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Bull Slater
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Posted - 2004.11.14 04:59:00 -
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How much longer are you going to let one stupid, irritating and very costly bug go on?! I've seen a lot of players complain about losing their rental on a research slot that was in use and now it's finally happened to me. I did have a blueprint in it but because I couldn't remember exactly how the bug works (hah) I have now lost the slot. I gave away two other slots I found to players that needed them when I found them for free and this is my reward.
FIX THE DAMN THING ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bull Slater
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Posted - 2004.11.14 04:59:00 -
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How much longer are you going to let one stupid, irritating and very costly bug go on?! I've seen a lot of players complain about losing their rental on a research slot that was in use and now it's finally happened to me. I did have a blueprint in it but because I couldn't remember exactly how the bug works (hah) I have now lost the slot. I gave away two other slots I found to players that needed them when I found them for free and this is my reward.
FIX THE DAMN THING ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.11.14 05:18:00 -
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Sorry. There are no bugs in EVE.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.11.14 05:18:00 -
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Sorry. There are no bugs in EVE.
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Bull Slater
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Posted - 2004.11.14 06:17:00 -
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Wow you're just full of really helpful posts today aren't you Sally? :)
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Bull Slater
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Posted - 2004.11.14 06:17:00 -
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Wow you're just full of really helpful posts today aren't you Sally? :)
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Vicker Lahn'se
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Posted - 2004.11.14 07:33:00 -
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I myself have never gotten a lab slot in the first place. I really wish I did, but they have lab slot aquisition set up as a luck kind of thing. This is the big problem here, not the fact that you might lose it because of a bug. If it was easy to get one in the first place, you wouldn't be very upset about loosing it, seeing as you'd just rent another. Either way, everybody is ****ed off about how the labs currently work. EVERYBODY. Not just a couple random people, no. The entire mass of people who play Eve will tell you to fix the labs. So why don't you? I love the flashy new ships and all, but can't you just stop for one moment and fix the labs? Please???
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Vicker Lahn'se
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Posted - 2004.11.14 07:33:00 -
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I myself have never gotten a lab slot in the first place. I really wish I did, but they have lab slot aquisition set up as a luck kind of thing. This is the big problem here, not the fact that you might lose it because of a bug. If it was easy to get one in the first place, you wouldn't be very upset about loosing it, seeing as you'd just rent another. Either way, everybody is ****ed off about how the labs currently work. EVERYBODY. Not just a couple random people, no. The entire mass of people who play Eve will tell you to fix the labs. So why don't you? I love the flashy new ships and all, but can't you just stop for one moment and fix the labs? Please???
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Tion
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Posted - 2004.11.14 07:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se
I myself have never gotten a lab slot in the first place. I really wish I did, but they have lab slot aquisition set up as a luck kind of thing. This is the big problem here, not the fact that you might lose it because of a bug. If it was easy to get one in the first place, you wouldn't be very upset about loosing it, seeing as you'd just rent another. Either way, everybody is ****ed off about how the labs currently work. EVERYBODY. Not just a couple random people, no. The entire mass of people who play Eve will tell you to fix the labs. So why don't you? I love the flashy new ships and all, but can't you just stop for one moment and fix the labs? Please???
I don't know about the bug... but ccp HAS fixed the lab slot problem. well... for those corps that can aford PoS that is... Lab slots for your corp... only your corp. As many as you can build.
 well... build and deffend that is.
Forums = B!tching
Don't be a fool and die for your corp! Let the other sonofab!tch die for his! |
Tion
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Posted - 2004.11.14 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se
I myself have never gotten a lab slot in the first place. I really wish I did, but they have lab slot aquisition set up as a luck kind of thing. This is the big problem here, not the fact that you might lose it because of a bug. If it was easy to get one in the first place, you wouldn't be very upset about loosing it, seeing as you'd just rent another. Either way, everybody is ****ed off about how the labs currently work. EVERYBODY. Not just a couple random people, no. The entire mass of people who play Eve will tell you to fix the labs. So why don't you? I love the flashy new ships and all, but can't you just stop for one moment and fix the labs? Please???
I don't know about the bug... but ccp HAS fixed the lab slot problem. well... for those corps that can aford PoS that is... Lab slots for your corp... only your corp. As many as you can build.
well... build and deffend that is.
Forums = B!tching
Don't be a fool and die for your corp! Let the other sonofab!tch die for his! |
Urkl
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:39:00 -
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I'm skeptical that labs in POS's will have any effect whatsoever on the availability of lab slots in NPC stations. Somehow I just don't see the ME1000 Shuttle BP folks letting em go. Here's to hoping I'm wrong. I'd sure like to have ONE STINKIN' SLOT myself.
[tinfoil hat]
The thought has crossed my mind that perhaps CCP is unwilling to fix the unrent bug because it artificially alleviates the shortage (ever so slightly) by constantly rotating ownership of slots.
[/tinfoil hat]
What's YOUR favorite CCP conspiracy theory? 
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Urkl
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:39:00 -
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I'm skeptical that labs in POS's will have any effect whatsoever on the availability of lab slots in NPC stations. Somehow I just don't see the ME1000 Shuttle BP folks letting em go. Here's to hoping I'm wrong. I'd sure like to have ONE STINKIN' SLOT myself.
[tinfoil hat]
The thought has crossed my mind that perhaps CCP is unwilling to fix the unrent bug because it artificially alleviates the shortage (ever so slightly) by constantly rotating ownership of slots.
[/tinfoil hat]
What's YOUR favorite CCP conspiracy theory?
*** ***** ***** ***** ** ***** ** **** *** *****. |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Urkl
I'm skeptical that labs in POS's will have any effect whatsoever on the availability of lab slots in NPC stations. Somehow I just don't see the ME1000 Shuttle BP folks letting em go. Here's to hoping I'm wrong. I'd sure like to have ONE STINKIN' SLOT myself.
[tinfoil hat]
The thought has crossed my mind that perhaps CCP is unwilling to fix the unrent bug because it artificially alleviates the shortage (ever so slightly) by constantly rotating ownership of slots.
[/tinfoil hat]
What's YOUR favorite CCP conspiracy theory?
My favourite conspiracy is that CCP were expecting to release Exodus tomorrow but TomB's mother was cooking sprouts for dinner and made him miss the release.
Down with sprouts!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Urkl
I'm skeptical that labs in POS's will have any effect whatsoever on the availability of lab slots in NPC stations. Somehow I just don't see the ME1000 Shuttle BP folks letting em go. Here's to hoping I'm wrong. I'd sure like to have ONE STINKIN' SLOT myself.
[tinfoil hat]
The thought has crossed my mind that perhaps CCP is unwilling to fix the unrent bug because it artificially alleviates the shortage (ever so slightly) by constantly rotating ownership of slots.
[/tinfoil hat]
What's YOUR favorite CCP conspiracy theory?
My favourite conspiracy is that CCP were expecting to release Exodus tomorrow but TomB's mother was cooking sprouts for dinner and made him miss the release.
Down with sprouts!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:47:00 -
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Sprouts are ok.. 
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |
Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:47:00 -
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Sprouts are ok..
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |
David Goodwill
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Posted - 2004.11.14 10:39:00 -
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Yeah, this is bugging me a lot as well, speaking as a relative newb, I decided I would like to take my career in Eve into Science, seeing as I started off as a scientist when i created my char and start with science 4, research 2... So, I go off and buy lab ops, and mettelurgy, ready to go research that blue print and getting all excited. Do you think I can find a lab slot ANYWHERE?!?!?! Of course not, I have now travelled about 8 different regions, searching everywhere for one and still no luck. Does this mean that my career choice is null and void? I wish i'd have known that when I started and i'd have chosen something else... 
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Mating call of a pirate...
"rarrggghhh, omg r0x0r, ph34r meeeee"
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David Goodwill
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Posted - 2004.11.14 10:39:00 -
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Yeah, this is bugging me a lot as well, speaking as a relative newb, I decided I would like to take my career in Eve into Science, seeing as I started off as a scientist when i created my char and start with science 4, research 2... So, I go off and buy lab ops, and mettelurgy, ready to go research that blue print and getting all excited. Do you think I can find a lab slot ANYWHERE?!?!?! Of course not, I have now travelled about 8 different regions, searching everywhere for one and still no luck. Does this mean that my career choice is null and void? I wish i'd have known that when I started and i'd have chosen something else...
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Mating call of a pirate...
"rarrggghhh, omg r0x0r, ph34r meeeee"
Average age: 12.. |
zaqq
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Posted - 2004.11.14 10:59:00 -
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i've lost 4 so far
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zaqq
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Posted - 2004.11.14 10:59:00 -
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i've lost 4 so far
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Bull Slater
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Posted - 2004.11.14 15:45:00 -
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As much as I'd love to believe that Exodus and PoS lab slots would alleviate problems with lab slot shortage I don't believe that the people who have 5 or more lab slots will care or think of giving up their slots. They have the lab slots, they can use them with their million alts and they don't care. The only people that can fix this are at CCP, they seem unwilling to listen to the players and ignore the constant stream of players who lose their slots. Nice way to treat the people who pay your wages :) Come on how hard can it be? A few lines of code? I don't know CCP, you guys do so come on fix the damn thing before people start to quit over it.
Players like David Goodwil have a REALLY good point too. When you start playing and pick a career I don't recall it saying anywhere "If you pick science as a career good luck finding a lab slot" so you are forced to mine, PvP, do agent missions..... which might be fun but not if you want to pursue a science orientated career.
CCP, how about even a 'temporary' fix? Forget fixing the bug, although you seem to have done that part already, change the time period between getting the notice of the slot being inactive and you losing it. For example, you don't lose the slot due to inactivity instantly but get 24 hours notice that you will lose it due to not being used (even though it is in use....). If the unrenting bug is such a hard one to track down (must be for it to exist for this long) then surely making this change would be a lot easier and would save so many problems. You'd also be guaranteeing that people play once a day .. perhaps... maybe... kinda... even if just to check if the lab slot they spent weeks / months finding is going to unrent itself.
Or alternatively....... FIX THE DAMN BUG AND MAKE THIS CHANGE! Asking nicely doesn't seem to get things fixed so I make no apologies for the tone of this message CCP.
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Bull Slater
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Posted - 2004.11.14 15:45:00 -
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As much as I'd love to believe that Exodus and PoS lab slots would alleviate problems with lab slot shortage I don't believe that the people who have 5 or more lab slots will care or think of giving up their slots. They have the lab slots, they can use them with their million alts and they don't care. The only people that can fix this are at CCP, they seem unwilling to listen to the players and ignore the constant stream of players who lose their slots. Nice way to treat the people who pay your wages :) Come on how hard can it be? A few lines of code? I don't know CCP, you guys do so come on fix the damn thing before people start to quit over it.
Players like David Goodwil have a REALLY good point too. When you start playing and pick a career I don't recall it saying anywhere "If you pick science as a career good luck finding a lab slot" so you are forced to mine, PvP, do agent missions..... which might be fun but not if you want to pursue a science orientated career.
CCP, how about even a 'temporary' fix? Forget fixing the bug, although you seem to have done that part already, change the time period between getting the notice of the slot being inactive and you losing it. For example, you don't lose the slot due to inactivity instantly but get 24 hours notice that you will lose it due to not being used (even though it is in use....). If the unrenting bug is such a hard one to track down (must be for it to exist for this long) then surely making this change would be a lot easier and would save so many problems. You'd also be guaranteeing that people play once a day .. perhaps... maybe... kinda... even if just to check if the lab slot they spent weeks / months finding is going to unrent itself.
Or alternatively....... FIX THE DAMN BUG AND MAKE THIS CHANGE! Asking nicely doesn't seem to get things fixed so I make no apologies for the tone of this message CCP.
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