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Akira Revan
Caldari Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis
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Posted - 2009.12.16 22:43:00 -
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Ishukone-Raata External Securities Forward Command Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis Headpuartes Malkalen V - Moon 1 - Ishukone Corporation Factory CY111-12-16
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
In response to increasing unprovoked attacks on civilan supply ships and noncombatant military observers by agents of the Federated Militas, the Ishukone Corporation has detailed security forces to assist in the defense of State interests in the region.
Elite pilots selected from among Ishukone's security forces have been detailed to forward bases near the Intaki system to provide an added layer of security to State naval forces already patrolling the area. While the majority of the pilots selected have been citizens of the State, a substantial number of Intaki nationals are also serving alongside. This security wing has been designated the Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis ("Ishukone-Raata External Security," designated by the <I-RSK> ticker).
These pilots shall be detailed to the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive (designated by the <I-RED> ticker), to serve as external security forces under I-RED's high command. I-RED forces are primarily detailed to the Providence region to secure State assets there, but the particular expertise of the I-RED Admiralty has commended them to Ishukone's Directorate: their experience in combat operations in dangerous regions of space shall ensure success in commanding long-range tactical forces in the the Placid region.
I-RED's adherence to the NRDS ("Not Red, Don't Shoot") policy in Providence shall be upheld by I-RSK forces operating under Ishukone Corporation's auspices in the Placid region. Pilots shall not engage in acts of piracy, griefing, or unprovoked aggression; nor shall these pilots attack noncombatants.
Ishukone Corporation is dismayed by the recent attacks on civilian and noncombatant assets, and is committed to securing the region on behalf of the Intaki citizenry, as well as the State. Such attacks are both outrageous and cowardly, and furthermore violate the rules of military engagement. Ishukone Corporation shall not tolerate such wanton acts without response.
Akira Revan I-RSK Taisa - Forward Command Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis
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Jyotmimana Karana
Intaki Pure
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Posted - 2009.12.17 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Akira Revan Ishukone Corporation is committed to securing the region on behalf of the Intaki citizenry, as well as the State.
You cannot secure the region for both the Intaki citizenry and the State; the two are mutually exclusive.
Regardless of what those whose support you have purchased tell you, true Intaki have no desire to see your ships in orbit around our planet. Your ships will only bring more Federation ships.
This build up can only lead to more suffering by the Intaki people. Divert your fleet. Send them all to Providence. Perhaps the residents there will welcome you, but Intaki will not.
We will not bow to you. We will not become drones in your corporate machine.
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Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.12.17 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana You cannot secure the region for both the Intaki citizenry and the State; the two are mutually exclusive.
Yet their interests can be the same. If the FDU is shooting down pilots because they're affiliated with the State, how do you think they'll treat revolutionaries such as yourself?
Quote: [1]Regardless of what those whose support you have purchased tell you, true Intaki have no desire to see your ships in orbit around our planet. [2]Your ships will only bring more Federation ships.
[1] True Intaki are defined as how? [2] A lack of State ships will bring back the old Federation government. Which do you prefer?
Quote: This build up can only lead to more suffering by the Intaki people. Divert your fleet. Send them all to Providence. Perhaps the residents there will welcome you, but Intaki will not.
Of course you mean that the true Intaki will not.
Quote: We will not bow to you. We will not become drones in your corporate machine.
An old, tired argument with no basis in fact: The Intaki Sovereignty as an ally would be more beneficial to the State than a relatively unprotected arm brushing against an angry Federation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.17 04:12:00 -
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So by Intaki citizens, you mean Federation citizens? This is nothing more than outright propaganda and a collection of untruths, and I would suffer all to not believe I-RED's lies.
Even if these Intakis are serving with the occupying forces, they would be revoked of their citizenship status, and thus be seen as enemy sympathizers.
Take no notice of these lies. As the State occupation continues to be crushed, Intaki shall be next on the list of systems to be returned to rightful, democratic rule, and not the rule of a foreign corporation that is there to make a quick buck.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.12.17 04:25:00 -
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Edited by: Dex Nederland on 17/12/2009 04:25:04
Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores be returned to rightful, democratic rule, and not the rule of a foreign corporation that is there to make a quick buck.
If by "rightful, democratic rule" you mean the rule of the Federation corporations with the deepest pockets to buy off Senators and fund the best smear campaigns, then you would be accurate.
The Federation is ruled by your corporate greed just as much as the State, we are just more open about it.
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Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.12.17 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores So by Intaki citizens, you mean Federation citizens? This is nothing more than outright propaganda and a collection of untruths, and I would suffer all to not believe I-RED's lies.
Even if these Intakis are serving with the occupying forces, they would be revoked of their citizenship status, and thus be seen as enemy sympathizers.
Take no notice of these lies. As the State occupation continues to be crushed, Intaki shall be next on the list of systems to be returned to rightful, democratic rule, and not the rule of a foreign corporation that is there to make a quick buck.
Hypothesis: "By Intaki they must mean Federation Citizens." Argument: "But if they were working for the State, they wouldn't be Federation citizens anymore." Sane deduction: "He must mean Intaki that are not Federation aligned." Inhonores deduction: "He's lying!"
Hilarious. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.17 15:39:00 -
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All Intaki nationals are Federation citizens by default. While it is without a doubt many Federal citizens are under the employ of State corporations operating within sovereign Federation space, the use of Federal citizens in foreign paramilitaries is I-RED's attempt to use "human shields" in any retributive attacks by the Federal Defence Union.
This claim of using Federation citizens in Ishukone paramilitary assets is highly dubious, due to the fact that a sharp majority of the native Intaki system population are extremely unhappy about the state of affairs; their home system being sold off to the "highest bidder". Even if I-RED acquired "Intaki nationals" in their assets, they are no longer nationals at all, because their citizenship would be revoked for being employed, not by a foreign corporation, but by a foreign paramilitary force.
So, what I-RED means to say, is that they are using "traitors" to the Federation and the Intaki people in protecting their investment, calling them "Intaki nationals" to discourage further retributive force.
In the end, this point is rather moot, because the Intaki solar system will be liberated soon enough as the Federation continues its retaliation against the invasive, imperialist Caldari State.
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Val Erian
Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia
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Posted - 2009.12.17 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Val Erian on 17/12/2009 15:43:01 Ishukone Corporation is dismayed by the recent attacks on civilian and noncombatant assets, and is committed to securing the region on behalf of the Intaki citizenry, as well as the State.
Just about says it all then .:)
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Jyotmimana Karana
Intaki Pure
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Posted - 2009.12.17 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores All Intaki nationals are Federation citizens by default.
Given that the Intaki were robbed of their right to vote, I would argue that this statement is untrue. The Federation government has shown that it does not trust the Intaki and holds no regards for our natural rights. As such, I believe the case is clear that any ties the Intaki had to the Federation are voided and that sovereignty returns to the Intaki people.
Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores In the end, this point is rather moot, because the Intaki solar system will be liberated soon enough as the Federation continues its retaliation against the invasive, imperialist Caldari State.
Are you such a beklaand that you don't see the irony of your statement. The Federation disenfranchised the Intaki and now seeks to conquer them by force. Your presence is not wanted and your violent overtures make you just as invasive and imperialist as the Caldari soovari luring desperate Intaki into their service with promises of liberation.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.12.17 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana As such, I believe the case is clear that any ties the Intaki had to the Federation are voided and that sovereignty returns to the Intaki people.
Meanwhile, in the real world, the majority of the Intaki wish to remain with the Federation, Intaki is still a Federation-owned system, and the only issue is the Provist occupation of the system. -----
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Red Katherine
Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.17 19:44:00 -
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We applaud this decision and wish the Sertelensah Kenzertis success in their mission.
Incidentally, the Ammatar Free Corps houses extensive literature pertaining to methods for utilizing and indoctrinating a occupied population. We would be more than happy to share our knowledge and personal experience with the proper Ishukone-Raata authorities - all for the good of our brothers, the long suffering Intaki, of course.
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.12.17 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Red Katherine We applaud this decision and wish the Sertelensah Kenzertis success in their mission.
Incidentally, the Ammatar Free Corps houses extensive literature pertaining to methods for utilizing and indoctrinating a occupied population. We would be more than happy to share our knowledge and personal experience with the proper Ishukone-Raata authorities - all for the good of our brothers, the long suffering Intaki, of course.
To avoid any potential claims of rights violations and/or abuses, I believe the offer will be declined. My understanding of I-RSK's mission is that of asset security and system defense from known hostile entities - mostly identified and known pirates - and not the use or indoctrination of the population. |
Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:00:00 -
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What is I-RSKĘs stance on TLF?
What is I-RSKĘs stance on the ideology of a self-determined Intaki state, perhaps modeled around a Syndicate free-trade system or some such?
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Akira Revan
Caldari Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss What is I-RSKĘs stance on TLF?
What is I-RSKĘs stance on the ideology of a self-determined Intaki state, perhaps modeled around a Syndicate free-trade system or some such?
At this time I-RSK does not have any quarrel with the TLF this of course can change if the TLF makes an effort to disrupt Ishukone-Raata operations in the Intaki system.
We support the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directives stance toward a free Intaki State, that supports the same ideology that the ILF stands for.
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Jyotmimana Karana
Intaki Pure
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane Meanwhile, in the real world, the majority of the Intaki wish to remain with the Federation, Intaki is still a Federation-owned system, and the only issue is the Provist occupation of the system.
Listen, beklaand, and try to learn something. Federations do not "own" systems. Their members belong consensually. They agree to give up certain liberties and yield their sovereignty in exchange for protections and benefits.
Your information of current affairs on Intaki Prime is about as limited as your knowledge of basic civics.
I'd suggest that you put aside your imperialist Federal dogma for a few years, come and live on Intaki and study the teachings of the Idama. You would probably see things very differently.
But you've got a Gallente name, so you're probably impure anyway. You're probably better off to remain swaddled in your cocoon of ignorance where you can tell yourself that the Provists are the only problem facing your Federation.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana Listen, beklaand, and try to learn something.
The supreme pinnacle of irony, given your following statements.
Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana Federations do not "own" systems. Their members belong consensually. They agree to give up certain liberties and yield their sovereignty in exchange for protections and benefits.
Your information of current affairs on Intaki Prime is about as limited as your knowledge of basic civics.
And every poll in the past year has placed the majority of the Intaki as wanting to stay members of the Federation. Not so much.
Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana I'd suggest that you put aside your imperialist Federal dogma for a few years, come and live on Intaki and study the teachings of the Idama. You would probably see things very differently.
Hah! Shows how little you know. I was born on Intaki Prime, to Intaki parents, and I lived there for the majority of my life. My home city was the very model of synergy between Intaki and Gallente cultures.
Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana But you've got a Gallente name, so you're probably impure anyway
And here the bigoted little racist monster that lurks just inside this veneer of polite detachment you project rears its head. Expect to hear no more from me - you are obviously valueless. -----
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Jyotmimana Karana
Intaki Pure
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane Hah! Shows how little you know. I was born on Intaki Prime, to Intaki parents, and I lived there for the majority of my life. My home city was the very model of synergy between Intaki and Gallente cultures.
There is no synergy between Intaki and Gallente cultures. The Gallente culture is like a cancer that infects and corrupts. It eats away at the Intaki culture until there is nothing left, but Gallente where Intaki once was.
You and your parents are prime examples of this. You think you are co-existing with Gallente, but in truth you are Gallente. What was Intaki in you is gone.
Pure Intaki see this situation for what it is and revolt against it. We are the ones who will stand up and proclaim "Intaki for Intaki" we will not be made to into Gallente soovari or Caldari drones. We will fight back like these brave farmers and the dozen martyrs who gave their lives in protest of assimilation.
When we see one so young as yourself brainwashed and corrupted we must not allow ourselves to feel sorrow. Instead we turn our anguish into anger and let it strengthen our resolve to turn back the tide of cultural degradation and reclaim Intaki for Intaki.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana We will fight back like these brave farmers and the dozen martyrs who gave their lives in protest of assimilation.
Heh. Those brave farmers and martyrs are fighting against Caldari occupation and for re-integration with the Federation.
Only a small, marginalized, minority is on the side of independence (as noted in the second article). Even a smaller percentage are Quislings like Yuri Intaki who is now openly a member of the State Protectorate. When will the rest of the Quislings be open and honest about their support for Caldari statehood?
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Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius
Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana We will fight back like these brave farmers and the dozen martyrs who gave their lives in protest of assimilation.
Heh. Those brave farmers and martyrs are fighting against Caldari occupation and for re-integration with the Federation.
Only a small, marginalized, minority is on the side of independence (as noted in the second article). Even a smaller percentage are Quislings like Yuri Intaki who is now openly a member of the State Protectorate. When will the rest of the Quislings be open and honest about their support for Caldari statehood?
I'd watch your words about Yuri, friend, she has a long memory and a mean streak a mile wide.
As for your claims about the separatist minority, I grant that we have been dismissed historically, but those days are passing and the minority is not as small as you might think.
If the Intaki people, known for their slow and contemplative approach to the Universe can produce a pilot as violently tempered as Yuri or as unabashedly xenophobic as Jyotmimana, then I would suspect that current of dissent runs far deeper than you and other loyalists would like to admit.
Extremists don't spawn in a vacuum, they require the proper seeds to be sown and the right kind of cultivation to take root.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: X Gallentius on 17/12/2009 23:08:23 Yuri is a liar as well. She is now officially a member of the State Protectorate when she had previously stated that she would not assist them.
It is interesting to note that members of the Intaki Liberation Front continue to defend her traitorous behavior.
Quite different than the ILF's "official" position of neutrality in this war, and very much different than the "official" position of pro-independence.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Andreus LeHane on 17/12/2009 23:16:16 This is how all "Intaki Independence" groups tend to end up, I'm afraid - some (although no recent ones) even started with noble intentions, but eventually they all end up in the gutter - INTAKI UNION (I always wondered why they felt the need to shout the name every time they said it) ended up as pirates, and then sunk even lower, becoming Amarrian lapdogs assisting (in a moment of purest, truest irony) in the war to subjugate the Minmatar. The ILF's little more than a pro-State front and the (fortunately anaemic) Intaki Pure movement is, quite transparently, a racist soapbox and nothing more. -----
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: X Gallentius on 17/12/2009 23:51:25 Some fringe groups such as these quit trying to force their will on the majority and instead reintegrate themselves into society by doing good deeds for their community. But it does not seem to be the case for most of these groups. Instead they ally themselves with outlaws and occupiers. Sad, really.
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Vikarion
Caldari Chorus of Nephilim
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Posted - 2009.12.18 00:04:00 -
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The ILF is seen as pro-Caldari because the Gallente groups, on the whole, take the same attitude towards Intaki independence that they took towards Caldari independence: hard-line denial.
The State has no need or desire to annex Intaki, though we would like to develop the system and employ its people. This does not necessarily translate to governance, however, anymore than a Quafe station in Caldari space amounts to them governing our people.
The future of Intaki should rest with those who are Intaki, not with the Federation, and, hopefully, once this war is over, not with the State. Until then, however, the Caldari can be counted upon to treat them with more respect than an arrogant central government in Luminaire. --- |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.18 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vikarion The future of Intaki should rest with those who are Intaki
The majority of the Intaki wish to be part of the Federation. We invite you to leave now.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.18 02:47:00 -
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At approx. 0230 hours today, the Comet-class frigate EL-G Sentinel entered the Intaki system, to find that 7 pilots of the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive were currently flagged with 'Global Criminal Countdowns', thus identifying them as 'pirates' in the purest legalistic sense.
This indicates that I-RED have been interrupting militia activities by engaging FDU elements, the same way FDU have been disrupting Ishukone activities by engaging Ishukone elements. Who are the pirates now?
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.12.18 02:54:00 -
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Mr. Inhonores, your "copy-and-paste" method of political attack is severely unprofessional. Please keep comments like this to the discussion in which they are first addressed, lest your credibility be undermined on your own. |
Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.12.18 04:16:00 -
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Edited by: Dex Nederland on 18/12/2009 04:17:20
Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores At approx. 0230 hours today, the Comet-class frigate EL-G Sentinel entered the Intaki system, to find that 7 pilots of the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive were currently flagged with 'Global Criminal Countdowns', thus identifying them as 'pirates' in the purest legalistic sense.
This indicates that I-RED have been interrupting militia activities by engaging FDU elements, the same way FDU have been disrupting Ishukone activities by engaging Ishukone elements. Who are the pirates now?
If a pilot fires on another pilot with a moderate negative security status (0 to -5), isn't the attacking pilot flagged? Might this have been the case? Or perhaps a pirate was being repaired by a non-pirate entity and when the supporting, non-flagged ship was targeted and destroyed it resulted in the pilots being flagged?
Isn't this the burden of anti-pirate operations that the anti-pirate will have to risk security rating loss to engage the pirates?
What you described means that had STRIX decided to engage pirates (not war targets of State militia) first they would then be tagged with a "Global Criminal Countdown", thus pirates, and legal targets for EL-G, FDU, STPRO, etc.
You should consider potential alternatives to "I-RED must have shot at FDU to become criminal flagged."
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Ans Blix
Amarr Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.18 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ans Blix on 18/12/2009 05:27:36
Originally by: Yo****aka Moromuo Mr. Inhonores, your "copy-and-paste" method of political attack is severely unprofessional. Please keep comments like this to the discussion in which they are first addressed, lest your credibility be undermined on your own.
Is it not still relevant to this topic? I don't agree with the term "copy-and-paste" in this context either, the comment from Mr Inhonores in this case are his own words.
Originally by: Dex Nederland Edited by: Dex Nederland on 18/12/2009 04:17:20
If a pilot fires on another pilot with a moderate negative security status (0 to -5), isn't the attacking pilot flagged? Might this have been the case? Or perhaps a pirate was being repaired by a non-pirate entity and when the supporting, non-flagged ship was targeted and destroyed it resulted in the pilots being flagged?
Isn't this the burden of anti-pirate operations that the anti-pirate will have to risk security rating loss to engage the pirates?
What you described means that had STRIX decided to engage pirates (not war targets of State militia) first they would then be tagged with a "Global Criminal Countdown", thus pirates, and legal targets for EL-G, FDU, STPRO, etc.
You should consider potential alternatives to "I-RED must have shot at FDU to become criminal flagged."
Responding to speculation with more speculation, whilst trying to be condescending...
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Akira Revan
Caldari Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis
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Posted - 2009.12.18 05:51:00 -
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Edited by: Akira Revan on 18/12/2009 05:53:08 The engagement in question was against a known pirate organization (Not a FDU Organisation unless the FDU works with Advocated Destruction) based upon Ishukone-Raata standings, if you require the logs we are more then willing to hand them over in private.
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2009.12.18 08:30:00 -
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Once again, may I offer my support to Ishukone-Raata. The Gallente have shown their utter lack of respect for the rights of legitamate Caldari business interests. There is only one answer for those who would take by force a thing that they have no right to.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.12.18 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Death Once again, may I offer my support to Ishukone-Raata. The Gallente have shown their utter lack of respect for the rights of legitamate Caldari business interests. There is only one answer for those who would take by force a thing that they have no right to.
The same way in which you are attempting to impede the lawful reclamation of the Intaki system and surrounding systems? Do not think your association with known war criminal Yuri Intaki has not gone unnoticed. -----
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:15:00 -
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so then my next question is, if an I-RSK pilot and myself meet in Intaki space am I gonna get shot in the face? |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss so then my next question is, if an I-RSK pilot and myself meet in Intaki space am I gonna get shot in the face?
Probably not. Last night I, Lieutanent General X Gallentius, raided the Mordu's Legion escorts outside their station in Intaki in plain sight of one of an I-RSK pilot. They did not help the escorts.
These Mordu's Legion enforcers should know better than to trust the word of I-RSK pilots. No amount of isk is worth being abandoned when help is needed.
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Avel Kereka
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.12.18 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jakiin [1] True Intaki are defined as how?
I'd venture to say ethnicity, but most of us have seem to become more Gallentean in our thinking than the Gallente themselves in that regard.
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Akira Revan
Caldari Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis
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Posted - 2009.12.18 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Akira Revan on 18/12/2009 19:02:35
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss so then my next question is, if an I-RSK pilot and myself meet in Intaki space am I gonna get shot in the face?
While we are detailed to the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive our ROE slightly differ as we do not operate in Providence. Our KOS list is somewhat smaller and designed for the Placid Region, so no SF at this time will not be shot on sight until they interfere in Ishukone Operations.
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Probably not. Last night I, Lieutanent General X Gallentius, raided the Mordu's Legion escorts outside their station in Intaki in plain sight of one of an I-RSK pilot. They did not help the escorts.
Yet again the Gallente forces show their utter lack of respect for life.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.18 20:01:00 -
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The station guns would have fired if these were not valid war targets. Yet the station guns were silent. The lawful raids against valid war targets will continue.
It is sad that these young pilots from Mordu's Legion continue to put themselves in harm's way simply because their leaders want to line their pockets with isk. Maybe one day these pilots will realize their leaders are corrupt and the promises of protection by a certain Caldari corporation are false.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.18 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Akira Revan Edited by: Akira Revan on 18/12/2009 19:02:35
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss so then my next question is, if an I-RSK pilot and myself meet in Intaki space am I gonna get shot in the face?
While we are detailed to the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive our ROE slightly differ as we do not operate in Providence. Our KOS list is somewhat smaller and designed for the Placid Region, so no SF at this time will not be shot on sight until they interfere in Ishukone Operations.
so far I don't see a conflict on the Intaki issue...unless I missed something?
what would constitute interference in Ishukone Operations? Star Fraction has always been pro-Trade and Open Economy.
My person interest in the Intaki Movement is well known, and unless I am mistaken you are in favor of the Intaki leaving the Federation? |
Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2009.12.18 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane The same way in which you are attempting to impede the lawful reclamation of the Intaki system and surrounding systems? Do not think your association with known war criminal Yuri Intaki has not gone unnoticed.
The entire war that we are taking part in is legal, pilot. Both the Federation and the State signed up to it, and as far as I am aware it has not as yet concluded. Therefore I reject any claims that I am impedeing anything in an unlawful manner; I am simply fighting a war.
The Ishukone Corporation is not a legal part of this war, whatever spin and propaganda you may use to claim otherwise. Attacks on Ishukone are simply piracy and looting.
And I am curious to read the transcript of Yuri Intaki's trial, or what crimes she is accused of commiting. Until you can provide evidence that she is a war criminal, I shall continue to fly beside her.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.20 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: X Gallentius on 20/12/2009 15:44:34 FDU pilots are no longer instructed to kill Mordus Escorts as they have agreed not to attack us if we concentrate our efforts on the Ishkone Haulers. This is welcome as we did not like engaging our Intaki brothers - even though they have chosen a life of crime and their leaders have a different political outlook.
It seems the Mordus pilots have come to realize the false promises of I-RSK are just that, false. I personally have conducted raids against these forces over the past few days and there has been zero help given to the convoys by I-RSK pilots. In fact, they have only been in system one time - the first - and even then they did not assist the convoy.
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Akira Revan
Caldari Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis
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Posted - 2009.12.20 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius Edited by: X Gallentius on 20/12/2009 15:44:34 FDU pilots are no longer instructed to kill Mordus Escorts as they have agreed not to attack us if we concentrate our efforts on the Ishkone Haulers. This is welcome as we did not like engaging our Intaki brothers - even though they have chosen a life of crime and their leaders have a different political outlook.
I don't even think this is worthy of a response... Your attempts at propoganda are poor to say the least, and hurt the already spinning image of the FDU.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.20 20:41:00 -
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Heh. Killed another Ishkone hauler 2 minutes ago. Check the can outside the station. No I-RSK pilots in system. They are nowhere to be found except at the summit spouting propoganda of their own.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.21 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 21/12/2009 12:59:24
Originally by: Akira Revan I-RED's adherence to the NRDS ("Not Red, Don't Shoot") policy in Providence shall be upheld by I-RSK forces operating under Ishukone Corporation's auspices in the Placid region. Pilots shall not engage in acts of piracy, griefing, or unprovoked aggression; nor shall these pilots attack noncombatants.
We are enemies of the rulers of Providence and already considered fair targets by your "sister?" organization that has chosen the dishonourable and loathsome activity of holding space for the CVA on the benighted frontier. Does this mean you have inherited the Amarrian Holder's KOS lists for Placid region in any way shape or form?
Will your pilots fire on Free Captains of the Star Fraction in or outside of Providence if we destroy I-RSK vessels anywhere in space in fair payment of their prior unwarrented aggression against free captains (in direct contradiction of their espoused NRDS ideology I should point out).
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Akira Revan
Caldari Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis
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Posted - 2009.12.22 00:12:00 -
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Quote: We are enemies of the rulers of Providence and already considered fair targets by your "sister?" organization that has chosen the dishonourable and loathsome activity of holding space for the CVA on the benighted frontier. Does this mean you have inherited the Amarrian Holder's KOS lists for Placid region in any way shape or form?
Will your pilots fire on Free Captains of the Star Fraction in or outside of Providence if we destroy I-RSK vessels anywhere in space in fair payment of their prior unwarrented aggression against free captains (in direct contradiction of their espoused NRDS ideology I should point out).
The Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive overlooks our operations on a regular basis, this however doesn't give them the ability to dictate our policy unless it conflicts with Ishukone Corporation's policies. As for I-RSK we have no intention of operating in the Providence region, so our KOS list will be different from the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive.
Though I will state that you should watch your words toward our parent mega-corporations subsidiary Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive, I will not have Star Fraction derail our thread, and all I ask is that you show some respect and be polite.
I will also add that even though some entities will remain neutral to I-RSK, if they are KOS to I-RED for legitimate reasons we will not affiliate ourselves with the entity in any way.
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