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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.15 20:09:00 -
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tl;dr, make a small bet, win a lot of ISK
Recently, the Tranquility Cluster, the supercomputer that forms EVE On-line's hardware backbone, came very close to a 55K PCU (Peak Concurrent User #), and if you check back on the past records, it is clear that EVE has been reliably growing for many years now, and this of course leads to wild speculation regarding the future.
I present to you a small betting scheme that could potentially make you a lot of ISK if you happen to be the one that predicts correctly when the Tranquility cluster hits the magical 100K PCU mark.
How it works:
- A single bet for a single date costs 25 Million ISK - You can make multiple bets for different dates, but only one bet per date
ISK should be sent to this character with your predicted date as reason in the following format:
xx-yy-zz
where x = DAY y = MONTH Z = YEAR
So if your prediction is that the 100K will be reached on december 15th, 2011, your specified reason will be '15-12-11'. Any ISK sent with incorrect amounts or with incorrect date formatting will be treated to a massage and a hot bath. (j/k. you can just eve-mail me a correction if it happens)
The Winner
Whoever predicts the exact date correctly, or comes closest in case no-one has an exact match, will receive 90% of all placed bets. (I will keep 10% for..err..'administrative cost'). In case multiple people match the final date, the ISK will be evenly split between them. I am of course aware that predicting the final date will become easier as the PCU progresses in the future, so I will set the closing date for betting at the time that the cluster passes the 75K PCU mark.
I will get a small website online soon(tm) where people can view their predicted dates to make sure they were processed correctly.
- Sok.
When will TQ hit the 100K PCU mark? Place a bet! |

Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.15 20:09:00 -
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Reserved.
When will TQ hit the 100K PCU mark? Place a bet! |

5ith8
NoobFleet
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Posted - 2009.12.15 20:14:00 -
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scam |

0oO0oOoOo0o
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Posted - 2009.12.15 20:19:00 -
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Lol and what if eve never hits 100k ? You are going to keep all the money till .. infinity ? Nicy try.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.15 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: 5ith8 scam
Wow, I totally didn't see that coming =P
I guess it seems a bit far-fetched but I am very curious how EVE will develop in the future. I was tempted to include a 'never' option but its hard to set an end-date in that case and the annual growth has been pretty consistent at 30-35% a year over the past 4 years, and when walking in stations finally hits, I expect either a major surge or a total farce.
When will TQ hit the 100K PCU mark? Place a bet! |

Soldur
Helljumpers Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.12.15 20:32:00 -
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pretty sure eve will die before hitting that much
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Mugster
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Posted - 2009.12.15 20:55:00 -
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well with Dust coming, one might speculate, that some of the console players playing it, might fancy trying out EVE also, I predict a notable spike around the launch of Dust.
I reserve the right to change my mind
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Kehmor
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.15 21:07:00 -
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Short on ISK? - Violence isn't the answer, it is the question. The answer is yes. |

Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.16 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor Short on ISK?
Not at all. Just wanted to organise something fun and speculative.
When will TQ hit the 100K PCU mark? Place a bet! |

el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.16 21:33:00 -
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What if EVE dies before then? What if you quit before then?
Anyone who sends you ISK deserves to never see it again.
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Lord Zulu
The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.16 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: 5ith8 scam
you know the guy in jita 4-4, you know the one Caldari citizen 1762.....you know him he is the one that is trying to give away that State issue Raven if you just open a trade with him. Well sok is a bigga scammer than him.......honest he is. He would neva in a million years try to do something so silly as try to have a little fun and make the EvE community a betta place.        
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.17 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: el caido What if EVE dies before then? What if you quit before then?
Anyone who sends you ISK deserves to never see it again.
I suggest you check on the numbers I posted in the OP. If the growth from the past two years continues, EVE should break 100k subs somewhere mid 2012. However I feel that the release of DUST and walking in stations could significantly speed this up.
Then again if you consider 25mil to be a substantial amount of ISK, this probably wasn't made for you.
When will TQ hit the 100K PCU mark? Place a bet! |

Leana Darkrider
Minmatar Creatio -ex- nihilo The Donkey Rollers
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:03:00 -
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I like this idea 
and I don't think the intentions of Sokratesz is to scam people ______________________________________ If only EVE could cook, if only.... |

el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.17 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: el caido What if EVE dies before then? What if you quit before then?
I suggest you check on the numbers I posted in the OP. If the growth from the past two years continues, EVE should break 100k subs somewhere mid 2012. However I feel that the release of DUST and walking in stations could significantly speed this up.
Then again if you consider 25mil to be a substantial amount of ISK, this probably wasn't made for you.
You didn't answer my questions.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.17 18:53:00 -
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If eve dies then the isk isn't worth anything anymore is it? But again, look at the numbers, I'd say its rather unlikely in itself.
And if I quit the game (other than maybe a few months afk due to internship or so) - well i'd be dead probably.
When will TQ hit the 100K PCU mark? Place a bet! |

Bigpimping
Pimp Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 19:59:00 -
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Didn't you take part in a MS scam a while back? ________________________________________ He who pimps, is God... |

cho0li0
Gallente Universal Exports Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz If eve dies then the isk isn't worth anything anymore is it? But again, look at the numbers, I'd say its rather unlikely in itself.
And if I quit the game (other than maybe a few months afk due to internship or so) - well i'd be dead probably.
This is the best mankind simulator out there, eve never dies.
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el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: el caido on 17/12/2009 20:49:28
Originally by: Sokratesz If eve dies then the isk isn't worth anything anymore is it? But again, look at the numbers, I'd say its rather unlikely in itself.
And if I quit the game (other than maybe a few months afk due to internship or so) - well i'd be dead probably.
You still did not answer my questions.
edit: I bow to your Politician V skill.
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tisss
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Bigpimping Edited by: Bigpimping on 17/12/2009 20:05:45 Didn't you take part in a MS scam a while back?
he did.
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Neurotica Zeshi
Gallente Worst Case Scenario.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Whoever predicts the exact date correctly, or comes closest in case no-one has an exact match, will receive 0% of all placed bets. (I will keep 100% for..err..'administrative cost')
- Sok.
I noticed your little error and fixed it for you, no need to thank me or anything, ohh and Merry Christmas 
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 17/12/2009 21:59:05
Originally by: Neurotica Zeshi
Originally by: Sokratesz
Whoever predicts the exact date correctly, or comes closest in case no-one has an exact match, will receive 0% of all placed bets. (I will keep 100% for..err..'administrative cost')
- Sok.
I noticed your little error and fixed it for you, no need to thank me or anything, ohh and Merry Christmas 
If you would consider 25mil isk a lot to lose in a bet then maybe this isn't for you?
Originally by: el caido
You still did not answer my questions.
edit: I bow to your Politician V skill.
I did afaik but please restate them because I seem to fail to understand what you actually want.
Originally by: Bigpimping
Didn't you take part in a MS scam a while back?
Yeah, so?
This is not a scam, this is just some funny speculation, and to create a reward for the winner, I want to make a little pot.
When will TQ hit the 100K PCU mark? Place a bet! |

el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: el caido You still did not answer my questions.
I did afaik but please restate them because I seem to fail to understand what you actually want.
You did not. But I will make the logical assumption that you will be pocketing the ISK in either instance. Good luck with this brilliant idea.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.18 06:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 18/12/2009 06:19:50
Originally by: el caido
Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: el caido You still did not answer my questions.
I did afaik but please restate them because I seem to fail to understand what you actually want.
You did not. But I will make the logical assumption that you will be pocketing the ISK in either instance. Good luck with this brilliant idea.
I did answer that for you, but your logic just seems to fail to comprehend that when I'm dead or when Eve is no more, it would be rather difficult to give people their money back.
I don't need to get rich by scamming people any more, and if I wanted to, I would try slightly harder than for 25 mil ISK, so stop whining
When will TQ hit the 100K PCU mark? Place a bet! |

Therese Law
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.18 06:27:00 -
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clearly you have a problem being trusted. Your CSM sign dosent rly mean anything and you have a history of scamming high value items.
I would not bet on this.
I suggest you try and get a trusted third party inbetween to hold the ISK for you.
Or you can keep trying to flip ppl¦s minds in thinking that you are a great guy that only do this for fun and are not inteending to scam them.
LOL that someone will rly remember this thread in 1-2 years and more than half of the ppl that might put in ISK will be gone from game or sold chars.
Nah u gotta make this a bit more realistic little dude.
Have fun. --
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Sofia Swift
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Posted - 2009.12.18 08:23:00 -
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Didn't sok steal a mothership from someone ? oh yea he did, then made a big post bragging about it.
Good luck with your thing tho.. maybe you will get 5 people to enter.
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Neurotica Zeshi
Gallente Worst Case Scenario.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Edited by: Sokratesz on 17/12/2009 21:59:05
Originally by: Neurotica Zeshi
Originally by: Sokratesz
Whoever predicts the exact date correctly, or comes closest in case no-one has an exact match, will receive 0% of all placed bets. (I will keep 100% for..err..'administrative cost')
- Sok.
I noticed your little error and fixed it for you, no need to thank me or anything, ohh and Merry Christmas 
If you would consider 25mil isk a lot to lose in a bet then maybe this isn't for you?
I like the way you used the word lose in that sentence and not gamble or risk 
And no i was merely pointing out, that this is most likely a scam. And why is that you say? well im glad you asked. Since its taken Eve 5 years to hit that magical 55K mark, and your wager requires the winner to correctly guess when the 100k mark will be achieved. Which may take another 5 years time to pass, and lets face it by then most people will have forgotten or even left by then. You honestly expect people to believe you could resist that nice big, juiccy, delicious, irresistible sum of isk for 5 years.
Well then you sir, are telling pokey pies.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.18 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 18/12/2009 17:14:08
Originally by: Therese Law
I suggest you try and get a trusted third party inbetween to hold the ISK for you.
I'll look into it.
Originally by: Sofia Swift Didn't sok steal a mothership from someone ? oh yea he did, then made a big post bragging about it.
Good luck with your thing tho.. maybe you will get 5 people to enter.
Please link said post, I'd love to see it. Ohwait, it didn't happen and you seem to be in the right christmas mood already, telling fairy tales and all.
Originally by: Neurotica Zeshi You honestly expect people to believe you could resist that nice big, juiccy, delicious, irresistible sum of isk for 5 years.
If 100 people enter, thats 2.5 bil isk. That's not much at all, and if you check the growth numbers, the time scale will liekly be more around 2-2.5 years.
When will TQ hit the 100K PCU mark? Place a bet! |

Verys
Burning Technologies Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.12.20 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Bigpimping
Didn't you take part in a MS scam a while back?
Yeah, so?
WOOSH
That was the sound of your reliability on this competition flying out of the window.
Like a previous poster stated get a third party or there's no reason to even remotely trust this competition.
Either way this competition could go on forever because who knows, eve might never reach 100 people playing at the same time and even if it did it will be a long time from now.
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Skulls VonTote
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Posted - 2009.12.21 21:50:00 -
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I'm so happy the CSMs are busy trying to scam us players out of our ISK - good work!
Can we elect more people to scam us?
CSM = CCP Sponsored Maggot
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TitansRus
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Posted - 2009.12.22 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Skulls VonTote I'm so happy the CSMs are busy trying to scam us players out of our ISK - good work!
Can we elect more people to scam us?
CSM = CCP Sponsored Maggot
That's what he was hoping for that the silly CSM badge brought him creditably. He will only do the same thing as he did with the supercapital deal  FAIL 
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