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Wayward Daughter Swords of the Righteous	Posted - 2009.12.24 18:39:00 - [1] Not one to mince words. Here it is: the pilot Leoline opened fire on me with his Imperial Navy Slicer in the Halmah system at approx 18:30. Communication was blocked and I have yet heard a reason why he chose to engage me. I made best my best effort to simply avoid firing on him entirely by evading his attacks for several minutes. I returned fire only after my tank was beginning to fail. I took him down to structure, then stopped firing. I never had him warp scrambled: he was free to flee, and did after a few more seconds. There were other members of the militia present to see the engagement, and we all felt a sense of shame at this man's actions.
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2009.12.24 20:03:00 - [2] All of the CONCORD-regulated militias are full of pilots not dedicated to the war, but instead seek free, cheap kills by going after their 'comrades'. It's unfortunate, but they exist. Just keep on your toes.
Graelyn Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.12.24 20:15:00 - [3] nods -------
Little Jack Minmatar Neurotic Battle Bunnies	Posted - 2009.12.24 20:44:00 - [4] This is not surprising at all.....it figured that leoline failed so hard against reds he'd eventually attempt to pvp against blue's....considering he'd have half a chance of getting away with it if their overviews were set correctly and not showing him.
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.24 23:46:00 - [5] I hear there is alot of that going on these days, Amarr militia members shooting at neutrals and apparently blues too... I think it's good to get it out in the open and discuss it instead of sweeping it under the carpet... Regards
Lucius Vindictus Amarr Scorpion Cartel	Posted - 2009.12.25 00:04:00 - [6] Originally by: Mazca Lopez I hear there is alot of that going on these days, Amarr militia members shooting at neutrals and apparently blues too... I think it's good to get it out in the open and discuss it instead of sweeping it under the carpet... Regards What would be the point of sweeping it under the carpet? It's hardly a secret that the militia's are rife with this type of scum. ----- Scorpion Cartel Website
Sophie Starsparrow Minmatar Starfish Operating Syndicate Independent Faction	Posted - 2009.12.25 00:12:00 - [7] I'm shocked.
Alissa Crew Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2009.12.25 03:27:00 - [8] Too shocked to hear that.
Cadirro DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.25 04:14:00 - [9] Originally by: Alissa Crew Edited by: Alissa Crew on 25/12/2009 03:44:51 Too shocked to hear that. I have also been notified that the treacherous corp No.Mercy has taken out an Absinthe Brothers (Alt Corp) POS at Gekutami VIII - Moon (Dread Guristas Control Tower). Along with this came a great deal of original BPO's. No.Mercy managed to scoop up an Ocra and Chimera Original BPO's and numerous others valued near 40 billion ISK in BPO's total. On top of a said 8-10 billion ISK valued POS that was also taken out with all of its modules. Why do we allow No.Mercy to continue this random acts of piracy, that now seem to extend not only to neutral corps, but neutral corp that belong to the supposedly friendly and allied corp of Absinthe Brothers. I feel if this is left un-checked and let swept under the carpet. No.Mercy will take advantage of other corp with in the Empire and militia. I say we get a swift answer from them now, or we brand them as the priates that they are. Just the tip of the iceberg. No.Mercy has been doing this for quite some time now, covered by those members of the Amarr Militia who knew it and passively supported by the CVA. Did you really believe they would spare such a juicy target, just because the owner is a member of the militia they will soon abandon to start a new life in Pure Blind? I'm not surprised, just pleased that they - finally - can no longer hide their pirating from public eyes. --- Star Fraction Public - Follow us on YouTube!
Tomahawk Bliss Minmatar DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.25 04:52:00 - [10] next time when SF or TFS or news points out the truth, instead of hiding your heads in the sand you take heed? shocking i know, but really the proof has been made public for ages now on their piracy. only idiots would truth a No.Mercy pilot at their backs. Battlestar, care to make a comment?
Anneka Tong B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2009.12.25 11:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Alissa Crew Too shocked to hear that. All well and good, but what is your interest in this particular issue? Being as you are a very recent graduate from the University of Caille? Is militia politics now on the syllabus there? Interesting. I like genetic engineering Past projects: The Radioactive Sheep Current project: Cybercow
Leopold Caine Amarr Ghost Festival Naraka.	Posted - 2009.12.25 12:21:00 - [12] Oh, yet another one. With militias having an open arms policy on recruitment of their capsuleer representatives, one just has to expect these kind of things to happen. Really, one can only wonder how many Guristas informants are infiltrated inside the Caldari militia, for example... keep your eyes open, and trust no one, miss Daughter. ____________________________________________________________
Adeptus mecanicus Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's CURSE.	Posted - 2009.12.25 17:59:00 - [13] poletics are so mutch easy¦r when flying under the guide lines of the cartel and serpentis sighs and in the past the thukkers. trust your corp fist your alliance second.......the rest is usualy a leap of faith Recruitment
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.25 18:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Alissa Crew Edited by: Alissa Crew on 25/12/2009 03:44:51 Too shocked to hear that. I have also been notified that the treacherous corp No.Mercy has taken out an Absinthe Brothers (Alt Corp) POS at Gekutami VIII - Moon (Dread Guristas Control Tower). Along with this came a great deal of original BPO's. No.Mercy managed to scoop up an Ocra and Chimera Original BPO's and numerous others valued near 40 billion ISK in BPO's total. On top of a said 8-10 billion ISK valued POS that was also taken out with all of its modules. Why do we allow No.Mercy to continue this random acts of piracy, that now seem to extend not only to neutral corps, but neutral corp that belong to the supposedly friendly and allied corp of Absinthe Brothers. I feel if this is left un-checked and let swept under the carpet. No.Mercy will take advantage of other corp with in the Empire and militia. I say we get a swift answer from them now, or we brand them as the priates that they are. No Mercy is pulling the plug on the empire and are leaving to grow and thrive on their own. Old news. I Am however looking forward to watching PIE and CVA's communication divisions deal with this one
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2009.12.25 19:04:00 - [15] Maybe No.Mercy is paid well by Republic Agents for that. Don't blame them for fighting for money. They are not fighting for ideals. Loyalist of the year... Alica is snickering and turning off the com before she breaks into laughter. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Wayward Daughter Swords of the Righteous	Posted - 2009.12.25 20:08:00 - [16] Update: the apparent miscommunication has been rectified. Problem resolved. Amarr Victor.
Cadirro DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.25 22:00:00 - [17] Originally by: Wayward Daughter miscommunication So thats what we call it now. Interesting - I guess the POS attack mentioned above was a miscommunication then too? --- Star Fraction Public - Follow us on YouTube!
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.26 00:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Cadirro Originally by: Wayward Daughter miscommunication So thats what we call it now. Interesting - I guess the POS attack mentioned above was a miscommunication then too? I guess someone has asked Battlestar Crusader to take a timeout in his quarters while Garst is being Snug out of the back door... Either way this is going to be hillarious to follow
Cadirro DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.26 01:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Mazca Lopez Originally by: Cadirro Originally by: Wayward Daughter miscommunication So thats what we call it now. Interesting - I guess the POS attack mentioned above was a miscommunication then too? I guess someone has asked Battlestar Crusader to take a timeout in his quarters while Garst is being Snug out of the back door... Either way this is going to be hillarious to follow No no, you get that all wrong. Actually i thought about it and i think this POS and its contents were a farewell-gift from the generous BC to No.Mercy, an appropriate compensation for their limitless loyalty and righteousness over the last months. So no miscommunication at all, the Amarr Empire stands tall amongst the ruins of moral decay, and everyone's happy. Except Battlestar, maybe. Just maybe. *Cadirro turns off the camera stream as he's no longer able to keep up the serious look and bursts into laughter --- Star Fraction Public - Follow us on YouTube!
Icarus3 Gallente DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.26 01:45:00 - [20] I would offer my condolences to Battlestar/Other victims/future victims of these "friendly" attacks but the fact remains that you have all been warned. Numerous times. Time and time again you chose to ignore the truth that is Jade Constantine. I suggest you all join each other in prayer. Ask your false gods what you've done as a collective to deserve such punishment and humiliation. When you're left without answers connect to the -SF- communication channels. There and only there can you become right with the universe.
Bashiri No.Mercy	Posted - 2009.12.26 03:22:00 - [21] IGM doesn't feel well without N-M name in it?
Sahriah BloodStone Caldari No.Mercy	Posted - 2009.12.26 12:35:00 - [22] To all those blowing the No.Mercy/AB-C POS situation out of the water. I was pretty ticked when i first read this thread and decided to do some investigating. For all those who will listen to the truth. First of all Garst is on leave planetside, he has not been around for quiet a few days and probably isnt even aware of this incident. Second it was not the AB-C corporation that No.Mercy attacked but a corp that we did not know was heavy associatied with AB-C. Had this information been known the attack would never have happened. For security sake many people hide their contacts with others corps so they can not be taken advantage of. Unfortuntly in this case we were not informed in time. Third. The process of compensation and reimbuisement for this mistake is underway, having personally confirmed this with AB-C parties Now take the truth and stop blabbering, or dismiss it because it makes you feel better. On the issue of infighting within the Milita. Its happened in all four empires, unfortunete but a inescapeable truth ---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone No.Mercy
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.26 12:57:00 - [23] Edited by: Mazca Lopez on 26/12/2009 12:59:30 Edited by: Mazca Lopez on 26/12/2009 12:58:53 Oh I see, so this particular case of gaining profit through shooting and stealing neutral, industralist assets, shall be reimbursed because it turned out to belong to Amarrian posterboy Mr. Crusader...
Cadirro DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.26 13:46:00 - [24] Mazca you were right. It is hilarious to follow. "Here you got your money back, but we'll keep one BPO for the trouble. We only did it to show you that your POS isn't safe!" --- Star Fraction Public - Follow us on YouTube!
Tomahawk Bliss Minmatar DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.26 17:33:00 - [25] so wait, but I saw a post by Garreck saying there is no "proof" they are doing this type of Empire based piracy... I wonder what will be used as cover up this time? They still Blue to CVA even though CVA claims to be opposed to Piracy in the Empire? last time I checked they were Blue to Epitoth, what that changed?
Ralnik Mutineers	Posted - 2009.12.26 20:13:00 - [26] Edited by: Ralnik on 26/12/2009 20:14:23 Originally by: Sahriah BloodStone To all those blowing the No.Mercy/AB-C POS situation out of the water. I was pretty ticked when i first read this thread and decided to do some investigating. For all those who will listen to the truth. First of all Garst is on leave planetside, he has not been around for quiet a few days and probably isnt even aware of this incident. Second it was not the AB-C corporation that No.Mercy attacked but a corp that we did not know was heavy associatied with AB-C. Had this information been known the attack would never have happened. For security sake many people hide their contacts with others corps so they can not be taken advantage of. Unfortuntly in this case we were not informed in time. Third. The process of compensation and reimbuisement for this mistake is underway, having personally confirmed this with AB-C parties Now take the truth and stop blabbering, or dismiss it because it makes you feel better. On the issue of infighting within the Milita. Its happened in all four empires, unfortunete but a inescapeable truth This is just too awesome. CVA and the Amarr Militia were warned that Garst and co were using your militia as a meat shield and essentially a recruiting office. Meanwhile they pirated/ransomed high sec corps whom were doing business in Amarr Empire space. The Amarr Militia kept praising their great Garst and CVA turned a blind eye to NM's actions that even violated their own rules. Now it turns out NoMercy has pirated a fellow high profile's Amarr Milita corp high sec alt POS. I can't wait for the "opps, we accidentally your POS" post from Garst. We will obviously find out soon that AB-C were working with the Minmatar Militia so it's all ok and NoMercy will prevail becoming a system holder in Providence. Here I thought it was just the failed attempt on the POS in Auga, as to why we haven't seen Garst and NoMercy around lately. Too funny..TBH.
Sahriah BloodStone Caldari No.Mercy	Posted - 2009.12.27 00:00:00 - [27] Originally by: Ralnik CVA and the Amarr Militia were warned that Garst and co were using your militia as a meat shield and essentially a recruiting office. Meanwhile they pirated/ransomed high sec corps whom were doing business in Amarr Empire space. The Amarr Militia kept praising NoMercy/Garst and CVA turned a blind eye to NM's actions that even violated their own rules. Now it turns out NoMercy has pirated a fellow high profile's Amarr Milita corp high sec alt POS. I too wonder what excuse will be delivered to cover up this one.. Many people 'do buisness' in the Amarr Empire pilot. Amarr, caldari, gallente, minmatar. Hell pirates and members of the pirate factions. Do you really think the Amarr Empire or CVA keep tabs on every little corporation that enters their space? You need to learn the way things work in New Eden. For all anyone knows the corporations we've attacked were Sani Sabik, or Angels. They could be minmatar supporters. Do you know this? No. Do we? No. The fact is is that corporations who are loyal to the empire find a way to make themselves known by their actions. Only by being known do they gain any protection, a fact that has been more then apparent throughout history. CVA have no say in the Empires workings. They protect providence and judge us and everyone else on what we do there. The fact is, is that we abid by their laws in their space, so they leave us be. If you want to complain go and complain to the Empress. DO you really think if we've been so terrible that she would let us just prey on 'innocent' corporations? And Star Fraction. Oh where do i start. Those high and mighty who hold themselves up as great defenders of the weak and pathetic Minmatar race. It was Star Faction who preached that CONCORD sanctioned those wars, and how very right they were, just as CONCORD sanctioned these wars. The ONLY difference my friends is that your opinions of right and wrong are different. Besides...shouldnt all those against the Amarr Empire be thanking us if you think we are injuring the Empire? Whats more important to you? Damaging your enemy or trying to make sure the whole universe sees you as right? Guess that shows how much unity your cause has. Whats funny is that this one accidental act, we probably did more damage then Star Fractions whole campain. Infact, let me see here. According to Star Fractions OWN killboards they did roughly 17.5 billion isk in damages in a campain that lasted over a year. And according to this thread we did over 40bil isk effectivly. How amusing. ---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone No.Mercy
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.27 00:57:00 - [28] * The Cosmopolite chuckles... Dear me, someone is getting agitated. I am not that concerned with the question of damage inflicted by the Star Fraction during our recent campaign but I will note that the brigand Bloodstone quotes a figure that falls far short of the truth. People can consult our publicly available combat database for themselves if they are interested to discover the true figures. What I find telling is that the gangster Bloodstone boasts of the damage inflicted by No.Mercy against a fellow Amarrian militia corporation, while suggesting that acts of brigandage and loot-taking against people operating in Amarr space are justified unless and until people identify themselves as Amarrian crusader-supporting entities. This is a policy that might be termed NCSI: Not Crusader, Steal It. Except, in truth, No.Mercy will steal from fellow crusaders if they can get away with it. Sources suggest that Battlestar Crusader was so mortified and embarrassed by the affair that he chose to request restitution without going public about the fact that this 'accident' is simply another example of No.Mercy preying on neutral corporations for their own enrichment. Others suggest that the leader of ABC was actually willing to keep this quiet, even lacking a positive outcome for himself, for the good of the 24th Imperial Crusade. If true, the latter would at least render the unfortunate Battlestar noble in his poverty. Possibly the wronged party will shed light on the facts, we shall see. In such an event, I wonder if the damage control operatives that infest the militia like mealworms in a 3-month-old loaf will denounce him as a 'clonejack' run by the Star Fraction? After all, every person who has provided evidence that No.Mercy are no more than tin-pot robber barons, lacking even the dubious distinction of loyalism, and backed up what we have said has been dismissed as such, or liberally smeared with innuendo and insinuation of similar. I must say, in that connection, I have no idea what a 'clonejack' is except that use of the word in anger, as it were, is essentially diagnostic of a form of sad paranoia û a bizarre form of cognitive dissonance that seems to call up a vast conspiracy in the poor, deluded minds of the sufferers, while at the same time causing them to rant and ululate as to the impotence of their enemies. Ah well, no matter, the crusaders can continue to deny the presence of a necrotising infection in their innards, even as their tongues swell and turn black, all they wish. And the 'liege lords' of Providence can pretend that their protection-racket regime is not a haven for thieves, extortionists and pirates all they like. Certainly, the Amarrians and Caldari who worship power and rapine for their own sake will continue to hoot and bray in their cause. This is understood. Meanwhile, those with eyes to see, ears to hear and minds cleared of statist and imperialist cobwebs will quietly, or otherwise, draw their own conclusions. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Little Jack Minmatar Neurotic Battle Bunnies	Posted - 2009.12.27 04:08:00 - [29] Spare everyone the RP Bloodstone....its very clear that your corp couldnt give a ** for the militia or anyone associated with it. Your little wardec exercise has only been to fatten the coffers for your move to 0.0....and never had anything to do with the whole 'oh but they're help the matar / gallente blah blah blah' Everyone seems to have accepted this but the individuals within NM...so why keep up the charade? 3/4 of the militia and those associated with it know what NM is about...and after the AB-C alt dec, the continued rants about how good NM is and how ** everyone is on your mumble and vent servers....and who could forget that lovely forum security you have. Btw how will NM actually make isk after the move...considering u might actually have to shoot a tower thats actually online....and judging by that very very small list of capital capable pilots you have on your internal forums...i can only wait to see it attempted without the 'meat shield' you enjoy right now... Btw..who got the 10% finders fee for the AB-C alt corp...pure lolz.
Azaziel Rei	Posted - 2009.12.27 04:18:00 - [30] Lets examine the facts here and avoid the spin. Fact: The corporation in question was not an Amarrian Militia corporation but rather one with close business ties to an Amarrian Militia Corporation. Ties that were maintained secret and were not reveled until after the operation was complete. Fact: The destruction of the POS was sanctioned by CONCORD and thus fully legal. Piracy is defined as one who robs in space or plunders planetside without the commission of a sovereign nation or ruling body. As this action was sanctioned by CONCORD it does NOT meet the definition of Piracy. Fact: No.Mercy Corporation was contacted by AB-C at the request of the attacked corporation revealing the error. Fact: No.Mercy Corporation upon identification of the error agreed to pay full restitution via the trusted agent of AB-C. Fact: Checking of your "publicly available combat database" with regard to Operation Castrato (located here on Gal Net: http://www.fugitiveninja.com/killboard/?a=home ). reveals that Ms. Bloodstone's figures are accurate. If your combat database is in error I suggest you discuss that with your maintenance technicians and correct the issue as soon as possible. Perhaps you simply made a mathematical error in your records. I'm told that such issues are frequent when using Brutor database technicians. If that is the case I suggest you provide the correct figure with linked Gal Net reference vice simply dismissing what is obviously a researched fact with spin. Fact: A gangster is defined as a criminal who is a member of a gang. Ms. Bloodstone is not a criminal as defined by CONCORD security status and thus once again does not meet the definition of your words. Perhaps your command of language is lacking and you meant to use the term "Mercenary" which may mean "Hired for service in a foreign army." Since Ms Bloodstone is Caldari that word would be appropriate. Based on these facts I submit the following opinion. Ms. Bloodstone has submitted a well researched factually accurate and logical argument. You Cosmopolite have instead submitted so much useless and personally embarrassing drivel. You really should be ashamed of yourself for even speaking. Respectfully, Azaziel Rei Imperial Major
Azaziel Rei	Posted - 2009.12.27 04:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Little Jack Spare everyone the RP Bloodstone....its very clear that your corp couldnt give a **** for the militia or anyone associated with it. Your little wardec exercise has only been to fatten the coffers for your move to 0.0....and never had anything to do with the whole 'oh but they're help the matar / gallente blah blah blah' RP? What exactly are you talking about Brutor? I think you may have skipped your Vitoc injection and are perhaps halucinating. Please ask your Holder to administer the dose and return to this discussion once you know where you are. Azaziel Rei
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.27 05:34:00 - [32] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 27/12/2009 05:35:06 Originally by: Azaziel Rei Fact: Checking of your "publicly available combat database" with regard to Operation Castrato (located (snipped illegal killboard link to the wrong killboard)) I think I'm beginning to understand why you No.Mercy pilots are delusional. You do realize we stopped using that particular combat database a long long time ago right? If you (and ms Bloodstone) were to assess the correct and up to date figures you'd find a rather different balance of destruction wrought on your 24th Crusade interests. Not that I imagine you'd care much any more having turned wolfshead and hilariously gone to dinner on your own. True Knowledge
Sahriah BloodStone Caldari No.Mercy	Posted - 2009.12.27 06:52:00 - [33] Originally by: Jade Constantine I think I'm beginning to understand why you No.Mercy pilots are delusional. You do realize we stopped using that particular combat database a long long time ago right? If you (and ms Bloodstone) were to assess the correct and up to date figures you'd find a rather different balance of destruction wrought on your 24th Crusade interests. Not that I imagine you'd care much any more having turned wolfshead and hilariously gone to dinner on your own. My apologies if my mistake ruffled Star Fractions feathers. If you wish to correct something you could always link us the correct site and i would have been happy to correct myself but i went and found it myself. You are wrong Jade, i care very much for facts, not pointless banter. So to humbly correct myself (hopefully i get it right this time) according to you its 151 billion. So to put myself straight we did roughly 1/4 of the damage you did in a year, in one day. Yeah i still find that amusing. To Mr. Cosmopolite. I do not boast and im hardly agitated, i am simply acknowledging the facts. Boasting is a rather pointless endevour im sure you'll agree. I also never stated that it was 'justified' if the corporation is not publicly known as Amarrian, i simply stated that in today's society being publicly known as an Amarrian Corporation gives more protection then not, which is the truth. Your twisting of words is not appreciated. What i stated, if you payed any attention at all, is that it was sanctioned by CONCORD therefore making it a legal act. The exact same thing Star Fraction used against the Amarrian Militia. If everything was all 'right and good' No.Mercy would be punished by the Empire and Star Fraction would have been at war with the entire Militia instead of being able to pick at one or two corporations at a time at their choosing. Life is unfair, many people need to learn to deal with that fact. To Mr Jack. I do believe you misunderstand the reason for the exsistence of the IGS, i suggest you go and look it up. Apart from that and your apparent rage she smirks, if No.Mercy did not care for the Militia or the corporation associated with AB-C then we would not be even considering reimburisement for our mistake so i fail to see your perspective on that. If you refer to the other wardecs, they had nothing to do with the Militia and were not associated with the war effort to our knowledge. I do not speak for anyone else but myself. People can believe what they want, they are all entitled to their opinions. There will be those that hate us and those that like us, as with all entities. Comms and forum security are not my concern so i wont bother with that. And Isk? well ive made alot more money from looting Minmatar ships then i have lost. There are always plenty of ways to make money. I am glad however that you believe you know the full composition of our fleets. Pat yourself on the head, you're such a smart puppy. ---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone No.Mercy
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.27 15:02:00 - [34] So i guess noone is safe from No.Mercy in highsec or other. Unless ofcourse you are mates or can fight back
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.27 15:50:00 - [35] * The Cosmopolite laughs aloud... I refer those confused as to where our up-to-date and publicly-available combat database is located to the Star Fraction comms portal link contained in my signature file. From there it is but a click away through a clearly labelled link. So much for Bloodstone's 'research' and so much indeed for Azaziel Rei's claim of a 'well researched factually accurate and logical argument'. Rei presents as 'facts' not only a gross error on Bloodstone's part, compounded by Rei's own failure to research the matter properly, but also interpretations and definitions that are subject to debate. For instance, while I have not gone into such specifics as 'piracy' it is a fact that the CVA, for example, does not recognise a CONCORD war as justifiable cover for what it would regard as 'piracy'. Further, it is of no concern to me who CONCORD considers a criminal or not. Those who engage in racketeering and theft for their enrichment as a gang are gangsters as far as I am concerned. Indeed, the Star Fraction cares not a jot for CONCORD and have no difficulty with using a corrupt and morally degenerate form of sanctioned warfare for our own purposes while denouncing CONCORD as a plague. As we have said many times, we would wish to have the restrictions on us being in open war with all the crusader corporations lifted. I am therefore neither embarrassed nor ashamed by my words and stand by them, subject to correction as to the veracity of what some sources have claimed by those actually affected by No.Mercy's thieving. As to Bloodstone's high dudgeon over what her words can be taken to suggest, I fear I am by no manner of means in sympathy with her. I have not claimed for Bloodstone statements other than what she has said. I have simply said, quite openly, that her words suggest to me certain things. So when she says that 'corporations who are loyal to the empire find a way to make themselves known by their actions' and that 'only by being known do they gain any protection', it appears to me that she is describing a policy whereby all are prey in No.Mercy's eyes until proven otherwise. I am not really sure why Bloodstone seeks to deny this. Unless her corporation is not yet ready to leave for the Northern Outer Worlds and fancies it might yet entice a few more dupes from the ranks of the crusaders to bulk out their gang of wolfsheads and buccaneers. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Bashiri No.Mercy	Posted - 2009.12.27 15:51:00 - [36] Originally by: Mazca Lopez So i guess noone is safe from No.Mercy in highsec or other. Unless ofcourse you are mates or can fight back SO when will you fight back?
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.27 15:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Bashiri Originally by: Mazca Lopez So i guess noone is safe from No.Mercy in highsec or other. Unless ofcourse you are mates or can fight back SO when will you fight back? Agress and you shall see, for now i am content watching you getting smaller and smaller in the horizont...
Sahriah BloodStone Caldari No.Mercy	Posted - 2009.12.28 11:25:00 - [38] Originally by: The Cosmopolite * The Cosmopolite laughs aloud... As to Bloodstone's high dudgeon over what her words can be taken to suggest, I fear I am by no manner of means in sympathy with her. I have not claimed for Bloodstone statements other than what she has said. I have simply said, quite openly, that her words suggest to me certain things. So when she says that 'corporations who are loyal to the empire find a way to make themselves known by their actions' and that 'only by being known do they gain any protection', it appears to me that she is describing a policy whereby all are prey in No.Mercy's eyes until proven otherwise. I am not really sure why Bloodstone seeks to deny this. Unless her corporation is not yet ready to leave for the Northern Outer Worlds and fancies it might yet entice a few more dupes from the ranks of the crusaders to bulk out their gang of wolfsheads and buccaneers. The Cosmopolite So you openly critize for not obtaining the correct facts, and yet you twist my words to 'suggest' something they are not. Oh yes very clever, unfortunetly they are not very good at fooling anyone with a IQ more then a Fedo. ---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone No.Mercy
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.28 13:28:00 - [39] Could just be me, but the silence of your amarrian brothers in arms, who so far haven't been shy to defend your honor, speak volumes.
Alfa Lavala No.Mercy	Posted - 2009.12.28 15:16:00 - [40] Firstly, Snore. Giant who cares. You have an empire POS with billions of isk in it in a corp with 3 people what can you expect? 24hrs war dec gives plenty time to make contact if you're meant to be a friend/allied. Also, who keeps BPO in a POS? Explain to me why you'd EVER need to do that in empire? hello, remote copying/research from stations... NM forums should be https and I keep nagging but webslag is too lazy to get on it. We've fought for amarr and it was nice and hello kitty online but it got boring so we decided for a change. Plus only 1% of our members care about RP. As for making isk in 0.0, now that we have breached 100 billion we don't need to worry about that for a while anyway.
Bashiri No.Mercy	Posted - 2009.12.28 15:31:00 - [41] long live the queen
Theophilas Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2009.12.28 16:58:00 - [42] Oh good, another IGS about something else hijacked and turned into a thread about No. Mercy. Is this honestly what EVE RP has come to? Star Fraction sucks.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.28 17:40:00 - [43] Originally by: Sahriah BloodStone Originally by: The Cosmopolite * The Cosmopolite laughs aloud... As to Bloodstone's high dudgeon over what her words can be taken to suggest, I fear I am by no manner of means in sympathy with her. I have not claimed for Bloodstone statements other than what she has said. I have simply said, quite openly, that her words suggest to me certain things. So when she says that 'corporations who are loyal to the empire find a way to make themselves known by their actions' and that 'only by being known do they gain any protection', it appears to me that she is describing a policy whereby all are prey in No.Mercy's eyes until proven otherwise. I am not really sure why Bloodstone seeks to deny this. Unless her corporation is not yet ready to leave for the Northern Outer Worlds and fancies it might yet entice a few more dupes from the ranks of the crusaders to bulk out their gang of wolfsheads and buccaneers. The Cosmopolite So you openly critize for not obtaining the correct facts, and yet you twist my words to 'suggest' something they are not. Oh yes very clever, unfortunetly they are not very good at fooling anyone with a IQ more then a Fedo. I am not interested in fooling anyone. I am simply saying what your words suggest to me and you are welcome to provide some context or new information that would render that suggestion improbable. At present, I find it very probable. Do though correct the impression I have gathered from your remarks if you wish to. Please do tell us if Amarr, Caldari or transnational corporations operating in CONCORD security-rated space are safe from the depredations of No.Mercy whether they advertise their loyalty to Empire or State or not. You might also, for completeness, tell us if Amarr, Caldari or transnational corporations operating in CONCORD security-rated space are safe from the depredations of No.Mercy if they obey the laws of Empire or State whether they advertise their law-abiding status or not. You have said that corporations who are loyal to the empire only gain any protection by being known as such. To my mind such words require no twisting whatever to suggest that corporations who are loyal but prefer to remain 'under the radar', as it were, have no protection from the ransacking attentions of No.Mercy. It is, after all, the plain and simple corollary of what you have said. We've also had clear evidence that this is so in the shape of the 'accidental' looting of a loyalist-affiliated research and development corporation's starbase. Was the research in this case also at fault? Or was there in fact no effort made to discover if the corporation in question was loyal or law-abiding? You can disabuse me and others of the idea that No.Mercy will prey first and ask questions later by telling us that in fact No.Mercy will not predate on loyal or law-abiding Amarr, Caldari or transnational corporations in Amarr and Caldari space and take all reasonable steps to ensure that it does not 'accidentally' do so again. If you won't do that I think that I am fairly able to continue finding your words suggestive in the context of No.Mercy's well-established reputation for brigandage. I also think others will be able to make their own minds up on this. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
hmmv50cal Caldari	Posted - 2009.12.28 20:15:00 - [44] Originally by: Alissa Crew Edited by: Alissa Crew on 25/12/2009 03:44:51 Too shocked to hear that. I have also been notified that the treacherous corp No.Mercy has taken out an Absinthe Brothers (Alt Corp) POS at Gekutami VIII - Moon (Dread Guristas Control Tower). Along with this came a great deal of original BPO's. No.Mercy managed to scoop up an Ocra and Chimera Original BPO's and numerous others valued near 40 billion ISK in BPO's total. On top of a said 8-10 billion ISK valued POS that was also taken out with all of its modules. Why do we allow No.Mercy to continue this random acts of piracy, that now seem to extend not only to neutral corps, but neutral corp that belong to the supposedly friendly and allied corp of Absinthe Brothers. I feel if this is left un-checked and let swept under the carpet. No.Mercy will take advantage of other corp with in the Empire and militia. I say we get a swift answer from them now, or we brand them as the priates that they are. God forbid they gasp need isk to continue! Also, SF alt detected.
Ralnik Mutineers	Posted - 2009.12.28 21:35:00 - [45] Edited by: Ralnik on 28/12/2009 21:36:32 Edited by: Ralnik on 28/12/2009 21:35:54 duh wrong topic..

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