you work hard, mission hard,

CCP's sats should be starting to see a reduction in salvage. my mob dont salvage anything below L4 any more for this reason.

And it SUCKS

And it SUCKS

You never should have been salvaging anything below a L4 in the first place. More to the point, if you want to salvage to salvage, do it. But looting? Why bother? L4 mission loot got the nerf long before the latest nerfs. It was at that point that I changed my game from ninja salvaging/looting to w-space and have never looked back.

You do what you enjoy in the game. But I'll tell you, there is more to Eve than L4 missions for isk, lots more isk.

Thats part of the problem. There doesnt seem to be as much of a profit in missioning as there was and the ship prices are through the roof.

As an mature indy, thats fine, but theres less in the salvage for those trying to grind their way to the good stuff without resorting to ETC....

There was a good percentage in salvage and it seems to be gone..

That may apply to you, Mr been here for years, but what about someone grinding their way up? Eveything counts.

Got 2/3rds of the way through the SOE arc in a destroyer the other day and had not come close to filling up the cargo hold in it with the mission drops. Took the cargo expanders off the Noctis because you don't fill the base hold on a level 4 anymore. The new UI is annoying as hell and forces a different method of salvaging which requires more mouse work and kills looting on the fly.

It is CCPs game, they make the rules, they make the choices. I wish they would allow for more flexibility, but the one-size fits all routine of removing functionality and variety is killing the game.

This talk is a good example of what I am refering to in terms of choice. If you are of a short attention span, just to about 16:25

http://www.ted.com/talks/malcolm_gladwell_on_spaghetti_sauce.html

TLDR: Looting and Salvaging is no longer worth the time. Choice is being removed.

For the 'then leave' crowd. Tomorrow my account runs out. I'll check back in a few months.

If you're saying EvE doesn't allow a diverse play style you're terribly wrong my friend. The fact that CCP changed aspects from a few of those styles doesn't mean they removed diversity. What they are doing in general is fitting the mechanics of the game to the phylosophy of risk = reward. All the diversity of gamestyles is still there.

The new UI changed nothing from salvaging: target wreck, activate salvager. Mission looting is still a choice. Not as rewarding as it used to be but you can still do it and save yourself from buying some modules.

When I started playing the game I liked to loot just to get to know the different modules from the game. Missioning and looting isn't supposed to be a 'profession' IMO. It becomes boring and repetitive with time. And if you're not doing it for fun then you're doing it wrong.

The diversity is there for what you can do, but the reasons to do it and the tools to do it have changed because the diversity in options is gone. I don't salvage and loot the same way as the next guy I guess. While you are correct that 'salvaging' hasn't changed, looting has (hence the comment 'salvaging and looting'). I do both activities at the same time(which seems odd to most people for some reason), sometimes I'm in a Noctis where I am stationary, other times a destroyer where you need to move around, it all depends on the situation.

I am a bit of a jack of all trades. I mine, I mission, I salvage(and loot), I roam low-sec, I do industry, I do research, I fly in FW, etc... I even get the need to control inflation (read other posts of mine, I really do get that part) but what looting and salvaging has turned in to now is hardly worth the effort. As for the 'fun' of it, that is where the UI that was forced on us took it all away. Some people think it is better, some think that it is annoying as hell. For me the constant flipping to the cargo window and having to mouse back and forth all over the screen or be forced to put the cargo windows up by the targeting area is just a pain in the ass.

I'm sure the trolls will have a field day with this. Eve isn't dying, it is just not a game for me right now, maybe it will get better, but I was less disappointed with Incarna.

So don't salvage. No one if forcing you too. Though I would hope that you have at least considered the environment. All that junk floating around in space? You know birds and fish get caught in those Malfunctioning Broken Console Power Circuits - PETA is about to curb stomp some folks.

Considering that Salvaging was (once) considered a profession of sorts, with ninja salvaging being it's black sheep brother, it seems rather counter intuitive to nerf an entire profession into the ground.

Considering that Salvaging was (once) considered a profession of sorts, with ninja salvaging being it's black sheep brother, it seems rather counter intuitive to nerf an entire profession into the ground.

How does nerfing things into an item that refines into tritanium helping mining at all?

So, nothing has changed in the low/null sec salvage? Really?