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Ticks
Minmatar
Pro Players Inc.
Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2009.12.30 04:31:00 -
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Alright for those of you that might be too low in security status to go anywhere above 0.5 this one might be of interest. I am proposing that CCP allow for a possibility of pod pilots to buy back (bribe concord) thier sec status, just like people can put bounties on other pilots this would allow players who might get tired of being a pirate of the -10 persuasion to try out a new side of the game that has been released. I don't really know if it would be that big of a deal to incorporate this but i was thinking to possibly make it like a punishment if someone goes negative and wants to use the service i.e. 100million isk per +1 increase. Wante to see what everyone else thinks about this. I think its promising
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Aqriue
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Posted - 2009.12.30 04:48:00 -
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EVE is all about the consequences of your actions. If you can buy sec status, why can I not buy skills with isks that do not require 3.5 weeks to train? Also, have you ever considered you already buy back sec status by ratting? I hear the conversion of a BS ammo round averages about 100 isk per shot and can result in a few hundred thousand isk return in bounty along with a positive sec status hit.
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Ticks
Minmatar
Pro Players Inc.
Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2009.12.30 05:31:00 -
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Putting aside, your obvious sarcasm about the subject. Yes ratting is a way to get your sec up and when you are talking about sec status to skill points they aren't the same thing. Can't compare apples to oranges. And the money spent on the sec status increase is just absorbed back into eve pixels and you can go on to further the eve experience via industry, pve, trading, mining. Only people who are truly negative will have a problem with this cause until a dev says that it utterly upsets the balance of a perfect symbiotic relationship in eve then i believe its a solid idea, so lets keep the sarcasm to a minimum on me and talk about the idea...yes i know about ratting
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MasterCeremony
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:15:00 -
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Aqri is right that this is a game of consequences. But being able to bribe CONCORD is quiet appealing 
However, it would be too easy to just pay concord, and it would also be easily exploited since pirates could just kill freely in low sec etc. and lose sec. status but then immediately buy it back. This wouldn't make sense and it would basically be exploiting the original system.
Therefore, You should be allowed to buy sec status back, however either with exponentially increasing buyouts OR if after you have bought back sec. status from concord, or any other faction, and you continue to behave as a pirate losing sec. you will no longer be eligible for bribing.
YET ANOTHER WAY!!! Eve could bring back the smuggling system in a way. A character would be able to train a skill something along the line of "un-detected movement in empire" where a criminal would be able to slip under the noses of concord or other factions security. If caught the criminal would either be shot OR if the criminal has connections trained high or fast talk and has a high amount of charisma, the criminal may be able to bribe the officer on the spot.
anyways those are my thoughts on it. And maybe ccp will bring back some stuff, as well as make the stuff they already have better and make more sense.
-Mc
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:41:00 -
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are you the friend of pesets?
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Ticks
Minmatar
Pro Players Inc.
Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2009.12.30 18:58:00 -
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 Originally by: darius mclever
are you the friend of pesets?
No I'm just a big fan of this idea. Still don't see a problem with it.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.12.30 19:28:00 -
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Is used to be that way, it didn't work and was abolished. That was before suiciding. With that in fashion it would work even less well.
I don't think you'll ever see this again.
Podkilling other pirates perhaps? But then there's the issue with the -10 alt whipping boy...
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.12.30 21:18:00 -
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why do i have the feeling all that "i want to buy me out of my sec status problems" has something to do with the upcoming hulkageddon. coincidence?
If you need your sec status to gank hulks ... work yourself up the hard way! :D
Buying yourself out of the problem would make regaining sec status too easy and not enough of a penalty for the actions that took you down to -10.
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Czert ElPrezidente
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Posted - 2009.12.31 00:07:00 -
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I aggre with buyng back of security ONLY if you pay 150% of damage you done with pirating - e.q you blow up ship which cost 300m with cargo cost 1,5b - so to byu back security status for destroing THIS SHIP ONLY you must pay 450m + 2,25b.
After all, concord have all reports of your crimes, so it will be very easy explot by profiting with priracy say 350m per day and only payng 100m per week to buy security status back.
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Ticks
Minmatar
Pro Players Inc.
Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2009.12.31 08:29:00 -
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So I'm guessing I'm only going to get people who get killed or ganked by pirates to respond to this thread isn't that just dandy. Anyway putting aside the fact that everyone with something negative to say about security buy back which they will probably never use so what does it matter to them anyways. How about we put a twist on it. Use it like the nueral remap, one time a year a pod pilot can buy them selves a maximum of +5.0 sec status leaving the rest of it to a "hard working individual,"to work back up.
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Reggie Stoneloader
JAFA Trade and Manufacturing Cooperative
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Posted - 2009.12.31 08:49:00 -
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Nah, buying sec status is too easy, and since player income varies greatly, it would make sec status trivial to some while leaving the options for others unchanged.
A revamp of sec status in general is what's called for in order to really deal with the current population size and state of low-sec combat. I'll unabashedly direct attention to the mummified thread in my sig as one option, but there are lots of other ideas floating around on this issue.
In general, sec status offers a penalty for preying on the weak in low-sec, and it's not satisfactory, because it deals with it through NPC meddling in all but the most extreme cases. This not only makes the repercussions quantifiable and circumventable (trade alts, suicide ganking, ratting in safe 0.0, etc.), but it effectively prevents player-driven security throughout the galaxy, since anti-pirates lose sec for repelling raiders in low-sec, and no outlaw ever shows his face in high-sec, for obvious reasons.
No to buyback, because it's clumsy and unevenly applied, but yes to re-examining the security status situation in general.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.12.31 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ticks
So I'm guessing I'm only going to get people who get killed or ganked by pirates to respond to this thread isn't that just dandy. Anyway putting aside the fact that everyone with something negative to say about security buy back which they will probably never use so what does it matter to them anyways. How about we put a twist on it. Use it like the nueral remap, one time a year a pod pilot can buy them selves a maximum of +5.0 sec status leaving the rest of it to a "hard working individual,"to work back up.
actually. no ... i just grind myself up from -4.4 as my CEO doesn't like me being that close to be shot on sight. :)
so i know what kind of pain it is ... but i also see the downside of people with fat RL wallets cashing in enough GTC to constantly buy back their sec status to gank people in highsec. atm the grind factor is limiting that a bit.
so as the potential of abuse is too huge we have to grind back our sec status. what region do you use for it normally?
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Ticks
Minmatar
Pro Players Inc.
Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2009.12.31 10:16:00 -
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actually. no ... i just grind myself up from -4.4 as my CEO doesn't like me being that close to be shot on sight. :)
so i know what kind of pain it is ... but i also see the downside of people with fat RL wallets cashing in enough GTC to constantly buy back their sec status to gank people in highsec. atm the grind factor is limiting that a bit.
so as the potential of abuse is too huge we have to grind back our sec status. what region do you use for it normally?
People aren't too bright around these forums everyone seems to think someone is talking to them when you say something. lots of arrogant people out there i guess. anyways i'm sure you're who or what you say you are but i really don't care what you had to do or what you're ceo of. cause i'm the ceo of goons and i'd bet everyone believe that. anyways ok so the main complaint about this idea is people who make too much rl money could abuse it. anything else...should we put a salary cap on the people who play eve...no one who makes more than 20k a year can play and must live in a trailer park
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.12.31 10:39:00 -
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I just said that buying out of sec status problem makes it too easy and people will mostlikely abuse it.
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Forge Lag
Jita Lag Preservation Fund
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Posted - 2009.12.31 11:44:00 -
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OP, what about you go play some cash shop game, where you can break the rules and pwn n00bz if you pay enough.
"Real men play badminton, deep diving is for pussies."
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Czert ElPrezidente
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Posted - 2009.12.31 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ticks
So I'm guessing I'm only going to get people who get killed or ganked by pirates to respond to this thread isn't that just dandy. Anyway putting aside the fact that everyone with something negative to say about security buy back which they will probably never use so what does it matter to them anyways. How about we put a twist on it. Use it like the nueral remap, one time a year a pod pilot can buy them selves a maximum of +5.0 sec status leaving the rest of it to a "hard working individual,"to work back up.
Remaping souds interesing, but I ask WHICH you trade your sec rating for ? ISK isnt solution (for mayny reason told here), mayby if trade it for standing with races..then it will be interesing.
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