How are you going to ambush someone in high sec? You don't get aggro from abandoned wrecks, and even if you did, the aggro wouldn't be against the other salvagers.

Not that I'm entirely against scanning down wrecks, but none of that abandons site nonsense. If you want to let people scan wrecks add it as an option when using combat probes, and just give them a tiny signature.

Do you realize how many signatures that would add to a mission hub? My god...I would never be able to scan out a WT again due to my client crashing as it tried to load them all.

let see.... bunch of catalysts fitted with long point/sebo maybe and when say ambush well you are pritty much talking about ganking when it comes to hs

which you can get from scanning down mission runners while their still doing said site, the idea of the abandon site option means especialy when combined with using the ships onboard scanner instead of HAVING to use probes to locate them it then appears for ANYONE who wants to go for the wrecks, and as stated gives people the chance to also setup ambushes/ganks if they wish...

People aren't going to suicide gank a noctis/hurricane over a single site's salvage.

which you can get from scanning down mission runners while their still doing said site, the idea of the abandon site option means especialy when combined with using the ships onboard scanner instead of HAVING to use probes to locate them it then appears for ANYONE who wants to go for the wrecks, and as stated gives people the chance to also setup ambushes/ganks if they wish...

If you want to ninja salvage learn to scan.

yep just like some people dont use tier 3 BCs to gank hulks which is isk inefficent and costs them money, actualy YES THEY DO, so would people gank a noctis just for the KM value in say a destroyer or 2? YES

who said anything about wanting to ninja salvaging? as i pointed out if people want to scan down wrecks atm they can do so while the mission runner is in the site, the reason I'm suggesting this idea in the first place is:
1: it allows people to abandon an entire site if they dont want to loot/salvage it and allow others to do so, as apposed to ninja salvaging which is usualy done not just for isk but also to bait said mission runner into agressing
2: it removes a whole bunch of objects which sit anything upto 2h in a system till they despawn, which from a server side view also reduces the number of objects the server needs to draw/handle in a given system and reduces the load on that system/node and helps reduce lag especialy in busy mission hubs.

A Noctis is worth ~80m ISK, a hulk is 250m+ and a 100m ISK reward is given for every ten you kill. Go figure.
And have you ever noticed how the Noctis is already a commonly used ship that doesn't get suicide ganked?

And have you ever noticed how the Noctis is already a commonly used ship that does get suicide ganked?

1) This is pretty useless, as it is already possible via ninja salvaging. Hence my comment. It doesn't really add anything to the game except for a messy mechanic that won't get used./quote]

ONLY if said mission runner is still in the site, and secondly just because you think it wont get used doesn't mean others wont take advantage of it, either to loot/salvage the site or be sat in the site waiting already, quite sure plenty of other people can work out how to take advantage of this idea :)
and who says this is a messy idea? as said 3rd option is to add a 3rd type of sig/anom beacon that people can find specialy if all thats needed is the ships onboard scanner to find them and warp to them same as anoms? plus that way people can set their filters to just remove the abandoned site sigs or are you suggesting by messy CCP if they impliment the idea are liable to do a messy job of it?

[quote=Simi Kusoni]2) Storing a bunch of data about items on a grid that isn't even loaded is easy. What lags out mission/trade hubs is drones, missiles, turrets, asset list retrieval, market checks and transactions etc.

Those aren't suicide ganks :/

You don't gank in a rapier or assault frigate.

Those aren't suicide ganks :/

You don't gank in a rapier or assault frigate.

I'm against having that available to the normal ship scanner.
At least let the people put in the effort of using scan probes when they want to profit of left-behind riches, abandoned or not.

There's pro's and cons to being scanable with probes only, being only said people with probe launchers etc would be able to find, meaning less people likely to turn up for it, pro on that would be more chance of someone getting a whole site to themselves.
scanable by ship scanner means more people at the sites ie more competition for the site salvage/looting and more chances for people to arrange ambushes etc

potentially you could end up with multiple people warping into said sites and possibly fighting over them, or even setting up ambushes for people warping to them...
and also means people have the option to salvage sites that mission runners do not want to stop to salvage etc.

I agree, make them scannable, and add filters so noone is overwhelmed by an extra 1k signatures.