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Tartaru5
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Posted - 2009.12.16 13:28:00 -
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So... sitting here, msn'ing people to log on so we can do an anomoly. Do a quick system scan....  no anomolies!!! We had 38 before DT, all gone!
before i do a big thing about this.. has anyone else in WH's experianced this?
So... whats the big deal...?
To get into Wspace is kinda fun, the npc's offer a real challenge. Logistics is fun! but, the rewards are actually there if you put work into it and make an effort with friends to set up.
C3's and below can be solo'd, but if you want to push for the real isk.. you HAVE to have a gang, and find the C5/C6. You have to know what your doing! You can't just warp in and start shooting... then collect the rewards. YOu have to make sure your ships are setup correct for the WH you live in, the bonuses are not always as good as you think.. try killing sleepers with 30% bonus to armor! You have to warp in in stages... you have to follow broadcasts!
I got a few of us together after finding 0.0 life a little tiresome and started on our WH adventure. Its turning out to be fun, but it has also had its hard times! Our latest WH, a C5 Wolf-Rayet has been its true name... a wolf! the bonuses are indeed both ways! But that was not the hard part about our very own c5. It opened up, we jumped in our pos, carrier and bs. Then it closed, and we never got another new opening for over 7 days direct to empire. Infact, we were scanning daily for 5 days to only find c2/c1 entrances through about 3/4 wh jumps! We had 2 more carriers waiting to come in. So was left to run sites with 1 carrier and 4 BS. Now, you maybe thinking, thats a ton of dps and your probably burning these sites... its a Wolf-Rayet C5... we get our bonuses, but so do the sleepers... having our max paladin pilots hitting Guardian Sleepers for 800 on grouped guns while sleeprs are triple webbed and triple painted should give some of you an idea of what we are facing in this C5. And anyone thats has faced a 6 guardian spawn will only be too happy to tell you we are not shooting your standard BS here!
Anyway, its been fun, its made us some isk. We've worked together! When we are not ALL online, some of us play alts, some of us scan around. The is infact only a hand full of us running multiple alts (less actual cuts of the loot makes better income). But, and this is the really exciting thing about WH anomolies. It has to be the best system CCP has created that is truely risk reward! We risk MORE isk in ships, we gain more. Its brillent! The more caps we push into a site, the more the sleepers bring it! Obviously doing it without good planning will for sure kill you, cause if you bring in too many additional spawns you will not be able to tank it. Not only that, but also having no local really brings home the risk rewards situation. We did infact 2 days ago loose 1 carrier faction fit, 1 paladin faction fit, 1 rapier faction fit and an abaddon. We got careless as we risked everything a very good set up warped in and took us out.
The logistics for WH's can be challenging when you have to scan so much daily always after DT cause the sigs change at DT. You can't just quickly buy something off the nearest market if your 3 deep in a wh!
So there you have it.. this really well worked out system working as intended. RISK = REWARD when risking it actually means to risk it!
Back on to the subject... any WH explorers experianced this drop of anomolies before?
Cause i'll be honest, after the **** we've gone through to setup in this wh, and to find out i can infact just afk one of my chars in a big ship in 0.0 right now and make stupid amounts of isk with the new systems... yes the amounts are crazy what people are bringing in right now if you know what your doing and understand the systems at ZERO real risk! |
Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.12.16 13:33:00 -
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Petition?
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Tartaru5
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Posted - 2009.12.16 13:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Lindsay Logan
Petition?
yes... but when your sitting around wondering what is going on, its kinda nice to get feed back from anyone else who has had the same issue. We await with worry the outcome from the petition.
i know sites spawn and despawn, but to completly drop 38 sites seems like the risk is just too much for the effort one has to put in to do these. i hope this is a server issue or something and is not working as intended. |
Baron Agamemnon
Caldari
Holy Grail Construction
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.12.16 13:45:00 -
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During the months I lived in WH space I did not notice this thing. So no help in me 
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Concubinia Scarlett
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Posted - 2009.12.16 14:24:00 -
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This was in the latest patch notes from the other day, it may be relevant:
A defect that would sometimes keep all anomalies and exploration complexes in a system from despawning has been destroyed with extreme prejudice.
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Mytha Ralir
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Posted - 2009.12.16 14:30:00 -
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I cannot comment on lots of sites disappearing after DT, haven't seen this myself.
One thing seems apparent, I don't think you fully investigated the wormhole you decided to use as your base. Some w-space systems have static "known space" wormholes. Basically meaning that when the wormhole to "known space" pops a new one to the same "sec status, known space" will spawn immediatley (e.g. it will always be to lowsec). These are the prime w-space systems for that very reason.
When choosing the wormhole you want to base in you need to spend a few days gathering an understanding of what exits you will always have. If its sporadic find a different w-space system.
These types of wormholes are highly sought after and if used properly they yield a lot of ISK.
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Tartaru5
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Posted - 2009.12.16 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mytha Ralir
I cannot comment on lots of sites disappearing after DT, haven't seen this myself.
One thing seems apparent, I don't think you fully investigated the wormhole you decided to use as your base. Some w-space systems have static "known space" wormholes. Basically meaning that when the wormhole to "known space" pops a new one to the same "sec status, known space" will spawn immediatley (e.g. it will always be to lowsec). These are the prime w-space systems for that very reason.
thanks for your input, this wouldn't be our fist C5 and have done much research. We have a single static C5 to our C5, we do get other exits, but the first 7 days we only kept our static... which on 2 days we collapsed 7 times to spawn a better system to give us exits we could use. but thats all not relevent here on our knowledge of WH space, its really about if anyone has had 37 anomolies drop like we just did.
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Mytha Ralir
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Posted - 2009.12.16 14:44:00 -
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No probs just didn't know if you are new to w-space or not.
As I said I haven't seen it myself...
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Karmic Enigma
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Posted - 2009.12.16 14:56:00 -
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I can't say I have seem that as well...
But it sure sounds like a bug.
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Bill'Husker'Adama
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Posted - 2009.12.16 16:36:00 -
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I have lived in both a c5 and a c3 wh. Once we set up a POS no anomalies spawned again. We had grav sites, radar, ladar, and mag sites. But never any anomalies. I thought it was because we dropped a POS in the system. Lived in both wh for weeks and never saw another anomaly the rest of the time we were there.
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Aleiceland
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Posted - 2009.12.16 17:02:00 -
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same thing here m8 , no anomalies , from time to time , grav signatures , 1 or 2 , but nothing else......
We have been sitting arround trying to find out what a hell is going on, maybe a failure, who knows , it all started after the release of dominion fiasco.
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Tartaru5
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Posted - 2009.12.16 17:28:00 -
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presently we have been sitting in our wh wondering what is going on... my exploration petition has yet to be replied too... since 1247 evetime. I filed a stuck petition as its the only thing left for us to do :( Stuck petition is in progress but no explanation to as what has happened? |
Tartaru5
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Posted - 2009.12.16 19:11:00 -
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UPDATE
while i can not link the petition response, we have been told the is nothing they can do and we have to sit around to continue to do nothing. Thanks CCP, epic game. You provide content, then you beak your own game, and tell us to sit around and do nothing. Basically no point logging on till this is resolved.... no anwsers to whether or not anomolies will even respawn.
The real issue is the amount of work one puts into this and the amount thats required to pull out with no rewards! |
Riyusone Haro
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Posted - 2009.12.16 19:16:00 -
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It is also possible someone snuck into your system without your noticing and warped to all the sites causing them to de-spawn after a few days.
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Tartaru5
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Posted - 2009.12.16 19:28:00 -
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your right... during dt too, because you know, thats when the timer just so happen to fall on... all 38 sites during the 1 hour over dt. he must have been busy!
thats almost as bad as the GM suggesting that they all just so happen to despawn.... please!
yes i am going off on one.... so would you if you found your corp is sitting around logging off and none of them playing because we can't do anything except pack up now... thats a lot of stuff to sort out.. and for what? to be boned by ccp... seems this WH experiance is turning sour. With the major issue right now going on and multiple of bug reports being filed... yeah.. we are in Wspace... we can't just jump to the next system and do somethiing else!. |
Alex Raptos
Caldari
Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2009.12.16 19:51:00 -
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Wormhole Settler -1, CCP 1.
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
I've become gay for Mark Harmon despite my initial reservations about the show NCIS but nobody will ever know
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Dodgy Past
Amarr
Debitum Naturae
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Posted - 2009.12.16 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tartaru5
With the major issue right now going on and multiple of bug reports being filed... yeah.. we are in Wspace... we can't just jump to the next system and do somethiing else!.
It is a classic example of the poor service GMs can give, and tbh if I was you I'd be tempted to escalate it until you feel you've had the petition seen to by a knowledgeable GM.
On a positive note with a static C5 you should be able to find plenty of other content to help keep you buys.
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turaka
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Posted - 2009.12.17 00:56:00 -
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we had the same thing happen after down time we lost a new gravi. the next down time we lost another one that was only a few hours old. now we went from 11 sigs to 6 over night!
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Derus Grobb
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2009.12.17 11:08:00 -
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Hah
sorry to say this but we found your system the other day and warped to all of the anomalies.
you should have done them quicker.
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Aleiceland
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Posted - 2009.12.17 11:22:00 -
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day 2,....update , 24hs later....no anomalies...god dammit.
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Tartaru5
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Posted - 2009.12.17 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Derus Grobb
Hah
sorry to say this but we found your system the other day and warped to all of the anomalies.
you should have done them quicker.
sadly not.... intresting you got it to time just perfectly to despawn all at once over dt. You did ofc forget to activate the Cosmic Signatures, and this was the only one system you did it to ofc..... Anywya, the seems to be a bigger issue with anomolies right now, so while you'd like to claim this, its just some boost to express your griefing joy...
UPDATE
24hours later, we have decided to move out. Not much you can do, when CCP failed to reply or inform us to what has happened.
No new sites have respawnd Sadly. Whatever the issue is, the work we put in, and the work we will have to do to move out seems a complete waste. It wouldn't have taken too long to expalain to us what has happened from CCP after we petitioned and requested many times for updates. |
Deckape Hangers
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Posted - 2009.12.17 13:11:00 -
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I scanned down my home system in Provi. we have the upgrades that promise 12 anomalies at all times. Scanned from every planet with zero anomalies.
I guess they did kill something with extreme prejudice.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tartaru5
Originally by: Derus Grobb
Hah
sorry to say this but we found your system the other day and warped to all of the anomalies.
you should have done them quicker.
sadly not.... intresting you got it to time just perfectly to despawn all at once over dt. You did ofc forget to activate the Cosmic Signatures, and this was the only one system you did it to ofc..... Anywya, the seems to be a bigger issue with anomolies right now, so while you'd like to claim this, its just some boost to express your griefing joy...
UPDATE
24hours later, we have decided to move out. Not much you can do, when CCP failed to reply or inform us to what has happened.
No new sites have respawnd Sadly. Whatever the issue is, the work we put in, and the work we will have to do to move out seems a complete waste. It wouldn't have taken too long to expalain to us what has happened from CCP after we petitioned and requested many times for updates.
Your serious, so soon after a patch you expect everything to be miraculously fixed in 24 hours ( assuming there is a problem ) this is EVE learn some patience, yes it's annoying as hell but 24 hours isn't a long time for anything.
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Tartaru5
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Posted - 2009.12.17 13:36:00 -
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24 hours is a long time of a corp of people sitting around in WH space with very little to do. We could pull our pos and move to a new wh... however, having the number of caps we have in the system with only 1 way to move them out (1 wh supports at best 3, although not tried that due to numbers being very close) so 1 wh having to support 2 caps at best, thus leaving us with multiple left in wh waiting for next wh... that we will have to scan up to 2-3 systems often with up to 20 signatures to find a route to lowsec. Assuming ofc, the is a c4/5 access to lowsec in the cluster we live on for this 24hr cycle.
but yeah... patients... |
Kazang
Wrecking Shots
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Posted - 2009.12.17 13:59:00 -
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Anomalies do not respawn in wormholes.
You get sites spawning(mag/gav/ladar/radar) but anomalies are random and once they are gone they are gone. That's just the way it is, if you want to do anomalies go to the adjacent WH run them and go back to your C5 to mine, or not and keep moving. W-space is about exploration not sitting in one system and farming anomalies.
Kazang
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Amy Garzan
Gallente
The Warp Rats
Core Factor
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:35:00 -
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I have noticed this. our c3 wh has been void of all but exits past 3 days
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Yerotun
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Posted - 2009.12.18 00:09:00 -
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Here is a wh story for you.
We originally moved into this c3, that well...was disappointing, even to the miners as we would get one grav a week, if that. 0 new combat sites had spawned the first week we were in there. So we get bored and start lookin around. We scan out through this c6, and find an untouched c3. Looks like this thing hasn't been used ever. HELL YEAH over corp chat, lets get the eff out into that hole.
We proceed to spend the next 6 hours or so dismantling a pos, 411 for peoples phone numbers so we can tell them log in now. Get everything packed, all orcas lined up and ready to move. Everything goes perfect. Get setup, pos coming online right as dt hits, so i can finally hit the sack for a few hours. Nervously i fall asleep, see it's just me and a couple buddies with a few other aquantences livin in there with us. We have what amounts to near our whole corp's value just floatin in space.
Anyhow, all is good, things worked, and we still haven't managed to clear all of the combat sites. We are miner heavy, so they hit the roids as they come and the other group does the sites. So no have not ever seen this happen where the sites just disappear. We constantly have at least 4 combats spawn into selection of sites after dt, and more through the day. but never in this hole has our scanner come up empty of even profession sites. |
Lanerith
Gears of Progress
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2009.12.18 00:10:00 -
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Interesting, so they no longer support a group jump over mass that collapses WH but lets all the ships through anyways?
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Usagi Tsukino
Miyazaki Zaibatsu
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.12.18 02:38:00 -
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Don't flame me for asking you questions that may seem like I am treating you like a noob because that is not my intention, but I've have issues with my scanner before...
Are you SURE they are gone? Have you had other people scan too? I ask because I've had my different filters go crazy and refuse to let me reselect 'show all' and I was unable to see anoms.
Otherwise, it's possible (but very unlucky) that they all spawned at the same time, so were scheduled to despawn at the same time, though it's weird no new ones respawned. But I don't know much about the respawn rates as I have been out of the WH business for a while, except for the occasional jaunt in to lose a ship to a gank squad. 
If they are gone, sorry. But with the trouble CCP has been having with the anoms, I guess anything is possible. I hope you guys can work something out. Best of luck.
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August Guns
Minmatar
Generic Technologies and Futures Organization
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Posted - 2009.12.18 02:49:00 -
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It sounds like the OP got site-****d. It remains to be seen if it was by CCP, himself, or some evil outsider. |
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