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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2012.06.20 12:20:00 -
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Im sure plenty of you here also play Diablo 3, and you might also be aware that in the recent patch they tried their hardest to make the game utter crap, with great success.
Some people also learned some harsh life lessons to hillarious effect, beats the hell out of a $70 monacle
Fist - (Diablo forums) wrote:Attack Speed Nerf. Protect your rights as consumers
We need to state our objection as community on this huge change.
Blizzard can't and shouldn't nerf AS as much as 50% on items we have bought with REAL MONEY. This is way too much.
For example, i have spent around 300 euros for items with attack speed and now they are gonna change properties of items i have paid real money for in less than a week? Really?
Even the items are virtual, the money spent is pretty much REAL. Blizzard should have thought the consequences with the RMAH. They can't simply do whatever they want. We are the consumers and we have rights. Laws simply prohibit these kind of situations so PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!
Priorities... a virtual sword is never worth Gé¼300
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.06.20 12:49:00 -
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Its really funny that people think of them self as consumers. Funny word that.
Also funny that they actually bought Diablo III, and much more funny that they use the RL auction house at all. Should teach them all a lesson in buying into stupidity and greed.
Even more funny thinking that player run auctions should be a reason to not balance the game.
So many idiots in the world now a days, |
Nirnias Stirrum
Tr0pa de elite.
Against ALL Authorities
201
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:25:00 -
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wow that is just r.etarded. spending RL iskies on digital items to play a game with. |
Ituhata Saken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:26:00 -
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Well, they are definitely consumers in the business sense in that they are paying for an entertainment product and by playing, are consuming the content provided.
I haven't played D3 but I would never spend 70$ on a monocle so I would definitely never spend 300$ on an ingame item. That being said, I feel its worth pointing out there is a marked difference between a 70$ monocle that has no use other than decorating an avatar, and a 300Euro item that has a definite pay2win advantage.
And not that I'd play it, but I despise pay2win. Kind of why I dislike plex, someone can pay to get isk and economically that is winning, but I can live with it because at least there are no actual combat advantages provided.
So close... |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1046
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:28:00 -
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the gold auction house on Diablo 3 isnt pay-2-win per se, as all the items on sale are from player loot, its more of pay-2-not-grind
which is odd... as grinding seems to be the core basis of the game
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Ituhata Saken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:35:00 -
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Oh so its almost identical to plex. 
Well now it sounds like Blizzard should have balanced the game before rolling this live AH out.
So close... |
RubenX
The Drifters
26
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:44:00 -
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Stuff gets nerfed and people cry. Same ole same ole. |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:49:00 -
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Ituhata Saken wrote:Well, they are definitely consumers in the business sense in that they are paying for an entertainment product and by playing, are consuming the content provided.
I haven't played D3 but I would never spend 70$ on a monocle so I would definitely never spend 300$ on an ingame item. That being said, I feel its worth pointing out there is a marked difference between a 70$ monocle that has no use other than decorating an avatar, and a 300Euro item that has a definite pay2win advantage.
And not that I'd play it, but I despise pay2win. Kind of why I dislike plex, someone can pay to get isk and economically that is winning, but I can live with it because at least there are no actual combat advantages provided.
You know how auctions work? Just wondering, because that player bought it from another player, not blizzard. (Blizzard just happen to take a very nice % of that money.) I guess D3 would be a great game to RMT in, hack an item, sell directly for RL money. Easy.
Also, how can you "consume" content?
All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept and I am still surprised people actually want to try it. But then again, all the sheeple of the world are raised to be happy little "consumers" with no standards after all, just gobbling up whatever **** they are fed. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1046
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:51:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept...
 wat?
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1784
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:53:00 -
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What's really sad about it is people are spending that kind of cash on a PVE-only game. There's no competitive edge to be had, just a slight gain in the speed at which you kill the mindless mobs.
What's the point of playing PVE if you're going to just go ahead and spend cash to leap ahead to the best stuff?
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1046
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:54:00 -
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true.. i wish they released the game with a PVP game mode
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Ituhata Saken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:55:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:
You know how auctions work? Just wondering, because that player bought it from another player, not blizzard. (Blizzard just happen to take a very nice % of that money.) I guess D3 would be a great game to RMT in, hack an item, sell directly for RL money. Easy.
Also, how can you "consume" content?
All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept and I am still surprised people actually want to try it. But then again, all the sheeple of the world are raised to be happy little "consumers" with no standards after all, just gobbling up whatever **** they are fed.
I was misunderstood, it sounds exactly like plex, pay2notgrind.
That being said, if you watch a movie you have consumed the content. You can watch it again but for all intents and purposes you have paid for the movie and seen its contents. The exact same is true if you play a game, particularly a pve heavy one, when you explore, quest, and run dungeons and raids you are consuming that content, regardless of its replay value. This is why expansions exist in most mmo's, to provide new content for its players to consume before they get bored and wander off to a new game.
So close... |
Xenuria
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
537
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Posted - 2012.06.20 14:36:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Im sure plenty of you here also play Diablo 3, and you might also be aware that in the recent patch they tried their hardest to make the game utter crap, with great success. Some people also learned some harsh life lessons to hillarious effect, beats the hell out of a $70 monacle Fist - (Diablo forums) wrote:Attack Speed Nerf. Protect your rights as consumers
We need to state our objection as community on this huge change.
Blizzard can't and shouldn't nerf AS as much as 50% on items we have bought with REAL MONEY. This is way too much.
For example, i have spent around 300 euros for items with attack speed and now they are gonna change properties of items i have paid real money for in less than a week? Really?
Even the items are virtual, the money spent is pretty much REAL. Blizzard should have thought the consequences with the RMAH. They can't simply do whatever they want. We are the consumers and we have rights. Laws simply prohibit these kind of situations so PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS! Priorities... a virtual sword is never worth Gé¼300
I have been making insane amounts of cash on the RMAH... I have yet to spend any money on anything in that game, except for buying the game itself. It was a wise investment. One that has already paid for itself.
However it's a rat race once gold becomes purchasable on the RMAH everything is going to deflate FAST.
I might just buy a SSD with the money I got in my paypal from selling virtual gear to these morons.
Will consult for ISK |
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
7
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Posted - 2012.06.20 14:46:00 -
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Problem IMO with D3 is that I think it would have been better if Activision did not get their claws into Blizzard.
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Xenuria
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
537
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:23:00 -
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Viktor Fyretracker wrote:Problem IMO with D3 is that I think it would have been better if Activision did not get their claws into Blizzard.
Yes..
Activision is the antithesis of CCP...
Will consult for ISK |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:26:00 -
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Ituhata Saken wrote:Sidus Isaacs wrote:
You know how auctions work? Just wondering, because that player bought it from another player, not blizzard. (Blizzard just happen to take a very nice % of that money.) I guess D3 would be a great game to RMT in, hack an item, sell directly for RL money. Easy.
Also, how can you "consume" content?
All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept and I am still surprised people actually want to try it. But then again, all the sheeple of the world are raised to be happy little "consumers" with no standards after all, just gobbling up whatever **** they are fed.
I was misunderstood, it sounds exactly like plex, pay2notgrind. That being said, if you watch a movie you have consumed the content. You can watch it again but for all intents and purposes you have paid for the movie and seen its contents. The exact same is true if you play a game, particularly a pve heavy one, when you explore, quest, and run dungeons and raids you are consuming that content, regardless of its replay value. This is why expansions exist in most mmo's, to provide new content for its players to consume before they get bored and wander off to a new game.
Ah, I just never use consume in that way. I am old fashioned, and I play a game's PVE content ;)
To me "consume" only represents some marketing jargon that i want no part of (I think it is a devaluing term). "I consume food/drink" is the only way I will use it ;) |
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
7
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:32:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Viktor Fyretracker wrote:Problem IMO with D3 is that I think it would have been better if Activision did not get their claws into Blizzard.
Yes.. Activision is the antithesis of CCP...
Which is why EVE works, CCP is independent. They do not answer to some mega-conglomerate. Yes they do have investors I am sure but I am guessing they are not connected to any game destroying company like Activision or EA. |
Ituhata Saken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:33:00 -
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Quote:
To me "consume" only represents some marketing jargon that i want no part of (I think it is a devaluing term). "I consume food/drink" is the only way I will use it ;)
'I consume the corpses of my victims' is a fun way to use that word.
I kinda figured that was the way you were using it. I'm ok using a looser definition because I consider a car combusting gas to be consuming fuel. At that point the term defines usage and can then be applied more liberally. 
So close... |
Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
197
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:35:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Im sure plenty of you here also play Diablo 3, and you might also be aware that in the recent patch they tried their hardest to make the game utter crap, with great success. Some people also learned some harsh life lessons to hillarious effect, beats the hell out of a $70 monacle Fist - (Diablo forums) wrote:Attack Speed Nerf. Protect your rights as consumers
We need to state our objection as community on this huge change.
Blizzard can't and shouldn't nerf AS as much as 50% on items we have bought with REAL MONEY. This is way too much.
For example, i have spent around 300 euros for items with attack speed and now they are gonna change properties of items i have paid real money for in less than a week? Really?
Even the items are virtual, the money spent is pretty much REAL. Blizzard should have thought the consequences with the RMAH. They can't simply do whatever they want. We are the consumers and we have rights. Laws simply prohibit these kind of situations so PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS! Priorities... a virtual sword is never worth Gé¼300
A virtual pixel spaceship probably shouldn't be worth thousands either, but well there you have it
There should be a rather awesome pic here |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:46:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Sidus Isaacs wrote:All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept... wat?
This being the main reason: http://www.thefunnyblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/funny-9gag-diablo-iii-my-fathers-mastercard.jpg
If blizzard would just make a normal diablo without any of the RL cash involved I would have seen it as OK, still just a hack and slash i would not play, but at least not so disgusting. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1052
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:48:00 -
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i less than three that comic strip
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.06.20 16:35:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:i less than three that comic strip
Hmm?
Comic strip was just to illustrate my distaste in the RL money scheme blizzard went with. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1052
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Posted - 2012.06.20 16:37:00 -
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its still funny
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.06.20 20:54:00 -
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Aye, I just did not understand what you meant :) |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Verge of Collapse
640
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Posted - 2012.06.21 00:57:00 -
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I made 270 euros of the rmah, first day was a blacksmith plan that some pleb paid 75 euros for on buyout and the second thing I sold was a 1200-ish dps crossbow for 195 euros.
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies
I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Xenuria
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
537
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Posted - 2012.06.21 01:53:00 -
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that is pretty much how it works.
People with disposable income gravitate towards grinders like diablo 3 and wow.
Will consult for ISK |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1055
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Posted - 2012.06.21 10:11:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:Aye, I just did not understand what you meant :)
less than three
< 3
GÖÑ
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
pussnheels
418
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Posted - 2012.06.21 10:33:00 -
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A sad end to what was a great 2 games , the first diablo was great and diablo II with its expansion used to be one of my favorite games lvl 63 in hardcore was my record
I really looked forward to number 3 but when i heared the horror stories how blzzard had the intention to turn it into a money cow i changed my mind , reading all these whines about isproving i was right
I still fondly remember all their old games the original world of warcraft rts games and both diablo s. Sigh
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
Iberians.
17
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Posted - 2012.06.21 10:51:00 -
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I don't see anything wrong. It is like EVE. If you have time, you can grind and buy game time with game money (thus playing for free)
If you don't have time, but have money (as it happens to be) you can avoid grinding for money. (I have never sold a Plex cos I like missioning, but I have bought LoL champions and skins)
And If you have time and skill, just grind D3 and make a living from it :D
The only problem is, in the end the offer will grow and the demand will shrink, and prices will be much lower.
And for the OP, tell the D3 forum warrior that next time he should read the LoA before spending 300$ in a virtual sword. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1055
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Posted - 2012.06.21 10:55:00 -
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Otrebla Utrigas wrote:And If you have time and skill, just grind D3 and make a living from it :D
The new patch made it pretty much impossible to grind in the game.
Its a rare thing at the moment to loot more money than it costs to repair your armor.
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
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