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The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:30:00 -
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SA pilots were spotted and attack PA members in venal today. SA pilots from the Minmatar Freelancers. Pa reports show only one ship lose. No response from SA has been noted yet by the PA since the attacks began.
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:30:00 -
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SA pilots were spotted and attack PA members in venal today. SA pilots from the Minmatar Freelancers. Pa reports show only one ship lose. No response from SA has been noted yet by the PA since the attacks began.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 13:49:18
O_o
no respone apart from the response in this thread?
The SA response by Aeryn Sun
Read a little now and again cursed, it goes a long way to not making yourself look silly.
P.S. lol, I just checked our killboard. Did the ebil SA pilots kill your little ship. awwwwww. /me pets The Cursed.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 13:49:18
O_o
no respone apart from the response in this thread?
The SA response by Aeryn Sun
Read a little now and again cursed, it goes a long way to not making yourself look silly.
P.S. lol, I just checked our killboard. Did the ebil SA pilots kill your little ship. awwwwww. /me pets The Cursed.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:52:00 -
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 Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 13:49:18
O_o
no respone apart from the response in this thread?
The SA response by Aeryn Sun
Read a little now and again cursed, it goes a long way to not making yourself look silly.
P.S. lol, I just checked our killboard. Did the ebil SA pilots kill your little ship. awwwwww. /me pets The Cursed.
dbp
Oh c'mon DBP....How can you expect this lot with their track record to spot the bloody obvious? 
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 13:49:18
O_o
no respone apart from the response in this thread?
The SA response by Aeryn Sun
Read a little now and again cursed, it goes a long way to not making yourself look silly.
P.S. lol, I just checked our killboard. Did the ebil SA pilots kill your little ship. awwwwww. /me pets The Cursed.
dbp
Oh c'mon DBP....How can you expect this lot with their track record to spot the bloody obvious?
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:54:00 -
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well we've tried hammers and stuff to make them realise what's going on in thier *claimed* space.
We've tried big guns.
We've tried constant forum posts to keep thier members informed of which corps are leaving them this month.
If you have any suggestions as to what we can try next, I'm open to alternatives ;)
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:54:00 -
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well we've tried hammers and stuff to make them realise what's going on in thier *claimed* space.
We've tried big guns.
We've tried constant forum posts to keep thier members informed of which corps are leaving them this month.
If you have any suggestions as to what we can try next, I'm open to alternatives ;)
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Mindblank
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:58:00 -
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Could Ayrun Sun plz show a (non fake) kill mail with joint CA and PA corps to back up her statment?
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Mindblank
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:58:00 -
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Could Ayrun Sun plz show a (non fake) kill mail with joint CA and PA corps to back up her statment?
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mindblank
Could Ayrun Sun plz show a (non fake) kill mail with joint CA and PA corps to back up her statment?
Whats the point? You have already decided to debunk what you see, even if it's the gospel truth. So, what is the point of your question?
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mindblank
Could Ayrun Sun plz show a (non fake) kill mail with joint CA and PA corps to back up her statment?
Whats the point? You have already decided to debunk what you see, even if it's the gospel truth. So, what is the point of your question?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Azure Skyclad
Originally by: Mindblank
Could Ayrun Sun plz show a (non fake) kill mail with joint CA and PA corps to back up her statment?
Whats the point? You have already decided to debunk what you see, even if it's the gospel truth. So, what is the point of your question?
I agree with azure.
History has a funny way of repeating itself with PA.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Azure Skyclad
Originally by: Mindblank
Could Ayrun Sun plz show a (non fake) kill mail with joint CA and PA corps to back up her statment?
Whats the point? You have already decided to debunk what you see, even if it's the gospel truth. So, what is the point of your question?
I agree with azure.
History has a funny way of repeating itself with PA.
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:18:00 -
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Bah, who cares. IŠve lost all hope for the muppets that think Evolution are cool or something. It will just be more targets that donŠt know what we do and how we do it.
And remember all you BoB forces that whine and ***** so much here, that we arenŠt in this war for your amusement or to give you good fights or whatever.
We are here to win, not to give you pleasure.
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:18:00 -
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Bah, who cares. IŠve lost all hope for the muppets that think Evolution are cool or something. It will just be more targets that donŠt know what we do and how we do it.
And remember all you BoB forces that whine and ***** so much here, that we arenŠt in this war for your amusement or to give you good fights or whatever.
We are here to win, not to give you pleasure.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zarks
Bah, who cares. IŠve lost all hope for the muppets that think Evolution are cool or something. It will just be more targets that donŠt know what we do and how we do it.
And remember all you BoB forces that whine and ***** so much here, that we arenŠt in this war for your amusement or to give you good fights or whatever.
We are here to win, not to give you pleasure.
What war?
There isn't any war.
That would require there to be two sides actually fighting en masse, day in, day out.
There are a few skirmishes when you come out of your safespots or a couple of pilots come up from empire.
Apart from that, the only chance you have of winning anything is if we quit eve and went to be farmers for the rest of our lives.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zarks
Bah, who cares. IŠve lost all hope for the muppets that think Evolution are cool or something. It will just be more targets that donŠt know what we do and how we do it.
And remember all you BoB forces that whine and ***** so much here, that we arenŠt in this war for your amusement or to give you good fights or whatever.
We are here to win, not to give you pleasure.
What war?
There isn't any war.
That would require there to be two sides actually fighting en masse, day in, day out.
There are a few skirmishes when you come out of your safespots or a couple of pilots come up from empire.
Apart from that, the only chance you have of winning anything is if we quit eve and went to be farmers for the rest of our lives.
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Mindblank
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Mindblank on 18/11/2004 14:26:41
I'm just asking for one piece of evidence that backs up that claim, that's all.
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Mindblank
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Mindblank on 18/11/2004 14:26:41
I'm just asking for one piece of evidence that backs up that claim, that's all.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mindblank
Edited by: Mindblank on 18/11/2004 14:26:41
I'm just asking for one piece of evidence that backs up that claim, that's all.
Apart from the fact that you are openly allied with Curse Alliance?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mindblank
Edited by: Mindblank on 18/11/2004 14:26:41
I'm just asking for one piece of evidence that backs up that claim, that's all.
Apart from the fact that you are openly allied with Curse Alliance?
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:26:00 -
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oooooo look at me im teh big bad DBP i kill all teh pa without losing any ship! YARRR I AM SO L33T!!!!!!
DBP your so full of jade.
BINGO!
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:26:00 -
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oooooo look at me im teh big bad DBP i kill all teh pa without losing any ship! YARRR I AM SO L33T!!!!!!
DBP your so full of jade.
BINGO!
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:27:00 -
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A guerilla war is still a war DBP!
Just because you say there is no war just means YOU think there is no war.
<<< No interest in this topic bored at work, and dont like people who think they know everything >>>
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:27:00 -
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A guerilla war is still a war DBP!
Just because you say there is no war just means YOU think there is no war.
<<< No interest in this topic bored at work, and dont like people who think they know everything >>>
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tumadra
oooooo look at me im teh big bad DBP i kill all teh pa without losing any ship! YARRR I AM SO L33T!!!!!!
DBP your so full of jade.
BINGO!
I lose lots of ships, usually at least 2 BS per month.
That's what happens when you fight, ye know.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tumadra
oooooo look at me im teh big bad DBP i kill all teh pa without losing any ship! YARRR I AM SO L33T!!!!!!
DBP your so full of jade.
BINGO!
I lose lots of ships, usually at least 2 BS per month.
That's what happens when you fight, ye know.
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:29:00 -
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Oh, we are winning this war DB.
For example here is Bladerunners vs BoB stats on YOUR own killist.
(and as we all know this is not directly tilted in our advantage)
Blade vs BoB
Battleships: 39 vs 14
Cruisers 22 vs 12
Interceptors 10 vs 3
You can not adapt to our way of killing you so you get all mad and all those feelings just burst inside of you DB, I know itŠs hard.
What you need to do is to be quiet and leave OUR land and then we wont hand your asses to you anymore ok?
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:29:00 -
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Oh, we are winning this war DB.
For example here is Bladerunners vs BoB stats on YOUR own killist.
(and as we all know this is not directly tilted in our advantage)
Blade vs BoB
Battleships: 39 vs 14
Cruisers 22 vs 12
Interceptors 10 vs 3
You can not adapt to our way of killing you so you get all mad and all those feelings just burst inside of you DB, I know itŠs hard.
What you need to do is to be quiet and leave OUR land and then we wont hand your asses to you anymore ok?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Damo Pendragon
A guerilla war is still a war DBP!
Just because you say there is no war just means YOU think there is no war.
<<< No interest in this topic bored at work, and dont like people who think they know everything >>>
How could there be a guerrilla war?
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
Unless I am mistaken (and I'll check Dictionary.com just in case) but a Guerrila war is:
"A member of an irregular, usually indigenous military or paramilitary unit operating in small bands in occupied territory to harass and undermine the enemy, as by surprise raids."
So... does that mean that PA are claiming we are now in complete control of Venal, Tenal and Branch?
Coz I'll go get the alliance maps changed if that's the case.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Damo Pendragon
A guerilla war is still a war DBP!
Just because you say there is no war just means YOU think there is no war.
<<< No interest in this topic bored at work, and dont like people who think they know everything >>>
How could there be a guerrilla war?
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
Unless I am mistaken (and I'll check Dictionary.com just in case) but a Guerrila war is:
"A member of an irregular, usually indigenous military or paramilitary unit operating in small bands in occupied territory to harass and undermine the enemy, as by surprise raids."
So... does that mean that PA are claiming we are now in complete control of Venal, Tenal and Branch?
Coz I'll go get the alliance maps changed if that's the case.
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:30:00 -
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m8 it doesnt make sence, you sit here and trash the pa saying we dont fight, Shrike has lost around 20 apocs now, i lost count durring the bkg fighting. If your going to trash the PA dont say we dont fight, its a lie. This is turning into a gank fest now, nothing more.
War or no war, you lose lots of ships all the same.
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:30:00 -
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m8 it doesnt make sence, you sit here and trash the pa saying we dont fight, Shrike has lost around 20 apocs now, i lost count durring the bkg fighting. If your going to trash the PA dont say we dont fight, its a lie. This is turning into a gank fest now, nothing more.
War or no war, you lose lots of ships all the same.
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Zeron Zeth
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:33:00 -
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When i flew around in EC-P i saw PA ships come in, get attacked and run..
That`s not war..It`s Guerilla running
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Zeron Zeth
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:33:00 -
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When i flew around in EC-P i saw PA ships come in, get attacked and run..
That`s not war..It`s Guerilla running
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 14:39:22
Originally by: Tumadra
m8 it doesnt make sence, you sit here and trash the pa saying we dont fight, Shrike has lost around 20 apocs now, i lost count durring the bkg fighting. If your going to trash the PA dont say we dont fight, its a lie. This is turning into a gank fest now, nothing more.
War or no war, you lose lots of ships all the same.
Nah, I'm not disagree'ing with that Tumadra, and as I've stated all along, there are elements from the original PA who live, fight, die and do everything else in Venal.
Mostly, it's Gods members now, like yourself, The Cursed, Presidio etc who live properly in venal alongside us who also live properly in venal.
What I'm talking about are the other 1500 supposed members of the PA who don't live in venal, tenal and branch.
As a percentage, the PA don't fight. There is a small percentage who do.
When I say the PA don't fight, I'm talking about as an entity not individuals.
I hope that makes sense.
And again so, until the PA can reform and fight together as a whole (like what happened in BKG for 2 months), there is no real war going on....just some gankings from each side.
P.S. Tumadra, you almost alone within the PA, are one person I do have respect for as a fighter. You are a pretty new player and have shown your worth in that respect a billion times over on Tumadra or your alt. So when I speak to you, I speak with respect.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 14:39:22
Originally by: Tumadra
m8 it doesnt make sence, you sit here and trash the pa saying we dont fight, Shrike has lost around 20 apocs now, i lost count durring the bkg fighting. If your going to trash the PA dont say we dont fight, its a lie. This is turning into a gank fest now, nothing more.
War or no war, you lose lots of ships all the same.
Nah, I'm not disagree'ing with that Tumadra, and as I've stated all along, there are elements from the original PA who live, fight, die and do everything else in Venal.
Mostly, it's Gods members now, like yourself, The Cursed, Presidio etc who live properly in venal alongside us who also live properly in venal.
What I'm talking about are the other 1500 supposed members of the PA who don't live in venal, tenal and branch.
As a percentage, the PA don't fight. There is a small percentage who do.
When I say the PA don't fight, I'm talking about as an entity not individuals.
I hope that makes sense.
And again so, until the PA can reform and fight together as a whole (like what happened in BKG for 2 months), there is no real war going on....just some gankings from each side.
P.S. Tumadra, you almost alone within the PA, are one person I do have respect for as a fighter. You are a pretty new player and have shown your worth in that respect a billion times over on Tumadra or your alt. So when I speak to you, I speak with respect.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zarks
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
For example here is Bladerunners vs BoB stats on YOUR own killist.
(and as we all know this is not directly tilted in our advantage)
Blade vs BoB
Battleships: 39 vs 14
Cruisers 22 vs 12
Interceptors 10 vs 3
You can not adapt to our way of killing you so you get all mad and all those feelings just burst inside of you DB, I know itŠs hard.
What you need to do is to be quiet and leave OUR land and then we wont hand your asses to you anymore ok?
How are those stats showing you to be winning a war?
It shows Bladerunners getting some kills.
It doesn't show PA numbers.
Unless you have now left PA are are alone in fighting us?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zarks
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
For example here is Bladerunners vs BoB stats on YOUR own killist.
(and as we all know this is not directly tilted in our advantage)
Blade vs BoB
Battleships: 39 vs 14
Cruisers 22 vs 12
Interceptors 10 vs 3
You can not adapt to our way of killing you so you get all mad and all those feelings just burst inside of you DB, I know itŠs hard.
What you need to do is to be quiet and leave OUR land and then we wont hand your asses to you anymore ok?
How are those stats showing you to be winning a war?
It shows Bladerunners getting some kills.
It doesn't show PA numbers.
Unless you have now left PA are are alone in fighting us?
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:38:00 -
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I wouldnt be bothered, since you PA guys are not really an alliance anymore.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:38:00 -
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I wouldnt be bothered, since you PA guys are not really an alliance anymore.
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:42:00 -
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DBP your such a smart ass.
Doesnt matter what anyone claims, you claim they dont fight your in control. So its a guerilla war then.
If they are fighting then its a full blown war. Either way there is a war in the region. Or can you fly around safely? Oh wait no you lose 2 BS a month???
Whether you claim it or they claim it is irrelevant, as this a free forum, and anyone can say what they like (unfortunately). In RL guerilla wars occur, because one side contols the media, but since thats not possible (although would be exceedingly cool, we really could have chemical Ali type charachters) in EVE everyone can spout what ever I like.
From what I see a lot of the posts about PA being dead, seem to be a lot of BOB people just repeating the PA is dead story. It makes for an excellent read.
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:42:00 -
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DBP your such a smart ass.
Doesnt matter what anyone claims, you claim they dont fight your in control. So its a guerilla war then.
If they are fighting then its a full blown war. Either way there is a war in the region. Or can you fly around safely? Oh wait no you lose 2 BS a month???
Whether you claim it or they claim it is irrelevant, as this a free forum, and anyone can say what they like (unfortunately). In RL guerilla wars occur, because one side contols the media, but since thats not possible (although would be exceedingly cool, we really could have chemical Ali type charachters) in EVE everyone can spout what ever I like.
From what I see a lot of the posts about PA being dead, seem to be a lot of BOB people just repeating the PA is dead story. It makes for an excellent read.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 14:50:03
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Doesnt matter what anyone claims, you claim they dont fight your in control. So its a guerilla war then.
I'll get on with getting Venal, Tenal and branch changed to BoB control on the Alliance maps then unless anyone has any serious objections?
It will be our territory completely for all to see and I will restart the end of month reports on PA's Guerrilla war against us?
Any disagreements speak now or forever stfu.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 14:50:03
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Doesnt matter what anyone claims, you claim they dont fight your in control. So its a guerilla war then.
I'll get on with getting Venal, Tenal and branch changed to BoB control on the Alliance maps then unless anyone has any serious objections?
It will be our territory completely for all to see and I will restart the end of month reports on PA's Guerrilla war against us?
Any disagreements speak now or forever stfu.
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:49:00 -
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Doesnt bother me!!!
I dont live there. I am just expressing my opinion on your so called no war!
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:49:00 -
[48]
Doesnt bother me!!!
I dont live there. I am just expressing my opinion on your so called no war!
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:00:00 -
[49]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
A guerilla war is still a war DBP!
Just because you say there is no war just means YOU think there is no war.
<<< No interest in this topic bored at work, and dont like people who think they know everything >>>
How could there be a guerrilla war?
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
Unless I am mistaken (and I'll check Dictionary.com just in case) but a Guerrila war is:
"A member of an irregular, usually indigenous military or paramilitary unit operating in small bands in occupied territory to harass and undermine the enemy, as by surprise raids."
So... does that mean that PA are claiming we are now in complete control of Venal, Tenal and Branch?
Coz I'll go get the alliance maps changed if that's the case.
dbp
Damo Pendragon is not in PA, anything else you may want to say in order to look even less smart?
PS: I did not know you had such control over Quarath's map that you can change it with your magic wand...
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
A guerilla war is still a war DBP!
Just because you say there is no war just means YOU think there is no war.
<<< No interest in this topic bored at work, and dont like people who think they know everything >>>
How could there be a guerrilla war?
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
Unless I am mistaken (and I'll check Dictionary.com just in case) but a Guerrila war is:
"A member of an irregular, usually indigenous military or paramilitary unit operating in small bands in occupied territory to harass and undermine the enemy, as by surprise raids."
So... does that mean that PA are claiming we are now in complete control of Venal, Tenal and Branch?
Coz I'll go get the alliance maps changed if that's the case.
dbp
Damo Pendragon is not in PA, anything else you may want to say in order to look even less smart?
PS: I did not know you had such control over Quarath's map that you can change it with your magic wand...
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:02:00 -
[51]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 15:05:41
Originally by: Kronarty
Damo Pendragon is not in PA, anything else you may want to say in order to look even less smart?
PS: I did not know you had such control over Quarath's map that you can change it with your magic wand...
I know he isn't but he was attempting to make valid points which I am entitled to answer.
This is a discussion forum isn't it?
As for Quarath's map, he works hard to keep it up-to-date with the latest alliance changes so if everyone is in agreement that there is now a PA guerrilla war then I will petition to get it changed.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:02:00 -
[52]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 15:05:41
Originally by: Kronarty
Damo Pendragon is not in PA, anything else you may want to say in order to look even less smart?
PS: I did not know you had such control over Quarath's map that you can change it with your magic wand...
I know he isn't but he was attempting to make valid points which I am entitled to answer.
This is a discussion forum isn't it?
As for Quarath's map, he works hard to keep it up-to-date with the latest alliance changes so if everyone is in agreement that there is now a PA guerrilla war then I will petition to get it changed.
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:03:00 -
[53]
Sorry attempting to make valid points??? Hmm interesting.
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:03:00 -
[54]
Sorry attempting to make valid points??? Hmm interesting.
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:06:00 -
[55]
It is not Guerrilla warfare in terms of, we have lost our space and all we do is annoy now.
What he means is all this war has turned to is many small groups, PA and BoB, moving around and ganking.
He does not mean we have lost our space, becase tbh, we havnt, theres just a minor infestation atm.
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:06:00 -
[56]
It is not Guerrilla warfare in terms of, we have lost our space and all we do is annoy now.
What he means is all this war has turned to is many small groups, PA and BoB, moving around and ganking.
He does not mean we have lost our space, becase tbh, we havnt, theres just a minor infestation atm.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:12:00 -
[57]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 15:18:09
Originally by: Tumadra
It is not Guerrilla warfare in terms of, we have lost our space and all we do is annoy now.
What he means is all this war has turned to is many small groups, PA and BoB, moving around and ganking.
He does not mean we have lost our space, becase tbh, we havnt, theres just a minor infestation atm.
But it hasn't, we constantly put together big fleets for a month, every single day and every single night (as late as we could) but all that happened was PA went to safespots and logged.
And there isn't "many small groups moving around and ganking", there is GODS, there is errr hmmmm errrr, Bladerunners hang around in H-PA now and again. OI move around in BS about once a week.
but that is it.
When BoB is home, we still hunt everyday en masse.
So BoB is a minor infestation that has lasted six months, forced alot of your corps out of PA, moved most of the PA members out of venal, tenal and branch, fly around freely during the day inside Venal, Tenal and Branch, can put together massively overwhelming fleets etc etc.
Surely even you don't believe that we are a minor infestation ;)
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:12:00 -
[58]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 15:18:09
Originally by: Tumadra
It is not Guerrilla warfare in terms of, we have lost our space and all we do is annoy now.
What he means is all this war has turned to is many small groups, PA and BoB, moving around and ganking.
He does not mean we have lost our space, becase tbh, we havnt, theres just a minor infestation atm.
But it hasn't, we constantly put together big fleets for a month, every single day and every single night (as late as we could) but all that happened was PA went to safespots and logged.
And there isn't "many small groups moving around and ganking", there is GODS, there is errr hmmmm errrr, Bladerunners hang around in H-PA now and again. OI move around in BS about once a week.
but that is it.
When BoB is home, we still hunt everyday en masse.
So BoB is a minor infestation that has lasted six months, forced alot of your corps out of PA, moved most of the PA members out of venal, tenal and branch, fly around freely during the day inside Venal, Tenal and Branch, can put together massively overwhelming fleets etc etc.
Surely even you don't believe that we are a minor infestation ;)
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:18:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Damo Pendragon on 18/11/2004 15:23:10
Edited by: Damo Pendragon on 18/11/2004 15:21:49
Hold on, I am still trying to get over 'Attempting' to make points?
lol, I am just winding you up now DBP. For me it looks like you are in control up there but just thinking about it, is it because all I read on the forums is how you cant get a fight. So who knows?
In truth though if PA guys go into hiding everytime a fleet forms up doesnt mean they have lost the war but it does also mean they are in control of their space! They are more of an underground resistance if that occurs. Nothing wrong with that look at the French!
People fight their own way, who cares as long as you enjoy it. Posting here only winds people up in my opinion. But I do it so I guess everyone call be lulled in!!
Edited terrible grammer! <--- and spelling
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:18:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Damo Pendragon on 18/11/2004 15:23:10
Edited by: Damo Pendragon on 18/11/2004 15:21:49
Hold on, I am still trying to get over 'Attempting' to make points?
lol, I am just winding you up now DBP. For me it looks like you are in control up there but just thinking about it, is it because all I read on the forums is how you cant get a fight. So who knows?
In truth though if PA guys go into hiding everytime a fleet forms up doesnt mean they have lost the war but it does also mean they are in control of their space! They are more of an underground resistance if that occurs. Nothing wrong with that look at the French!
People fight their own way, who cares as long as you enjoy it. Posting here only winds people up in my opinion. But I do it so I guess everyone call be lulled in!!
Edited terrible grammer! <--- and spelling
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Treptiomedes
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:23:00 -
[61]
/me looks @ the topic
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Treptiomedes
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:23:00 -
[62]
/me looks @ the topic
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:27:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Hold on, I am still trying to get over 'Attempting' to make points?
Yes, attempting... I.E. you were attempting to make points from an outside perspective.
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
lol, I am just winding you up now DBP. For me it looks like you are in control up there but just thinking about it, is it because all I read on the forums is how you cant get a fight. So who knows?
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
I could say BoB is in control of Curse, but that would be silly because CA put fleets together to defend their space vehemently (as BoB saw this week).
But if I was to say I'm in control of Venal, Tenal and Branch because we put together fleets to defend our space in the same way CA did this week whereas PA don't put together fleets to defend Venal, Tenal and Branch, would I still be silly?
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
In truth though if PA guys go into hiding everytime a fleet forms up doesnt mean they have lost the war but it does also mean they are in control of their space! They are more of an underground resistance if that occurs. Nothing wrong with that look at the French!
What if those fleets turn up from DT until 2am in the morning?
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
People fight their own way, who cares as long as you enjoy it. Posting here only winds people up in my opinion. But I do it so I guess everyone call be lulled in!!
Nah, posting here is just a way of working out wth is going on in Eve.
If people didn't post here, the information about alliance wars wouldn't nearly be so widespread.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:27:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Hold on, I am still trying to get over 'Attempting' to make points?
Yes, attempting... I.E. you were attempting to make points from an outside perspective.
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
lol, I am just winding you up now DBP. For me it looks like you are in control up there but just thinking about it, is it because all I read on the forums is how you cant get a fight. So who knows?
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
I could say BoB is in control of Curse, but that would be silly because CA put fleets together to defend their space vehemently (as BoB saw this week).
But if I was to say I'm in control of Venal, Tenal and Branch because we put together fleets to defend our space in the same way CA did this week whereas PA don't put together fleets to defend Venal, Tenal and Branch, would I still be silly?
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
In truth though if PA guys go into hiding everytime a fleet forms up doesnt mean they have lost the war but it does also mean they are in control of their space! They are more of an underground resistance if that occurs. Nothing wrong with that look at the French!
What if those fleets turn up from DT until 2am in the morning?
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
People fight their own way, who cares as long as you enjoy it. Posting here only winds people up in my opinion. But I do it so I guess everyone call be lulled in!!
Nah, posting here is just a way of working out wth is going on in Eve.
If people didn't post here, the information about alliance wars wouldn't nearly be so widespread.
dbp
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:27:00 -
[65]
DBP, I see these "Massive" fleets maybe once a month. Thats when one of the Chainspawners has some drones and your other 10 gankers cant handle the pressure.
PA forms fleets, you run and hide, we take the station and the old fellas go to work\bed because the fun has ended, there is nothing to kill, no reason to stay.
Just because you yourself never see them, doesnt mean they are not there.
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:27:00 -
[66]
DBP, I see these "Massive" fleets maybe once a month. Thats when one of the Chainspawners has some drones and your other 10 gankers cant handle the pressure.
PA forms fleets, you run and hide, we take the station and the old fellas go to work\bed because the fun has ended, there is nothing to kill, no reason to stay.
Just because you yourself never see them, doesnt mean they are not there.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:30:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Teelmaster on 18/11/2004 15:33:51
Originally by: Tumadra
DBP, I see these "Massive" fleets maybe once a month. Thats when one of the Chainspawners has some drones and your other 10 gankers cant handle the pressure.
PA forms fleets, you run and hide, we take the station and the old fellas go to work\bed because the fun has ended, there is nothing to kill, no reason to stay.
Just because you yourself never see them, doesnt mean they are not there.
HAHAHAHA i hope you all form fleets, we're looking for some action 
But from what i have heard you are mostly safe-spot hugging carebears in need of a good spanking for be so lame.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:30:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Teelmaster on 18/11/2004 15:33:51
Originally by: Tumadra
DBP, I see these "Massive" fleets maybe once a month. Thats when one of the Chainspawners has some drones and your other 10 gankers cant handle the pressure.
PA forms fleets, you run and hide, we take the station and the old fellas go to work\bed because the fun has ended, there is nothing to kill, no reason to stay.
Just because you yourself never see them, doesnt mean they are not there.
HAHAHAHA i hope you all form fleets, we're looking for some action
But from what i have heard you are mostly safe-spot hugging carebears in need of a good spanking for be so lame.
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:31:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Damo Pendragon on 18/11/2004 15:35:04
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Hold on, I am still trying to get over 'Attempting' to make points?
Yes, attempting... I.E. you were attempting to make points from an outside perspective.
I am just being a **** now but I made the point. Whether the points are accurate or not has nothing to do with that, the point was made. Thanks DBP you have made my afternoon in work a laugh!
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:31:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Damo Pendragon on 18/11/2004 15:35:04
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Hold on, I am still trying to get over 'Attempting' to make points?
Yes, attempting... I.E. you were attempting to make points from an outside perspective.
I am just being a **** now but I made the point. Whether the points are accurate or not has nothing to do with that, the point was made. Thanks DBP you have made my afternoon in work a laugh!
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:31:00 -
[71]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 15:36:04
Originally by: Tumadra
DBP, I see these "Massive" fleets maybe once a month. Thats when one of the Chainspawners has some drones and your other 10 gankers cant handle the pressure.
PA forms fleets, you run and hide, we take the station and the old fellas go to work\bed because the fun has ended, there is nothing to kill, no reason to stay.
Just because you yourself never see them, doesnt mean they are not there.
PA form fleets when?
We run and hide when?
If you mean between late at nights then I'll requote what I wrote in another thread:
Quote:
Apparently there are a few GODS members who make a small fleet at around 2am when most of BoB is asleep.
/me shrugs
If that is the only time GODS can play, then for those 4 hours when we are asleep, Venal, Tenal and Branch is yours. We care not, we are not looking to dominate 24/7 at this point in the game. 20/7 is fine for us.
But the fact remains Tumadra, even if you construct *big* fleets in the evening, they are not really big fleets are they?
They are maybe 10-20 pilots? Maybe even up to 30 pilots?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:31:00 -
[72]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 15:36:04
Originally by: Tumadra
DBP, I see these "Massive" fleets maybe once a month. Thats when one of the Chainspawners has some drones and your other 10 gankers cant handle the pressure.
PA forms fleets, you run and hide, we take the station and the old fellas go to work\bed because the fun has ended, there is nothing to kill, no reason to stay.
Just because you yourself never see them, doesnt mean they are not there.
PA form fleets when?
We run and hide when?
If you mean between late at nights then I'll requote what I wrote in another thread:
Quote:
Apparently there are a few GODS members who make a small fleet at around 2am when most of BoB is asleep.
/me shrugs
If that is the only time GODS can play, then for those 4 hours when we are asleep, Venal, Tenal and Branch is yours. We care not, we are not looking to dominate 24/7 at this point in the game. 20/7 is fine for us.
But the fact remains Tumadra, even if you construct *big* fleets in the evening, they are not really big fleets are they?
They are maybe 10-20 pilots? Maybe even up to 30 pilots?
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Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:33:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Mindblank
Could Ayrun Sun plz show a (non fake) kill mail with joint CA and PA corps to back up her statment?
What does it matter
1) Your an allie with their main enemy
2)PA have goen down to curse to mine/npc and curse have been to venal
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Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:33:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Mindblank
Could Ayrun Sun plz show a (non fake) kill mail with joint CA and PA corps to back up her statment?
What does it matter
1) Your an allie with their main enemy
2)PA have goen down to curse to mine/npc and curse have been to venal
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:34:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Edited by: Damo Pendragon on 18/11/2004 15:35:04
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Hold on, I am still trying to get over 'Attempting' to make points?
Yes, attempting... I.E. you were attempting to make points from an outside perspective.
I am just being a **** now but I made the point. Whether the points are accurate or not has nothing to do with that, the point was made. Thanks DBP you have made my afternoon in work a laugh!
likewise ;)
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:34:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Edited by: Damo Pendragon on 18/11/2004 15:35:04
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Hold on, I am still trying to get over 'Attempting' to make points?
Yes, attempting... I.E. you were attempting to make points from an outside perspective.
I am just being a **** now but I made the point. Whether the points are accurate or not has nothing to do with that, the point was made. Thanks DBP you have made my afternoon in work a laugh!
likewise ;)
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ULTRADYNE
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:35:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
In truth though if PA guys go into hiding everytime a fleet forms up doesnt mean they have lost the war but it does also mean they are in control of their space! They are more of an underground resistance if that occurs. Nothing wrong with that look at the French!
Hey theres only one Underground Resistance around here
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ULTRADYNE
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:35:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
In truth though if PA guys go into hiding everytime a fleet forms up doesnt mean they have lost the war but it does also mean they are in control of their space! They are more of an underground resistance if that occurs. Nothing wrong with that look at the French!
Hey theres only one Underground Resistance around here
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:37:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Teelmaster
But from what i have heard you are mostly safe-spot hugging carebears in need of a good spanking for be so lame.
What you've heard, end of that.
DBP there are many PA fleets, open your eyes.
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Tumadra
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:37:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Teelmaster
But from what i have heard you are mostly safe-spot hugging carebears in need of a good spanking for be so lame.
What you've heard, end of that.
DBP there are many PA fleets, open your eyes.
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Blueblooded
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:40:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
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Blueblooded
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:40:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:40:00 -
[83]
Quote:
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
For example here is Bladerunners vs BoB stats on YOUR own killist.
(and as we all know this is not directly tilted in our advantage)
Blade vs BoB
Battleships: 39 vs 14
Cruisers 22 vs 12
Interceptors 10 vs 3
You have to look at it in terms of the whole alliance. Say 6 PA corps are grouped up and score 10 kills, but take 12 losses. If you looked at their stats individually, 60 will show up, because each was involved with the 10. 60 to 12 is a 5 to 1 ratio, even if your alliance lost more than you killed
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:40:00 -
[84]
Quote:
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
For example here is Bladerunners vs BoB stats on YOUR own killist.
(and as we all know this is not directly tilted in our advantage)
Blade vs BoB
Battleships: 39 vs 14
Cruisers 22 vs 12
Interceptors 10 vs 3
You have to look at it in terms of the whole alliance. Say 6 PA corps are grouped up and score 10 kills, but take 12 losses. If you looked at their stats individually, 60 will show up, because each was involved with the 10. 60 to 12 is a 5 to 1 ratio, even if your alliance lost more than you killed
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:40:00 -
[85]
Edited by: sutty on 18/11/2004 15:42:55
Also MOST of Blades kills are from log on ganks, thats from your own members mouths.
so there isn't much chance to catch you
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:40:00 -
[86]
Edited by: sutty on 18/11/2004 15:42:55
Also MOST of Blades kills are from log on ganks, thats from your own members mouths.
so there isn't much chance to catch you
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Faramir
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:41:00 -
[87]
Quote:
Halseth Durn > We are an alliance that wants to be left alone
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Faramir
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:41:00 -
[88]
Quote:
Halseth Durn > We are an alliance that wants to be left alone
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:43:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Tumadra
Originally by: Teelmaster
But from what i have heard you are mostly safe-spot hugging carebears in need of a good spanking for be so lame.
What you've heard, end of that.
DBP there are many PA fleets, open your eyes.
Maybe you're right, but they ain't defending Venal day in, day out. I know because I was hunting solidly for a month day in, day out before my holiday.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:43:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Tumadra
Originally by: Teelmaster
But from what i have heard you are mostly safe-spot hugging carebears in need of a good spanking for be so lame.
What you've heard, end of that.
DBP there are many PA fleets, open your eyes.
Maybe you're right, but they ain't defending Venal day in, day out. I know because I was hunting solidly for a month day in, day out before my holiday.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:48:00 -
[91]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 16:06:35
Originally by: Blueblooded
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
lol
that's pretty funny.
We sent 1 pilot after ASW in our "war" against them so far - ugluuk.
If you want, we'll send the same as what we did against OS for the next month?
You know the one where we forced them to move on from thier home after being killed lots?
If the ASW war was a concern to us in the slightest, we'd pull the war.
and hey, since we have been at war with diff corps in empire since the beginning of this war, it's highly unlikely a couple of ganks in empire will make us lose spirit ;)
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:48:00 -
[92]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 16:06:35
Originally by: Blueblooded
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
lol
that's pretty funny.
We sent 1 pilot after ASW in our "war" against them so far - ugluuk.
If you want, we'll send the same as what we did against OS for the next month?
You know the one where we forced them to move on from thier home after being killed lots?
If the ASW war was a concern to us in the slightest, we'd pull the war.
and hey, since we have been at war with diff corps in empire since the beginning of this war, it's highly unlikely a couple of ganks in empire will make us lose spirit ;)
dbp
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:51:00 -
[93]
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
Quote:
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
For example here is Bladerunners vs BoB stats on YOUR own killist.
(and as we all know this is not directly tilted in our advantage)
Blade vs BoB
Battleships: 39 vs 14
Cruisers 22 vs 12
Interceptors 10 vs 3
You have to look at it in terms of the whole alliance. Say 6 PA corps are grouped up and score 10 kills, but take 12 losses. If you looked at their stats individually, 60 will show up, because each was involved with the 10. 60 to 12 is a 5 to 1 ratio, even if your alliance lost more than you killed
That is what happens with the numbers BoB has been throwing around all war long, but what you fail to notice is that this affects BoB's numbers much more than it affects PA's, as BoB gangs usually have people from at least 3 BoB corps, while PA gangs are usually limited to one corp, two at the most. This is obviously due to the downscaling of action and the fact that most engagements involve less than 10 pilots. This is now, after all, a very mobile war without much camping.
This basically means that this multiplying factor affects BoB kill/death ratio much more than it does PA's.
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.11.18 15:51:00 -
[94]
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
Quote:
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
For example here is Bladerunners vs BoB stats on YOUR own killist.
(and as we all know this is not directly tilted in our advantage)
Blade vs BoB
Battleships: 39 vs 14
Cruisers 22 vs 12
Interceptors 10 vs 3
You have to look at it in terms of the whole alliance. Say 6 PA corps are grouped up and score 10 kills, but take 12 losses. If you looked at their stats individually, 60 will show up, because each was involved with the 10. 60 to 12 is a 5 to 1 ratio, even if your alliance lost more than you killed
That is what happens with the numbers BoB has been throwing around all war long, but what you fail to notice is that this affects BoB's numbers much more than it affects PA's, as BoB gangs usually have people from at least 3 BoB corps, while PA gangs are usually limited to one corp, two at the most. This is obviously due to the downscaling of action and the fact that most engagements involve less than 10 pilots. This is now, after all, a very mobile war without much camping.
This basically means that this multiplying factor affects BoB kill/death ratio much more than it does PA's.
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:11:00 -
[95]
*BINGO*
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
"Any statements made above this line are my persona" |
Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:11:00 -
[96]
*BINGO*
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
"Any statements made above this line are my persona" |
Galavet
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:14:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
*BINGO*
PennState Fan?
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Galavet
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:14:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
*BINGO*
PennState Fan?
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Blueblooded
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:29:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
*BINGO*
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"The royal blood is blue, hence my name"
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Blueblooded
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:29:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
*BINGO*
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"The royal blood is blue, hence my name"
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:31:00 -
[101]
Edited by: DirtyHarry on 18/11/2004 16:49:02
m3g4,biomass,fe killed off the various venal alliances a number of times, what you will notice is they never go away, like a bad smell  they reform under a new name and regroup, always  .
So it will always be hard to call Venal/Tenal/Branch BoBs territory as ninja groups of ships from the PA are hanging around here and there.
(not a flame, just my input)
-Havo
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Sig: Mirus Crosius <3
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |
DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:31:00 -
[102]
Edited by: DirtyHarry on 18/11/2004 16:49:02
m3g4,biomass,fe killed off the various venal alliances a number of times, what you will notice is they never go away, like a bad smell they reform under a new name and regroup, always .
So it will always be hard to call Venal/Tenal/Branch BoBs territory as ninja groups of ships from the PA are hanging around here and there.
(not a flame, just my input)
-Havo
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Sig: Mirus Crosius <3
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:36:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 18/11/2004 16:43:10
Havocide makes a good point PA are either stubborn,stupid or what I tend to believe both. If they were smart they would have moved to curse
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:36:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 18/11/2004 16:43:10
Havocide makes a good point PA are either stubborn,stupid or what I tend to believe both. If they were smart they would have moved to curse
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:38:00 -
[105]
This attack was not some random system in there space. It was in PA space with the help of BOB.
Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!! |
The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:38:00 -
[106]
This attack was not some random system in there space. It was in PA space with the help of BOB.
Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!! |
Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:41:00 -
[107]
Originally by: The Cursed
This attack was not some random system in there space. It was in PA space with the help of BOB.
1.) Wrong. It was our space.
2.) Nobody cares what you guys think.
3.) Even if SA did attack "PA" on purpose, what are you going to do? Safespot in Stain?
4.) We laugh at you.
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:41:00 -
[108]
Originally by: The Cursed
This attack was not some random system in there space. It was in PA space with the help of BOB.
1.) Wrong. It was our space.
2.) Nobody cares what you guys think.
3.) Even if SA did attack "PA" on purpose, what are you going to do? Safespot in Stain?
4.) We laugh at you.
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:45:00 -
[109]
Originally by: DirtyHarry
m3g4,biomass,fe killed off the various venal alliances a number of times, what you will notice is they never go away, like a bad smell they reform under a new name and regroup, always .
So it will always be hard to call Venal/Tenal/Branch BoBs territory as ninja groups of ships from the PA are hanging around here and there.
(not a flame, just my input)
-Havo
Yeah mate, you did, same as Evolution did when they first came up here.
The difference this time though is BoB is actually living there.
I was there during the annihilation of NVA under F-E and Biomass, you were in control but you never moved up en masse to try to defend it like it was yours.
All attacks usually came from Tribute and Geminate.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:45:00 -
[110]
Originally by: DirtyHarry
m3g4,biomass,fe killed off the various venal alliances a number of times, what you will notice is they never go away, like a bad smell they reform under a new name and regroup, always .
So it will always be hard to call Venal/Tenal/Branch BoBs territory as ninja groups of ships from the PA are hanging around here and there.
(not a flame, just my input)
-Havo
Yeah mate, you did, same as Evolution did when they first came up here.
The difference this time though is BoB is actually living there.
I was there during the annihilation of NVA under F-E and Biomass, you were in control but you never moved up en masse to try to defend it like it was yours.
All attacks usually came from Tribute and Geminate.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:53:00 -
[111]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: DirtyHarry
m3g4,biomass,fe killed off the various venal alliances a number of times, what you will notice is they never go away, like a bad smell they reform under a new name and regroup, always .
So it will always be hard to call Venal/Tenal/Branch BoBs territory as ninja groups of ships from the PA are hanging around here and there.
(not a flame, just my input)
-Havo
Yeah mate, you did, same as Evolution did when they first came up here.
The difference this time though is BoB is actually living there.
I was there during the annihilation of NVA under F-E and Biomass, you were in control but you never moved up en masse to try to defend it like it was yours.
All attacks usually came from Tribute and Geminate.
dbp
Indeed thats true m8 we didnt, mainly because we realised it was a piece of **** area of space (at that time), we came for the turkey shoot,
Even though we did practically wipe out the nva/pa's military we always had problems with small groups of 5 of so pilots that were to stubborn to take defeat and leave.
I have to agree DBP from experience that 90% of the PA (mainly the miners) have probably fled for empire but i reckon BoB and friends will meet fierce resistance and gankings from the small groups of the leftovers for a long time to come...
-Havo
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DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |
DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:53:00 -
[112]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: DirtyHarry
m3g4,biomass,fe killed off the various venal alliances a number of times, what you will notice is they never go away, like a bad smell they reform under a new name and regroup, always .
So it will always be hard to call Venal/Tenal/Branch BoBs territory as ninja groups of ships from the PA are hanging around here and there.
(not a flame, just my input)
-Havo
Yeah mate, you did, same as Evolution did when they first came up here.
The difference this time though is BoB is actually living there.
I was there during the annihilation of NVA under F-E and Biomass, you were in control but you never moved up en masse to try to defend it like it was yours.
All attacks usually came from Tribute and Geminate.
dbp
Indeed thats true m8 we didnt, mainly because we realised it was a piece of **** area of space (at that time), we came for the turkey shoot,
Even though we did practically wipe out the nva/pa's military we always had problems with small groups of 5 of so pilots that were to stubborn to take defeat and leave.
I have to agree DBP from experience that 90% of the PA (mainly the miners) have probably fled for empire but i reckon BoB and friends will meet fierce resistance and gankings from the small groups of the leftovers for a long time to come...
-Havo
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Sig: Mirus Crosius <3
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:59:00 -
[113]
Originally by: DirtyHarry
I have to agree DBP from experience that 90% of the PA (mainly the miners) have probably fled for empire but i reckon BoB and friends will meet fierce resistance and gankings from the small groups of the leftovers for a long time to come...
I hope so, regardless of what peeps think, there is nothing better than being able to log on and get a fight straight off in your own territory without having to travel 50 jumps or something.
:)
dbp
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 16:59:00 -
[114]
Originally by: DirtyHarry
I have to agree DBP from experience that 90% of the PA (mainly the miners) have probably fled for empire but i reckon BoB and friends will meet fierce resistance and gankings from the small groups of the leftovers for a long time to come...
I hope so, regardless of what peeps think, there is nothing better than being able to log on and get a fight straight off in your own territory without having to travel 50 jumps or something.
:)
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:01:00 -
[115]
Edited by: LLeBRing on 18/11/2004 17:05:53
Maybe SA's morale is low? they need to pick on a smaller target and try to get some kills since their current war is not going so well?
who knows, not sure from my end but depending on the force me thinks it's fool hardy at best.
Guess everyone does it though, even I. Times get tough, need to go after someone else and just get away from home for a bit...
I'm begining to understand
oh and why is havocide posting as dirtyharry?  I must be out of the loop...
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:01:00 -
[116]
Edited by: LLeBRing on 18/11/2004 17:05:53
Maybe SA's morale is low? they need to pick on a smaller target and try to get some kills since their current war is not going so well?
who knows, not sure from my end but depending on the force me thinks it's fool hardy at best.
Guess everyone does it though, even I. Times get tough, need to go after someone else and just get away from home for a bit...
I'm begining to understand
oh and why is havocide posting as dirtyharry? I must be out of the loop...
Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella |
Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:03:00 -
[117]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
A guerilla war is still a war DBP!
Just because you say there is no war just means YOU think there is no war.
<<< No interest in this topic bored at work, and dont like people who think they know everything >>>
How could there be a guerrilla war?
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
Unless I am mistaken (and I'll check Dictionary.com just in case) but a Guerrila war is:
"A member of an irregular, usually indigenous military or paramilitary unit operating in small bands in occupied territory to harass and undermine the enemy, as by surprise raids."
So... does that mean that PA are claiming we are now in complete control of Venal, Tenal and Branch?
Coz I'll go get the alliance maps changed if that's the case.
dbp
db havent you claimed every week for the last 6 months that they are dead?
how can just one corp from PA kill you more then you kill them if they have been so dead for so long.
your logic still evades me.
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:03:00 -
[118]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
A guerilla war is still a war DBP!
Just because you say there is no war just means YOU think there is no war.
<<< No interest in this topic bored at work, and dont like people who think they know everything >>>
How could there be a guerrilla war?
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
Unless I am mistaken (and I'll check Dictionary.com just in case) but a Guerrila war is:
"A member of an irregular, usually indigenous military or paramilitary unit operating in small bands in occupied territory to harass and undermine the enemy, as by surprise raids."
So... does that mean that PA are claiming we are now in complete control of Venal, Tenal and Branch?
Coz I'll go get the alliance maps changed if that's the case.
dbp
db havent you claimed every week for the last 6 months that they are dead?
how can just one corp from PA kill you more then you kill them if they have been so dead for so long.
your logic still evades me.
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:14:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Malken
db havent you claimed every week for the last 6 months that they are dead?
how can just one corp from PA kill you more then you kill them if they have been so dead for so long.
your logic still evades me.
Dear Malken, logic is a foreign concept to db preacher, it has always been, and will probably be forever. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
OTOH, the amount of posterior tongue-massaging db preacher does to each and every person that says something slightly negative about the PA, no matter what he thinks about them really, makes me feel very happy.
I heard people even in Yulai are smelling db's "come-and-help-us,-please,-PA-are-dead-but-we-need-to-kill-them-a-bit-more-so-I-don't-mind-if-I-called-you-names-before,-if-you-can-hold-a-gun-and-pull-the-trigger-you're-welcome-to-die-for-us" parfum even as we speak.
Have fun.
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:14:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Malken
db havent you claimed every week for the last 6 months that they are dead?
how can just one corp from PA kill you more then you kill them if they have been so dead for so long.
your logic still evades me.
Dear Malken, logic is a foreign concept to db preacher, it has always been, and will probably be forever. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
OTOH, the amount of posterior tongue-massaging db preacher does to each and every person that says something slightly negative about the PA, no matter what he thinks about them really, makes me feel very happy.
I heard people even in Yulai are smelling db's "come-and-help-us,-please,-PA-are-dead-but-we-need-to-kill-them-a-bit-more-so-I-don't-mind-if-I-called-you-names-before,-if-you-can-hold-a-gun-and-pull-the-trigger-you're-welcome-to-die-for-us" parfum even as we speak.
Have fun.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:15:00 -
[121]
Originally by: DirtyHarry
[Even though we did practically wipe out the nva/pa's military we always had problems with small groups of 5 of so pilots that were to stubborn to take defeat and leave.
I was helping my corp up in Tenal two weeks ago and we hardly ever saw anymore then groups of 5 PA (except for one night when PA formed a fleet of about 20 to take the stations). The reason the PA fighters never leave is because 90% of them must be alts (or not play EVE much). You will see them logon and have a look for an easy kill then logoff. 10 minutes later another one logs on. That goes on for hours on end and you rarely see a character stay on for very long (though there are exceptions).
As someone who only runs one character it is very annoying to try and fight a group like that, because they basically have no real reason to leave when they have other characters they can play with if they are not in a good situation to win the fight. I spent most of my time up in Tenal either NPCing while waiting for a fight, or SSing when the the amount of people in my corp online dropped below three, because then the PA would come out in overwhelming force (mainly when my most of my corp and the member corps of BoB where offline).
Yes PA does come out to fight and does form fleets, but it is nearly always when the number of enemy pilots is quite low (mainly time zone issues I think). And the amount of co-ordination between non-BoB PA unfriendly corps isnt that great, so we tend to be stuck in small isolated groups.
I got bored of the war up north fairly quickly and now protect my corps interests in Pure Blind.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:15:00 -
[122]
Originally by: DirtyHarry
[Even though we did practically wipe out the nva/pa's military we always had problems with small groups of 5 of so pilots that were to stubborn to take defeat and leave.
I was helping my corp up in Tenal two weeks ago and we hardly ever saw anymore then groups of 5 PA (except for one night when PA formed a fleet of about 20 to take the stations). The reason the PA fighters never leave is because 90% of them must be alts (or not play EVE much). You will see them logon and have a look for an easy kill then logoff. 10 minutes later another one logs on. That goes on for hours on end and you rarely see a character stay on for very long (though there are exceptions).
As someone who only runs one character it is very annoying to try and fight a group like that, because they basically have no real reason to leave when they have other characters they can play with if they are not in a good situation to win the fight. I spent most of my time up in Tenal either NPCing while waiting for a fight, or SSing when the the amount of people in my corp online dropped below three, because then the PA would come out in overwhelming force (mainly when my most of my corp and the member corps of BoB where offline).
Yes PA does come out to fight and does form fleets, but it is nearly always when the number of enemy pilots is quite low (mainly time zone issues I think). And the amount of co-ordination between non-BoB PA unfriendly corps isnt that great, so we tend to be stuck in small isolated groups.
I got bored of the war up north fairly quickly and now protect my corps interests in Pure Blind.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:27:00 -
[123]
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 18/11/2004 17:33:38
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 18/11/2004 17:30:51
Quote:
That is what happens with the numbers BoB has been throwing around all war long, but what you fail to notice is that this affects BoB's numbers much more than it affects PA's, as BoB gangs usually have people from at least 3 BoB corps, while PA gangs are usually limited to one corp, two at the most. This is obviously due to the downscaling of action and the fact that most engagements involve less than 10 pilots. This is now, after all, a very mobile war without much camping.
This basically means that this multiplying factor affects BoB kill/death ratio much more than it does PA's.
The numbers I've been seeing are from day to day listings, which count total kills, not counting the same ship twice. For easy reference dbp, you should put a tiny counter under each alliances name near the top of the screen, with battleship kill to death ratios. That would be nice
Or maybe when you click on an enemy alliances name at the top, instead of just filtering for the last 30 kills of that alliance, you could have a stats page listing overall ship kills/deaths by ship type
Or a little link saying "Overall stats" under each alliance name at the top, the original would be as it is now
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:27:00 -
[124]
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 18/11/2004 17:33:38
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 18/11/2004 17:30:51
Quote:
That is what happens with the numbers BoB has been throwing around all war long, but what you fail to notice is that this affects BoB's numbers much more than it affects PA's, as BoB gangs usually have people from at least 3 BoB corps, while PA gangs are usually limited to one corp, two at the most. This is obviously due to the downscaling of action and the fact that most engagements involve less than 10 pilots. This is now, after all, a very mobile war without much camping.
This basically means that this multiplying factor affects BoB kill/death ratio much more than it does PA's.
The numbers I've been seeing are from day to day listings, which count total kills, not counting the same ship twice. For easy reference dbp, you should put a tiny counter under each alliances name near the top of the screen, with battleship kill to death ratios. That would be nice
Or maybe when you click on an enemy alliances name at the top, instead of just filtering for the last 30 kills of that alliance, you could have a stats page listing overall ship kills/deaths by ship type
Or a little link saying "Overall stats" under each alliance name at the top, the original would be as it is now
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:29:00 -
[125]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 17:32:39
Originally by: Malken
db havent you claimed every week for the last 6 months that they are dead?
how can just one corp from PA kill you more then you kill them if they have been so dead for so long.
your logic still evades me.
I've claimed that as an alliance, PA are non-functioning.
They are not in control of their space and en masse they are not living in venal, tenal or branch.
They are incapable of putting together fleets and their communication is terrible.
That's what I've stated.
Kronarty: please don't stretch the forum, kthx.
dbp
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:29:00 -
[126]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 17:32:39
Originally by: Malken
db havent you claimed every week for the last 6 months that they are dead?
how can just one corp from PA kill you more then you kill them if they have been so dead for so long.
your logic still evades me.
I've claimed that as an alliance, PA are non-functioning.
They are not in control of their space and en masse they are not living in venal, tenal or branch.
They are incapable of putting together fleets and their communication is terrible.
That's what I've stated.
Kronarty: please don't stretch the forum, kthx.
dbp
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:31:00 -
[127]
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 18/11/2004 17:34:48
Oh, yeah, just forgot who made it. I think I like the 3rd one best, just have a seperate overall stats link for each at the top
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:31:00 -
[128]
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 18/11/2004 17:34:48
Oh, yeah, just forgot who made it. I think I like the 3rd one best, just have a seperate overall stats link for each at the top
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:31:00 -
[129]
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 18/11/2004 17:30:51
Quote:
That is what happens with the numbers BoB has been throwing around all war long, but what you fail to notice is that this affects BoB's numbers much more than it affects PA's, as BoB gangs usually have people from at least 3 BoB corps, while PA gangs are usually limited to one corp, two at the most. This is obviously due to the downscaling of action and the fact that most engagements involve less than 10 pilots. This is now, after all, a very mobile war without much camping.
This basically means that this multiplying factor affects BoB kill/death ratio much more than it does PA's.
The numbers I've been seeing are from day to day listings, which count total kills, not counting the same ship twice. For easy reference dbp, you should put a tiny counter under each alliances name near the top of the screen, with battleship kill to death ratios. That would be nice
Or maybe when you click on an enemy alliances name at the top, instead of just filtering for the last 30 kills of that alliance, you could have a stats page listing overall ship kills/deaths by ship type
I'll pass this on to dimensionz and see what he says.
cheers
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:31:00 -
[130]
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 18/11/2004 17:30:51
Quote:
That is what happens with the numbers BoB has been throwing around all war long, but what you fail to notice is that this affects BoB's numbers much more than it affects PA's, as BoB gangs usually have people from at least 3 BoB corps, while PA gangs are usually limited to one corp, two at the most. This is obviously due to the downscaling of action and the fact that most engagements involve less than 10 pilots. This is now, after all, a very mobile war without much camping.
This basically means that this multiplying factor affects BoB kill/death ratio much more than it does PA's.
The numbers I've been seeing are from day to day listings, which count total kills, not counting the same ship twice. For easy reference dbp, you should put a tiny counter under each alliances name near the top of the screen, with battleship kill to death ratios. That would be nice
Or maybe when you click on an enemy alliances name at the top, instead of just filtering for the last 30 kills of that alliance, you could have a stats page listing overall ship kills/deaths by ship type
I'll pass this on to dimensionz and see what he says.
cheers
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:43:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Zarks
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
You can not adapt to our way of killing you so you get all mad and all those feelings just burst inside of you DB, I know itŠs hard.
What you need to do is to be quiet and leave OUR land and then we wont hand your asses to you anymore ok?
excuse me? that you even dare to say such utter rubbish is beyond me.
if you need to do login traps to get kills I feel sorry for you.
even with all the cowardly actions you do, we get more kills. |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:43:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Zarks
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
You can not adapt to our way of killing you so you get all mad and all those feelings just burst inside of you DB, I know itŠs hard.
What you need to do is to be quiet and leave OUR land and then we wont hand your asses to you anymore ok?
excuse me? that you even dare to say such utter rubbish is beyond me.
if you need to do login traps to get kills I feel sorry for you.
even with all the cowardly actions you do, we get more kills. |
Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:45:00 -
[133]
Originally by: LLeBRing
Edited by: LLeBRing on 18/11/2004 17:05:53
Maybe SA's morale is low? they need to pick on a smaller target and try to get some kills since their current war is not going so well?
who knows, not sure from my end but depending on the force me thinks it's fool hardy at best.
Guess everyone does it though, even I. Times get tough, need to go after someone else and just get away from home for a bit...
I'm begining to understand
oh and why is havocide posting as dirtyharry? I must be out of the loop...
Uhm....
The SA - CA war not going well ?
It's in the same state now that is was in when I was a member of the collective.. it's neck to neck... allthough the atmosphere is much calmer and not massive fleet battles every night..
I guess ppl are preparing for exodus these days... I know I am :Š kinda..
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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:45:00 -
[134]
Originally by: LLeBRing
Edited by: LLeBRing on 18/11/2004 17:05:53
Maybe SA's morale is low? they need to pick on a smaller target and try to get some kills since their current war is not going so well?
who knows, not sure from my end but depending on the force me thinks it's fool hardy at best.
Guess everyone does it though, even I. Times get tough, need to go after someone else and just get away from home for a bit...
I'm begining to understand
oh and why is havocide posting as dirtyharry? I must be out of the loop...
Uhm....
The SA - CA war not going well ?
It's in the same state now that is was in when I was a member of the collective.. it's neck to neck... allthough the atmosphere is much calmer and not massive fleet battles every night..
I guess ppl are preparing for exodus these days... I know I am :Š kinda..
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Johnathan Roark
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:49:00 -
[135]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 17:32:39
Originally by: Malken
db havent you claimed every week for the last 6 months that they are dead?
how can just one corp from PA kill you more then you kill them if they have been so dead for so long.
your logic still evades me.
I've claimed that as an alliance, PA are non-functioning.
They are not in control of their space and en masse they are not living in venal, tenal or branch.
They are incapable of putting together fleets and their communication is terrible.
That's what I've stated.
Kronarty: please don't stretch the forum, kthx.
dbp
For not having any control, I have made a lot of isk up in Venal and branch lately. It haven't been able to do this for awhile now because of the war, but lately it has been easy. Although I have noticed serveral BoB running arround in those annoying dual mwd cruisers lately.
And the on the map, i think its accurate the way it is. We still control the majority of the regions during US peek times, I have no idea about Europe peek times as thats not when I play.
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Quantum Industries
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Johnathan Roark
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:49:00 -
[136]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 17:32:39
Originally by: Malken
db havent you claimed every week for the last 6 months that they are dead?
how can just one corp from PA kill you more then you kill them if they have been so dead for so long.
your logic still evades me.
I've claimed that as an alliance, PA are non-functioning.
They are not in control of their space and en masse they are not living in venal, tenal or branch.
They are incapable of putting together fleets and their communication is terrible.
That's what I've stated.
Kronarty: please don't stretch the forum, kthx.
dbp
For not having any control, I have made a lot of isk up in Venal and branch lately. It haven't been able to do this for awhile now because of the war, but lately it has been easy. Although I have noticed serveral BoB running arround in those annoying dual mwd cruisers lately.
And the on the map, i think its accurate the way it is. We still control the majority of the regions during US peek times, I have no idea about Europe peek times as thats not when I play.
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:56:00 -
[137]
Quote:
lol
that's pretty funny.
We sent 1 pilot after ASW in our "war" against them so far - ugluuk.
If you want, we'll send the same as what we did against OS for the next month?
You know the one where we forced them to move on from thier home after being killed lots?
If the ASW war was a concern to us in the slightest, we'd pull the war.
and hey, since we have been at war with diff corps in empire since the beginning of this war, it's highly unlikely a couple of ganks in empire will make us lose spirit ;)
dbp
only got 2 points
ugluuk rocks was a corp m8 of mine in ragnorak inc.
2nd point pa are allied with ca why wouldn't sa attack
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:56:00 -
[138]
Quote:
lol
that's pretty funny.
We sent 1 pilot after ASW in our "war" against them so far - ugluuk.
If you want, we'll send the same as what we did against OS for the next month?
You know the one where we forced them to move on from thier home after being killed lots?
If the ASW war was a concern to us in the slightest, we'd pull the war.
and hey, since we have been at war with diff corps in empire since the beginning of this war, it's highly unlikely a couple of ganks in empire will make us lose spirit ;)
dbp
only got 2 points
ugluuk rocks was a corp m8 of mine in ragnorak inc.
2nd point pa are allied with ca why wouldn't sa attack
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:58:00 -
[139]
Originally by: DB Preacher
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
We do?
As I've said numerous times in the past months; Venal, Tenal and Branch are disputed territory.
Look, this a war. Claiming the PA doesnt fight is irritating and the sole reason behond all of these stupid forum pi$$ing contests. If an enemy doesnt fight you on your terms in exact manner you want, tough *****. Grow up and and keep that frustration to yourself because no one wants to hear it.
"Not a war?" Look at these stats:
For the month of October (last full month)
BoB total kills = 1107 (from the BoB kill board)
PA total kills = 868 (from the PA kill board)
2 things granted to these stats;
-PA considers corporations invited by by BoB as war participants since they contribute to BoBs war effort, are openly hostile, and are in direct violation of our (disputed) claim to said space.
-I believe the 1107 kills on BoBs board may include more than just PA corporations. (not sure if the "general stats" category is alliance exclusive)
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |
Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:58:00 -
[140]
Originally by: DB Preacher
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
We do?
As I've said numerous times in the past months; Venal, Tenal and Branch are disputed territory.
Look, this a war. Claiming the PA doesnt fight is irritating and the sole reason behond all of these stupid forum pi$$ing contests. If an enemy doesnt fight you on your terms in exact manner you want, tough *****. Grow up and and keep that frustration to yourself because no one wants to hear it.
"Not a war?" Look at these stats:
For the month of October (last full month)
BoB total kills = 1107 (from the BoB kill board)
PA total kills = 868 (from the PA kill board)
2 things granted to these stats;
-PA considers corporations invited by by BoB as war participants since they contribute to BoBs war effort, are openly hostile, and are in direct violation of our (disputed) claim to said space.
-I believe the 1107 kills on BoBs board may include more than just PA corporations. (not sure if the "general stats" category is alliance exclusive)
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |
DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:03:00 -
[141]
Originally by: LLeBRing
oh and why is havocide posting as dirtyharry? I must be out of the loop...
When i quit EvE about (8 months?) ago, i "got rid of" my account and went to lineage2, about 3 weeks ago i quit lineage gave an old F-E friend who i played L2 with some items and he gave me an EvE account so i didnt have to start from scratch, thats pretty much it, original havocide = me, as for who has my old account now god knows .
I didnt annouce my return or anything LLeBRing, just quietly slipped back into the world of eve and am observing all the drama and loving it =p, i should be back to my good old spamming/flaming the forums 24/7 like Joshua soon(tm).
-Havo
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Sig: Mirus Crosius <3
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |
DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:03:00 -
[142]
Originally by: LLeBRing
oh and why is havocide posting as dirtyharry? I must be out of the loop...
When i quit EvE about (8 months?) ago, i "got rid of" my account and went to lineage2, about 3 weeks ago i quit lineage gave an old F-E friend who i played L2 with some items and he gave me an EvE account so i didnt have to start from scratch, thats pretty much it, original havocide = me, as for who has my old account now god knows .
I didnt annouce my return or anything LLeBRing, just quietly slipped back into the world of eve and am observing all the drama and loving it =p, i should be back to my good old spamming/flaming the forums 24/7 like Joshua soon(tm).
-Havo
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Sig: Mirus Crosius <3
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:06:00 -
[143]
Better to be a puppet than a muppet.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:06:00 -
[144]
Better to be a puppet than a muppet.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Zarks
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:12:00 -
[145]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Zarks
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
You can not adapt to our way of killing you so you get all mad and all those feelings just burst inside of you DB, I know itŠs hard.
What you need to do is to be quiet and leave OUR land and then we wont hand your asses to you anymore ok?
excuse me? that you even dare to say such utter rubbish is beyond me.
if you need to do login traps to get kills I feel sorry for you.
even with all the cowardly actions you do, we get more kills.
We stopped doing these things after we got warnings from the GM:s, and that was on your first little trip up here. If you got anything that even remotely can be described as a punch in the balls for us please post it but why do you have to bring this **** up every time?
IŠm sure you are a very smart dude, otherwise you wouldnŠt have all killmails you got so please skip this the next time ok?
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:12:00 -
[146]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Zarks
Oh, we are winning this war DB.
You can not adapt to our way of killing you so you get all mad and all those feelings just burst inside of you DB, I know itŠs hard.
What you need to do is to be quiet and leave OUR land and then we wont hand your asses to you anymore ok?
excuse me? that you even dare to say such utter rubbish is beyond me.
if you need to do login traps to get kills I feel sorry for you.
even with all the cowardly actions you do, we get more kills.
We stopped doing these things after we got warnings from the GM:s, and that was on your first little trip up here. If you got anything that even remotely can be described as a punch in the balls for us please post it but why do you have to bring this **** up every time?
IŠm sure you are a very smart dude, otherwise you wouldnŠt have all killmails you got so please skip this the next time ok?
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:13:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Better to be a puppet than a muppet.
Better to be me than Joshua Calvert
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:13:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Better to be a puppet than a muppet.
Better to be me than Joshua Calvert
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Fred0
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:15:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Fred0 on 18/11/2004 18:19:36
Today we dangled a single BS infront of Evol/m0o etc in BKG, just for giggles. Only 5 logged in within the minute. Dissapointing to say the least.
Kudos to The Vince, Undertaker, Lianhaun and Siddy for atleast being logged on the whole time :)Shame on Fisho and a few others :)
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Fred0
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:15:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Fred0 on 18/11/2004 18:19:36
Today we dangled a single BS infront of Evol/m0o etc in BKG, just for giggles. Only 5 logged in within the minute. Dissapointing to say the least.
Kudos to The Vince, Undertaker, Lianhaun and Siddy for atleast being logged on the whole time :)Shame on Fisho and a few others :)
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:31:00 -
[151]
Yet again DBP makes a fool out of him self.
Things like:
- PA is dead (despite the fighting that's going on)
- PA don't fight (despite our killboard)
- PA use logon traps (not possible with the current mechanics)
- PA log on and gank (Same as BoB)
- PA don't control space (we never said we did, but BoB is not controlling it eighter)
How many times does a person have to post things like this to look like a complete fool?
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:31:00 -
[152]
Yet again DBP makes a fool out of him self.
Things like:
- PA is dead (despite the fighting that's going on)
- PA don't fight (despite our killboard)
- PA use logon traps (not possible with the current mechanics)
- PA log on and gank (Same as BoB)
- PA don't control space (we never said we did, but BoB is not controlling it eighter)
How many times does a person have to post things like this to look like a complete fool?
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:32:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Halseth Durn
Originally by: DB Preacher
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
We do?
As I've said numerous times in the past months; Venal, Tenal and Branch are disputed territory.
Look, this a war. Claiming the PA doesnt fight is irritating and the sole reason behond all of these stupid forum pi$$ing contests. If an enemy doesnt fight you on your terms in exact manner you want, tough *****. Grow up and and keep that frustration to yourself because no one wants to hear it.
"Not a war?" Look at these stats:
For the month of October (last full month)
BoB total kills = 1107 (from the BoB kill board)
PA total kills = 868 (from the PA kill board)
2 things granted to these stats;
-PA considers corporations invited by by BoB as war participants since they contribute to BoBs war effort, are openly hostile, and are in direct violation of our (disputed) claim to said space.
-I believe the 1107 kills on BoBs board may include more than just PA corporations. (not sure if the "general stats" category is alliance exclusive)
ERM id say an extremely large amount of pa kills arent BOB, bet theres alot of fu/cod kills there.
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Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:32:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Halseth Durn
Originally by: DB Preacher
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
We do?
As I've said numerous times in the past months; Venal, Tenal and Branch are disputed territory.
Look, this a war. Claiming the PA doesnt fight is irritating and the sole reason behond all of these stupid forum pi$$ing contests. If an enemy doesnt fight you on your terms in exact manner you want, tough *****. Grow up and and keep that frustration to yourself because no one wants to hear it.
"Not a war?" Look at these stats:
For the month of October (last full month)
BoB total kills = 1107 (from the BoB kill board)
PA total kills = 868 (from the PA kill board)
2 things granted to these stats;
-PA considers corporations invited by by BoB as war participants since they contribute to BoBs war effort, are openly hostile, and are in direct violation of our (disputed) claim to said space.
-I believe the 1107 kills on BoBs board may include more than just PA corporations. (not sure if the "general stats" category is alliance exclusive)
ERM id say an extremely large amount of pa kills arent BOB, bet theres alot of fu/cod kills there.
My Evil Half |
Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:37:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Drexciyian
Originally by: Halseth Durn
Originally by: DB Preacher
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
We do?
As I've said numerous times in the past months; Venal, Tenal and Branch are disputed territory.
Look, this a war. Claiming the PA doesnt fight is irritating and the sole reason behond all of these stupid forum pi$$ing contests. If an enemy doesnt fight you on your terms in exact manner you want, tough *****. Grow up and and keep that frustration to yourself because no one wants to hear it.
"Not a war?" Look at these stats:
For the month of October (last full month)
BoB total kills = 1107 (from the BoB kill board)
PA total kills = 868 (from the PA kill board)
2 things granted to these stats;
-PA considers corporations invited by by BoB as war participants since they contribute to BoBs war effort, are openly hostile, and are in direct violation of our (disputed) claim to said space.
-I believe the 1107 kills on BoBs board may include more than just PA corporations. (not sure if the "general stats" category is alliance exclusive)
ERM id say an extremely large amount of pa kills arent BOB, bet theres alot of fu/cod kills there.
?? We didn't even fight FU/COD in the month of October. Another clueless RKK.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:37:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Drexciyian
Originally by: Halseth Durn
Originally by: DB Preacher
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
We do?
As I've said numerous times in the past months; Venal, Tenal and Branch are disputed territory.
Look, this a war. Claiming the PA doesnt fight is irritating and the sole reason behond all of these stupid forum pi$$ing contests. If an enemy doesnt fight you on your terms in exact manner you want, tough *****. Grow up and and keep that frustration to yourself because no one wants to hear it.
"Not a war?" Look at these stats:
For the month of October (last full month)
BoB total kills = 1107 (from the BoB kill board)
PA total kills = 868 (from the PA kill board)
2 things granted to these stats;
-PA considers corporations invited by by BoB as war participants since they contribute to BoBs war effort, are openly hostile, and are in direct violation of our (disputed) claim to said space.
-I believe the 1107 kills on BoBs board may include more than just PA corporations. (not sure if the "general stats" category is alliance exclusive)
ERM id say an extremely large amount of pa kills arent BOB, bet theres alot of fu/cod kills there.
?? We didn't even fight FU/COD in the month of October. Another clueless RKK.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:37:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Drexciyian
ERM id say an extremely large amount of pa kills arent BOB, bet theres alot of fu/cod kills there.
Now read again.
Quote:
For the month of October
I would be getting very worried, if there were any CoD/FU kills in October.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:37:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Drexciyian
ERM id say an extremely large amount of pa kills arent BOB, bet theres alot of fu/cod kills there.
Now read again.
Quote:
For the month of October
I would be getting very worried, if there were any CoD/FU kills in October.
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:48:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Halseth Durn
Originally by: DB Preacher
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
We do?
As I've said numerous times in the past months; Venal, Tenal and Branch are disputed territory.
Look, this a war. Claiming the PA doesnt fight is irritating and the sole reason behond all of these stupid forum pi$$ing contests. If an enemy doesnt fight you on your terms in exact manner you want, tough *****. Grow up and and keep that frustration to yourself because no one wants to hear it.
"Not a war?" Look at these stats:
For the month of October (last full month)
BoB total kills = 1107 (from the BoB kill board)
PA total kills = 868 (from the PA kill board)
2 things granted to these stats;
-PA considers corporations invited by by BoB as war participants since they contribute to BoBs war effort, are openly hostile, and are in direct violation of our (disputed) claim to said space.
-I believe the 1107 kills on BoBs board may include more than just PA corporations. (not sure if the "general stats" category is alliance exclusive)
Back to school please,
BoB Killboard for the full month of October - 1596 kills of which 1205 were PA kills
Black Nova Corporation COO |
DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:48:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Halseth Durn
Originally by: DB Preacher
PA claim to be in complete control of their territory.
We do?
As I've said numerous times in the past months; Venal, Tenal and Branch are disputed territory.
Look, this a war. Claiming the PA doesnt fight is irritating and the sole reason behond all of these stupid forum pi$$ing contests. If an enemy doesnt fight you on your terms in exact manner you want, tough *****. Grow up and and keep that frustration to yourself because no one wants to hear it.
"Not a war?" Look at these stats:
For the month of October (last full month)
BoB total kills = 1107 (from the BoB kill board)
PA total kills = 868 (from the PA kill board)
2 things granted to these stats;
-PA considers corporations invited by by BoB as war participants since they contribute to BoBs war effort, are openly hostile, and are in direct violation of our (disputed) claim to said space.
-I believe the 1107 kills on BoBs board may include more than just PA corporations. (not sure if the "general stats" category is alliance exclusive)
Back to school please,
BoB Killboard for the full month of October - 1596 kills of which 1205 were PA kills
Black Nova Corporation COO |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:54:00 -
[161]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: DirtyHarry
I have to agree DBP from experience that 90% of the PA (mainly the miners) have probably fled for empire but i reckon BoB and friends will meet fierce resistance and gankings from the small groups of the leftovers for a long time to come...
I hope so, regardless of what peeps think, there is nothing better than being able to log on and get a fight straight off in your own territory without having to travel 50 jumps or something.
:)
dbp
so so so true.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:54:00 -
[162]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: DirtyHarry
I have to agree DBP from experience that 90% of the PA (mainly the miners) have probably fled for empire but i reckon BoB and friends will meet fierce resistance and gankings from the small groups of the leftovers for a long time to come...
I hope so, regardless of what peeps think, there is nothing better than being able to log on and get a fight straight off in your own territory without having to travel 50 jumps or something.
:)
dbp
so so so true.
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crice
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:56:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: DirtyHarry
I have to agree DBP from experience that 90% of the PA (mainly the miners) have probably fled for empire but i reckon BoB and friends will meet fierce resistance and gankings from the small groups of the leftovers for a long time to come...
I hope so, regardless of what peeps think, there is nothing better than being able to log on and get a fight straight off in your own territory without having to travel 50 jumps or something.
:)
dbp
so so so true.
Ahmen to that Brother.
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crice
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Posted - 2004.11.18 18:56:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: DirtyHarry
I have to agree DBP from experience that 90% of the PA (mainly the miners) have probably fled for empire but i reckon BoB and friends will meet fierce resistance and gankings from the small groups of the leftovers for a long time to come...
I hope so, regardless of what peeps think, there is nothing better than being able to log on and get a fight straight off in your own territory without having to travel 50 jumps or something.
:)
dbp
so so so true.
Ahmen to that Brother.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:31:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Presidio
Yet again DBP makes a fool out of him self.
Things like:
- PA is dead (despite the fighting that's going on)
- PA don't fight (despite our killboard)
- PA use logon traps (not possible with the current mechanics)
- PA log on and gank (Same as BoB)
- PA don't control space (we never said we did, but BoB is not controlling it eighter)
How many times does a person have to post things like this to look like a complete fool?
Normally, I dont care what PA and BoB say about thier little war, I have my experinces as a stainer (SA and CA know way more about bitter struggles than PA will ever know). People who say Log on traps dont excist tend to be the same asshats that use them on a reguler basis and should be banned for it. A log in trap works like this: You lure a enemy fleet into a system, you log in 6 or 7 more guys from a safespot and they attack the newly arrived ships. Log on and gank will be a problem until the cowards who log off when threatened. if you log on, gank, gank, safespot wait and go back to ganking, gakn, thats being smart, but logging off, gank, run hide log, gakn run hide log inst even smart, its exploiting. As to Venal Tenal and Branch, if you dont control it, it isnt yours. If they dont cntrol it, it isnt thiers, so niether of you have it, and until one of you can control thespace 23/7 and prove, then I'll take you seriously.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:31:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Presidio
Yet again DBP makes a fool out of him self.
Things like:
- PA is dead (despite the fighting that's going on)
- PA don't fight (despite our killboard)
- PA use logon traps (not possible with the current mechanics)
- PA log on and gank (Same as BoB)
- PA don't control space (we never said we did, but BoB is not controlling it eighter)
How many times does a person have to post things like this to look like a complete fool?
Normally, I dont care what PA and BoB say about thier little war, I have my experinces as a stainer (SA and CA know way more about bitter struggles than PA will ever know). People who say Log on traps dont excist tend to be the same asshats that use them on a reguler basis and should be banned for it. A log in trap works like this: You lure a enemy fleet into a system, you log in 6 or 7 more guys from a safespot and they attack the newly arrived ships. Log on and gank will be a problem until the cowards who log off when threatened. if you log on, gank, gank, safespot wait and go back to ganking, gakn, thats being smart, but logging off, gank, run hide log, gakn run hide log inst even smart, its exploiting. As to Venal Tenal and Branch, if you dont control it, it isnt yours. If they dont cntrol it, it isnt thiers, so niether of you have it, and until one of you can control thespace 23/7 and prove, then I'll take you seriously.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Emarr
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:35:00 -
[167]
Im just a newbie CareBear Alt. and never post on here or even read the forums that much due to the C##p that Jade was posting way back but now I see mostly BOB has taken over the c##p posting.
Then I read PA has been dead 50 times and BOB is sick of not having a fight so there going to invade CA space and teach them a thing or two. Lots of chest beating and such. Now I read there back in PA space.
LMAO untuck tail from between your legs BoB. Good going CA and Keep up the Fight PA
Guess I will stop reading the boards again for a few months.
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Emarr
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:35:00 -
[168]
Im just a newbie CareBear Alt. and never post on here or even read the forums that much due to the C##p that Jade was posting way back but now I see mostly BOB has taken over the c##p posting.
Then I read PA has been dead 50 times and BOB is sick of not having a fight so there going to invade CA space and teach them a thing or two. Lots of chest beating and such. Now I read there back in PA space.
LMAO untuck tail from between your legs BoB. Good going CA and Keep up the Fight PA
Guess I will stop reading the boards again for a few months.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:41:00 -
[169]
was gonna read all of this but when a seen that DB preacher posted bout 50 times in the first few pages a said naaaaaaaaaaaaa.
anyways good luck PA.... maybe we can lend a hand sometimes, give us a shout.
d solo
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:41:00 -
[170]
was gonna read all of this but when a seen that DB preacher posted bout 50 times in the first few pages a said naaaaaaaaaaaaa.
anyways good luck PA.... maybe we can lend a hand sometimes, give us a shout.
d solo
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:45:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Presidio
- PA is dead (despite the fighting that's going on)
- PA don't fight (despite our killboard)
- PA use logon traps (not possible with the current mechanics)
- PA log on and gank (Same as BoB)
- PA don't control space (we never said we did, but BoB is not controlling it eighter)
How many times does a person have to post things like this to look like a complete fool?
err how about everytime you post rubbish?
I NEVER said anything about login traps or log on ganks at all.
I have always said you maintain a small element there for fighting.
I have said again and again, we (as a whole) live in Venal, Tenal and branch.
PA (as a whole) live in empire.
Argue all you want, I don't care.
Try and pretend there is some sort of war going on, I don't care.
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
Otherwise, keep on pretending you mean something in 0.0 as a political entity.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:45:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Presidio
- PA is dead (despite the fighting that's going on)
- PA don't fight (despite our killboard)
- PA use logon traps (not possible with the current mechanics)
- PA log on and gank (Same as BoB)
- PA don't control space (we never said we did, but BoB is not controlling it eighter)
How many times does a person have to post things like this to look like a complete fool?
err how about everytime you post rubbish?
I NEVER said anything about login traps or log on ganks at all.
I have always said you maintain a small element there for fighting.
I have said again and again, we (as a whole) live in Venal, Tenal and branch.
PA (as a whole) live in empire.
Argue all you want, I don't care.
Try and pretend there is some sort of war going on, I don't care.
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
Otherwise, keep on pretending you mean something in 0.0 as a political entity.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Diee
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Posted - 2004.11.18 20:04:00 -
[173]
Originally by: DB Preacher
err how about everytime you post rubbish?
I NEVER said anything about login traps or log on ganks at all.
I have always said you maintain a small element there for fighting.
I have said again and again, we (as a whole) live in Venal, Tenal and branch.
PA (as a whole) live in empire.
Argue all you want, I don't care.
Try and pretend there is some sort of war going on, I don't care.
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
Otherwise, keep on pretending you mean something in 0.0 as a political entity.
dbp
I'm curious...do you fight and post on the forums at the same time?
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Diee
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Posted - 2004.11.18 20:04:00 -
[174]
Originally by: DB Preacher
err how about everytime you post rubbish?
I NEVER said anything about login traps or log on ganks at all.
I have always said you maintain a small element there for fighting.
I have said again and again, we (as a whole) live in Venal, Tenal and branch.
PA (as a whole) live in empire.
Argue all you want, I don't care.
Try and pretend there is some sort of war going on, I don't care.
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
Otherwise, keep on pretending you mean something in 0.0 as a political entity.
dbp
I'm curious...do you fight and post on the forums at the same time?
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World of Warcraft did what Evolution couldn't |
Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.18 20:07:00 -
[175]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
You mean ... like right now? Oh wait, you guys logged off.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.18 20:07:00 -
[176]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
You mean ... like right now? Oh wait, you guys logged off.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.18 20:09:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Diee
Originally by: DB Preacher
err how about everytime you post rubbish?
I NEVER said anything about login traps or log on ganks at all.
I have always said you maintain a small element there for fighting.
I have said again and again, we (as a whole) live in Venal, Tenal and branch.
PA (as a whole) live in empire.
Argue all you want, I don't care.
Try and pretend there is some sort of war going on, I don't care.
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
Otherwise, keep on pretending you mean something in 0.0 as a political entity.
dbp
I'm curious...do you fight and post on the forums at the same time?
Your sig isn't very funny, you should change it =/.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.18 20:09:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Diee
Originally by: DB Preacher
err how about everytime you post rubbish?
I NEVER said anything about login traps or log on ganks at all.
I have always said you maintain a small element there for fighting.
I have said again and again, we (as a whole) live in Venal, Tenal and branch.
PA (as a whole) live in empire.
Argue all you want, I don't care.
Try and pretend there is some sort of war going on, I don't care.
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
Otherwise, keep on pretending you mean something in 0.0 as a political entity.
dbp
I'm curious...do you fight and post on the forums at the same time?
Your sig isn't very funny, you should change it =/.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.11.18 20:48:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 18/11/2004 20:50:29
Is there strings attached to being a puppet of Bob
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.11.18 20:48:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 18/11/2004 20:50:29
Is there strings attached to being a puppet of Bob
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.18 22:11:00 -
[181]
Originally by: darth solo
was gonna read all of this but when a seen that DB preacher posted bout 50 times in the first few pages a said naaaaaaaaaaaaa.
anyways good luck PA.... maybe we can lend a hand sometimes, give us a shout.
d solo
Yeah maybe you can go down to curse and hold hands with them while they mine
My Evil Half |
Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.18 22:11:00 -
[182]
Originally by: darth solo
was gonna read all of this but when a seen that DB preacher posted bout 50 times in the first few pages a said naaaaaaaaaaaaa.
anyways good luck PA.... maybe we can lend a hand sometimes, give us a shout.
d solo
Yeah maybe you can go down to curse and hold hands with them while they mine
My Evil Half |
Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.18 22:12:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: DB Preacher
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
You mean ... like right now? Oh wait, you guys logged off.
Think you'll find almost everyone is on shiva tonight
My Evil Half |
Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.18 22:12:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: DB Preacher
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
You mean ... like right now? Oh wait, you guys logged off.
Think you'll find almost everyone is on shiva tonight
My Evil Half |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 22:23:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Ramireza
Edited by: Ramireza on 18/11/2004 22:12:29
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 16:06:35
Originally by: Blueblooded
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
lol
that's pretty funny.
We sent 1 pilot after ASW in our "war" against them so far - ugluuk.
If you want, we'll send the same as what we did against OS for the next month?
You know the one where we forced them to move on from thier home after being killed lots?
If the ASW war was a concern to us in the slightest, we'd pull the war.
and hey, since we have been at war with diff corps in empire since the beginning of this war, it's highly unlikely a couple of ganks in empire will make us lose spirit ;)
dbp
yeah, yeah...
Lost Ships, Empire War RKK vs. ASW :
RKKASW
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Capsule 41
Shuttle 10
Frig 116
IC 10
Assault Frig 10
Cruiser 108
Battleship 10
Industrial 11
Hey, and ugluuk flies ALL that ship against us ???
We sent one pilot to actively chase you.
The rest have been ganks or pilots moving through empire to pick up stuff from empire... so yup, only Ugluuk came actively after you.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.11.18 22:23:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Ramireza
Edited by: Ramireza on 18/11/2004 22:12:29
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 16:06:35
Originally by: Blueblooded
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
lol
that's pretty funny.
We sent 1 pilot after ASW in our "war" against them so far - ugluuk.
If you want, we'll send the same as what we did against OS for the next month?
You know the one where we forced them to move on from thier home after being killed lots?
If the ASW war was a concern to us in the slightest, we'd pull the war.
and hey, since we have been at war with diff corps in empire since the beginning of this war, it's highly unlikely a couple of ganks in empire will make us lose spirit ;)
dbp
yeah, yeah...
Lost Ships, Empire War RKK vs. ASW :
RKKASW
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Capsule 41
Shuttle 10
Frig 116
IC 10
Assault Frig 10
Cruiser 108
Battleship 10
Industrial 11
Hey, and ugluuk flies ALL that ship against us ???
We sent one pilot to actively chase you.
The rest have been ganks or pilots moving through empire to pick up stuff from empire... so yup, only Ugluuk came actively after you.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2004.11.18 23:07:00 -
[187]
Edited by: Ugluuk on 18/11/2004 23:21:52
Originally by: Blueblooded
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
Problems?
Only problem is when they come 4vs1 but ofc i try to pick a fight.
If it`s 1vs1 we have a good fight.
Stats so far with me involved solo/group=
Kills 8 4 Cruisers 4 frigs
Losses 9 6 frigs 2 cruisers
Where is the problem?
The ASW guys are good together (all honour to them), and ofc some ships goes boom cause it`s mostly me down here doing the fighting..
If we bring more people down they wont fight..Understandable..
And i seem to be a problem when they have BS,Cruisers and elite frigs camping my station when im in a frig.
May the war continue..Great fight, low on smack..
http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2004.11.18 23:07:00 -
[188]
Edited by: Ugluuk on 18/11/2004 23:21:52
Originally by: Blueblooded
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
Problems?
Only problem is when they come 4vs1 but ofc i try to pick a fight.
If it`s 1vs1 we have a good fight.
Stats so far with me involved solo/group=
Kills 8 4 Cruisers 4 frigs
Losses 9 6 frigs 2 cruisers
Where is the problem?
The ASW guys are good together (all honour to them), and ofc some ships goes boom cause it`s mostly me down here doing the fighting..
If we bring more people down they wont fight..Understandable..
And i seem to be a problem when they have BS,Cruisers and elite frigs camping my station when im in a frig.
May the war continue..Great fight, low on smack..
http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.11.18 23:34:00 -
[189]
DB posts a lot for someone that doesn't care
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.11.18 23:34:00 -
[190]
DB posts a lot for someone that doesn't care
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Harry Stoteles
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:01:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 18/11/2004 20:50:29
Is there strings attached to being a puppet of Bob
yep, we just need to post, and immediately someone's trolling it (not pointing directly into your or anyone others direction tho)
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Harry Stoteles
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:01:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 18/11/2004 20:50:29
Is there strings attached to being a puppet of Bob
yep, we just need to post, and immediately someone's trolling it (not pointing directly into your or anyone others direction tho)
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Reloaded INC
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:45:00 -
[193]
i r t3h bobs puppetier
p.s i can pee further than you
I am the bad guy the kriptonite the green cronic.
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Reloaded INC
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:45:00 -
[194]
i r t3h bobs puppetier
p.s i can pee further than you
I am the bad guy the kriptonite the green cronic.
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:49:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
I have my experinces as a stainer (SA and CA know way more about bitter struggles than PA will ever know)
U call SA/CA skirmishes a struggle ? Get some clue m8, you don't want to see PA in SA space
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:49:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
I have my experinces as a stainer (SA and CA know way more about bitter struggles than PA will ever know)
U call SA/CA skirmishes a struggle ? Get some clue m8, you don't want to see PA in SA space
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Reloaded INC
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:55:00 -
[197]
i bet if i can put fluet in teh pusseh i could be BoB's fluet puppiter.
WTS!!!+1!++ *one fluet in pusseh puppet "evol convo only"*.
I am the bad guy the kriptonite the green cronic.
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Reloaded INC
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:55:00 -
[198]
i bet if i can put fluet in teh pusseh i could be BoB's fluet puppiter.
WTS!!!+1!++ *one fluet in pusseh puppet "evol convo only"*.
I am the bad guy the kriptonite the green cronic.
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Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2004.11.19 01:07:00 -
[199]
Bingo !
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Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2004.11.19 01:07:00 -
[200]
Bingo !
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.11.19 01:56:00 -
[201]
So we're muppets, and they're puppets?
Great!
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.11.19 01:56:00 -
[202]
So we're muppets, and they're puppets?
Great!
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Loridin
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Posted - 2004.11.19 02:35:00 -
[203]
Edited by: Loridin on 19/11/2004 02:42:35
OMG I hope PA build a bridge and get over it.
A small SA corp, if my memory serves me correct, the smallest attacks some PA ships.
If these guys are such a huge threat to you maybe you alliance is closer to death than I beleive.
PA has been KOS to SA for a while now. We spotted rona-kia in catch and flying with CA fleets and several SA pilots were podded by rona-kia. They joined CA after this event but we still a member of your alliance at the time of the event
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Loridin
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Posted - 2004.11.19 02:35:00 -
[204]
Edited by: Loridin on 19/11/2004 02:42:35
OMG I hope PA build a bridge and get over it.
A small SA corp, if my memory serves me correct, the smallest attacks some PA ships.
If these guys are such a huge threat to you maybe you alliance is closer to death than I beleive.
PA has been KOS to SA for a while now. We spotted rona-kia in catch and flying with CA fleets and several SA pilots were podded by rona-kia. They joined CA after this event but we still a member of your alliance at the time of the event
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Mechkilla
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:35:00 -
[205]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 16:06:35
Originally by: Blueblooded
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
lol
that's pretty funny.
We sent 1 pilot after ASW in our "war" against them so far - ugluuk.
If you want, we'll send the same as what we did against OS for the next month?
You know the one where we forced them to move on from thier home after being killed lots?
If the ASW war was a concern to us in the slightest, we'd pull the war.
and hey, since we have been at war with diff corps in empire since the beginning of this war, it's highly unlikely a couple of ganks in empire will make us lose spirit ;)
dbp
Maybe Ugluuk is the most involved pilot because there aren't many RKK online. I am sad that your corp honored his participation with forcing him down to flying frigs now.
But I have to thank you for that war. It helps us to train a few young unexperienced pilots.
Maybe that war doesn't concern you but maybe you are not informed correctly. Fact is that some of your members do not post theirs losses. Neither in the BoB killboard nor in your own forum. If we didn't remind them to do that (or told it sutty) then a few more losses weren't reported.
But at least it seemed to be concerning a few of your members. Yesterday we had a little fight with 3 of your pilots and after that ASW got a war declaration of a 2-members-corp. Right after that, one RKK hinted me on local on this. So that looked to me that you need help against us or you can't control your members.
And sorry Ugluuk that we do not often 1vs1. War is dirty as everyone knowns. And as already said, we use that as pratice for new members. And then some of you got silly setups (Dual 100MN AB on cruiser) that you hardly can catch alone. Also we always try to be prepared for pilots that could reinforce you.
And mainly ... we do not fight to satisfy RKK because you don't like PA and so you don't like ASW (we already had wars were both sides were pleased till the end). Get bored BoB.
Mechkilla
____________________________________________
CEO of Asgard Schiffswerften
*** Proud member of [G] ***
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Mechkilla
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:35:00 -
[206]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 16:06:35
Originally by: Blueblooded
Edited by: Blueblooded on 18/11/2004 15:43:33
Originally by: DB Preacher
Depends on your definition of control.
I could say BoB is in control of Yulai but everyone knows that would be silly.
Funny that DBP mention "control" and "Yulai" in the same sentence since his corporation have such problem with ONE of the PA member corps (ASW) in their Empire war...But DBP is right, it is silly to say that BOB is in control, but that goes for the whole of EVE.
It makes me wonder why RKK even bother to go further out then in space when they can't survive in Empire.
I hope you don't loose too much spirit by all the empire ganks, after all, things might look good for you now that you got reinforcements from another alliance...
lol
that's pretty funny.
We sent 1 pilot after ASW in our "war" against them so far - ugluuk.
If you want, we'll send the same as what we did against OS for the next month?
You know the one where we forced them to move on from thier home after being killed lots?
If the ASW war was a concern to us in the slightest, we'd pull the war.
and hey, since we have been at war with diff corps in empire since the beginning of this war, it's highly unlikely a couple of ganks in empire will make us lose spirit ;)
dbp
Maybe Ugluuk is the most involved pilot because there aren't many RKK online. I am sad that your corp honored his participation with forcing him down to flying frigs now.
But I have to thank you for that war. It helps us to train a few young unexperienced pilots.
Maybe that war doesn't concern you but maybe you are not informed correctly. Fact is that some of your members do not post theirs losses. Neither in the BoB killboard nor in your own forum. If we didn't remind them to do that (or told it sutty) then a few more losses weren't reported.
But at least it seemed to be concerning a few of your members. Yesterday we had a little fight with 3 of your pilots and after that ASW got a war declaration of a 2-members-corp. Right after that, one RKK hinted me on local on this. So that looked to me that you need help against us or you can't control your members.
And sorry Ugluuk that we do not often 1vs1. War is dirty as everyone knowns. And as already said, we use that as pratice for new members. And then some of you got silly setups (Dual 100MN AB on cruiser) that you hardly can catch alone. Also we always try to be prepared for pilots that could reinforce you.
And mainly ... we do not fight to satisfy RKK because you don't like PA and so you don't like ASW (we already had wars were both sides were pleased till the end). Get bored BoB.
Mechkilla
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:41:00 -
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Funny stuff.
If an SA attacked a PA corp, oh well. PA are admitted allies of CA, so like, that would be a suprise? wow.
Bladerunners. You are an insignificant corp, that has had little to no effect on this war, whose only claim to fame is getting warned for exploiting. GODS does all your fighting for you. They at least have earned the right to flame us.
(ps yes. plz throw up your insignificant kill list so we can roll our eyes and laugh again.) What amazes me is how vocal you are on this forum, when you do nothing of note in game? Hey raven, how bout instead of spouting off at us constantly you bring your pansyass fleet within targeting range. Oh yeah, tough to pose a threat when half your corp has quit the game.
Celest. It's funny how anytime someone says something bad about you guys you jump in and scream how you guys never say anything to anyone unless someone says something about you, yet you troll nearly any thread involving evol or bob. So, are you talking out your rectums as usual, or do you have a real point to make? I mean, if you wanna play, bring it. You won't. You will talk, and talk, but in the end, you will do nothing. Which is about all you are good at.
PA- You may not be dead, but you are little more then an annoyance. If GODS wasn't around, you would have no combat effectiveness, and as it is they aren't around that much. That's the truth. Now............ here's a shocker. Their is nothing wrong with that. Play the game how you want. We'll do the same. I don't expect to see a white flag from you guys officially, and we don't own anything white.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:41:00 -
[208]
Funny stuff.
If an SA attacked a PA corp, oh well. PA are admitted allies of CA, so like, that would be a suprise? wow.
Bladerunners. You are an insignificant corp, that has had little to no effect on this war, whose only claim to fame is getting warned for exploiting. GODS does all your fighting for you. They at least have earned the right to flame us.
(ps yes. plz throw up your insignificant kill list so we can roll our eyes and laugh again.) What amazes me is how vocal you are on this forum, when you do nothing of note in game? Hey raven, how bout instead of spouting off at us constantly you bring your pansyass fleet within targeting range. Oh yeah, tough to pose a threat when half your corp has quit the game.
Celest. It's funny how anytime someone says something bad about you guys you jump in and scream how you guys never say anything to anyone unless someone says something about you, yet you troll nearly any thread involving evol or bob. So, are you talking out your rectums as usual, or do you have a real point to make? I mean, if you wanna play, bring it. You won't. You will talk, and talk, but in the end, you will do nothing. Which is about all you are good at.
PA- You may not be dead, but you are little more then an annoyance. If GODS wasn't around, you would have no combat effectiveness, and as it is they aren't around that much. That's the truth. Now............ here's a shocker. Their is nothing wrong with that. Play the game how you want. We'll do the same. I don't expect to see a white flag from you guys officially, and we don't own anything white.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:26:00 -
[209]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Funny stuff.
Celest. It's funny how anytime someone says something bad about you guys you jump in and scream how you guys never say anything to anyone unless someone says something about you, yet you troll nearly any thread involving evol or bob. So, are you talking out your rectums as usual, or do you have a real point to make? I mean, if you wanna play, bring it. You won't. You will talk, and talk, but in the end, you will do nothing. Which is about all you are good at.
funny i could say the same thing about evol trolling and spamming any thread that isnt about them.
will you stop posting?
if not then why should we?
btw, evol still havent answered the question on why they felt the need to log on over 40+ pilots to fight 3 celest BS and 1 frig a while back.
molle seemed to not want to discuss that when he was whining about PA logging in and heading up to venal when they had over 200 pilots in their blobs if i remember correctly.
that was when we went up to shoot some RKK wich already outnumbered us 2 to 1 and still you logged on over 40ppl, the map started shining like mad as soon as you heard that there was a couple of celests in venal.
btw, RKK stayed docked until all those pilots converged on bkg.
lamers.
thats all i have to say about that.
so post away if that makes you feel better i know i will keep posting for a long while though.
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:26:00 -
[210]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Funny stuff.
Celest. It's funny how anytime someone says something bad about you guys you jump in and scream how you guys never say anything to anyone unless someone says something about you, yet you troll nearly any thread involving evol or bob. So, are you talking out your rectums as usual, or do you have a real point to make? I mean, if you wanna play, bring it. You won't. You will talk, and talk, but in the end, you will do nothing. Which is about all you are good at.
funny i could say the same thing about evol trolling and spamming any thread that isnt about them.
will you stop posting?
if not then why should we?
btw, evol still havent answered the question on why they felt the need to log on over 40+ pilots to fight 3 celest BS and 1 frig a while back.
molle seemed to not want to discuss that when he was whining about PA logging in and heading up to venal when they had over 200 pilots in their blobs if i remember correctly.
that was when we went up to shoot some RKK wich already outnumbered us 2 to 1 and still you logged on over 40ppl, the map started shining like mad as soon as you heard that there was a couple of celests in venal.
btw, RKK stayed docked until all those pilots converged on bkg.
lamers.
thats all i have to say about that.
so post away if that makes you feel better i know i will keep posting for a long while though.
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:31:00 -
[211]
Sa talks big but i bet if we march in a gank squads youd be singing a diff toon miner newb. Fighting Sa would a step down in are recent pvp fights. Sorry bud but Sa does dont compair to fighting BOB in anyway.
Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!! |
The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:31:00 -
[212]
Sa talks big but i bet if we march in a gank squads youd be singing a diff toon miner newb. Fighting Sa would a step down in are recent pvp fights. Sorry bud but Sa does dont compair to fighting BOB in anyway.
Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!! |
pershphanie
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:34:00 -
[213]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 14:50:03
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Doesnt matter what anyone claims, you claim they dont fight your in control. So its a guerilla war then.
I'll get on with getting Venal, Tenal and branch changed to BoB control on the Alliance maps then unless anyone has any serious objections?
It will be our territory completely for all to see and I will restart the end of month reports on PA's Guerrilla war against us?
Any disagreements speak now or forever stfu.
dbp
That's funny. For a region you control there seems to be alot of us and little of you atm.
Oh yeah.... you're a moron. stfu |
pershphanie
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:34:00 -
[214]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/11/2004 14:50:03
Originally by: Damo Pendragon
Doesnt matter what anyone claims, you claim they dont fight your in control. So its a guerilla war then.
I'll get on with getting Venal, Tenal and branch changed to BoB control on the Alliance maps then unless anyone has any serious objections?
It will be our territory completely for all to see and I will restart the end of month reports on PA's Guerrilla war against us?
Any disagreements speak now or forever stfu.
dbp
That's funny. For a region you control there seems to be alot of us and little of you atm.
Oh yeah.... you're a moron. stfu |
pershphanie
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:40:00 -
[215]
Originally by: darth solo
was gonna read all of this but when a seen that DB preacher posted bout 50 times in the first few pages a said naaaaaaaaaaaaa.
anyways good luck PA.... maybe we can lend a hand sometimes, give us a shout.
d solo
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:40:00 -
[216]
Originally by: darth solo
was gonna read all of this but when a seen that DB preacher posted bout 50 times in the first few pages a said naaaaaaaaaaaaa.
anyways good luck PA.... maybe we can lend a hand sometimes, give us a shout.
d solo
Come on up. come to think it bring SA, CA, CFS, FA, and TPS all up with you. I think we should have a big free for all up here. |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:42:00 -
[217]
Originally by: The Cursed
Sa talks big but i bet if we march in a gank squads youd be singing a diff toon miner newb. Fighting Sa would a step down in are recent pvp fights. Sorry bud but Sa does dont compair to fighting BOB in anyway.
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:42:00 -
[218]
Originally by: The Cursed
Sa talks big but i bet if we march in a gank squads youd be singing a diff toon miner newb. Fighting Sa would a step down in are recent pvp fights. Sorry bud but Sa does dont compair to fighting BOB in anyway.
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.19 06:00:00 -
[219]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: The Cursed
Sa talks big but i bet if we march in a gank squads youd be singing a diff toon miner newb. Fighting Sa would a step down in are recent pvp fights. Sorry bud but Sa does dont compair to fighting BOB in anyway.
I don't think you can take on SA.
its not that hard to destroy alot of SA.
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.19 06:00:00 -
[220]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: The Cursed
Sa talks big but i bet if we march in a gank squads youd be singing a diff toon miner newb. Fighting Sa would a step down in are recent pvp fights. Sorry bud but Sa does dont compair to fighting BOB in anyway.
I don't think you can take on SA.
its not that hard to destroy alot of SA.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:32:00 -
[221]
I just woke up, what did I miss?
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:32:00 -
[222]
I just woke up, what did I miss?
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.19 08:04:00 -
[223]
Edited by: sutty on 19/11/2004 08:32:11
Wtf mis read the post, its early
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.19 08:04:00 -
[224]
Edited by: sutty on 19/11/2004 08:32:11
Wtf mis read the post, its early
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.11.19 08:11:00 -
[225]
Edited by: ElCoCo on 19/11/2004 08:40:20
Originally by: sutty
........
/emote hands out cup of coffee to sutty
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.11.19 08:11:00 -
[226]
Edited by: ElCoCo on 19/11/2004 08:40:20
Originally by: sutty
........
/emote hands out cup of coffee to sutty
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Sun Wu
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Posted - 2004.11.19 08:43:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Malken
Originally by: ProphetGuru
cut away proph's post, you can read it up there...
funny i could say the same thing about evol trolling and spamming any thread that isnt about them.
will you stop posting?
if not then why should we?
It seems most threads have a tendency to turn into threads about us for some reason. Originally by: Malken
btw, evol still havent answered the question on why they felt the need to log on over 40+ pilots to fight 3 celest BS and 1 frig a while back.
molle seemed to not want to discuss that when he was whining about PA logging in and heading up to venal when they had over 200 pilots in their blobs if i remember correctly.
that was when we went up to shoot some RKK wich already outnumbered us 2 to 1 and still you logged on over 40ppl, the map started shining like mad as soon as you heard that there was a couple of celests in venal.
btw, RKK stayed docked until all those pilots converged on bkg.
I find it highly amusing that you assume us logging in is caused by a couple ships of your corp. Let me tell you about monocausality. It is the cheap way out in history lessons. It is you asuming that you are significant enough to warrant some kind of response ingame with only a few ships. It is you ignoring other possibilities of us logging into the game. It is you saying, I'm there, so it must be me.
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Sun Wu
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Posted - 2004.11.19 08:43:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Malken
Originally by: ProphetGuru
cut away proph's post, you can read it up there...
funny i could say the same thing about evol trolling and spamming any thread that isnt about them.
will you stop posting?
if not then why should we?
It seems most threads have a tendency to turn into threads about us for some reason. Originally by: Malken
btw, evol still havent answered the question on why they felt the need to log on over 40+ pilots to fight 3 celest BS and 1 frig a while back.
molle seemed to not want to discuss that when he was whining about PA logging in and heading up to venal when they had over 200 pilots in their blobs if i remember correctly.
that was when we went up to shoot some RKK wich already outnumbered us 2 to 1 and still you logged on over 40ppl, the map started shining like mad as soon as you heard that there was a couple of celests in venal.
btw, RKK stayed docked until all those pilots converged on bkg.
I find it highly amusing that you assume us logging in is caused by a couple ships of your corp. Let me tell you about monocausality. It is the cheap way out in history lessons. It is you asuming that you are significant enough to warrant some kind of response ingame with only a few ships. It is you ignoring other possibilities of us logging into the game. It is you saying, I'm there, so it must be me.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:32:00 -
[229]
When will u folks realise that these are MY forums.... mines, not yours, mine...
d solo.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:32:00 -
[230]
When will u folks realise that these are MY forums.... mines, not yours, mine...
d solo.
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rofflekins
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:18:00 -
[231]
Edited by: rofflekins on 19/11/2004 11:21:26
when you move past sv5 i am sure you suprise some of the travelers through the region
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rofflekins
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:18:00 -
[232]
Edited by: rofflekins on 19/11/2004 11:21:26
when you move past sv5 i am sure you suprise some of the travelers through the region
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:24:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Mechkilla
Maybe Ugluuk is the most involved pilot because there aren't many RKK online. I am sad that your corp honored his participation with forcing him down to flying frigs now.
Lol, yeah, we told him "USE FRIGS NOW YOU BIATCH, COZ U CANT HANDLE ANY OTHER SHIP"
Seriously,
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:24:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Mechkilla
Maybe Ugluuk is the most involved pilot because there aren't many RKK online. I am sad that your corp honored his participation with forcing him down to flying frigs now.
Lol, yeah, we told him "USE FRIGS NOW YOU BIATCH, COZ U CANT HANDLE ANY OTHER SHIP"
Seriously,
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Madswede
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:42:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Drexciyian
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: DB Preacher
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
You mean ... like right now? Oh wait, you guys logged off.
Think you'll find almost everyone is on shiva tonight
Ok! Now I understand all the confusion here. All this arguing back and forth while all the time BoB was controlling Venal/Tenal/Branch on the Shiva server. I thought we were talking about Tranquility. Oh, silly me.
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Madswede
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:42:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Drexciyian
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: DB Preacher
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
You mean ... like right now? Oh wait, you guys logged off.
Think you'll find almost everyone is on shiva tonight
Ok! Now I understand all the confusion here. All this arguing back and forth while all the time BoB was controlling Venal/Tenal/Branch on the Shiva server. I thought we were talking about Tranquility. Oh, silly me.
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:51:00 -
[237]
Thats true. Its not hard to destroy ships in this game. Attacking lone ships, moving fast, etc is not hard.
But once an alliance reaches a certain size.. its impossible to kill it. Celestial Apocalypse have been doing good. But compare them to ATUK in ship kills.... Celes doesn't come close. But then again, ATUK have more targets.. that could be it.
Bottom line.. celes is a nuance. Most of those guys are alot of fun, great humor and such.. that also applies to CA. So its all good.
But coming into these forums with a statement "its not hard to destroy alot of SA" thats just silly. Of course its not. It all depends on tactics. We have extremely little focus on Celes because we can't see an impact on our internal economy from their attacks.
CA are our enemy. We lub them as such. We don't want to loose focus on killing them. We have fun doing it.
As to this PA attack. Don't put yerself on the high one... you haven't been attacked by SA. You have been attacked by very few members of SA. They did nothing wrong.
CA and SA have similar kill numbers. We take turns in the lead.. but all in all.. we do pretty much the same damage.
bahh.. I'm rambling again.
Have fun. Go kill. Be kind to animals. And more over.. stop this frelling smack. (sa and ca) there is no need for it.
Some are allowed thou... you know who you are.
(masta sit boy sit)
/aeryn
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:51:00 -
[238]
Thats true. Its not hard to destroy ships in this game. Attacking lone ships, moving fast, etc is not hard.
But once an alliance reaches a certain size.. its impossible to kill it. Celestial Apocalypse have been doing good. But compare them to ATUK in ship kills.... Celes doesn't come close. But then again, ATUK have more targets.. that could be it.
Bottom line.. celes is a nuance. Most of those guys are alot of fun, great humor and such.. that also applies to CA. So its all good.
But coming into these forums with a statement "its not hard to destroy alot of SA" thats just silly. Of course its not. It all depends on tactics. We have extremely little focus on Celes because we can't see an impact on our internal economy from their attacks.
CA are our enemy. We lub them as such. We don't want to loose focus on killing them. We have fun doing it.
As to this PA attack. Don't put yerself on the high one... you haven't been attacked by SA. You have been attacked by very few members of SA. They did nothing wrong.
CA and SA have similar kill numbers. We take turns in the lead.. but all in all.. we do pretty much the same damage.
bahh.. I'm rambling again.
Have fun. Go kill. Be kind to animals. And more over.. stop this frelling smack. (sa and ca) there is no need for it.
Some are allowed thou... you know who you are.
(masta sit boy sit)
/aeryn
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:26:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Mechkilla
Maybe Ugluuk is the most involved pilot because there aren't many RKK online. I am sad that your corp honored his participation with forcing him down to flying frigs now.
And sorry Ugluuk that we do not often 1vs1. Mechkilla[/quote
No one have forced me into frigs..I chose frigs myself..
I came in Raven..You guys undocked with 2 Scorpions and Thorax..
I came in Moa..You guys undocked with Scorp,BB and Thorax
I came in Kestrel you guys came with target jamming Griffin, Hawk and Crow..
Target jam, target jam, target jam..
That`s why i chose to fly frigs.Nearly no loss if it goes boom.Couldn`t get a real fight with you guys..
And you say my corp are sad.
You guys must have some honour? Even target jamming my frigs in 3vs1.
Only guy with balls are Ramireza..He shows up in a 1vs1.
I have never flewn frigs in battle before so i can practice in this war too..
http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:26:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Mechkilla
Maybe Ugluuk is the most involved pilot because there aren't many RKK online. I am sad that your corp honored his participation with forcing him down to flying frigs now.
And sorry Ugluuk that we do not often 1vs1. Mechkilla[/quote
No one have forced me into frigs..I chose frigs myself..
I came in Raven..You guys undocked with 2 Scorpions and Thorax..
I came in Moa..You guys undocked with Scorp,BB and Thorax
I came in Kestrel you guys came with target jamming Griffin, Hawk and Crow..
Target jam, target jam, target jam..
That`s why i chose to fly frigs.Nearly no loss if it goes boom.Couldn`t get a real fight with you guys..
And you say my corp are sad.
You guys must have some honour? Even target jamming my frigs in 3vs1.
Only guy with balls are Ramireza..He shows up in a 1vs1.
I have never flewn frigs in battle before so i can practice in this war too..
http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:43:00 -
[241]
Originally by: The Cursed
Sa talks big but i bet if we march in a gank squads youd be singing a diff toon miner newb. Fighting Sa would a step down in are recent pvp fights. Sorry bud but Sa does dont compair to fighting BOB in anyway.
Send down some people and attack them in retaliation then. Set destination for HED-GP then you have a couple choices. DSS then 05Y then 4GQ and spread out in Stain proper. Or head to FAT-6 in catch then move down the chain to DSS.
Either way, go on, do it. duh!
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:43:00 -
[242]
Originally by: The Cursed
Sa talks big but i bet if we march in a gank squads youd be singing a diff toon miner newb. Fighting Sa would a step down in are recent pvp fights. Sorry bud but Sa does dont compair to fighting BOB in anyway.
Send down some people and attack them in retaliation then. Set destination for HED-GP then you have a couple choices. DSS then 05Y then 4GQ and spread out in Stain proper. Or head to FAT-6 in catch then move down the chain to DSS.
Either way, go on, do it. duh!
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:49:00 -
[243]
Originally by: The Cursed
SA pilots were spotted and attack PA members in venal today. SA pilots from the Minmatar Freelancers. Pa reports show only one ship lose. No response from SA has been noted yet by the PA since the attacks began.
Now, to clear this up once and for all.
The "SA fleet" is 2 pilots, Cassiopee and UltraBug.
The "SA fleet" is invited to join EVOL.
PA can stop panicking now.
Have a nice day.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:49:00 -
[244]
Originally by: The Cursed
SA pilots were spotted and attack PA members in venal today. SA pilots from the Minmatar Freelancers. Pa reports show only one ship lose. No response from SA has been noted yet by the PA since the attacks began.
Now, to clear this up once and for all.
The "SA fleet" is 2 pilots, Cassiopee and UltraBug.
The "SA fleet" is invited to join EVOL.
PA can stop panicking now.
Have a nice day.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:56:00 -
[245]
Was fun to read the PA crying game posts though
Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:56:00 -
[246]
Was fun to read the PA crying game posts though
Spawn of the Devil
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2004.11.19 14:34:00 -
[247]
Edited by: pershphanie on 19/11/2004 14:37:14
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Presidio
- PA is dead (despite the fighting that's going on)
- PA don't fight (despite our killboard)
- PA use logon traps (not possible with the current mechanics)
- PA log on and gank (Same as BoB)
- PA don't control space (we never said we did, but BoB is not controlling it eighter)
How many times does a person have to post things like this to look like a complete fool?
err how about everytime you post rubbish?
I NEVER said anything about login traps or log on ganks at all.
I have always said you maintain a small element there for fighting.
I have said again and again, we (as a whole) live in Venal, Tenal and branch.
PA (as a whole) live in empire.
Argue all you want, I don't care.
Try and pretend there is some sort of war going on, I don't care.
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
Otherwise, keep on pretending you mean something in 0.0 as a political entity.
dbp
Thank you for your valuable insight on the situation. We appreciate all the honest yet fair knoledge you have given us and look foward to more of your devine brillance in the future.
Love,
Pershphanie/enfoe |
pershphanie
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Posted - 2004.11.19 14:34:00 -
[248]
Edited by: pershphanie on 19/11/2004 14:37:14
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Presidio
- PA is dead (despite the fighting that's going on)
- PA don't fight (despite our killboard)
- PA use logon traps (not possible with the current mechanics)
- PA log on and gank (Same as BoB)
- PA don't control space (we never said we did, but BoB is not controlling it eighter)
How many times does a person have to post things like this to look like a complete fool?
err how about everytime you post rubbish?
I NEVER said anything about login traps or log on ganks at all.
I have always said you maintain a small element there for fighting.
I have said again and again, we (as a whole) live in Venal, Tenal and branch.
PA (as a whole) live in empire.
Argue all you want, I don't care.
Try and pretend there is some sort of war going on, I don't care.
Until you can put together fleets and fight us, then I might care.
Otherwise, keep on pretending you mean something in 0.0 as a political entity.
dbp
Thank you for your valuable insight on the situation. We appreciate all the honest yet fair knoledge you have given us and look foward to more of your devine brillance in the future.
Love,
Pershphanie/enfoe |
Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.11.19 14:42:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Koval
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
I have my experinces as a stainer (SA and CA know way more about bitter struggles than PA will ever know)
U call SA/CA skirmishes a struggle ? Get some clue m8, you don't want to see PA in SA space
Actually that would be quite interesting.. It would be like leading lambs to the slaughter.. PA being the lambs
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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.11.19 14:42:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Koval
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
I have my experinces as a stainer (SA and CA know way more about bitter struggles than PA will ever know)
U call SA/CA skirmishes a struggle ? Get some clue m8, you don't want to see PA in SA space
Actually that would be quite interesting.. It would be like leading lambs to the slaughter.. PA being the lambs
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.11.19 15:12:00 -
[251]
you're on good way to verify it, keep up the good work.. a month in stain would be like long earned vacations after 6 months in venal 
..and make no mistake, you're those who are asking for it
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.11.19 15:12:00 -
[252]
you're on good way to verify it, keep up the good work.. a month in stain would be like long earned vacations after 6 months in venal
..and make no mistake, you're those who are asking for it
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Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.19 15:16:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Koval
you're on good way to verify it, keep up the good work.. a month in stain would be like long earned vacations after 6 months in venal
..and make no mistake, you're those who are asking for it
LOL u can't even get a fleet together in venal sif u could go attack SA
My Evil Half |
Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.19 15:16:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Koval
you're on good way to verify it, keep up the good work.. a month in stain would be like long earned vacations after 6 months in venal
..and make no mistake, you're those who are asking for it
LOL u can't even get a fleet together in venal sif u could go attack SA
My Evil Half |
sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.19 15:16:00 -
[255]
Wouldn't really worry about PA pulling a fleet together.
I haven't seen a PA fleet in months?
By fleet I mean +10 ships
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.19 15:16:00 -
[256]
Wouldn't really worry about PA pulling a fleet together.
I haven't seen a PA fleet in months?
By fleet I mean +10 ships
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:05:00 -
[257]
Originally by: sutty
By fleet I mean +10 ships
lol 10 are a squad, a fleet are 3 squads
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Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:05:00 -
[258]
Originally by: sutty
By fleet I mean +10 ships
lol 10 are a squad, a fleet are 3 squads
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Dead or Alive
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:27:00 -
[259]
I have had to lower my exspectations been in venal, a fleet is 10
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:27:00 -
[260]
I have had to lower my exspectations been in venal, a fleet is 10
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:34:00 -
[261]
Originally by: sutty
I have had to lower my exspectations been in venal, a fleet is 10
There was a gang of about 30 PA pilots in Venal yesterday.
Miraculously, you guys all logged off to play Shiva instead.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:34:00 -
[262]
Originally by: sutty
I have had to lower my exspectations been in venal, a fleet is 10
There was a gang of about 30 PA pilots in Venal yesterday.
Miraculously, you guys all logged off to play Shiva instead.
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:46:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: sutty
I have had to lower my exspectations been in venal, a fleet is 10
There was a gang of about 30 PA pilots in Venal yesterday.
Miraculously, you guys all logged off to play Shiva instead.
I think I got the answer to this one. If I heard correctly Evol was doing POS testing for the devs on the test server. Evol to confirm?
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:46:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: sutty
I have had to lower my exspectations been in venal, a fleet is 10
There was a gang of about 30 PA pilots in Venal yesterday.
Miraculously, you guys all logged off to play Shiva instead.
I think I got the answer to this one. If I heard correctly Evol was doing POS testing for the devs on the test server. Evol to confirm?
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:58:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Better to be a puppet than a muppet.
Better to be me than Joshua Calvert
I think I got my muppets and puppets mixed up
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.19 16:58:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Better to be a puppet than a muppet.
Better to be me than Joshua Calvert
I think I got my muppets and puppets mixed up
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.19 17:03:00 -
[267]
Shirei - lets see that fleet tonight then while we aint on the test server ?
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.19 17:03:00 -
[268]
Shirei - lets see that fleet tonight then while we aint on the test server ?
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.11.19 17:06:00 -
[269]
Originally by: sutty
Shirei - lets see that fleet tonight then while we aint on the test server ?
How long time and how many ships did it take bring the POS down by the way?
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.11.19 17:06:00 -
[270]
Originally by: sutty
Shirei - lets see that fleet tonight then while we aint on the test server ?
How long time and how many ships did it take bring the POS down by the way?
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.11.19 18:36:00 -
[271]
Edited by: Wraeththu on 19/11/2004 18:39:09
Originally by: Kulach
How long time and how many ships did it take bring the POS down by the way?
It's not that hard actually. It works much like tanking the sentry guns. 4-5 can pretty much do it.
Ships for tanking, ships for WTFPWNING POS.
It'll be less easy when people actually build up a well thought out defense, vs just throwing a bunch if big guns up at wierd locations.
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TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |
Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.11.19 18:36:00 -
[272]
Edited by: Wraeththu on 19/11/2004 18:39:09
Originally by: Kulach
How long time and how many ships did it take bring the POS down by the way?
It's not that hard actually. It works much like tanking the sentry guns. 4-5 can pretty much do it.
Ships for tanking, ships for WTFPWNING POS.
It'll be less easy when people actually build up a well thought out defense, vs just throwing a bunch if big guns up at wierd locations.
--
TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |
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