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Nieste
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Posted - 2009.12.27 13:50:00 -
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Do people usually get their Orca to be the hauler for mining? Ice mining in this case. I ask because the Orca is giving out gang bonuses for mining so the orca pilot is occasionally docking then won't the bonuses become screwed up?
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Sha'Aryn
Minmatar Northern Star Inter-Galactic Industries PROject Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.27 14:07:00 -
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Of course, it's always best to have someone with an indy to do the hauling. But if I'm solo-mining with an alt, I have no problem with using the Orca as a hauler. Any disruption of bonuses is temporary and negligible, considering the amount of ice or ore the orca can carry. It's worth it.
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Julepalm
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Posted - 2009.12.27 14:38:00 -
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And theres also the case of the Orca hauling to a pos
Unloading a nice pile of dark glitter each time with no loss of bonuses :p
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.27 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Julepalm And theres also the case of the Orca hauling to a pos
Unloading a nice pile of dark glitter each time with no loss of bonuses :p
Except that the ganglink modules stop when the Orca enters warp.
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Unity Love
Caldari Dissonance Corp Undivided
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Posted - 2009.12.27 14:49:00 -
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Ice mining should be fine to use it, just tell your miners to get close to ze roides.
I wouldn't use it with ore as people will lose the extra range once you go into warp and this could bugger up cycles.
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Nieste
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Posted - 2009.12.27 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nieste on 27/12/2009 14:53:30 I find a weird bug happens sometimes, not sure if the orca warping in and out every now and then is causing it, but my mining lasers will get stuck in their cycle and not drop any ore into my cargo atall. I have to turn the lasers off then on again to fix it, if i'm not paying attention this can accumulate 2-3 cycles of ore up and when I stop them i'll receive all of the ore at once, overloading my cargo and wasting some of it.
Anyone else experienced this, know if the mining bonuses being constantly turned on/off is what causes it?
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Jokiller Gerius
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.27 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Nieste Edited by: Nieste on 27/12/2009 14:53:30 I find a weird bug happens sometimes, not sure if the orca warping in and out every now and then is causing it, but my mining lasers will get stuck in their cycle and not drop any ore into my cargo atall. I have to turn the lasers off then on again to fix it, if i'm not paying attention this can accumulate 2-3 cycles of ore up and when I stop them i'll receive all of the ore at once, overloading my cargo and wasting some of it.
Anyone else experienced this, know if the mining bonuses being constantly turned on/off is what causes it?
i have seen the same thing happen when ice mining into my orca's cargo hold without any warping
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Nieste
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Posted - 2009.12.27 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Nieste on 27/12/2009 16:48:59
Originally by: Jokiller Gerius
Originally by: Nieste Edited by: Nieste on 27/12/2009 14:53:30 I find a weird bug happens sometimes, not sure if the orca warping in and out every now and then is causing it, but my mining lasers will get stuck in their cycle and not drop any ore into my cargo atall. I have to turn the lasers off then on again to fix it, if i'm not paying attention this can accumulate 2-3 cycles of ore up and when I stop them i'll receive all of the ore at once, overloading my cargo and wasting some of it.
Anyone else experienced this, know if the mining bonuses being constantly turned on/off is what causes it?
i have seen the same thing happen when ice mining into my orca's cargo hold without any warping
How much m3 cargo space did you have while this happend? In the mackinkaw I mean.
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Korliko
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Posted - 2009.12.28 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Korliko on 28/12/2009 00:00:34
Originally by: Nieste Edited by: Nieste on 27/12/2009 14:53:30 I find a weird bug happens sometimes, not sure if the orca warping in and out every now and then is causing it, but my mining lasers will get stuck in their cycle and not drop any ore into my cargo atall. I have to turn the lasers off then on again to fix it, if I'm not paying attention this can accumulate 2-3 cycles of ore up and when I stop them I'll receive all of the ore at once, overloading my cargo and wasting some of it.
Anyone else experienced this, know if the mining bonuses being constantly turned on/off is what causes it?
I found this a lot since the Dominion patch. To me it seem to have something to do with the mining modules bonus and turning them off in mid cycle then back on again. Not sure though.
And letting my strip miners run the full cycle, even if the roid. only has half a cycles worth or ore, letting the asteroid pop on it's own seems to mess up my targeting arrangement (sometimes). I target one type by rage, closest roid to furthest. that gets messed up.
Think this is something for Issues thread I guess.
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Doctor Grugon
Caldari The Space Vikings
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Posted - 2009.12.28 23:17:00 -
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To take into account the strip miners range bonus I start with the roids farthest out. That way when the Orca is full there is no problem with roids being too far way.
I have not seen the problem with the cycles getting messed up though. Of all the universes in the multiverse you had to fly into mine. |

Saphire Minx
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Posted - 2009.12.29 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Saphire Minx on 29/12/2009 00:35:13 Edited by: Saphire Minx on 29/12/2009 00:34:02 I have also seen this problem with the cycle not dropping ice in the cargo hold and have to stop then restart them. Once they are restarted I get all the ore that seems to be sitting in thin air appears.
I also have an ORCA question about the Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization. My main character is set as the fleet booster and is also the fleet commander, with Mining Forman Link active. I am ice mining with my ALTS and do not see any change in the Ice Harvester duration. Are you actually suppose to see a change in the Activation/Duration Time which is displayed under show info attributes tab.
What should I be looking for that shows me that everything is good and that the bonus is being applied to the other members of the fleet.
Cheers
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Xessej
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Posted - 2009.12.29 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Saphire Minx Edited by: Saphire Minx on 29/12/2009 00:35:13 Edited by: Saphire Minx on 29/12/2009 00:34:02 I have also seen this problem with the cycle not dropping ice in the cargo hold and have to stop then restart them. Once they are restarted I get all the ore that seems to be sitting in thin air appears.
I also have an ORCA question about the Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization. My main character is set as the fleet booster and is also the fleet commander, with Mining Forman Link active. I am ice mining with my ALTS and do not see any change in the Ice Harvester duration. Are you actually suppose to see a change in the Activation/Duration Time which is displayed under show info attributes tab.
What should I be looking for that shows me that everything is good and that the bonus is being applied to the other members of the fleet.
Cheers
More than likely you're not getting the bonus due to someone being missing in teh command structure. For a fleet booster to give out the bonus there has to be a correctly skill flet commander, at least one correctly skilled wing commander and at least one correctly skilled squad commander.
It's a lot simpler to have the orca pilot set as squad commander and squad booster and to leave the upper echelons empty. as long as you op contains less than 11 pilots you can shove them all in one squad.
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Nieste
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Korliko Edited by: Korliko on 28/12/2009 00:00:34
Originally by: Nieste Edited by: Nieste on 27/12/2009 14:53:30 I find a weird bug happens sometimes, not sure if the orca warping in and out every now and then is causing it, but my mining lasers will get stuck in their cycle and not drop any ore into my cargo atall. I have to turn the lasers off then on again to fix it, if I'm not paying attention this can accumulate 2-3 cycles of ore up and when I stop them I'll receive all of the ore at once, overloading my cargo and wasting some of it.
Anyone else experienced this, know if the mining bonuses being constantly turned on/off is what causes it?
I found this a lot since the Dominion patch. To me it seem to have something to do with the mining modules bonus and turning them off in mid cycle then back on again. Not sure though.
And letting my strip miners run the full cycle, even if the roid. only has half a cycles worth or ore, letting the asteroid pop on it's own seems to mess up my targeting arrangement (sometimes). I target one type by rage, closest roid to furthest. that gets messed up.
Think this is something for Issues thread I guess.
I can now confirm it has nothing to do with command bonuses going on and off, or with cargo overflowing. It just happens for seemingly no reason atall. Your ice harvester just stops bringing in ice for no reason even though it is activated.
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Saphire Minx
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Posted - 2009.12.30 21:17:00 -
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Thanks Xessej, Works like a charm. Can clearly see the effects of Mining Laser Opt on other fleet members. I followed your advice and made everyone in the same squad with booster as squad commander. Cheers
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Mona X
Caldari Polish Task Forces C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.12.31 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Unity Love
I wouldn't use it with ore as people will lose the extra range once you go into warp and this could bugger up cycles.
Ir's a shame that ORE never bothered to add some engines to barge's and exhumer's bluepr...
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.12.31 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nieste Edited by: Nieste on 27/12/2009 14:53:30 I find a weird bug happens sometimes, not sure if the orca warping in and out every now and then is causing it, but my mining lasers will get stuck in their cycle and not drop any ore into my cargo atall. I have to turn the lasers off then on again to fix it, if i'm not paying attention this can accumulate 2-3 cycles of ore up and when I stop them i'll receive all of the ore at once, overloading my cargo and wasting some of it.
Anyone else experienced this, know if the mining bonuses being constantly turned on/off is what causes it?
If you start a mining cycle and don't have a cycle time bonus, and then mid-cycle you get a cycle time bonus, the cycle still ends in the normal amount of time (as this is pre-calculated), but you get an extra amount of ore instead.
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Nieste
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Posted - 2009.12.31 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Nieste Edited by: Nieste on 27/12/2009 14:53:30 I find a weird bug happens sometimes, not sure if the orca warping in and out every now and then is causing it, but my mining lasers will get stuck in their cycle and not drop any ore into my cargo atall. I have to turn the lasers off then on again to fix it, if i'm not paying attention this can accumulate 2-3 cycles of ore up and when I stop them i'll receive all of the ore at once, overloading my cargo and wasting some of it.
Anyone else experienced this, know if the mining bonuses being constantly turned on/off is what causes it?
If you start a mining cycle and don't have a cycle time bonus, and then mid-cycle you get a cycle time bonus, the cycle still ends in the normal amount of time (as this is pre-calculated), but you get an extra amount of ore instead.
No, that's not it atall, i've seen this bug happen on the very first cycle and our mining bonus pilot was sat next to us with his modules on the whole time. Ore just doesn't come in atall but the miners appear as though they are working, then if you cancel the mining, the ore you were supposed to get will appear.
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Minotan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.31 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Saphire Minx Thanks Xessej, Works like a charm. Can clearly see the effects of Mining Laser Opt on other fleet members. I followed your advice and made everyone in the same squad with booster as squad commander. Cheers
Keep in mind you can always check if you are giving bonuses by going to the fleet window and looking at the symbol at the far left under the My Fleet tab. If its a red x you arent giving bonuses, and if its a green check then you are. It also flashes whenever you open the window.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.12.31 23:54:00 -
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I use the Orca for hauling when ice harvesting - the time it takes to dock, unload, undock and warp back to the belt is usually less than two cycles. It takes about 30 cycles from both Hulks to fill the Orca, so the impact on harvesting efficiency is negligible.
On the other hand for mining operations I prefer having a dedicated hauler, if the belt we're harvesting is larger than double the Orca's carrying capacity.
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