It's quite the opposite. The threads go on because WBR and SOTF leadership aren't satisfied with their Aegis shield defense of "we like each other more than we like you, duh." - they want to also present themselves as respectable and loyal members of their respective militias. So, it's actually a desire to role play, when you cast criticism of their relationship as RP-inspired. So the other day, FIRST GENERAL is hotly indignant when it's suggested that WBR uses Minmatar alts to offensively plex Amarr systems - and then sYnc proudly declares that (occupancy-harmless) missioning is quite beneath her Minnie plexing alt. So on with the "we weren't fighting you, we were just repping the people you were fighting" defense of old. So on with the "what? There were Caldari on the field? :shock:" defense of today. The only defense they need is "we like each other more than we like you". This is how it actually is, and this is how it's understood by all other parties, but people still want to say "blarble blarble, we weren't there for you, our space-honor (which we don't care about) is shining and impeccable!".

But they don't believe their own BS enough to get angry with the Caldari for instantly killing that Pilgrim, so whatev'. The sole products of their RP-insecurity are these long threads where they put out flimsy-as-hell and unnecessary-as-hell bullshit just so that it can get called on and so that people like you can gasp about how :mad: and :RP: the bullshit-callers must be.

ya no whats funny. caldari are winning the war against the gallente.

to my knowledge, WITHOUT CAPS

You all care about system occupancy when you are winning.

Strange how it matters, doesn't matter, matters, doesn't matter etc etc depending on the situation.

I can tell you why the Gallente swapped over.
They could see that in 3-4 weeks they would be in a near unrecoverable position and instead of having the balls to admit they were losing - they switched to a winning side so they could pretend they hadn't lost their own space.

Stop kidding yourselves that it was for any other reason.
When a ship is sinking - the rats and insects always bail out 1st.

they were told on comms before the fight that they were expendable sacrificial lambs whose task was to defend Amarr wartargets.

I was however trying to point out that the first fit you linked really wasn't that bad especially in the context of how bad people fit, and if you were trying to insult Gallente with it, the Caldari (and many gallente ofc) fit much much worse.

In my books, there is a clear difference between suicide fleet and "suicide fleet where your own side expects you to die for the glory and benefit of your war targets, because we have bropact and stuff".

Maybe you can answer this with another "le gasp" comment on how can I be so adamant in my view that latter is something no self-respecting pilot should do.