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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.06.19 06:50:00 -
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The forums can no longer be part of the meta game.
Due to the current rule enforcement and additions especially.
30. Rumor threads and posts
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. Players who engage in these type of threads can expect to receive a warning and ban.
This post its self does NOT breach 11. Immediate banning from the forum can result from any of the following:
The posting of pornography; discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive; excessive obscene or vulgar language; posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity; providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned.
Why can this no longer be classed as part of the Meta Game?
Well during the last CSM election I had a lot of fun dragging up baseless allegations and even ones I believed were true but now they would all be considered rumours like:
Goonswarm created a massive number of alt accounts to vote. Rumor Banned.
Goonswarm forced their members to vote for mittens. Rumor Banned.
CSM member X is only out for their highsec mining/Null sec/Faction warfare. Rumor Banned.
CSM member X got off light on a ban due to favoratism. Rumor Banned
So next years CSM elections will be as boring as hell as anything said about a candidate will pretty much all be rumor so cannot be said.
As to the usual run of the mill arguments on this forum calling someone a sperg, assburger or any of the following is a slur so comes under 6.Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another. Text of this nature is not beneficial to the community spirit and will not be tolerated. Corporation, faction and alliance members and other players are cautioned to avoid allowing GÇ£in characterGÇ¥ disputes from becoming "out of character" personal attacks. The game is designed for role-playing and/or portraying a role and it is sometimes easy for tempers to flare when the lines between the virtual world and the real world are crossed. Please keep in-game disputes in the game and off the forum unless it is clearly a mutual, in-character exchange.
So non of that can occur. Frankly I don't mind that one but there is alot of edits going on at the moment so this will probably occur as well.
So all they want is a friendly little chat board (or bored) where only constructive criticism is ever written. The down side for CCP will be instead of people venting here, if we ever get another Incarna all they will see is a bunch of messages saying "**** off" and accounts closing.
So as my usual Tinfoil hat style is now illegal, that raps it up for me. No I'm not quitting EvE but I will have to find a Non-CCP board to post too for anything not just based completely on facts. While screaming "RUMOR BAN HIM" at everyone else, while I am on this board.
Otherwise CSM elections will be as boring as hell and so will all the other conversations.
Actually this will probably be classed as
5. Ranting is prohibited
A rant is a long-winded, redundant post, often filled with angry, non-constructive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and helpful in the development of the game, but rants are disruptive and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise, clear manner and avoid going off on rambling tangents.
It isn't a rant as it is a free exchange of ideas but I presume a free exchange is only when it is said nicely, without rumors or casting CCP's ideas in a bad light.
So in summary if you can only stick to polite facts it is not really a meta game fighting for political capital. Its just an ideas board, maybe they should just get rid of GD all together.
So long and thanks for all the fish.
For those who don't know forum rules link below. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
601
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Posted - 2012.06.19 06:51:00 -
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Sure you can still metagame on the forums. You just can't post rumor threads. Anything other is still fair game.
Compare to, dunno, canflipping in starter systems. A specific exception that CCP doesn't want you to do. Doesn't mean you can't canflip anywhere else in the game. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2425
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Posted - 2012.06.19 06:52:00 -
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No. It just means the unimaginative and crude attempts get filtered out more often. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1066
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Posted - 2012.06.19 06:52:00 -
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I enjoy discussing general issues. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1271
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Posted - 2012.06.19 06:53:00 -
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don't worry noone believed you anyway |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8056
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Posted - 2012.06.19 06:53:00 -
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Excellent. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1527
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Posted - 2012.06.19 07:02:00 -
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While discussing moderation is not allowed, and neither is ranting, please pay more attention to the wording of the "no flames" bit: if the discussion is clearly mutual, it's not a flame. It is possible to meta game with these rules in place, you just have to get creative. No longer will bad posting along the lines of "Foobar is a black Irish terrorist tinfoil hat wearing Jew" be allowed. You will have to resort to intellectual debate and cunning linguistics.
Other meta gaming options include luring foolish others into breaking the rules, as has always has been the case. Day 0 advice for new players: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=77176 |
Alain Kinsella
120
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Posted - 2012.06.19 07:03:00 -
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IBTL probably, since it will likely be cited as moderation discussion.
Since you linked it, I reviewed the recent changes. Personally (and from the perspective of a former Second Life moderator) I'm surprised those didn't occur earlier. +1 to CCP actually.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
311
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Posted - 2012.06.19 07:11:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:don't worry noone believed you anyway Is that a fact? did you pole the Forum community?
See Rumor Banned or even classed as a flame.
It depends how hard they enforce this but they are going pretty hard atm. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1271
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Posted - 2012.06.19 07:14:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:don't worry noone believed you anyway Is that a fact? did you pole the Forum community? one badposter at a time |
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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
272
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Posted - 2012.06.19 07:16:00 -
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If I was in some doubt I would simply petition the Mega-Corp CCP Overlords, bringer of forum rules and seek clarification. EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
311
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Posted - 2012.06.19 07:16:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:don't worry noone believed you anyway Is that a fact? did you pole the Forum community? one badposter at a time As you don't have a Doctorate in English you can fax to CCP
Rumor BANNED. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
311
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Posted - 2012.06.19 07:19:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:If I was in some doubt I would simply petition the Mega-Corp CCP Overlords, bringer of forum rules and seek clarification. I did that last time and the reply was really funny, but given my habit of Tin foil hatting, I would be sending 40 petitions a day, and then waiting weeks for a response. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.06.19 08:13:00 -
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Hey everyone, let's post yet another thread about how goonswarm plays eve!
Goony goony goon gooned my goonswarm. Goons gooned goony non-goons and gooned at me for gooning about it.
Goons. Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.
If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you. |
Eternus8lux8lucis
New Eden Regimental Marines Rebel Alliance of New Eden
98
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Posted - 2012.06.19 08:16:00 -
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About time if you ask me. Lots of useless posts these days. I usually bug a certain someone for their "excessive" use of the banhammer on closing threads but its really needed more often than not. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
64
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Posted - 2012.06.19 08:18:00 -
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What, you mean that the signal to noise ratio will go up?
And this a problem how? Amat victoria curam. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
311
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Posted - 2012.06.19 08:28:00 -
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InternetSpaceship wrote:Hey everyone, let's post yet another thread about how goonswarm plays eve!
Goony goony goon gooned my goonswarm. Goons gooned goony non-goons and gooned at me for gooning about it.
Goons. Well at least I can say "You don't know how to read".
That is factual.....Oh but it's a flame.........So I burn.
Oh wait yours was a Troll so you burn too Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
165
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Posted - 2012.06.19 08:43:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: did you pole the Forum community?
The word you're looking for is 'poll.' although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
255
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Posted - 2012.06.19 08:49:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:don't worry noone believed you anyway Is that a fact? did you pole the Forum community? one badposter at a time As you don't have a Doctorate in English you can fax to CCP Rumor BANNED.
I'm done
[BANNED] brb |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
3770
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Posted - 2012.06.19 09:59:00 -
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I am awesome, and so is my moustache.
I deal in fact, not rumour.
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
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Jonah Gravenstein
493
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Posted - 2012.06.19 10:20:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:I am awesome, and so is my moustache.
I deal in fact, not rumour.
I can confirm that the magnificent 'tache of Bumblefck is a better poster than I am
NB: I'm not always a shiptoaster, sometimes I slip up and actually post something that makes sense. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:07:00 -
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I think you forgot to hit the enter key. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
985
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:39:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:
Well during the last CSM election I had a lot of fun dragging up baseless allegations and even ones I believed were true but now they would all be considered rumours like:
Goonswarm created a massive number of alt accounts to vote. Rumor Banned.
Goonswarm forced their members to vote for mittens. Rumor Banned.
CSM member X is only out for their highsec mining/Null sec/Faction warfare. Rumor Banned.
CSM member X got off light on a ban due to favoratism. Rumor Banned
You just demonstrated how to get around the ban on rumourmongering.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Grumpy Owly
Paladin Philanthropists
656
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:39:00 -
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Actually as much as the EVE-O forums are not really an exercise in "truth" there is a valid component of Meta play aspects applied with normal concerns and interests. Its intrisically evident everytime you favour one aspect over another.
I find this to be an extention to the IG aspects of EVE.
Problematic areas for me however are areas like insults, debunking, manipulation, outright fabrications of issues and obstenate uncompromising biased deliveries etc etc. These elements are only used to destabalise topics or posters as opposed to actually discussing the merits of something.
However, it is fair to say that Jita Corner at election time gets a "special dispensation" by the CCP staff and does inform the playerbase to expect some level of "propoganda" (good or bad) over and above the "normal" recommended daily allowance (?).
My only suggeston with the political aspects of the game is, to allow it to continue, but take these concerns with a pinch of salt. Passions can sometimes be dissproportionally representative to issues as I think is self evident to most, I can be forgiving of it at the best of times to some extent. But the more extreme political stances I do find diffcult to tollerate.
What is also useful to remember is that even large organisations who have significant "political" personalities is that the labeliing of their organisation, whilst understandably "guilty by association" and having intrinsic support, may not be a true picture of all it's members.
Also some posters don't take themselves too seriously, but do like winding up those who are, even if it isn't helpfull overall. So also helpfull to second guess the motivations between player and character goals, a very blurred and confusing line sometimes perhaps?
Apart from that some concensus and figures reflect that the "offical" politics are only representative of the voting populace, which is a fair consideration of any democratic ideals. But it is a minority representation and there is a view that in the main players are apathetic to these politcal elements for whatever reason. Seems to be improving however with each year though. Regardless I still think the ideals of having the CSM is at least another vehicle for players to explore in their "relationship" with CCP. Bounty Hunting, Soon Gäó
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
985
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:40:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Frying Doom wrote: did you pole the Forum community? The word you're looking for is 'poll.'
Or maybe he did mean pole.
Apparently a few of the regular posters have been walking funnily lately.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Lord Ryan
Quantum Cats Syndicate
530
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:53:00 -
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No more post about our masters or their pet CCP employees? -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
dontbanmebro
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:58:00 -
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As with all of these rules, if you really find yourself unsure about where the line is and if you're crossing it or not, then you almost assuredly just shouldn't be doing it anyway.
GD is a cancer on this game, and it is my guess that they lose customers who go through the "oh, a forum for general discussion. I'll just pop in and see what goes on here. Oh god....what is this?! Oh god! No, this can't be happening! No! NO! NOOOOOOOOO!". Customer lost.
Restricting the ability of mentally unhinged and emotionally disturbed forum warriors to rabble-rouse is hardly lessening some fundamental element of Eve. |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
545
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:21:00 -
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Stop what appears to be ranting about the new forum rules.
There, you can meta game, but choose your words carefully. |
Drachiel
Mercury LLC
10
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:24:00 -
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So does this mean that falsified speculation in MD for personal profit is banned now? :\
Repeal this CCP. |
dontbanmebro
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:25:00 -
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Drachiel wrote:So does this mean that falsified speculation in MD for personal profit is banned now? :\
Repeal this CCP.
Don't be dense. |
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