lying" from your deceitful lips is ridiculous. But then you still haven't explained your NBSI act to cover up No.Mercy's piracy and ransoming of neutrals.
No.Mercy fleet was heading out to attack a neutral POS. You destroyed a neutral pilot shadowing that fleet.
One can safely assume you were motivated by a desire to cover-up the shady operations of an ally.
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Bashiri
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.12.12 18:42:00 -
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I feel the love once again hi jade.
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Garst Tyrell
Amarr No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.12.12 18:54:00 -
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no ones cares, stop making threads "I long for death, not because I seek peace, but because I seek the war eternal" |
Mielono
Caldari SWARTA
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Posted - 2009.12.12 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ol'summer bedLinen Edited by: Ol''summer bedLinen on 12/12/2009 10:39:57
Alt SCAM corp gets war decced, and of all people, the CEO asked for your advise? Oh noes?
TFS a pirate alliance + scam corp SWARTA. I fail to see the connection dear sir! /s
As far as I know Drythar is still a trial member, but he gets to prove himself in the next few days. Yes, when we were beginning we were scammed theres a huge mega thread about it, it has nothing to do with our operations, We honestly should not be talking about this until our CEO makes a stance on things since the general rule is keep everything in house till we figure out a unified stance.
While I would like to ask some questions about the why of the wardec theres really no point, we are just planning to have as much fun with it as we can. It actually caught me by suprise I am one of the more vocal and active members here on Galnet so when someone asked me who No.Mercy was I actually felt good about even knowing anything about them.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 12/12/2009 20:52:18
I wouldn't worry to much about the criticisms of Jade Constantine-Neferis. Her obsessional fixation on PIE has led to yet another fantastic tale of fiction. The latest failure of an anarchist campaign has taken a toll. I have to believe the sting of ANOTHER FAILURE by the anarchists has pierced her heart like a dagger. Only by refocusing her attention and creating wild conspiracy theories can she stem the bleeding.
I recommend you seek psychological help for your PIE obsession. It clearly isn't healthy for you.
Archbishop
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 22:32:00 -
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Would someone like to explain to me why you keep calling The Final Stand pirates when we are all sanctioned by concord to fly anywhere in any space in eve without being targeted unless we are involved in a concord sanctioned war dec....?
We are Mercenaries. We get paid to do a job and we move on. The fact that you continue to try and drag us down to your level shows how much impact we have truely had on your pathetic sycophantile lives.
It is not hard to find our data records regarding this and because we have been in a concord sanctioned war dec against No.Mercy and part of many threads regarding this....it is not hard to understand why someone would contact us.
Our record against individual Corporations and Alliances during our Mercenary contracts remains untarnished and we have not lost a contract or campaign yet. I think that makes us well and truely capable of providing pvp advice to anyone that decides to ask for it. Having stemmed from Mercenary Coalition anyway, our pilots and CEO actually have far more experience and a far better record for it than anyone else posting here in Galnet.
The Final Stand is five years old and has a record that goes back 5 years for Merc work and before that when its founders and current CEO were in MC and leading field comanders and Directors.
I think I have made my point very clear in this, nothing beats experience... :)
_-.~Nemo Me Impune Lacessit~.-_ |
Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.12.12 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Jakiin on 12/12/2009 22:49:18
Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Would someone like to explain to me why you keep calling The Final Stand pirates
Originally by: You The Final Stand has been raiding Providence in the past week and we will not deny this.
Originally by: You We have proclaimed our allegiance to Ushra Khan and set standings accordingly.
Though according to CONCORD law you may not be pirates, according to most capsuleers raiding an area of space which is controlled by NBSI entities without provocation is piracy, and according to some (Though not myself) Ushra'Khan and by extension their allies are pirates.
That's why you're being called pirates. The fact that you also happen to be mercenaries does not preclude you from the term. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Would someone like to explain to me why you keep calling The Final Stand pirates when we are all sanctioned by concord to fly anywhere in any space in eve without being targeted unless we are involved in a concord sanctioned war dec....?
We are Mercenaries. We get paid to do a job and we move on. The fact that you continue to try and drag us down to your level shows how much impact we have truely had on your pathetic sycophantile lives.
So what you appear to be saying here is that No.Mercy are pirates because they apparently declare war on random corps, but TFS aren't pirates because other people pay them money to declare war on random corps.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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theRaptor
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.12.12 23:01:00 -
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What is the ethical difference between a mercenary and a pirate anyway? The only practical difference is that the victim of a mercenary knows to expect attack, and from whom. But then again anyone entering low security space should have that expectation. ---
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Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.12.12 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor What is the ethical difference between a mercenary and a pirate anyway? The only practical difference is that the victim of a mercenary knows to expect attack, and from whom. But then again anyone entering low security space should have that expectation.
A pirate will pillage and plunder organizations which usually cannot defend themselves with the intent of gaining ISK from the destruction. Mercenaries are hired as third parties to confrontations when one side feels that the price is worth the service. Usually this means that the merc's targets are well armed (or at least better armed than the merc's employer) and capable of defending themselves.
The ethical difference is that while both end up attacking industrial bases and try to make mockeries of the opponent's military capability, pirates will normally choose weaker targets where mercenaries will normally come across stronger ones.
Of course neither can really afford to have too many ethics in regards to how the strong should treat the weak, so I'd imagine the answer they'd give you is "We don't need an ethical difference." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Cadirro
DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.12 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor What is the ethical difference between a mercenary and a pirate anyway? The only practical difference is that the victim of a mercenary knows to expect attack, and from whom. But then again anyone entering low security space should have that expectation.
Difference between mercenaries and pirates? Well, pirates kill random stuff to get loot, mercenaries kill specific stuff to get loot and payment. One would say mercenaries are a bit more clever, but who am i to tell. Also it doesnt really matter.
What does matter is that neither mercenaries nor pirates claim to be otherwise, wich obviously doesnt go for the honorable Amarr militia. Or have you finally fallen far enough to actually admit youre filthy pirates, just like you claim Star Fraction to be?
Amusing!
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Gemini Tordanis
Caldari No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.12.12 23:30:00 -
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Excellent. Another news feed about No.Mercy - More attention granted.
Should we apply for Lady Neferis' Celebrities of Eve? We could be the first nominee on a corporate level. What do you think?
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2009.12.13 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Gemini Tordanis Excellent. Another news feed about No.Mercy - More attention granted.
Should we apply for Lady Neferis' Celebrities of Eve? We could be the first nominee on a corporate level. What do you think?
*winks*
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
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Bashiri
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.12.13 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mielono
Originally by: Ol'summer bedLinen Edited by: Ol''summer bedLinen on 12/12/2009 10:39:57
Alt SCAM corp gets war decced, and of all people, the CEO asked for your advise? Oh noes?
TFS a pirate alliance + scam corp SWARTA. I fail to see the connection dear sir! /s
As far as I know Drythar is still a trial member, but he gets to prove himself in the next few days. Yes, when we were beginning we were scammed theres a huge mega thread about it, it has nothing to do with our operations, We honestly should not be talking about this until our CEO makes a stance on things since the general rule is keep everything in house till we figure out a unified stance.
While I would like to ask some questions about the why of the wardec theres really no point, we are just planning to have as much fun with it as we can. It actually caught me by suprise I am one of the more vocal and active members here on Galnet so when someone asked me who No.Mercy was I actually felt good about even knowing anything about them.
my emprees sends her greatest luck to your corp.
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Mielono
Caldari SWARTA
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Posted - 2009.12.13 08:23:00 -
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Its a learning experience at the least, so far we are following the Cardinal Rule "Do not fly it if you can not lose it".
Being one of the miners I cannot join in or at least if I did it would not make much difference, but our Guards seem to be having a good time. I hope it is the same on your end, best luck to the better man (by which I mean us ; )
Perhaps when this is over and done with we can discuss the tactics involved.
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Tia a'Kanat
Caldari Paramilitary Skanks
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Posted - 2009.12.13 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jakiin
Originally by: theRaptor What is the ethical difference between a mercenary and a pirate anyway? The only practical difference is that the victim of a mercenary knows to expect attack, and from whom. But then again anyone entering low security space should have that expectation.
The ethical difference is that while both end up attacking industrial bases and try to make mockeries of the opponent's military capability, pirates will normally choose weaker targets where mercenaries will normally come across stronger ones.
There's one more important difference: Anonymity. The hiring party (usually) remains unknown to the target, the mercenaries acting as a buffer between them. The target has no way of knowing for sure who the hiring party is, even if they have suspicions about it. With pirates, it's them who are the enemy. With mercs, they are merely a weapon wielded by the enemy.
Of course most mercs will happily go pirating if there are no jobs available, blurring the distinction from that direction as well.
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hmmv50cal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.14 05:01:00 -
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Oh no. God forbid they need ISK to fund their war machine!
/sarcasm
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