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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.01 11:55:00 -
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This ship is just crap, I see no reason why would anybody use this , it is around 100m in contracts but with a little more isk you could buy much better ships.
This ships problems: -no clear role , dunno what this ship wanted to be ,it is clearly shield+ energy gun user but what should its advantages be? I cant name any
-so slow it is slower than the zealot, it cant be used to keep range against other cruisers not even talk about other pirate cruisers -poor pg , oh you fit up mwd +3 turrets + LSE + then only 1 pg hungry module you can choose (med neut/med cap booster/another lse) the problem is it should be able to fitt all 3 at the same time imho , only being able to fit one will make it lacks in tank,cap or anti frig ability which isnt acceptable with a pirate cruiser -sensor res way too low, 275 vs 423 cynabal , this should be increased so it can actually point something similar sized -agility this must be a joke without mwd on it needs 6.4s ,cynabal 3.6s -cap it is way to cap dependant and it has too small carbo bay for boosters -dps so if this ship wanted to be a dps(no clr role) ship then it has way too low dps -slot layout 3 lows are too few for any cruisers , usual fits use 1dc then it can have only 2 damage mods? why? -drone bay 15m3? no way that is usefull for anything at least in cruiser class, 3 small drones arent good enough against frigs , it is more a nuisance than an actuall advantage
solutions: lets assume this ship was intended for kiteing at 20km doing dps - more speed like 200m/s,also could be a little more agile - higher scan resolution 350 would do - -1 high slot +1 med +1 low slot , at least +1 low slot - more pg like +150 - 25m3 drone bay - larger cargo bay for cap charges
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Cheiftan
Minmatar Shinryaku
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Posted - 2010.03.01 16:41:00 -
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Wow you guys are trying to argue with Merin?
Guys i seriosly sugest you check her killboard before you tell her whats good and bad, merin is one of the most famous phantasm pilots in game... Freedom will come through respect not the barrel of a gun |

God's Secret
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Posted - 2010.03.01 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cheiftan Wow you guys are trying to argue with Merin?
Guys i seriosly sugest you check her killboard before you tell her whats good and bad, merin is one of the most famous phantasm pilots in game...
I take that as sarcasm, even tho i actualy did check his kb stats and they look pretty sad for an early 2006 character.. even so i don't know and don't care who this guy is nor what he has to say, the discussion is about the Phantasm which continues to suck major balls given the class it represents, the Pirate Cruisers..
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.03 03:39:00 -
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some tweaks needed Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |

Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.03.06 00:23:00 -
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Either/and:
1. moar faster 2. moar damage 3. moar lowslot 4. moar shield (LIKE IT USED TO HAVE!)
And more cargo hold for the cap boosters it lives on. Seriously, it eats them up faster than a fat man through doughnuts.
It's not terrible, it's just not as amazing as it used to be either. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate' |

Sunset Rogue
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Posted - 2010.03.06 20:37:00 -
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It needs another slot period. Phantasm only has 14 slots while all other pirate cruisers have 15. I would personally vote for a forth low.
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SSteejans
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Posted - 2010.03.07 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: SSteejans on 07/03/2010 14:12:52
The Phantasm: It has the lowest total HP of all the pirate cruisers. It has 754 less shield than the Gila, and only 106 more shield HP compared to its armor tanking cousins. It has a 66.5% higher shield recharge time compared to all the other pirate cruisers. It is tied for the lowest scan resolution. It is the slowest pirate cruiser. It has only 14 slots where all the other pirate cruisers have 15.
How is this fair? (yes a couple of these attributes are just luck of the draw being the lowest, but some of those(the ones in bold) are just wrong. The poor Phantasm needs to be re-adjusted to be on par. Basically keep the minor buffs and reverse the severe nerf it got in Dominion. _______________ if CCP's logs really never show anything, i have to wonder, do they even have logs? |

HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.10 08:43:00 -
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another 340 armour might work Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |

EURIPODES
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Posted - 2010.03.10 16:30:00 -
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I was exited the other day when i saw a phantasm in contracts for 110mil until i tried to fit it. I did the best i could and decided to give it a test run on a lvl 3 miss((Cutthroat competition). and yes i know it's specifically designed for pvp,or at least it was and doing anything that carebearish in a pirate ship is a sin.)and karma or CCP caught up with me. it could'nt tank it. So anyone want to buy a phantasm?
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Roffle Roffle
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Posted - 2010.03.10 20:28:00 -
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Oh hey my thread is still here. Yeah, it could also do with more capacitor. It can't run beams and a shield tank with this little. Also there's nothing you can actually use the highslots for when not in web range (which you shouldn't be).
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Jintra Jin'tak
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Posted - 2010.03.11 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jintra Jin''tak on 11/03/2010 19:39:07
Originally by: Naomi Knight This ship is just crap, I see no reason why would anybody use this , it is around 100m in contracts but with a little more isk you could buy much better ships.
This ships problems: -no clear role , dunno what this ship wanted to be ,it is clearly shield+ energy gun user but what should its advantages be? I cant name any
-so slow it is slower than the zealot, it cant be used to keep range against other cruisers not even talk about other pirate cruisers -poor pg , oh you fit up mwd +3 turrets + LSE + then only 1 pg hungry module you can choose (med neut/med cap booster/another lse) the problem is it should be able to fitt all 3 at the same time imho , only being able to fit one will make it lacks in tank,cap or anti frig ability which isnt acceptable with a pirate cruiser -sensor res way too low, 275 vs 423 cynabal , this should be increased so it can actually point something similar sized -agility this must be a joke without mwd on it needs 6.4s ,cynabal 3.6s -cap it is way to cap dependant and it has too small carbo bay for boosters -dps so if this ship wanted to be a dps(no clr role) ship then it has way too low dps -slot layout 3 lows are too few for any cruisers , usual fits use 1dc then it can have only 2 damage mods? why? -drone bay 15m3? no way that is usefull for anything at least in cruiser class, 3 small drones arent good enough against frigs , it is more a nuisance than an actuall advantage
solutions: lets assume this ship was intended for kiteing at 20km doing dps - more speed like 200m/s,also could be a little more agile - higher scan resolution 350 would do - -1 high slot +1 med +1 low slot , at least +1 low slot - more pg like +150 - 25m3 drone bay - larger cargo bay for cap charges
+1 for great justice. More speed,cargo, 25m¦ Drone bay and +1 low. The Cap-thingy -as far as I'm concerned- is it's broken backbone and kinda the thing to manage when fitting, so not that much of an issue. Speed, drones (/frig def) and lows are.
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Kal Shada
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Posted - 2010.03.22 19:46:00 -
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http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1179731/page/1
Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II
Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x3
and they're cheap compared to the other pirate ships,u just have to know how to fly them
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